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ZeroWulf
Caldari Pegasus Reborn Research Corp Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.02.09 19:19:00 -
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With the horrific CVA/Holder fleet loss in D-G & the recent UK acquisition of 9UY, Providence has just turned the heat up a few notches in the last 2-3 weeks.
This is all compounded by UK declaring war on us.
At this moment, FCON is on the backfoot. We don't have a large Cap fleet to combat an invasion, nor an adequate SRP to cover losses from Battleships in large scale conflicts. A large number of FCON pvp Pilots still have billions of ISK in Ships/Assets in 9UY that are for the moment, un-accessable. The leadership of FCON is silent, and without a few individuals trying to steer people, FCON as a whole has fallen into a lull.
We have WT's and Reds roaming freely and for the most part, uncontested through 9FOB & the surrounding systems. There are a few people in FCON banding together to fight the reds, but those numbers are few and far between. And those fleets that do form up, are going to be High-Sec fleets hunting down UK assets in Empire. FCON Has a large number of carebear/miner pilots who hardly ever step up to fight, yet are the first to moan about getting popped.
The FCON forums are unusually quiet, with talk of the leaders "Deciding the next move.." and a number of people have said they will just walk away from 9FOB if its attacked. Morale is very low. People are taking to mining and evac'ing assets to high sec. Everyone's trying to guess where UK goes next, most think it will be 9FOB.
I think FCON should just raise the white flag and get out. Clearly the space can't be controlled and honestly, its partly to blame on CVA.
The whole NRDS policy is bogus, it allows for so much ancilary BS to go on that its a comical joke to be a holder alliance. CVA says "Defend your space! But be mindful of our rules!" even though those rules countermand any form of being able to defend your space.
I've tried to live the NRDS way, but there are so many flaws in it, I can't see it as a viable form of survival in 0.0
to UK: Congrats on 9UY, you fought and took the system by force. CVA didn't care to defend it past the D-G losses. So kudos to you guys.
I'm sure this thread will cost me my position in my corporation as an officer, and will most definately mean my being expelled from FCON, but I really don't care.
The worst part is that I like most of the people in FCON, and most of the people in my Corp. It just doesn't detract from the handful of carebear miners who only care about themselves and no one else.
FCON doesn't have to power to stop an invasion and CVA is still reeling from their losses to commit to any broad based offensive.
The days of CVA ruling Providence seem to being coming to an agonizing halt, blow by blow. I've never really been a CVA supporter or fan, so I can't say i'm sorry to see them take hits like this. Part of me is happy but its sad to see so many alliances/allies of CVA just left out in the void with their pants down.
As for me, who knows, maybe i'll join the fight against CVA. Heck, its about time the last power-bloc in EVE came tumbling down. ------------------------------------ Pegasus Reborn Research Corporation
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Gul Dukautt
Gallente Empire Assault Corp Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.02.09 19:22:00 -
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1st in an epic emo thread
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ZeroWulf
Caldari Pegasus Reborn Research Corp Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.02.09 19:24:00 -
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I would also like to mention that the above post are my personal opinions and mine alone, they do not reflect my corporation at all. ------------------------------------ Pegasus Reborn Research Corporation
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o0TuNa0o
Caldari The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.09 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: o0TuNa0o on 09/02/2010 19:25:45
Originally by: ZeroWulf
to UK: Congrats on 9UY, you fought and took the system by force.
First
Cheers
Tuna
Edit - bah, 3rd!?
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Hellfury Resurrected
Caldari Incura
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Posted - 2010.02.09 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: ZeroWulf I would also like to mention that the above post are my personal opinions and mine alone, they do not reflect my corporation at all.
It's funny how people think this statement excuses everything once they've aired all their dirty laundry in public. -------------------------------------------
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ZeroWulf
Caldari Pegasus Reborn Research Corp Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.02.09 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Hellfury Resurrected
Originally by: ZeroWulf I would also like to mention that the above post are my personal opinions and mine alone, they do not reflect my corporation at all.
It's funny how people think this statement excuses everything once they've aired all their dirty laundry in public.
