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crimson fire	Posted - 2010.02.07 03:25:00 - [1] Edited by: crimson fire on 07/02/2010 03:25:03 who get frustrated with the frustration of the .1 isk game. Accept it. It does NOT help to raise the price with 1 million or whatever when the profit margin is 10 mil. Of cause all the regular traders will raise with 1.000.000.01 isk. How can the noob not realise this?! He is hurting his own profit!!!! And worse: MY profit! When finlly this new noob has learned the lesson and decided to become a miner bot, a new noob will come and ruin my day. SIGH! Yet another aspect of the frustrating trader life
Janiries Swordhand	Posted - 2010.02.07 03:30:00 - [2] And? Did you ever think that its a valid tactic? It's working very well as you're here in a emorage...
Jadun	Posted - 2010.02.07 03:30:00 - [3] these are not the forums you are looking for...
Priue Nvidess Gallente Amarr Engineering	Posted - 2010.02.07 03:35:00 - [4] Yes, trading can be frustrating but do you see hundreds of traders coming on to the forums to whine about it? Everyone deals with these things, the trick is to make sure that you have an exit strategy if someone does reduce your profit to nil.
Grozen Caldari Centus Industries	Posted - 2010.02.07 04:01:00 - [5] Trading has never been about trading much really, its more of who's got the most patience and nerves.In the end of the day the guy that kept updating his order by 0.1 will win the trade and line his pockes and those that went to bed will be knowledge is power
Jin Nib Resplendent Knives	Posted - 2010.02.07 04:19:00 - [6] Originally by: crimson fire And worse: MY profit! The pirate trader approaches to gather the tears from this thread for his nightly carnal bath of pleasures. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
CantStopThe Rokh Red Federation	Posted - 2010.02.07 04:31:00 - [7] You realize that he/she is probably trying to push others out of the market, looks like it is working judging by your post.
Commander Godsmack	Posted - 2010.02.07 05:19:00 - [8] Originally by: crimson fire Edited by: crimson fire on 07/02/2010 03:25:03 who get frustrated with the frustration of the .1 isk game. Accept it. It does NOT help to raise the price with 1 million or whatever when the profit margin is 10 mil. Of cause all the regular traders will raise with 1.000.000.01 isk. How can the noob not realise this?! He is hurting his own profit!!!! And worse: MY profit! When finlly this new noob has learned the lesson and decided to become a miner bot, a new noob will come and ruin my day. SIGH! Yet another aspect of the frustrating trader life Thought about looking in the mirror? Also maybe try to consider the motive for thier tactics? Are you going to keep trading in these items were it is apparent that u wont be making a profit?? Is their tactic working??? I think the OP answers the last question rather well.
Frenden Dax Dax Acquisitions	Posted - 2010.02.07 06:20:00 - [9] Quote: tears Sadly, I forgot my Tear Harvester I today. What you're seeing is not necessarily the work of a new player. There are several possible explanations: someone could be burning the margin down to scare off the competition. Someone could be burning down the margin just because he can. Or, someone could be undercutting massively since he found the item in a wreck/stole it/bought it for a song, and doesn't care what it sells for so long as it sells quickly.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.02.07 07:38:00 - [10] me too, so go die in a fire noob (in game)

Liberty Eternal	Posted - 2010.02.07 08:22:00 - [11] Edited by: Liberty Eternal on 07/02/2010 08:24:14 Another victim of Saturday noobfest Crimson, talk to me - how bad was the pwnage? Should we regulate them? And isn't this the last place you would expect to post for any sympathy? Edit: culling smilies
Shady McAltface	Posted - 2010.02.07 09:20:00 - [12] lol, tears. You can't see market tears. So what do they actually mean? Nothing! You might as well just self destruct velators and think to yourself "hehehe I am so evil I made tears of everyone". lol, scaring away the competition. They just come back. So well done, you crashed a market, people moved to other products you didn't crash, and after it rights itself they will just move back. you md do make me laugh sometimes
