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Mister Gimp	Posted - 2010.02.11 14:45:00 - [61] Whilst the OP is undoubtedly right, I couldn't possibly align myself with someone who uses so many neckbeard/college nerd phrases/attitudes, so, sadly, I have to align my self with the whingers. Sorry Gimp
Planks SandStorm.	Posted - 2010.02.11 14:48:00 - [62] Originally by: Ryhss Originally by: deathscyth76 5) Take a lady out A majority of Eve players don't know what to do with a lady. I do, getting married soon. :) YAWN No one cares
Sarcough Illrilian	Posted - 2010.02.11 16:00:00 - [63] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Catherine, it's just a game. Get a clue already. What do you care what I think or write? Really...think about it. How does it affect you? It doesn't. But just in case it does, it's because you allow it to. This is not a game. This is a game community forum. This is where people (we are, in case you forgot, people) discuss a game. We're people, often friends, engaged in conversation. If the conversation were taking place in someone's living room we could just tell you "Shh Nooma, grownups are talking", but sadly that's not as effective here. Catherine, you're a moron. This IS a game, and this is also the internet. Get a life already. I can't believe you just compared a discussion in a living room (You know, real life) to a damned internet forum. I might well take something seriously, or even to heart if I was having a face to face discussion with someone in real life, but I know for sure I wouldn't take ANYTHING seriously on an internet forum (least of which one that is centered around a video game). If anyone needs to grow up, it's you.
harogen Techno Vikings	Posted - 2010.02.11 16:13:00 - [64] Originally by: Jint Hikaru Quote: Okay, have a few hundred thousand people pay me 15 dollars a month and I will think about it. Eve is a product that we pay for and we are aloud to complain. For some of us, these problems have been here since 2003, and the same tired rhetoric we get spewed at us every time this stuff happens gets old. Haha... you have been unhapy since 2003 and are still paying $15 a month????? CCP must be doing something right! I have average about three months a year, mostly around expansions. I used to have 2 accounts, 365 a year, so as far as I am personally concerned, no they have failed. But you will find that is the case with most old players. And no I wasn't unhappy back then, stuff actually got done. Lag was identified as a major issue in 2005, and every single year there is some magically hardware, or super new software change that is going to fix it, and it never does, and half the time we have regressions like we are seeing now. ---------------------------------------- ohai! :D
deathscyth76 Caldari Blackwater Shipyards	Posted - 2010.02.11 16:21:00 - [65] I'm in America, Fairly far away from the Tranquility cluster - And I have no issue with Lag whatsoever. I'm sure most lag issues come from **ty, cheap connections / cheap machines / User error. I'm sure of it. ------------- All I want is for the rocks to LOVE ME.** "Goonswarm was always going to go out in a blaze of hilarious incompetence, trolling and noise."
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.02.11 16:23:00 - [66] Originally by: deathscyth76 I'm in America, Fairly far away from the Tranquility cluster - And I have no issue with Lag whatsoever. I'm sure most lag issues come from **ty, cheap connections / cheap machines / User error. I'm sure of it. I'm in America too, and I have noticed the lag...and no, I dont have a **ty set up. You're a moron...I'm sure of it. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
deathscyth76 Caldari Blackwater Shipyards	Posted - 2010.02.11 16:45:00 - [67] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Originally by: deathscyth76 I'm in America, Fairly far away from the Tranquility cluster - And I have no issue with Lag whatsoever. I'm sure most lag issues come from **ty, cheap connections / cheap machines / User error. I'm sure of it. MY STUFFS IS GOOD!. Then why do you have lag? 1)Bad machine 2) Bad connection 3) Bad Network Setup 4) Bad Router Setup [Part of 3, disable "Block WAN requests, if you really want to * about it] 5) User error [Usually, It's this] Pick one. ------------- All I want is for the rocks to LOVE ME.** "Goonswarm was always going to go out in a blaze of hilarious incompetence, trolling and noise."
