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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.02.08 01:21:00 -
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Edited by: Barakkus on 08/02/2010 01:24:27 Sounds like that would be a good change.
page 2 snipah
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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FlameGlow
Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.08 06:50:00 -
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get out, ECM doesn't need another nerf _____________ I don't care what is nerfed, as long as it's not my "undock" button. |
Gladys Pank
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.02.08 09:15:00 -
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I like frigs I hate getting perma jammed by unbonused multispecs ~ Soar Like a Penguin |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.02.08 09:22:00 -
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Edited by: Vaal Erit on 08/02/2010 09:22:53 ECM may not need another nerf, but it is still by far the most effective form of ewar and by far the most popular which suggests it is unbalanced. Unless I am missing the target painter and damp whines.
This proposal effectively strips away the jamming ships ability to get out of situations by jamming and then warping away. Taking away using its ewar defensively is a huge nerf and does not balance with the other ewar as both TDs and damps can be used to get out of situations. A fair module would perhaps make a ship immune to 1 ewar module (not counting webs/pts/scrams) so a ship is not immune but still much more resistant to ewar.
I see no reason why a t1 trash frigate with one of the proposed modules should be practically immune to a T2 highly specialized jamming boat. Changing the low slot anti-ecm from a percentage to a fixed number would solve your problem. But frigates are small and should be easier to jam, that is how it should be.
No support for this, but would support a well thought out proposal boosting ECCM or limiting ECM in a slight way. If this proposal went through, we would see a 3-4 month killing spree of ECM ships and then ECM ships would be rarely seen again. I would love it but it wouldn't be balanced or good for the game.
Originally by: Jim Raynor EVE needs danger, EVE needs risks, EVE needs combat, even piracy, without these things, the game stagnates to a trivial game centering around bloating your wallet with no purpose. |
Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.02.08 11:14:00 -
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current proposal would kill ecm . an alternative: the length of ECM jam is halved for every eccm (low or mid-slot) fitted as well as they recieve normal sensor strength boost they curently give.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.02.08 11:20:00 -
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lower cycle time for ECM will be a buff especially against larger ships as their scan res is so small that they will be mostlikely jammed again before they aquired a lock after a failed cycle.
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Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.02.08 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever lower cycle time for ECM will be a buff especially against larger ships as their scan res is so small that they will be mostlikely jammed again before they aquired a lock after a failed cycle.
you misunderstood me. You ECCM will work like normal, but in addition to the sensor strength boost, you will be jammed only for half the time you will normally be jammed for. The time is halfed with each ECCM module. That means, thst not only will you be ahrder to jam, each jam will have less effect on you. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes.StevieSG |
TimMc
Trans-Solar Works Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.02.08 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: TimMc on 08/02/2010 14:59:31 I like this idea, but then again I don't fly ECM.
Would mean people will stop brining ECM drones to 1v1s though, as just 1 low slot will make their drones useless.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.02.08 16:09:00 -
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not really. as you still can get jammed by a 2nd drone. 2 drones -> jammed again. just the likeliness dropped.
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TimMc
Gallente Trans-Solar Works Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.02.08 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever not really. as you still can get jammed by a 2nd drone. 2 drones -> jammed again. just the likeliness dropped.
wat?
Second drone jams, and you still have 1 lock which is your main target.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.02.08 16:52:00 -
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as far as i understood it, the module would just protect against the first jam. not against every. the way you describe it is even more overpowered and moves the idea close to the trashcan.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.02.10 20:21:00 -
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Other forms of ewar need a boost, if anything.
ECM boats are, once someone has a lock on you, flying coffins. Unless you can get a lucky jam on whatever is tackling you, it's over. And if there are multiple ships tackling you... well.
They're also one of the few viable counters to RR gangs, and can have half their effectiveness chopped off by a single module.
A single unbonused multispec being able to lock out a frigate is a problem, but ruining ECM to fix that isn't an option.
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Hellfury Resurrected
Incura
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Posted - 2010.02.10 20:28:00 -
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Lowslot ECCM needs a buff. This is not it. -------------------------------------------
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