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Aralis Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.27 16:07:00 - [1] CVA and Allies have a long history of trying to keep Providence safe for neutral traffic. However we have to recognise that with so many pirates from Ushra'khan, AAA, Atlas, SYS-K, CCP Engineering Alliance and others at work in Providence there is no way it can be kept safe for the forseeable future. Please note that the rules have not changed and as far as CVA and friends are concerned you are still welcome in Providence. We just don't recommend it. Good luck to all honest folk and the defenders of Providence. :)
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.02.27 16:10:00 - [2] IT TOOK YOU THIS LONG?! -----
UVPhoenix2 Gallente Brotherhood of Heart and Steel Iron Heart Brotherhood	Posted - 2010.02.27 16:18:00 - [3] Aralis never makes a good decision go bad. Never. I know how you feel. Material of this nature affect us all in different ways. What you need to do is learn from this. And this is just my sig.
Omal Oma Aurelius Federation Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.02.27 16:22:00 - [4] Originally by: Aralis ...you are still welcome in Providence. We just don't recommend it. ... ever With U'K at the helm. Providence will never be safe for neutrals. ________________________________________________ <--- My in-game me.
Ethan Blacknova Gallente DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.27 16:41:00 - [5] Ah, just as expected. Finally the fool behind the desk at the top of the god-forsaken slaver hovel sees his mistake. I like how we are not even mentioned. We have you broken, CVA. And It will be my greatest PLEASURE to be there when you crumble. I want the killing blow, Aralis. Nuclear Ammunition, With your name engraved on the warhead caps. It's just a matter of time.
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.27 17:04:00 - [6] Originally by: Aralis CVA and Allies have a long history of trying to keep Providence safe for neutral traffic. However we have to recognise that with so many pirates from Ushra'khan, AAA, Atlas, SYS-K, CCP Engineering Alliance and others at work in Providence there is no way it can be kept safe for the forseeable future. Particularly if you've given up trying to keep it safe and instead dock your fleets when hostiles appear.
Omal Oma Aurelius Federation Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.02.27 17:19:00 - [7] Originally by: Ethan Blacknova Ah, just as expected. Finally the fool behind the desk at the top of the god-forsaken slaver hovel sees his mistake. I like how we are not even mentioned. We have you broken, CVA. And It will be my greatest PLEASURE to be there when you crumble. I want the killing blow, Aralis. Nuclear Ammunition, With your name engraved on the warhead caps. It's just a matter of time. You have nothing broken. You've done nothing. Don't say "we" when you've not participated in anything but banter on a forum. Lastly, you'll never see a killing blow hiding in Empire. ________________________________________________ <--- My in-game me.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.27 17:21:00 - [8] Originally by: Omal Oma Originally by: Aralis ...you are still welcome in Providence. We just don't recommend it. ... ever With U'K at the helm. Providence will never be safe for neutrals. It never was safe for neutrals, and thanks to CVA's imperial delusions is is now a hell hole and burning to the ground UK can only be an improvement on their arrogant folly ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Revan Neferis Amarr The Archaeus of Blood	Posted - 2010.02.27 17:31:00 - [9] What can be said Aralis... God wills it. His moods are very Sani Sabik like of late. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik ôBe still when you have nothing to say; when genuine passion moves you, say what you've got to say, and say it hot.ö
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.27 17:38:00 - [10] Putting aside excitable remarks from various quarters, I am rather puzzled by one element of the statement. I don't think I will comment directly on it but there is an entity present in the list of 'pirates' that I think can only be included due to serious delusions on the part of the increasingly fragile Aralis. That aside, Aralis says the rules have not changed. Yet only now neutrals are not 'safe' in Providence. Forgive me, but this is nonsense. It can only mean that neutrals were never 'safe' in Providence and it is certainly true that the CVA have never allowed neutrals to act to protect themselves against real threats. The CVA has always arrogated to itself the right to determine who may be shot and who may not be shot in Providence. And it is this that has meant that neutrals have always been at threat from the CVA and its gangster allies, if those neutrals have dared to defend themselves or take just action against those who have aggressed them and retreated under the shelter of the standings enclosurist Providence regime. Moreover, the CVA has always arrogated to itself the absolute right to dictate diplomacy within Providence and in its adventurist provinces in Catch. This is what has led to the increased activity of large military forces in Providence. It is not 'piracy'. It is war. War caused because Aralis ignored his own vassals. The 'Holder' alliances wanted to avoid all this. But their views were ignored. Out of loyalty some of them are determined to go down burning. Others have seen the light and the truth. The CVA is the author of the destruction of its so-called 'safe zone' in Providence. No-one else. No, all we have here is a melt-down by the CVA's leader as he makes a thoroughly dishonest attempt to portray the CVA as noble and suggest that the fall of their regime will be a great ill for all honest neutrals. It will not. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Aurelius Clemens Amarr Nordir Imperial Holdings	Posted - 2010.02.27 17:50:00 - [11] The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away. I call upon the new residents of Providence to pay their respects to the God that granted them victory over CVA, and hope they don't live to see the swift vengeance of the God's empire. It was God's will that providence be reclaimed in His name, only through profound faith and redemption will we ever see peace in that region. I call upon all faithful warriors on both sides to cease hostilities, and allow all slaves and other materiel to be returned to their rightful owners. Blessed be. --------------------------- Amarr Victor!
