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Alchemist's Alt
Gallente Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.02.25 19:21:00 -
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In Tyrannis everyone will be jammin ;) FIRST!! |
Regat Kozovv
Caldari Alcothology
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Posted - 2010.02.25 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue The big issue is, that it doesn't look like a ship that was designed by Caldari or any other faction that primarily focuses on efficiency.
You're right. However, to point out for everyone else, (I think you alluded to it yourself in your post) it is not conclusive who designed the Scorpion.
The in-game speculation is that the Guristas did it; I'm not sure if there's anything in the backstory that would prevent them from creating a purely "efficient" design.
Furthermore, while the Scorpion is more resembling of anthropomorphism than any other ship in EVE, it's design does not necessarily preclude efficiency in it's design.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.02.25 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 25/02/2010 19:55:55
Originally by: Regat Kozovv
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue The big issue is, that it doesn't look like a ship that was designed by Caldari or any other faction that primarily focuses on efficiency.
You're right. However, to point out for everyone else, (I think you alluded to it yourself in your post) it is not conclusive who designed the Scorpion.
The in-game speculation is that the Guristas did it; I'm not sure if there's anything in the backstory that would prevent them from creating a purely "efficient" design.
Furthermore, while the Scorpion is more resembling of anthropomorphism than any other ship in EVE, it's design does not necessarily preclude efficiency in it's design.
Indeed.
Who are we to say that Caldari engineers didn't decide that having the massive ammount of electronic warfare equipment that is at this ships disposal isn't more efficiently housed as far from the main body of a BS sized hull and engines as possible.
Of course, the could have slung the forward swept EW pylon below the main hull, but perhaps they didn't want the ship to be called "the stud" instead.
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Sky Burner
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2010.02.25 20:01:00 -
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Great jobb! I love it! <3
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vitaminK
Caldari United Kings Intelligence Division
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Posted - 2010.02.25 20:24:00 -
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While I agree (objectively) with some on the lack of asymmetry on a Caldari ship, I strongly disagree on the overall design and texture work. Speaking objectively from a design perspective this is a massive improvement in all aspects. If anything seems amateur and 'unrealistic' it's the current state of textures and designs for the majority of the ships. Fighter Bombers and Tech 3 have set the standard for the direction EVE is headed visually, and for good reason. I personally love the immensely detailed and stylized design, ships most definitely appear more distinguished and mechanical compared to the current bland and average bricks and spheres.
TL;DR: Stop trying to tell professionals how to do their job unless you have objective criticism to offer. Stating subjective opinions is utterly useless in any productive discussion. Some comments almost make me think those people would be handed a Ferrari and still have the ignorance to label it as ugly and 'unrealistic.'
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John McCreedy
Caldari Eve Defence Force Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.02.25 21:48:00 -
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Finally, a Scorpion that looks like a Scorpion. Nice work guys, I really like this new model. Across the galaxy there is only war. |
Elbert Ainstein
The Engineer Corp.
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Posted - 2010.02.25 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: TimeKeeper Chronos RAVEN NEXT PLEASE. PLEASE FIX PLEASE.
What's wrong with the Raven? It look's really great as it is
Spaceships don't have to be symmetrical
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Britomartida
Pumpkin Scissors DarkSide.
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Posted - 2010.02.25 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Britomartida on 25/02/2010 21:52:30 About antennas and too-unserious style ("like a toy") - i think it is all about this "claws". New Scorpion model looks like, well, a scorpion. Spaceship dsnt suppose to look like real creatures. Maybe you should remove this claws and add several antennas. Something like this: http://pumpkinscissors.clan.su/new_scorp.jpg
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Sarel Nox
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Posted - 2010.02.25 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Britomartida Edited by: Britomartida on 25/02/2010 21:52:30 About antennas and too-unserious style ("like a toy") - i think it is all about this "claws". New Scorpion model looks like, well, a scorpion. Spaceship dsnt suppose to look like real creatures. Maybe you should remove this claws and add several antennas. Something like this: http://pumpkinscissors.clan.su/new_scorp.jpg
/sign
That's what I wanted to say with my earlier post. This way it looks not too scorpion-like and it has some more antennae for emitting weird things to jam its targets.