I dont expect my statement to excuse anything. I just want it clear that my Corp has nothing to do with what I say. AFAIK My corp is content within FCON, while I on the other hand, am not. ------------------------------------ Pegasus Reborn Research Corporation
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Flem'berk
Minmatar Morbid Obssesion
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Posted - 2010.02.09 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: ZeroWulf
As for me, who knows, maybe i'll join the fight against CVA. Heck, its about time the last power-bloc in EVE came tumbling down.
Cos the Southern nap-train is not a power block c/d
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Banlish
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.09 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: ZeroWulf
Verbal Diarrhea
TL:DR version
My side has taken some losses My side is in trouble and carebears are complaining :omgshock: -trying to change sides begins about here- My alliance sucks and should surrender even tho I just bashed people for not fighting -trying to change sides gets stronger- My stance has always been CVA is bad and probably deserve it -really trying to suck up begins here- My stance is that I should join the other side instead of fighting or sticking with an ally because I just got done saying that people that don't fight are crap so I shouldn't fight.... wait.
Hopefully that clears it up.
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Taishar Damodred
Caldari Rednex Yacht Club
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Posted - 2010.02.09 20:08:00 -
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Carebear Miners are there for you to protect as they are apart of your infrastructure. If you want Miners that pew pew get in line with all of the other corps who want dual role toons. You say you are a director but apparently senior leadership has left you out in the void with your pants down. FCON can still put up good numbers but by dishing to all of eve your questionable morale you will be targeted further.
You sound like a gatekeeper spy for the enemy the way you talk of your Alliance's inaction and waving a white flag because Hulk pilots don't want to PVP. I would step down If I were you and try and find a more easily defended part of null sec. FCON will be fine and Providence will be fine there are many intangibles you are not factoring in to the equation. Either be patient and step up and fulfill your role as a leader or get out of the way so someone else can. That is all
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CBBOMBERMAN
Gallente Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge
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Posted - 2010.02.09 20:14:00 -
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lol well thats what you get for helping the Goons! Now the Goons left and abandoned you all! Before AAA and UK used to have fun but without going crazy at it.But after you guys sided with Goons, i believe it got personal. I wont be surprised if you all get kicked out of providence in the coming months. GL, you are gonna need it
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ZeroWulf
Caldari Pegasus Reborn Research Corp Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.02.09 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Banlish
Originally by: ZeroWulf
Verbal Diarrhea
TL:DR version
My side has taken some losses My side is in trouble and carebears are complaining :omgshock: -trying to change sides begins about here- My alliance sucks and should surrender even tho I just bashed people for not fighting -trying to change sides gets stronger- My stance has always been CVA is bad and probably deserve it -really trying to suck up begins here- My stance is that I should join the other side instead of fighting or sticking with an ally because I just got done saying that people that don't fight are crap so I shouldn't fight.... wait.
Hopefully that clears it up.
You forgot the "Bored at work so making a post no ones cares about part."
:D
And I don't plan on joining UK or AAA or what-have-you. I've dueled against a few UK people, I'll probably move northwards and resume piracy :)
Logistically, FCON joined CVA to gain space, we got space, but its apparent CVA isn't willing to help defend or fight after ZOMG Grid load butthurt episode. So, without big brother to help stave off a superior fleet. Everyone in Provi is pretty much sunk. ------------------------------------ Pegasus Reborn Research Corporation
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Setsuko NuKinni
Amarr Galactic Defence Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.02.09 20:39:00 -
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Any FCON pilots wishing to evac their stuff from 9UY, please drop me a mail. thanks.
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Durkuh Durka
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.02.09 20:51:00 -
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Buh Bye?
I'm at work and a bit bored as well but boredom for me just means I get some time to scheme, rather than cry.
Personally, I like the miners. They built us a nice station where we get to store our stuff. Try mining while dodging reds sometime. Nullsec miners are the antithesis of carebears. They get to deal with danger without having guns to shoot back.
If you're tired of fighting and don't think it's worth trying to stand up for your brothers, then leave. You don't need to make a public announcement that you're a sniveler.