Darveses DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.27 18:21:00 - [12] Don't get overexcited Ethan chuckles We can take Sev3rance, and we did - but without the help of our allies, the Battle of Space and Freedom IV may not have ended as well as it did. And without the invasion of combined UK and AAA forces into southern Providence, and the mayhem and chaos they cause, phase one of Operation Black Lustrum may have been hell a lot harder than it was. My deepest respect to those who fought and died in the battles of DG, YMP and G5 - and to those who keep fighting to free Providence once again. --- Star Fraction Public - Follow us on YouTube!
Irongut H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.27 18:56:00 - [13] Originally by: Aralis However we have to recognise that with so many pirates from Ushra'khan, AAA, Atlas, SYS-K, CCP Engineering Alliance and others at work in Providence there is no way it can be kept safe for the forseeable future. This is not piracy Aralis, this is WAR. Perhaps if you understood the difference you would not have invaded our territory to begin with and caused us to retaliate. You underestimated our ferocity and our strength. That mistake has and will continue to cost you dearly. --
Rorin Cutter Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.27 19:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Irongut Originally by: Aralis However we have to recognise that with so many pirates from Ushra'khan, AAA, Atlas, SYS-K, CCP Engineering Alliance and others at work in Providence there is no way it can be kept safe for the forseeable future. This is not piracy Aralis, this is WAR. Perhaps if you understood the difference you would not have invaded our territory to begin with and caused us to retaliate. You underestimated our ferocity and our strength. That mistake has and will continue to cost you dearly. Sorry Irongut, but you can yell your innocence from the rooftops, and you will still only be a pirate, in a alliance that is not only pirating, but also protecting bloody terrorists. -Rorin
Lucai Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.27 19:10:00 - [15] Edited by: Lucai on 27/02/2010 19:13:43 Originally by: Irongut Originally by: Aralis However we have to recognise that with so many pirates from Ushra'khan, AAA, Atlas, SYS-K, CCP Engineering Alliance and others at work in Providence there is no way it can be kept safe for the forseeable future. This is not piracy Aralis, this is WAR. Perhaps if you understood the difference you would not have invaded our territory to begin with and caused us to retaliate. You underestimated our ferocity and our strength. That mistake has and will continue to cost you dearly. CVA has a longstanding tradition to call anyone they dont like pirates. Not likely to stop now E.g. for our attacks on -7- and other campaigns, we clearly must be pirates. But actually they shot us first, only it was outside Providence, so it doesnt count That has been their so-called NRDS and strategy for a long time. Allow members or holder alliances to conduct piracy or war outside of Providence, and if the victims come to Providence to retaliate, thats clearly piracy
Icarus3 Gallente DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.27 19:22:00 - [16] Originally by: Lucai Edited by: Lucai on 27/02/2010 19:13:43 Originally by: Irongut Originally by: Aralis However we have to recognise that with so many pirates from Ushra'khan, AAA, Atlas, SYS-K, CCP Engineering Alliance and others at work in Providence there is no way it can be kept safe for the forseeable future. This is not piracy Aralis, this is WAR. Perhaps if you understood the difference you would not have invaded our territory to begin with and caused us to retaliate. You underestimated our ferocity and our strength. That mistake has and will continue to cost you dearly. CVA has a longstanding tradition to call anyone they dont like pirates. Not likely to stop now E.g. for our attacks on -7- and other campaigns, we clearly must be pirates. But actually they shot us first, only it was outside Providence, so it doesnt count That has been their so-called NRDS and strategy for a long time. Allow members or holder alliances to conduct piracy or war outside of Providence, and if the victims come to Providence to retaliate, thats clearly piracy Maybe we should start demanding ransoms to seal the deal with out "pirate" titles? Hmmm (lol)
Irongut H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.27 20:13:00 - [17] Originally by: Rorin Cutter Sorry Irongut, but you can yell your innocence from the rooftops, and you will still only be a pirate, in a alliance that is not only pirating, but also protecting bloody terrorists. I have never claimed to be innocent Mr Cutter, in fact I'm far from it. But back to the point at hand... CVA and their slaves invaded our space with the plan to conquer the region. Not to kick our allies U'K out but to claim our territory for yourselves. We defended ourselves, reclaimed our systems and offered your leaders a truce. Their reply was to insult us and vow to invade again as soon as our back is turned. CVA started this war. CVA continued it after we offered peace. Piracy has nothing to do with it and if you can't stomach war I suggest you move to Jita asap. --