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Frug
Omega Wing
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Posted - 2010.02.25 22:38:00 -
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The new scorp looks kind of neat, but it also does look too much like a toy, too generic videogamey, while the old one looked its part as the old ewar workhorse.
I don't like CCP going down the road of changing all the ships to look like the new t3. I'm afraid when they're finished everything is going to look like every other videogame spaceship out there.
Also the asymmetry of the scorp was originally very well done.
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Funky Munk
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Posted - 2010.02.25 23:03:00 -
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SWEET! That looks awesome.
Please do the Caracal and the Moa next! And the Rupture!
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Aveyra
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Posted - 2010.02.25 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Xtover so with faction designs coming out, when can we have an EoM geddon?
Amen. Love the new scorp model btw. Have a hug CCP.
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Funky Munk
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Posted - 2010.02.25 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jagga Spikes p
balance: while aerodynamics are irrelevant in space, mass distribution is not. engines have to cover mass centers to provide proportionate thrust. otherwise ships would be hopelessly tumbling.
Yep, Plus consider turning and maneuvering. Imagine a left vs a right turn in something like the old scorpion. Weight distribution and inertia are going to do weird things to it regardless of the lack of importance of aerodynamics. I don't even want to imagine how a moa would handle if it was actually built. Balancing thrust to counter odd weight distributions when flying in a straight line is one thing, when maneuvering it would be quite another.
Anyway, not to hijack too much. LOVE the new artwork. You guys are rocking.
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Davik Rendar
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.02.25 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Heinz Schnaufer It would be neat to give Gurista and Serpentis ships unique designs instead of just new paintjobs. The designs of Angel, Sansha, and Blood pirate faction ships increase their appeal.
Yes CCP, I would also love to see the pirate faction ships redesigned with unique hulls. Bhaalgorn with Ashimmu styling? Yes please.
As it currently is it looks like the original designers got through all the empire ships, designed the pirate frigs then gave up after designing the rest of the Angel and Sansha ships. Would be seriously awesome to see what you guys could come up with for ships like the Vindicator after seeing the new scorp.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2010.02.25 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Britomartida Edited by: Britomartida on 25/02/2010 21:52:30 About antennas and too-unserious style ("like a toy") - i think it is all about this "claws". New Scorpion model looks like, well, a scorpion. Spaceship dsnt suppose to look like real creatures. Maybe you should remove this claws and add several antennas. Something like this: http://pumpkinscissors.clan.su/new_scorp.jpg
/sign here as well. The ship really does look a bit to much like a real scorpion
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Shaemell Buttleson
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2010.02.26 00:47:00 -
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What would be really nice are visible missile launchers to go with te shiny new graphics.
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Lord Ivanow
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Posted - 2010.02.26 00:58:00 -
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The new Scorp Design looks nice, still i liked the old design too.
But please let the next Design change be the Dominix! It ¦s an awesome ship and looks like s**t
And btw... why a camouflage in Space? Do you Expect some Treeroids there? -.- was the old Navy Issue Megathron too cool for a Gallente ship?
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Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.02.26 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Britomartida Edited by: Britomartida on 25/02/2010 21:52:30 About antennas and too-unserious style ("like a toy") - i think it is all about this "claws". New Scorpion model looks like, well, a scorpion. Spaceship dsnt suppose to look like real creatures. Maybe you should remove this claws and add several antennas. Something like this: http://pumpkinscissors.clan.su/new_scorp.jpg
That looks horrible.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.02.26 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane
Originally by: Britomartida Edited by: Britomartida on 25/02/2010 21:52:30 About antennas and too-unserious style ("like a toy") - i think it is all about this "claws". New Scorpion model looks like, well, a scorpion. Spaceship dsnt suppose to look like real creatures. Maybe you should remove this claws and add several antennas. Something like this: http://pumpkinscissors.clan.su/new_scorp.jpg
That looks horrible.