harogen Techno Vikings	Posted - 2010.02.11 16:56:00 - [68] Edited by: harogen on 11/02/2010 16:56:26 Originally by: deathscyth76 Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Originally by: deathscyth76 I'm in America, Fairly far away from the Tranquility cluster - And I have no issue with Lag whatsoever. I'm sure most lag issues come from **ty, cheap connections / cheap machines / User error. I'm sure of it. MY STUFFS IS GOOD!. Then why do you have lag? 1)Bad machine 2) Bad connection 3) Bad Network Setup 4) Bad Router Setup [Part of 3, disable "Block WAN requests, if you really want to *** about it] 5) User error [Usually, It's this] Pick one. I hope your trolling, god I hope, for the integrity of the Eve community. ---------------------------------------- ohai! :D
deathscyth76 Caldari Blackwater Shipyards	Posted - 2010.02.11 16:58:00 - [69] I, seriously, Do not see the lag. Honest to God. ------------- All I want is for the rocks to LOVE ME. "Goonswarm was always going to go out in a blaze of hilarious incompetence, trolling and noise."
chrisss0r	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:06:00 - [70] it's just amazing how people will go emorage. A bit of lag and a 15 minutes downtime leads to OHMYGODDON WORST RELEASE EVER OMG WORST CODE EVER it's the eric cartman - like ****tards that also go emorage on her mother when she dares to forget that her lovely only son wants pie when he plays halo and pancakes when he plays eve and not the other way round GODDAMNIT
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:16:00 - [71] Originally by: chrisss0r Edited by: chrisss0r on 11/02/2010 17:09:00 it's just amazing how people will go emorage. A bit of lag and a 15 minutes downtime leads to OHMYGODDON WORST RELEASE EVER OMG WORST CODE EVER it's the eric cartman - like **tards that also go emorage on her mother when she dares to forget that her lovely only son wants pie when he plays halo and pancakes when he plays eve and not the other way round GODDAMNIT. ninjaedit: i dont even wanna know how many petitions ccps gets with content like: I could not finish looting this wreck beause of the server shutdown so please reimburse the 1200 arti that was in there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111 think of it this way...you purchase an automobile, but every so often you have a lag in speed for 15 min. now, wouldn't that ** you off? sure, eve is not auto but it's still a product you purchase. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
deathscyth76 Caldari Blackwater Shipyards	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:16:00 - [72] Originally by: chrisss0r Edited by: chrisss0r on 11/02/2010 17:09:00 it's just amazing how people will go emorage. A bit of lag and a 15 minutes downtime leads to OHMYGODDON WORST RELEASE EVER OMG WORST CODE EVER it's the eric cartman - like **tards that also go emorage on her mother when she dares to forget that her lovely only son wants pie when he plays halo and pancakes when he plays eve and not the other way round GODDAMNIT. ninjaedit: i dont even wanna know how many petitions ccps gets with content like: I could not finish looting this wreck beause of the server shutdown so please reimburse the 1200 arti that was in there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111 This. ------------- All I want is for the rocks to LOVE ME.** "Goonswarm was always going to go out in a blaze of hilarious incompetence, trolling and noise."
