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Asp Immel
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Posted - 2010.02.12 10:53:00 -
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Hey guys,
I'm fairly new to 0.0 and I enjoy doing solo roams, it's been going good so far but many of the camps that I'll jump into will just pop me before I can get back to the gate. This obviously isn't very fun, it takes a bit of time for me to set up ships in 0.0, other than consulting the clairvoyant there's not much I can do about jumping into the wrong system once in a while.
So I figured that the Hurricane for instance has enough high slots to fit a cloak (even an improved one if you don't mind fitting a nano or overdrive). You still have room for a neut and I can go about my business just fine without a launcher or second neut.
This would allow me to use the cloak + mwd trick, something that should increase my chances of getting back to the gate quite substantially. It would also allow me to hold in systems, rat or even afk if I so wished.
The downside is ofcourse the battleship scan res that you'd get. This is obviously a great concern but I'm not sure wether or not it outweighs the benefits.
- What are your opinions?
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Yakumo Smith
Gallente No End To Infinity Fleetingly Finite
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Posted - 2010.02.12 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Yakumo Smith on 12/02/2010 11:10:36 You have to weigh up the pro's and cons.
The cloak MWD trick won't work in a bubble.
If you cloak in a bubble and try to slow boat it, you'll likely be decloaked before you get far and the recalibration penalty will mean you are half dead before you even get a chance to lock.
On the plus point though, it will be handy for you if you "hide" at a safe spot for any length of time.
I'd run around in an inty/assualt frig for a week or so until you get a feel for the area. You'll then know where/when you'll be able to get away with using the hurricane (without cloak) and when you need something more nimble.
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Leviathan Tank
Lost Innocence
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Posted - 2010.02.12 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Yakumo Smith Edited by: Yakumo Smith on 12/02/2010 11:10:36 You have to weigh up the pro's and cons.
The cloak MWD trick won't work in a bubble.
If you cloak in a bubble and try to slow boat it, you'll likely be decloaked before you get far and the recalibration penalty will mean you are half dead before you even get a chance to lock.
On the plus point though, it will be handy for you if you "hide" at a safe spot for any length of time.
I'd run around in an inty/assualt frig for a week or so until you get a feel for the area. You'll then know where/when you'll be able to get away with using the hurricane (without cloak) and when you need something more nimble.
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.02.12 14:26:00 -
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My opinion is:
1. Solo players roll with small uncatchable ships or t3 ships with the same two boring subsystems or cynabals lately(yawn) in 0.0.
2. Groups typically don't use cloaks well because they are in groups (98% of 0.0). |
Darthewok
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.02.12 14:45:00 -
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maybe instead of cloak, train all speed-related skills up, fit 2 x nanofiber internal structure II, overheat your MWD when you burn back to the gate? vagacane, not cloakalame.
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.12 14:45:00 -
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Well, it depends how big is the enemy blob. If you know that they will respond with a 60 ship fleet for 10 HACs, then you fit a cloak and when your scout finds their camp, you go to safespot and cloak, go watch a movie, read a book, all the while the reds with 3ple sebos are CTRL+clicking their empty overview. When you come back, check forums and respond to the AFK cloak whine threads. Then go gank the stupid ones that are ratting with reds in system.
So, if you are in Providence, yeah, you need one. :D ------------ Railgun performance required fix: - +15% railgun damage modifier - +10% PG for Caldari railgun ships |
Atalius Vinelgo
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.02.12 17:00:00 -
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What if you are specialized in caldari... what solo ship would you recommend?
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Ephemeron
Retribution Corp. Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2010.02.12 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Ephemeron on 12/02/2010 18:12:39 MWD + cloak on slow big ships is pretty much a must-have for solo PvP roaming. It's one of the few features left that favors solo/small gang over blob warfare.
Many people think it's cowardly to try to escape from overwhelming force, they consider it much more honorable to die instantly. And They try to convince CCP to change it so everybody dies instantly when they jump into their gate camps.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2010.02.12 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
Many people think it's cowardly to try to escape from overwhelming force, they consider it much more vulnerable to die instantly. And They try to convince CCP to change it so everybody dies instantly when they jump into their gate camps.
Imo CCP should allow light dictors to bubble in lowsec, that'd be one lame tactic less, and also remove the douchebaggery that is the logoffski.
Ofc carebears will disagree.
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Ephemeron
Retribution Corp. Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2010.02.12 18:19:00 -
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I'm a fighter and I disagree. This game has enough perks an benefits for people working together. Solo people need to have some advantages.
