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Liang Nuren
No Salvation War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.03.01 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Hesperius But you have to be in the kamikaze death zone to get that DPS, which IMO you'd have to be crazy to do in a faction cruiser.
"You know me..." "That's what I'm talkin about!"
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire |
Hesperius
No Salvation War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.03.01 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren "You know me..." "That's what I'm talkin about!"
-Liang
I am not sure what you mean here... But yes I did look at the 1029 DPS the vigilant can do if I fly it the way I fly the Thorax and am now looking for one on contracts.
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Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.03.01 19:48:00 -
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Edited by: Naomi Knight on 01/03/2010 19:49:17
Originally by: Hesperius
Originally by: Liang Nuren "You know me..." "That's what I'm talkin about!"
-Liang
I am not sure what you mean here... But yes I did look at the 1029 DPS the vigilant can do if I fly it the way I fly the Thorax and am now looking for one on contracts.
Oh vigilant does that huge dps???:O I have to change my phantasm to one of those asap:P even if i dont have the skills for it.
At least that sounds like a pirate cruiser.
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Hesperius
No Salvation War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.03.01 19:51:00 -
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yeah, overloaded w/o reload, I think it is a safe assumption someone will be dead before you need to reload.
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Sunset Rogue
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:49:00 -
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Vigilant: 5/4/6 Gila: 5/6/4 Ashimmu: 6/4/5 Cynabal: 5/5/5 Phantasm: 5/6/3
Why do all pirate cruisers have 15 slots, but phantasm has only 14?
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sunset Rogue Vigilant: 5/4/6 Gila: 5/6/4 Ashimmu: 6/4/5 Cynabal: 5/5/5 Phantasm: 5/6/3
Why do all pirate cruisers have 15 slots, but phantasm has only 14?
possibly because the phantasm is more like 8/6/3 with 6 turrets but only needs half the fitting? ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2010.03.01 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Sunset Rogue Vigilant: 5/4/6 Gila: 5/6/4 Ashimmu: 6/4/5 Cynabal: 5/5/5 Phantasm: 5/6/3
Why do all pirate cruisers have 15 slots, but phantasm has only 14?
possibly because the phantasm is more like 8/6/3 with 6 turrets but only needs half the fitting?
Ashimmu has same 100% bonus. Vigilant has 75% bonus but 5 turrets. Cynabal 25% rof and 4 guns
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Hesperius *off topic: Liang check your email, and as a heads up - you need to DL the iPhone SDK, not just xcode.
Yeah I saw it. Spent a few minutes reading the agreement, spent a bunch of time in meetings, put out some Forrest fires, and finished it. It's finished downloading.
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire |
Terianna Eri
Amarr Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lugalzagezi666
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Sunset Rogue Vigilant: 5/4/6 Gila: 5/6/4 Ashimmu: 6/4/5 Cynabal: 5/5/5 Phantasm: 5/6/3
Why do all pirate cruisers have 15 slots, but phantasm has only 14?
possibly because the phantasm is more like 8/6/3 with 6 turrets but only needs half the fitting?
Ashimmu has same 100% bonus. Vigilant has 75% bonus but 5 turrets. Cynabal 25% rof and 4 guns
Huh. I forgot about the Ashimmu's 100% bonus too.
So my better answer is that the Phantasm sucks now. Give it a 4th turret!! ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri So my better answer is that the Phantasm sucks now. Give it a 4th 5th turret!!
FTFY, YW NETime! Also, a real drone bay (5 lights please).
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire |
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.03.02 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri So my better answer is that the Phantasm sucks now. Give it a 4th turret!!
Nah, give it a bigger damage bonus, the model would look weird with a fourth turret. -----------
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2010.03.02 01:40:00 -
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Bigger damage bonus would be nice. 25mb drone bandwidth too.
Hm, this 'buff phantasm' thread looks promising, maybe ill buy few of them till they are cheap.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.03.02 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin Nah, give it a bigger damage bonus, the model would look weird with a fourth turret.
15%/lvl sounds about right - 10.5 Eff Turrets compared to 7.5 now.
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire |
Hesperius
No Salvation War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.03.02 02:42:00 -
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Edited by: Hesperius on 02/03/2010 02:42:08 I like the idea of a better bonus (take it up to 900 dps!!!). Keep the turret hard points, utility slots, *cough* cap usage *cough* the same.
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MalVortex
Reaper Industries Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.03.02 02:44:00 -
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Giving it the fitting to actually use those two utility highs would be a proper place to start. Or just admit they are useless and drop one to a medslot so you can actually do MWD, Point, Injector, LSEx2, Invuln X2. As it stands, the Phantasm either is too cap vulnerable or too weakly tanked, and even with the tracking bonus has very poor tackle defense, on top of its rather :meh: DPS figures.
Compare this ship to a well-fit Gila and you'll just cry. On the plus side, they are like 100mil so~~~
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.03.02 03:01:00 -
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115-125M vs 160-175M IIRC. I saw a Phantasm on sale for 85M about a week back, but I was in Solitude and it was in Jita... :(
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire |
Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.03.02 09:46:00 -
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Edited by: Naomi Knight on 02/03/2010 09:46:30
Originally by: MalVortex Giving it the fitting to actually use those two utility highs would be a proper place to start. Or just admit they are useless and drop one to a medslot so you can actually do MWD, Point, Injector, LSEx2, Invuln X2. As it stands, the Phantasm either is too cap vulnerable or too weakly tanked, and even with the tracking bonus has very poor tackle defense, on top of its rather :meh: DPS figures.
Compare this ship to a well-fit Gila and you'll just cry. On the plus side, they are like 100mil so~~~
Yeah pretty much what i proposed in test topic here.
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