chrisss0r	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:19:00 - [73] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Originally by: chrisss0r Edited by: chrisss0r on 11/02/2010 17:09:00 it's just amazing how people will go emorage. A bit of lag and a 15 minutes downtime leads to OHMYGODDON WORST RELEASE EVER OMG WORST CODE EVER it's the eric cartman - like **tards that also go emorage on her mother when she dares to forget that her lovely only son wants pie when he plays halo and pancakes when he plays eve and not the other way round GODDAMNIT. ninjaedit: i dont even wanna know how many petitions ccps gets with content like: I could not finish looting this wreck beause of the server shutdown so please reimburse the 1200 arti that was in there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111 think of it this way...you purchase an automobile, but every so often you have a lag in speed for 15 min. now, wouldn't that ** you off? sure, eve is not auto but it's still a product you purchase. Thats why you never have to switch parts and why repairing cars is not a job that exists. OH WAIT There are reallife constraints to all products in the world. And software is buggy every now and then because u cannot test any possible environment state. The amount of bugs and whether they are adressed is important and ccp is doing a good job given the experience with other games i have
deathscyth76 Caldari Blackwater Shipyards	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:24:00 - [74] Originally by: chrisss0r Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Originally by: chrisss0r Edited by: chrisss0r on 11/02/2010 17:09:00 it's just amazing how people will go emorage. A bit of lag and a 15 minutes downtime leads to OHMYGODDON WORST RELEASE EVER OMG WORST CODE EVER it's the eric cartman - like **tards that also go emorage on her mother when she dares to forget that her lovely only son wants pie when he plays halo and pancakes when he plays eve and not the other way round GODDAMNIT. ninjaedit: i dont even wanna know how many petitions ccps gets with content like: I could not finish looting this wreck beause of the server shutdown so please reimburse the 1200 arti that was in there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111 think of it this way...you purchase an automobile, but every so often you have a lag in speed for 15 min. now, wouldn't that you off? sure, eve is not auto but it's still a product you purchase. Thats why you never have to switch parts and why repairing cars is not a job that exists. OH WAIT There are reallife constraints to all products in the world. And software is buggy every now and then because u cannot test any possible environment state. The amount of bugs and whether they are adressed is important and ccp is doing a good job given the experience with other games i have Nooma, You just keep getting your ass handed to you, Don't you? Ever consider just...Oh, I dont know... Shutting it? ------------- All I want is for the rocks to LOVE ME.** "Goonswarm was always going to go out in a blaze of hilarious incompetence, trolling and noise."
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:25:00 - [75] Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 11/02/2010 17:26:46 Originally by: chrisss0r And software is buggy every now and then because u cannot test any possible environment state. The amount of bugs and whether they are adressed is important and ccp is doing a good job given the experience with other games i have Software does not create itself. It is as buggy as the programmer allows it to be. Testing involves re-creating every possible environment rate. At least the responsible software companies see it that way. But then again, this is just a game so who cares? Originally by: deathscyth76 Nooma, You just keep getting your ass handed to you, Don't you? Ever consider just...Oh, I dont know... Shutting it? Dont you have homework or chores or something to do? ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
chrisss0r	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:32:00 - [76] Edited by: chrisss0r on 11/02/2010 17:36:41 Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 11/02/2010 17:26:46 Originally by: chrisss0r And software is buggy every now and then because u cannot test any possible environment state. The amount of bugs and whether they are adressed is important and ccp is doing a good job given the experience with other games i have Software does not create itself. It is as buggy as the programmer allows it to be. Testing involves re-creating every possible environment rate. At least the responsible software companies see it that way. But then again, this is just a game so who cares? Originally by: deathscyth76 Nooma, You just keep getting your ass handed to you, Don't you? Ever consider just...Oh, I dont know... Shutting it? Dont you have homework or chores or something to do? if you had actally worked one day in your life you would know that professional software that is paid thousands of dollars for also encounters bugs. Maybe you#ll grow a sense for putting things in perspective when u did 2 weeks of work, held some management presentations and then get an email from the awesome software company stating how there MIGHT BE computational errors in the recent release. but yeah 15 minutes downtime leads to falling skys and all that By claiming that ccp or any programmer could simulate every possible situation you just out yourself as a complete moron. But yeah maybe they should simulate me sitting in the netherlands with osX 10.6.1 using a maelstrom to fire 650s at a sentinel that is at vektor -10, 12, 88 while 1500 people with different systems and doing different actions are in the same system. HOW HARD CAN IT BE TO TEST EVERY POSSIBLE COMBINATION CCP!!!!!!