Ontaku Oroa Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.07 10:37:00 - [13] Actually it is a valid tactic, if correctly applied. The OP is the perfect example, I can wipe out three or four of them from the bidding crowd just by upping the price once or twice by a psychologically significant amount (the amount most people would notice as significantly higher, something like the reverse of the 999,999.99 mind#%$^). All I care is that I have a healthy margin. So if that screws with your 40% profit because I posted a bid at 16% profit you are unwilling to follow up (and I just love doing that because it means most people will just wait me out - I once turned three orders around in a row on the same commodity that way), that's your problem, and you're a greedy little n00b. :)
The AEther Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2010.02.07 11:55:00 - [14] Edited by: The AEther on 07/02/2010 11:55:17 He wasn't getting enough drops. He raised the price. Not only will it drive some traders out of this item and make the item drop more often to the buy orders overall, but also some traders will go on MD and post raaaage threads about it and everyone will gather around and drink their tears. It is a valid strategy. Agony Unleashed - no blues 0.0 pvp, pvp classes
flakeys Tier 3 Technologies Inc Lazy is our middle name	Posted - 2010.02.07 12:30:00 - [15] I am confused , is he stating he hates himself in the thread title?
Mirsal Amarr Punic Corp.	Posted - 2010.02.07 14:18:00 - [16] Originally by: flakeys I am confused , is he stating he hates himself in the thread title? I think he is saying he hates having sex with people new to the game. ------- "Be not, oh Greeks, so very hostilely disposed towards the Barbarians, nor look with ill will on their opinions. For which of your institutions has not been derived from the Barbarians?"
Loxatl Deathsquad	Posted - 2010.02.07 14:38:00 - [17] Originally by: crimson fire Edited by: crimson fire on 07/02/2010 03:25:03 who get frustrated with the frustration of the .1 isk game. Accept it. It does NOT help to raise the price with 1 million or whatever when the profit margin is 10 mil. Of cause all the regular traders will raise with 1.000.000.01 isk. How can the noob not realise this?! He is hurting his own profit!!!! And worse: MY profit! When finlly this new noob has learned the lesson and decided to become a miner bot, a new noob will come and ruin my day. SIGH! Yet another aspect of the frustrating trader life if this is for real, you just made my day. i love it when the things i do make real traders to what you did now. you see i am one of those people who jacks their prices up by loads when i get bid over by 0.1 isk. why because i dont want you to outbid me, i just want to sell my crap. and if you do it again ill go even further and add another couple of million. because i dont want to sell at the buy price - want a bit more isk but i cant be arsed sitting all day playing the stupid 0.1 isk game - i do things that are much more fun in eve when online, other than trading. seriously funny dude. pls more emo rage.
sir gankalot	Posted - 2010.02.07 14:38:00 - [18] Originally by: Shady McAltface lol, tears. You can't see market tears. Read the OP, looks like market tears to me.
crimson fire	Posted - 2010.02.07 15:03:00 - [19] Most of you have not read what i said. Go back and read a little slower, maybe read aloud. Some people find that helps! (hehe lol) I was whining about people who dont drive me out of the market, since there is still a very healthy profit margin, but who just hurt profit for no reason. They dont follow up with any tactics. Tactics which would be meaningless anyway, since they cant have better margins than me anyway lol. Very few people have the time (!) and means to corner a market, and to those that do, i will say good luck with that, i wish you the best (and get a life dude :D) Wow, now i stuck my hand in a hornets nest. Offending everyone and whining at the same time. Sacrilegious. COME ON, let me have it! Rip me a new one.
sir gankalot	Posted - 2010.02.07 15:24:00 - [20] For some ppl tears are enough reason. I myself like a bit more constructive trading but hey, it's a free market.

Festidious Verrucas Draconis Alumni	Posted - 2010.02.07 16:13:00 - [21] Originally by: Janiries Swordhand And? Did you ever think that its a valid tactic? It's working very well as you're here in a emorage... This ^^ Fly safe, Fes.