If anyone in FCON is your friend, you just stabbed them by coming here and proclaiming your weakness to our opponents. I stand by my friends. If I disagree with a policy I complain to my brothers or I keep the complaint to myself. I don't cry to a public who thrives on any sign of weakness.
As for joining U'K, I would be surprised if they wanted a weakling in their ranks. They too are warriors. I can respect them, even if I must fight them. You aren't worthy of respect.
As a mere pilot, I can speak for myself. I stand with my brothers in arms. We may lose the fight but we haven't lost heart.
Farewell Zero, I must say you chose your pilot name well. --------------- I like my ships like my women; Small, Fast, and bound with Duct Tape. |
Skaarl
Caldari The BlackHand Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:04:00 -
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my only question zero, is this: if you dont like CVA, and you dont like NRDS why did you join an alliance that was allied with CVA and operates NRDS?
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Lupus Aurelius
Gallente Legio V Fidelus Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:05:00 -
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Confirming, ZeroWulf is a whining biatch. Also, a spy...
Highly recommend that if he applies to anyones corp, you don't accept. Though maybe U'K might want him... Lupus Aurelius Senior Consul, Fidelas Constans |
ZeroWulf
Caldari Pegasus Reborn Research Corp Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Lupus Aurelius Confirming, ZeroWulf is a whining biatch. Also, a spy...
Highly recommend that if he applies to anyones corp, you don't accept. Though maybe U'K might want him...
I'm a spy?
Wow, who am I spying for? Myself?
My corp loaned FCON 12 billion (Thats with a B) for an outpost that now people are saying they will just walk away from.
I find that very disheartening.
I come here and air out some pretty nasty truths, and automatically, I'm a spy.
Thats rich, thats even funnier that it took me posting something here on the CAOD to get the Alliance Grand Poobah to actually post on a board period because he sure isn't posting on FCON's. Damn MSN works wonders.
And the smartest thing you can say is, i'm a spy? Thats AWESOME considering there's absolutely no truth to it.
There's a difference between being DISGRUNTLED, and being a SPY.
Lupus, it's sad you clearly don't know the difference. Nor have the smarts to actually respond (which you won't anyways) so instead you say i'm a spy!
Because thats totally believable.. Amirite? ------------------------------------ Pegasus Reborn Research Corporation
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VCBee 2fast2furious
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: CBBOMBERMAN lol well thats what you get for helping the Goons! Now the Goons left and abandoned you all! Before AAA and UK used to have fun but without going crazy at it.But after you guys sided with Goons, i believe it got personal. I wont be surprised if you all get kicked out of providence in the coming months. GL, you are gonna need it
The Goonswarm-CVA Alliance, the troll that just won't stop
:XD:
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ZeroWulf
Caldari Pegasus Reborn Research Corp Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Skaarl my only question zero, is this: if you dont like CVA, and you dont like NRDS why did you join an alliance that was allied with CVA and operates NRDS?
And to answer your question, because I liked the people in my Corp. I hated the restrictions imposed by CVA but coming from an NBSI Alliance from the era of the BoB/Goon conflict, I decided to give it a try, and as much as I wanted to try and do it CVA's way, realistically, its not possible, not tactically sound and adds an more frustration because of what you can't do.
But my Corp mates we're totally great people. Helped me learn some new things about EVE I hadn't explored before. It was a win/win if you ask me. Well, up until recently that is.
And I still like my corp mates. ------------------------------------ Pegasus Reborn Research Corporation
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Skaarl
Caldari The BlackHand Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: ZeroWulf
Originally by: Skaarl my only question zero, is this: if you dont like CVA, and you dont like NRDS why did you join an alliance that was allied with CVA and operates NRDS?
And to answer your question, because I liked the people in my Corp. I hated the restrictions imposed by CVA but coming from an NBSI Alliance from the era of the BoB/Goon conflict, I decided to give it a try, and as much as I wanted to try and do it CVA's way, realistically, its not possible, not tactically sound and adds an more frustration because of what you can't do.