Real carebears don't go to low sec anyways. Noobs go, just cause they haven't learned the game yet. But what's the point of killing noobs?
Maybe it's just me, but I value overcoming challenges. If the game is too easy then it's plain boring.
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kyrieee
Psykotic Meat Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.02.12 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan
Originally by: Ephemeron
Many people think it's cowardly to try to escape from overwhelming force, they consider it much more vulnerable to die instantly. And They try to convince CCP to change it so everybody dies instantly when they jump into their gate camps.
Imo CCP should allow light dictors to bubble in lowsec, that'd be one lame tactic less, and also remove the douchebaggery that is the logoffski.
Ofc carebears will disagree.
People who actually PvP in lowsec would disagree
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TimMc
Gallente Trans-Solar Works Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.02.12 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: TimMc on 12/02/2010 18:36:41
Originally by: Omara Otawan
Originally by: Ephemeron
Many people think it's cowardly to try to escape from overwhelming force, they consider it much more vulnerable to die instantly. And They try to convince CCP to change it so everybody dies instantly when they jump into their gate camps.
Imo CCP should allow light dictors to bubble in lowsec, that'd be one lame tactic less, and also remove the douchebaggery that is the logoffski.
Ofc carebears will disagree.
Anyone who has lived in lowsec would disagree. The main attraction is no bubbles, so no risk to pods. If I want npc stations and bubbles, I'd live in curse or something.
Edit: And no tackling frigates on gates, and no sling bubbles.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.02.12 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Atalius Vinelgo What if you are specialized in caldari... what solo ship would you recommend?
Moa's not bad. Caracal's good for slaughtering frigates. Merlin and Cormorant are quite passable too.
If you're feeling rich, I quite like the Falcon.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2010.02.12 19:07:00 -
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Edited by: Omara Otawan on 12/02/2010 19:10:19
Originally by: TimMc
Anyone who has lived in lowsec would disagree. The main attraction is no bubbles, so no risk to pods. If I want npc stations and bubbles, I'd live in curse or something.
It depends, I live mainly in lowsec, but lately it seems the main attraction is mwd-cloaking battleships and logging off after jumping a gate, once you have that sh*t pulled on you four times in less than an hour it gets old really quick.
And claiming it benefits solo pvp is pure nonsense, nothing is preventing the solo pvper from dualboxing a scout alt like every roaming gang does, quite the contrary, from the few viable targets for a solo pvper half are pulling the mwd-cloak and unlike a gang that can simply have a ceptor decloak them you cant do nothing.
Imo light dictor bubbles are still a long way from sentrytanking HICs with their bubbles up, or anchored sling bubbles at every gate.
Originally by: TimMc
Edit: And no tackling frigates on gates, and no sling bubbles.
No tackling frigates since when? Buffering up and RSBing an interceptor or the mighty keres and putting a logistic on it isnt rocket science.
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Ephemeron
Retribution Corp. Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2010.02.12 19:26:00 -
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I notice some people here simply want to turn low sec empire into 0.0
I guess I would agree, I honestly don't mind if CCP did it. But I can understand why they wouldn't. If you want bubbles and stronger gate camping advantages, I recommend moving to 0.0 That's where I spend most of my time anyways, it's pretty good there
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Meeko Atari
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Posted - 2010.02.12 20:34:00 -
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There is no real difference to Low-Sec gate campers and 0.0 gate campers. The only difference is how they catch you, but it is the same tactic in a region with or without gate guns.
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Ephemeron
Retribution Corp. Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2010.02.12 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Meeko Atari There is no real difference to Low-Sec gate campers and 0.0 gate campers. The only difference is how they catch you, but it is the same tactic in a region with or without gate guns.
Sorry, but only someone who doesn't take pvp seriously would claim that 0.0 and low sec gate camping has no real difference.
There are very significant differences in tactics, ship setups, ship types. Everything is different.
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Meeko Atari
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Posted - 2010.02.13 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: Meeko Atari There is no real difference to Low-Sec gate campers and 0.0 gate campers. The only difference is how they catch you, but it is the same tactic in a region with or without gate guns.
Sorry, but only someone who doesn't take pvp seriously would claim that 0.0 and low sec gate camping has no real difference.
There are very significant differences in tactics, ship setups, ship types. Everything is different.
Get over yourself
humping a gate is humping a gate
your not "leet" because you sit on a gate with a bubble with 50 other guys. Pirates at least have gate guns and no bubbles.
But Sensor booster gate humping does not make you a PvP'er
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