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.07 16:17:00 - [22] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 07/02/2010 16:18:01 ITT some one that does not get the whole picture EDIT: Acronym Fail Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡
Wyke Mossari Gallente Staner Industries	Posted - 2010.02.07 17:05:00 - [23] Classic example of being Incompetent and unaware aka the Dunning Kruger effect. Quote: 1. Incompetent individuals tend to overestimate their own level of skill. 2. Incompetent individuals fail to recognize genuine skill in others. 3. Incompetent individuals fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy. 4. If they can be trained to substantially improve their own skill level, these individuals can recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill.
Roguehalo Caldari Resonance Laboratories	Posted - 2010.02.07 17:14:00 - [24] Posting in what may become an epic thread
Ontaku Oroa Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.07 18:11:00 - [25] Crimson, has it occurred to you that the world does not revolve around you? Maybe their goal wasn't to drive you out of the market, but a crapload of other traders did give up? Maybe they figure that upping the buy order will attract more sellers to said order, thus filling it faster, and we all know that velocity+smaller margins>slow ass phat margins? Or maybe they were just driven bonkers with all the 0.01 ISK games that they lost their cool and decided to get things going already. Here's a tip for you. If you get frustrated while station trading, you're doing it wrong.
Rykker Bow	Posted - 2010.02.07 18:17:00 - [26] Originally by: crimson fire Most of you have not read what i said. Go back and read a little slower, maybe read aloud. Some people find that helps! (hehe lol) I was whining about people who dont drive me out of the market, since there is still a very healthy profit margin, but who just hurt profit for no reason. They dont follow up with any tactics. Tactics which would be meaningless anyway, since they cant have better margins than me anyway lol. Very few people have the time (!) and means to corner a market, and to those that do, i will say good luck with that, i wish you the best (and get a life dude :D) Wow, now i stuck my hand in a hornets nest. Offending everyone and whining at the same time. Sacrilegious. COME ON, let me have it! Rip me a new one. Yeah, I guess you realized this was coming and props for taking it like an adult. I say sit back and enjoy the ride. ooohhh...and wtf? why do you think you're right and they're wrong?? lol...j/k, I just wanted in on this one.
porth0s	Posted - 2010.02.07 19:58:00 - [27] I'll buy stuff on the cheap, in size, in a diff region. Come back to Jita, sell it at the halfway or lower half of the bid/ask spread. It ****es everyone off but my stuff gets sold. Come down to meet my price and I'll just keep cutting it because I can afford to. .01isk game is lame and I'm not going to play it
Priue Nvidess Gallente Amarr Engineering	Posted - 2010.02.07 20:00:00 - [28] Originally by: crimson fire Wow, now i stuck my hand in a hornets nest. Offending everyone and whining at the same time. Sacrilegious. COME ON, let me have it! Rip me a new one. Have you considered that the guy is trying to **** you off? If there is still a profit margin then he's probably not a noob who just wants it gone. There's a reason for him to slash the profit. ;)
Patri Andari Caldari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer	Posted - 2010.02.07 20:22:00 - [29] Is this a thread about virgins? Yes, they can be frustrating. I suggest patience and tenderness Hope this helps Patri I'll Roshambo you for that Titan
Zoe Midoru Selectus Pravus Lupus	Posted - 2010.02.07 21:29:00 - [30] Originally by: crimson fire Edited by: crimson fire on 07/02/2010 03:25:03 who get frustrated with the frustration of the .1 isk game. Accept it. It does NOT help to raise the price with 1 million or whatever when the profit margin is 10 mil. Of cause all the regular traders will raise with 1.000.000.01 isk. How can the noob not realise this?! He is hurting his own profit!!!! And worse: MY profit! When finlly this new noob has learned the lesson and decided to become a miner bot, a new noob will come and ruin my day. SIGH! Yet another aspect of the frustrating trader life Mmmm.... 0.01 ISK ***** tears. Taaaaasty.



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