But my Corp mates we're totally great people. Helped me learn some new things about EVE I hadn't explored before. It was a win/win if you ask me. Well, up until recently that is.
And I still like my corp mates.
tough talk from someone who's last kill was in december 09.
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Elyham
Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:30:00 -
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Confirming NRDS is fail.
Best of luck FCON, AMARR VICTOR!
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Evil Thug
Minmatar Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:32:00 -
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Stop whining. CVA gave your alliance ability to live in 0.0. Now, when CVA got under attack, you are acting like whiny *****. Stop acting, and play it like a man.
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Lunas Whisper
Minmatar The Centurions Eternus Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: ZeroWulf
Originally by: Hellfury Resurrected
Originally by: ZeroWulf I would also like to mention that the above post are my personal opinions and mine alone, they do not reflect my corporation at all.
It's funny how people think this statement excuses everything once they've aired all their dirty laundry in public.
I dont expect my statement to excuse anything. I just want it clear that my Corp has nothing to do with what I say. AFAIK My corp is content within FCON, while I on the other hand, am not.
If someone doesn't' get that this is your personal opinion without needing a disclaimer, I don't know O_O. Personally I got this was your opinion when you sadly said that this would likely cost you officer roles in your corp and that you would miss your alliance.
Likely your alliance hasn't made a decision because if they make one that isn't acceptable to CVA they will get into trouble, and they are trying to figure out what they want.
Hit me up on game sometime.
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Night Epoch
Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:36:00 -
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FCON has a backbone and some great FCs, and I-RED will stand alongside our friends and allies.
Are our two small alliances able to engage an -A-/U'K capital blob? Obviously not. But you'll not see I-RED and FCON tucking tail and running just because we get some new neighbors. Regardless of what you may interpret from a lone FCON pilot who does not speak for his alliance.
o7 FCON.
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ZeroWulf
Caldari Pegasus Reborn Research Corp Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Skaarl
Originally by: ZeroWulf
Originally by: Skaarl my only question zero, is this: if you dont like CVA, and you dont like NRDS why did you join an alliance that was allied with CVA and operates NRDS?
And to answer your question, because I liked the people in my Corp. I hated the restrictions imposed by CVA but coming from an NBSI Alliance from the era of the BoB/Goon conflict, I decided to give it a try, and as much as I wanted to try and do it CVA's way, realistically, its not possible, not tactically sound and adds an more frustration because of what you can't do.
But my Corp mates we're totally great people. Helped me learn some new things about EVE I hadn't explored before. It was a win/win if you ask me. Well, up until recently that is.
And I still like my corp mates.
tough talk from someone who's last kill was in december 09.
Yep, tough talk. it just so happens I was in a car accident at the end of december, so my play time hasn't been what it was prior. EH, kill stats don't really matter to me.
And don't try to come across as if you and FCON are above reproach. I seem to remember Lupus telling us all in Vent prior and after Dominions launch that all the pvp pilots to mount passive target scanners so we could scan all incoming ships for SBU's. I think his exact words were something to the effect of "I can't tell you to equip them because it goes against CVA policies, but I won't discourage pilots who take it upon themselves to do what needs to be done."
So yeah, there's your tough talk. What now?
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Lunas Whisper
Minmatar The Centurions Eternus Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Durkuh Durka Buh Bye?
I'm at work and a bit bored as well but boredom for me just means I get some time to scheme, rather than cry.
Personally, I like the miners. They built us a nice station where we get to store our stuff. Try mining while dodging reds sometime. Nullsec miners are the antithesis of carebears. They get to deal with danger without having guns to shoot back.
If you're tired of fighting and don't think it's worth trying to stand up for your brothers, then leave. You don't need to make a public announcement that you're a sniveler.
If anyone in FCON is your friend, you just stabbed them by coming here and proclaiming your weakness to our opponents. I stand by my friends. If I disagree with a policy I complain to my brothers or I keep the complaint to myself. I don't cry to a public who thrives on any sign of weakness.