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:36:00 - [77] Originally by: chrisss0r Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 11/02/2010 17:26:46 Originally by: chrisss0r And software is buggy every now and then because u cannot test any possible environment state. The amount of bugs and whether they are adressed is important and ccp is doing a good job given the experience with other games i have Software does not create itself. It is as buggy as the programmer allows it to be. Testing involves re-creating every possible environment rate. At least the responsible software companies see it that way. But then again, this is just a game so who cares? Originally by: deathscyth76 Nooma, You just keep getting your ass handed to you, Don't you? Ever consider just...Oh, I dont know... Shutting it? Dont you have homework or chores or something to do? if you had actally worked one day in your life you would know that professional software that is paid thousands of dollars for also encounters bugs. By claiming that ccp or any programmer could simulate every possible situation you just out yourself as a complete moron. But yeah maybe they should simulate me sitting in the netherlands with osX 10.6.1 using a maelstrom to fire 650s at a sentinel that is at vektor -10, 12, 88 while 1500 people with different systems and doing different actions are in the same system. HOW HARD CAN IT BE TO TEST EVERY POSSIBLE COMBINATION CCP!!!!!! That is what testing software is for. It tests all possible scenarios. Keep in mind that behind the graphics, EVE is nothing but a numbers game. and yes, good programmers are taught to test for any possible input...even the stupid invalid ones that may crash a system. So who's the moron now. Go read a book already. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
deathscyth76 Caldari Blackwater Shipyards	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:36:00 - [78] Originally by: deathscyth76 Nooma, You just keep getting your ass handed to you, Don't you? Ever consider just...Oh, I dont know... Shutting it? Dont you have homework or chores or something to do? I'm at work. IT guy for a small e-business. Maybe you've heard of it, Paypal? ------------- All I want is for the rocks to LOVE ME. "Goonswarm was always going to go out in a blaze of hilarious incompetence, trolling and noise."
chrisss0r	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:38:00 - [79] Edited by: chrisss0r on 11/02/2010 17:38:54 Originally by: Nooma K'Larr That is what testing software is for. It tests all possible scenarios. Keep in mind that behind the graphics, EVE is nothing but a numbers game. and yes, good programmers are taught to test for any possible input...even the stupid invalid ones that may crash a system. So who's the moron now. Go read a book already. get a ****ing clue. ninjaedit + repeat: Maybe you'll grow a sense for putting things in perspective when u did 2 weeks of work, held some management presentations and then get an email from the awesome software company stating how there MIGHT BE computational errors in the recent release. but yeah 15 minutes downtime leads to falling skys and all that
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:42:00 - [80] Originally by: chrisss0r Edited by: chrisss0r on 11/02/2010 17:38:54 Originally by: Nooma K'Larr That is what testing software is for. It tests all possible scenarios. Keep in mind that behind the graphics, EVE is nothing but a numbers game. and yes, good programmers are taught to test for any possible input...even the stupid invalid ones that may crash a system. So who's the moron now. Go read a book already. get a ****ing clue. ninjaedit + repeat: Maybe you'll grow a sense for putting things in perspective when u did 2 weeks of work, held some management presentations and then get an email from the awesome software company stating how there MIGHT BE computational errors in the recent release. but yeah 15 minutes downtime leads to falling skys and all that nice try, but you still FAIL! Oh and the PAYPAL guy...get back to work and stop wasting your employers time...and bandwidth. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
chrisss0r	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:45:00 - [81] better start yelling at your mom. that pie is overdue
deathscyth76 Caldari Blackwater Shipyards	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:47:00 - [82] Stop wasting my air, damnit. I need that for, y'know, THOUGHT. [With my brain. And stuff. Ya dig?] ------------- All I want is for the rocks to LOVE ME. "Goonswarm was always going to go out in a blaze of hilarious incompetence, trolling and noise."
Sista Jaxx Pator Tech School	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:47:00 - [83] Originally by: chrisss0r Edited by: chrisss0r on 11/02/2010 17:09:00 it's just amazing how people will go emorage. A bit of lag and a 15 minutes downtime leads to OHMYGODDON WORST RELEASE EVER OMG WORST CODE EVER Lol.
