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Trader Chick
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Posted - 2010.02.22 01:35:00 -
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Hello M and D, I am looking for a relatively small loan of 1bil. I have a low sec alliance that i am currently supplying with mods and ships. I am buying the requested mods from jita and hauling it down for them since they cannot fly there themselves because they are pirates. They are very heavy pvp'ers and die quite often so there is a huge demand for ships and mods. Ive been supplying a few members for quite awhile but word has spread throughout the alliance about my services and i am getting too many customers then i can handle. I need this loan to fill more orders and keep my current customers happy. I am willing and confident that I will be able to repay the loan within 2 weeks with 10% interest. So feel free to post here with questions, comments, and concerns.
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Companion Trollin
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Posted - 2010.02.22 01:37:00 -
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Hay gaiz, this ! looks legit.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.02.22 01:39:00 -
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SCAM!
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1222137/page/1#1
"Hello M & D". Very original
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Trader Chick
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Posted - 2010.02.22 01:42:00 -
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i dont see me anywhere in that thread?
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Riethe
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Posted - 2010.02.22 01:45:00 -
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Raising 500m didn't work, 1b probably won't either.
"very heavy pvpers" tend to have their own hauling alts. Self reliant, and all.
All you need is an audit to prove you've really been doing this and you might be in luck!
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.02.22 01:51:00 -
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You already burned this toon.
Linkage
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Trader Chick
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Posted - 2010.02.22 01:53:00 -
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rigth i dont know why my 500 didnt get raised. However, I made a couple hundred mil from station trading, and ive been supplying this alliance. Some have theyre hauler alts, yes, but some dont or dont have the time to waste hauling their items, so they hire me. If theres a way to show what ive been doing, im all ears.
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skurv
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Posted - 2010.02.22 02:01:00 -
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your current iteration of a "business plan" sucks even harder than your last attempt for half as much... At least when other people try to scam they format their request so that it maybe possibly could sound legit... this is just fail. --Skurv
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Trader Chick
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Posted - 2010.02.22 02:04:00 -
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sorry im not a profesional business plan writer. However, I do have a valid plan even if its not written that well. 1 bill is a tiny amount compared to what i can actually make off this service that im providing. I dont know how else I can prove it.
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skurv
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Posted - 2010.02.22 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Trader Chick sorry im not a profesional business plan writer. However, I do have a valid plan even if its not written that well. 1 bill is a tiny amount compared to what i can actually make off this service that im providing. I dont know how else I can prove it.
I believe the answer you're looking for is.....
Originally by: Riethe All you need is an audit to prove you've really been doing this and you might be in luck!
but of course, since you failed to do this last time, and you're obviously very lazy in your attempts to get public funding... i won't hold my breath... hey in a month why don't you try this again but ask for 2bil! it'll be fun! --Skurv
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Trader Chick
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Posted - 2010.02.22 06:28:00 -
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im fine for an audit, i have nothing to hide. So however wants to do an audit plz tell me.
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Trader Chick
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Posted - 2010.02.23 06:03:00 -
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still looking for this loan, im also looking for someone to do an audit for me.
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.02.23 06:30:00 -
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Not gonna happen.
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Weaver Goldentongue
Minmatar Iron Dragon Industries
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Posted - 2010.02.23 12:38:00 -
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Holy crap OP, you fail on so many levels!
On your next scam, try not to start it with "Hello M and D", it really is such a giveaway.
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Rykker Bow
Gallente The Blackfold Brotherhood
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Posted - 2010.02.23 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Trader Chick im fine for an audit, i have nothing to hide. So however wants to do an audit plz tell me.
Do some leg work yourself. With such a poor posting you're not going to have anyone running to help. Check out the 'Amaar Engineering Bond' thread, a decent example of what a loan request should look like.
Originally by: skurv your current iteration of a "business plan" sucks even harder than your last attempt for half as much... At least when other people try to scam they format their request so that it maybe possibly could sound legit... this is just fail. --Skurv
Ditto what skurv says here. If you want our money then you have to follow our rules. Write a decent plan (there are many many examples out there) with enough detail that an auditor can verify. There is money out there to be borrowed if you can appease the holders of that money.