As for joining U'K, I would be surprised if they wanted a weakling in their ranks. They too are warriors. I can respect them, even if I must fight them. You aren't worthy of respect.
As a mere pilot, I can speak for myself. I stand with my brothers in arms. We may lose the fight but we haven't lost heart.
Farewell Zero, I must say you chose your pilot name well.
Sorry no
I too have miners in my corp and alliance but guess what they too are required to do home defense. There is no reason they can't use T1 cruisers and toss on warp scramblers and be a tackler.
He may be making stuff uncomfy for his alliance, but what he's really doing is turning up the heat on CVA. This isn't a loss of face for his alliance but a loss of face for CVA. He did it knowing he would be kicked, and hopefully by doing this it spurs CVA to do something. United we stand, divided we fall. |
Skaarl
Caldari The BlackHand Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: ZeroWulf
Originally by: Skaarl
Originally by: ZeroWulf
Originally by: Skaarl my only question zero, is this: if you dont like CVA, and you dont like NRDS why did you join an alliance that was allied with CVA and operates NRDS?
And to answer your question, because I liked the people in my Corp. I hated the restrictions imposed by CVA but coming from an NBSI Alliance from the era of the BoB/Goon conflict, I decided to give it a try, and as much as I wanted to try and do it CVA's way, realistically, its not possible, not tactically sound and adds an more frustration because of what you can't do.
But my Corp mates we're totally great people. Helped me learn some new things about EVE I hadn't explored before. It was a win/win if you ask me. Well, up until recently that is.
And I still like my corp mates.
tough talk from someone who's last kill was in december 09.
Yep, tough talk. it just so happens I was in a car accident at the end of december, so my play time hasn't been what it was prior. EH, kill stats don't really matter to me.
And don't try to come across as if you and FCON are above reproach. I seem to remember Lupus telling us all in Vent prior and after Dominions launch that all the pvp pilots to mount passive target scanners so we could scan all incoming ships for SBU's. I think his exact words were something to the effect of "I can't tell you to equip them because it goes against CVA policies, but I won't discourage pilots who take it upon themselves to do what needs to be done."
So yeah, there's your tough talk. What now?
same place it was. having not been involved in any of the fights, or apparently online at all, you see fit to run with your tail between your legs and cry about how week we all are? like i said, last kill dec 09. 29 lifetime. grow some balls, then you'll have room to cry. maybe.
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Darth Syphils
Amarr Noshikkan
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Darth Syphils on 09/02/2010 21:46:52
Originally by: ZeroWulf tears Quote:
If your Corp is full of miners then there is something wrong with the leadership of your corp/alliance. You should all have a big fat ship replacment program for your pvp pilots that protect them while they get filthly ritch mining.
You just admitted that providence is full of gready carebears that refuse to contribute to the defense of there own space in one form or another, that is why it must burn
P.S. I am pretty sure the NC is still a power-bloc. Same with the power-bloc that is being fueled by your tears as they take your stations and **** your women (in game)
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Mikael Mechka
Gallente Sentinels Reprieve Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:44:00 -
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I'm sorry to hear that these are your views on the situation zero. May I ask where you got the impression that there is nothing being done about reds in 9-f? Whenever I log on there are always people on, in fleet, and ready to go shoot some reds. From where I'm standing, morale has actually increased with all the pvp ops.
This is also my first post in CAOD and now I feel dirty :( -------------------------------------------------
Originally by: Lana Torrin
I just reported you for being informative in a troll thread. Please leave.
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Guru
Caldari Woopatang Primary.
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:46:00 -
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Edited by: Guru on 09/02/2010 21:45:42
Originally by: Evil Thug Stop whining. CVA gave your alliance ability to live in 0.0. Now, when CVA got under attack, you are acting like whiny *****. Stop acting, and play it like a man.
agree..
"Mind Over Matter: If I don't mind, it don't matter." WWW.EVE-WOOPATANG.COM |
Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:48:00 -
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Well, you could always swtich sides and get docking rights in 9UY
PS - switching sides would involve blowing up CVA assets ----------
~bitter dog~
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