Isaac Starstriker Amarr The Confederate Navy SpaceMonkey's Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.27 21:34:00 - [18] Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 27/02/2010 21:35:17 Originally by: Aralis However we have to recognise that with so many pirates from Ushra'khan, AAA, Atlas, SYS-K, CCP Engineering Alliance and others at work in Providence there is no way it can be kept safe for the forseeable future. While I have long respected CVA and its goals and I wish I could be a part of it, I have to point out one thing. You are still holding CCP responsible for the blame of what is happening? Both sides of capsuleers are responsible for all this. The spacial distortions, the humongous fleets, and the current war. Do not try and place the blame on a party which does nothing less than its best. It makes you look like a whiner and a blame-placer. So please Aralis, don't give this bull story that everything is happening because of that particular alliance. CVA bloc and -A- coalition are at fault for the current happenings. No one else. Amarr victor! --Isaac AMAAR VICTOR! "You just can't fix stupid"
Omal Oma Aurelius Federation Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.02.27 22:30:00 - [19] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Omal Oma Originally by: Aralis ...you are still welcome in Providence. We just don't recommend it. ... ever With U'K at the helm. Providence will never be safe for neutrals. It never was safe for neutrals, and thanks to CVA's imperial delusions is is now a hell hole and burning to the ground UK can only be an improvement on their arrogant folly This is where you are wrong. Providence was once a place where neutrals could fly freely. Only until you and your terrorist friends showed up has it taken such a hit in population. Admit your warmongering is only to fulfill your selfish violent needs. Admit you and your friends are only attacking Providence because your transient nature drives you blindly towards bloodshed and that being a terrorist is the only way you and your people know how to live. ________________________________________________ <--- My in-game me.
Tar Kovsky Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.27 22:33:00 - [20] I'm no fan of Concord and various ways in which it extorts money from capsuleer organizations. But I think it's a bit much to call CCP Engineering -- one of their largest subcontractors -- "pirates" just because they were responding to a U'K support request. For the record, here's some evidence of the problem they were troubleshooting: --
Svenjabi Xiang Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.28 01:10:00 - [21] Originally by: Omal Oma Providence was once a place where neutrals could fly freely. (snipped) The Star Fraction has never fired upon a neutral in Providence without diplomacy arising to the full extent of reimbursement. It is only after being impressed to the Sovereign Will of the CVA "Kill on Sight" list or otherwise initiate hostilities with our pilots that they become targets. But then, they aren't neutral any longer, now are they?
Pablos Locos	Posted - 2010.02.28 02:32:00 - [22] So I'm curious, who does CVA consider a political enemy? Do they have any actual political enemies? According to Aralis' statement they don't seem to. Everyone who opposes them is just a pirate. So basically you lost your HQ system, among others, to a just gang of pirates? Aralis, have you asked your Empress for forgiveness? Has she demanded you kill yourself for your incompetence for losing entire systems to mere 'pirates'?
Lykouleon Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.28 03:19:00 - [23] Fighting from inside stations and on the IGS is an incredible military strategy. My hats go off to the prowess of CVA fleet commanders. And blaming *your own* failures on the good men and women of CCP Engineering Alliance? True brilliance. CVA moral must be at an all time high by now! Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
CONQUERINGAZ The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.02.28 04:24:00 - [24] Edited by: CONQUERINGAZ on 28/02/2010 04:24:20 Originally by: Aralis CVA and Allies have a long history of trying to keep Providence safe for neutral traffic. However we have to recognize that with so many pirates from Ushra'khan, AAA, Atlas, SYS-K, CCP Engineering Alliance and others at work in Providence there is no way it can be kept safe for the forseeable future. Please note that the rules have not changed and as far as CVA and friends are concerned you are still welcome in Providence. We just don't recommend it. Good luck to all honest folk and the defenders of Providence. :) I had to hack into your post to spell check it right?