That being said you don't have to follw our rules, but then again we don't have to loan you our money.
gl, and I hope you do get your ducks in a row and get the loan you want. A successful bond makes money for everyone.
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Ruddy Rax
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Posted - 2010.02.23 13:54:00 -
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i'm not sure what the business if your supplying goods to these people that they are asking for surely all your supplying is a hauling operation so who ever your supplying will give you the cash for said goods plus a prearranged hauling fee?
if your putting goods on the market for sale down there surely you can liquidise some of your stock on existing lines and run with lower stock levels over an expanded line for a little while to build your own capital up?
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Trader Chick
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Posted - 2010.02.23 14:36:00 -
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So would starting over, writing a more detailed plan help me get investors?
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Ruddy Rax
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Posted - 2010.02.23 14:55:00 -
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couldn't hurt but i'd say in all likely hood you'd be better writing up a far more detailed plan and asking for a lot less money with an audit because any offing you make people will eve search you and find 2 failed offerings already be extremely warey of giving any large money to you.
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Vasta Magna
Yarex Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.02.23 17:31:00 -
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oh yay it's GD
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Trader Chick
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Posted - 2010.02.25 05:48:00 -
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wat?
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Drab Cane
Carbenadium Industries
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Posted - 2010.02.25 08:02:00 -
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Edited by: Drab Cane on 25/02/2010 08:03:50 How much ISK-worth of inventory are you selling per week?
At what profit margin?
What is the most inventory could you possibly sell per week to your current customers, if you had all the money you needed?
Edit: Additional questions.
Also, what ship are you using to haul in?
What security measures do you have in place to avoid ganking?
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- Who Dares, Wins
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Trader Chick
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Posted - 2010.02.26 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Drab Cane Edited by: Drab Cane on 25/02/2010 08:03:50 How much ISK-worth of inventory are you selling per week?
At what profit margin?
What is the most inventory could you possibly sell per week to your current customers, if you had all the money you needed?
Edit: Additional questions.
Also, what ship are you using to haul in?
What security measures do you have in place to avoid ganking?
1. isk worth per week is roughly 300-400, all depends on orders. Ive postponed quite a few orders so the first week i will spend about 700-800mil 2. Profit margin is 20-25% 3. With all the isk and all the orders I could sell about 1.2bil worth of inventory. 4. Ill be flying a viator for the smaller items. And for the larger items like battleships, ill be flying an obelisk with ecm support. 5. The alliance basically owns 3 of the low sec systems. Their hq is located 2 jumps from high sec so its relatively safe. The only people who would be camping the high sec entrance is the alliance I will be supplying which i have already gotten blue standings with.
If you have any other questions ill be happy to answer them.
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Drab Cane
Carbenadium Industries
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Posted - 2010.02.26 04:03:00 -
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The numbers don't add up. Even at your most optimistic estimates, you would be barely better off in two weeks than you are now.
I don't believe you've thoroughly thought this matter through.
If you're taking pre-orders, see if you can get a 10%-20% deposit. That will help you grow your business that much faster, and you won't have to pay anyone back.
Well, if worse comes to worse, you should be able to grow your business to a billion in about a 6 weeks or so.
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- Who Dares, Wins
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Tyfuz
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Posted - 2010.02.26 10:39:00 -
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"Edited by: Trader Chick on 06/01/2010 15:22:16 **edited to give you more detail.**
I have an in game friend who will supply me with battlecruisers 20mil below jita average."
That is very generous of your friend, Brutix sell orders in Jita cost 18.9M isk.
http://www.eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=16229
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar Rainbow Road
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Posted - 2010.02.26 11:42:00 -
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i think they make such a preposterous and stupid claim/reasoning so people constantly bump their thread to go 'wtf this makes no sense j00 scamz0r!', much like what i am doing now ehhh
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Trader Chick
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Posted - 2010.02.27 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tyfuz "Edited by: Trader Chick on 06/01/2010 15:22:16 **edited to give you more detail.**
I have an in game friend who will supply me with battlecruisers 20mil below jita average."
That is very generous of your friend, Brutix sell orders in Jita cost 18.9M isk.
http://www.eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=16229
He was giving me harbingers for 20mil below. And it was not an infinite supply, it was only 500mil worth of them.
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