I kind of like it. Improves the 'blade' quality of the wings a bit more. I'm now of the opinion that the 'claw' motif is a little overdone with the original design. Either way, it'll look great compared to what we now have. -- Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Tier 5 Battleships
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Night Epoch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2010.02.26 02:31:00 -
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LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT
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Claska
Amarr R-ISK-Y Business
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Posted - 2010.02.26 03:47:00 -
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Edited by: Claska on 26/02/2010 03:50:53 After having seen this: Tempest, i am REALLY tempted to try moddeling it myself.
EDIT: btw, if this is already doable ingame (meaning the new tex packing system is workable) can't you make a minor patch that will add the new system and art asset to the game RIGHT NOW? i and i can say this for others who like thew new design, can't you just give it to us now? pretty please? why make us wait for awesomeness that could be applied to the game right now? oh expansion you say? don't be so silly, that's for somthing else not a minor graphics update, so why not just slip it in a bit early? i can garruntee you'll probebly get a large quantity of beer fedexed or what ever to you, so.... please?
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GlassLobster
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Posted - 2010.02.26 04:21:00 -
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To all of you complaining about ccp working on graphics updates rather than bug fixes: What exactly are you expecting the graphic artists to do while they wait for bug fixes? Twiddle their thumbs? Play twister? Tell campfire stories?
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Syreon 5I4
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Posted - 2010.02.26 07:17:00 -
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New scorp is real good, don`t stop on it)
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Photon Ceray
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Posted - 2010.02.26 08:21:00 -
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this is awesome.
what I noticed is that the camouflage is being redesigned, for the first time I like the camo on a ship, PLEASE tell me it will be redesigned on ALL ships, I always hated T2 models for the crappy camo.
Am I the only one?
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sHERU
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Posted - 2010.02.26 09:01:00 -
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Recommend to have a redesign of 1 eve ship every half year or so.
Let us vote for the next ship that needs a graphic kick in the ass SOONÖ |
Xtover
Suicide Kings
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Posted - 2010.02.26 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: Xtover on 26/02/2010 12:28:35
Originally by: Britomartida Edited by: Britomartida on 25/02/2010 21:52:30 About antennas and too-unserious style ("like a toy") - i think it is all about this "claws". New Scorpion model looks like, well, a scorpion. Spaceship dsnt suppose to look like real creatures. Maybe you should remove this claws and add several antennas. Something like this: http://pumpkinscissors.clan.su/new_scorp.jpg
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Originally by: GlassLobster To all of you complaining about ccp working on graphics updates rather than bug fixes: What exactly are you expecting the graphic artists to do while they wait for bug fixes? Twiddle their thumbs? Play twister? Tell campfire stories?
Nobody has that I've seen. Smart people know the difference.
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Zofe Stormcaller
Gallente Shadow Company Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2010.02.26 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Alek Row I like my ugly Tempest and I know lot's of people is not going to like this. But any chance of making it real? No? Damn...
OBS: I don't know where I found this pic, I have it for years, maybe old artwork?
Hell no, they should make it rustier and more like scaffolding :) The only thing that needs doing is hiding missile pods on the model for when they finally fix it so the missiles come out of them, same as the other ships with launcher hardpoints.
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Tekumze Wolf
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.02.26 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Tekumze Wolf on 26/02/2010 14:15:28 More like scaffolding don't work on a BS. It needs to be sturdy... ugly but sturdy. The idea on the pic is good... just needs more roughness. Welds and stuff to be noticeable.
I am very much against ships looking like they were molded. Large stuff is put together and don't look like a monolithic structure. For minmatar ships specifically I want to see rivets, rough welding, dents in plates, rust....
The only thing shiny about them should be the fire coming out of ACs and arty.
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Nye Jaran
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Posted - 2010.02.26 14:41:00 -
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Can you please make sure this doesn't **** up graphics performance even more than Dominion has?
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adriaans
Amarr Ankaa. Nair Al-Zaurak
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Posted - 2010.02.26 15:17:00 -
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NOOOOOOO! NOT SYMMETRICAL!!!!!!
bar that important aspect, looks great, especially the widow! -sig- Support the introduction of Blaze crystals for Amarr!
Originally by: UMEE if ure another fotm re-roller, then dont pvp. you'll fail.
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