Dsan Smegnet Corp	Posted - 2010.02.28 06:03:00 - [25] first, you suck Aralis second, "Operation Deliverance" has failed, time to make new smart plans. according to cva-eve.org, the goals for Deliverance is;Enforce ò Amarrian law and bring an end to piracy in the Empire ò Increase economic development and prosperity ò Stabalize and strengthen space to futher the Amarr empires territorial reclamation you had two of them, and made a bad attempt at the third, which was all fun for holders and -A-. then you (Aralis) made the dumbest decission this year (maybe kartoon going on honeymoon was dumber) and now you have none of the above 3 goals... Dsan out! Creative commons copy right on this poetry, wanna use it send me 10mill isk.
DonDiablo DeLaFuerro Amarr	Posted - 2010.02.28 12:35:00 - [26] Originally by: CONQUERINGAZ Edited by: CONQUERINGAZ on 28/02/2010 04:28:51 Edited by: CONQUERINGAZ on 28/02/2010 04:24:20 Originally by: Aralis CVA and Allies have a long history of trying to keep Providence safe for neutral traffic. However we have to recognize that with so many pirates from Ushra'khan, AAA, Atlas, SYS-K, CCP Engineering Alliance and others at work in Providence there is no way it can be kept safe for the forseeable future. Please note that the rules have not changed and as far as CVA and friends are concerned you are still welcome in Providence. We just don't recommend it. Good luck to all honest folk and the defenders of Providence. :) I had to hack into your post to spell check it right? As I am the great hacker that your own council forums ranted and raved about so much right? Actually, 'recognize' is how it's spelled in a particular Ammatar dialect. Recognise is right. --- The great EVE drug scandal of 2009 -- Never Forget
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.28 13:41:00 - [27] Originally by: Omal Oma Providence was once a place where neutrals could fly freely. Only until you and your terrorist friends showed up has it taken such a hit in population. This is where you are mistaken. UK are the oldest recognised alliance in New Eden, and have been flying in Providence long before you, your corporation, or your alliance even existed. We once operated outposts in Providence under NRDS principals. It was CVA who encouraged neutrals to take their side and launch a territorial offensive, the ultimate conseuquences of which have taken three years to be felt. But now, you're feeling them. Thank CVA for this, for UK is the innocent party. ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Borgh Brainbasher Path of Now and Forever	Posted - 2010.02.28 14:35:00 - [28] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Omal Oma Providence was once a place where neutrals could fly freely. Only until you and your terrorist friends showed up has it taken such a hit in population. This is where you are mistaken. UK are the oldest recognised alliance in New Eden, and have been flying in Providence long before you, your corporation, or your alliance even existed. We once operated outposts in Providence under NRDS principals. It was CVA who encouraged neutrals to take their side and launch a territorial offensive, the ultimate conseuquences of which have taken three years to be felt. But now, you're feeling them. Thank CVA for this, for UK is the innocent party. dude... I tip my hat to you for writing something both factually true and absoluely false at the same time. To cva: I'd think it would be better to change it into "if you want to carebear stay the monkeyballs away, if you want pew we welcome you." I'm truly sorry i'm planetlocked and pn4 i incapacitated like it is as we could have done awesome stuff had this happenend in our glory days. Quote: you are on the pvp only server
D3rg3	Posted - 2010.02.28 15:55:00 - [29] Originally by: Rorin Cutter Sorry Irongut, but you can yell your innocence from the rooftops, and you will still only be a pirate, in a alliance that is not only pirating, but also protecting bloody terrorists. -Rorin then I guess you are being wiped out by pirates ? well played.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.02.28 16:05:00 - [30] Originally by: Svenjabi Xiang Originally by: Omal Oma Providence was once a place where neutrals could fly freely. (snipped) The Star Fraction has never fired upon a neutral in Providence without diplomacy arising to the full extent of reimbursement. It is only after being impressed to the Sovereign Will of the CVA "Kill on Sight" list or otherwise initiate hostilities with our pilots that they become targets. But then, they aren't neutral any longer, now are they? Despite all that, we're also inclined to be forgiving of political expediencies - most of our 'target' list can be removed from it with fairly simple diplomacy. That goes for most of the inhabitants of Providence - renounce your enclosurist dogma, and stop being CVA sockpuppets, and we're prepared to talk.

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