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:47:00 - [84] Originally by: chrisss0r better start yelling at your mom. that pie is overdue Im certain "pie" is missing from your life. That's the problem. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
Stu Pendisdick Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:50:00 - [85] Originally by: chrisss0r better start yelling at your mom. that pie is overdue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVVS_Ey7xJk
Droog 1 Black Rise Inbreds	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:58:00 - [86] Originally by: deathscyth76 I'm sure most lag issues come from ****ty, cheap connections / cheap machines / User error. I'm sure of it. Proves how much you know
Von Mukesh	Posted - 2010.02.11 17:58:00 - [87] I just kinda feel sorry for Nooma K'lar or whatever his name is. (didn't feel like wasting the time to spell check it) Seriously, imagine being that miffed about the game but finding nothing better to do with your time than bash it on the forums. I've learned some things about players who just log in and change skills, but can't find anything to do. A) they are not creative enough to figure out what they want to do B) they like to blame others for this lack of creativity (ie CCP) C) they are too antisocial to find other people to do things with. this I blame on their general annoying attitude.
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.02.11 18:05:00 - [88] Originally by: Von Mukesh I just kinda feel sorry for Nooma K'lar or whatever his name is. (didn't feel like wasting the time to spell check it) Seriously, imagine being that miffed about the game but finding nothing better to do with your time than bash it on the forums. I've learned some things about players who just log in and change skills, but can't find anything to do. A) they are not creative enough to figure out what they want to do B) they like to blame others for this lack of creativity (ie CCP) C) they are too antisocial to find other people to do things with. this I blame on their general annoying attitude. Who said I'm miffed? I'm laughing my ass off yanking your chains. I love EVE...it allows me to do this. Forum PvP FTW!! Hey PAYPAL-guy, chrisss0r is offering "pie." Or maybe it's his mom...check it out. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
Sprilk	Posted - 2010.02.11 18:07:00 - [89] Originally by: harogen Originally by: Jint Hikaru Quote: Okay, have a few hundred thousand people pay me 15 dollars a month and I will think about it. Eve is a product that we pay for and we are aloud to complain. For some of us, these problems have been here since 2003, and the same tired rhetoric we get spewed at us every time this stuff happens gets old. Haha... you have been unhapy since 2003 and are still paying $15 a month????? CCP must be doing something right! I have average about three months a year, mostly around expansions. I used to have 2 accounts, 365 a year, so as far as I am personally concerned, no they have failed. But you will find that is the case with most old players. And no I wasn't unhappy back then, stuff actually got done. Lag was identified as a major issue in 2005, and every single year there is some magically hardware, or super new software change that is going to fix it, and it never does, and half the time we have regressions like we are seeing now. If you have been in game that long, then you will have realized that lag is on average getting better... unfortatly we are poeple so as lag gets reduced we just toss more people in making lag worse again. Less lag = more people in fleets More people in fleets = more lag it will be teh cycle forever. This is discounting post patch lag (thats always an issue, because its impossible to test things on a server wide scale, pre deployment.) eve is the longets running continuously growing mmorg, they must be doing something right? no? Also everyone who is whinning is still playing so it cant be that bad... if it was they would not be here to whine about it.
deathscyth76 Caldari Blackwater Shipyards	Posted - 2010.02.11 18:10:00 - [90] Originally by: Droog 1 Originally by: deathscyth76 I'm sure most lag issues come from **ty, cheap connections / cheap machines / User error. I'm sure of it. Proves how much you know This is referring to 1600+ man fleets. Unless every system has 1600+ people in it, there's no reason for *ing. Also - The devblog mentions information "Not getting there in a timely fashion". This would be said "Crappy connections" that I mentioned. I, for one, have no issues with my machines talking to CCP's node. ------------- All I want is for the rocks to LOVE ME.** "Goonswarm was always going to go out in a blaze of hilarious incompetence, trolling and noise."

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