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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.03.03 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Drake Draconis on 03/03/2010 19:05:08 Edited by: Drake Draconis on 03/03/2010 19:04:40 So yeah... I'm just getting to the point where I can afford to use these nice little toys and I see they don't behave like I would expect them to behave when it comes to crystals.
Mining Crystals eventually expire and shut down... and auto-reload a new crystal in its place.
I assumed that the same would be the case for a rack of beam/pulse cannons.
Granted maybe having them in group mode is not helping either but I was willing to accept the entire rack going off line to reload one crystal and then start firing them again.
But instead the whole damn thing shuts down and you can't resume firing because of one cannon not loaded with a crystal in a group.
Instead of breaking them out of the group I would have to cycle crystals out to a different group then cycle back.
For those who don't know how potentially painful that is... switching from Gleam to Aurora is a bit hazardous. :)
Solution - When a crystal "shatters" have the reload mech. grab a spare crystal from the cargo bay and allow the pilot to start firing away without cycling out and or breaking the group up.
Pros - Less frustration and shouldn't effect balance. And allows group firing pew pew sweet action.
Cons - Your frakked if you don't have a spare. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= |
Clumsy Pilot
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Posted - 2010.03.03 19:16:00 -
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bekase improving gameplay is not what ccp pays attention to.
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Drake Draconis
Shadow Cadre Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:13:00 -
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Surely I can't be the only one that has this problem. : O / ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= |
Illrean
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:42:00 -
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You are complaining about having to spend 3 to 4 seconds to swap laser crystals? Cry me a freaking river cause it takes me 10 seconds to reload my missile launcher/hybrids/ballistic weapons.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.03.04 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Drake Draconis on 04/03/2010 19:05:24 Edited by: Drake Draconis on 04/03/2010 19:03:07
Originally by: Illrean You are complaining about having to spend 3 to 4 seconds to swap laser crystals? Cry me a freaking river cause it takes me 10 seconds to reload my missile launcher/hybrids/ballistic weapons.
Last I checked... your "freaking" missiles/hybirds/ballistic weapons don't shatter after so many shots and are very easy to maintain as far as tech 2 ammo.
Secondly... reloading is not the same as being forced to CHANGE AMMO TWICE (Once to get out and once to put it back in and not to mention penalties associated with ammo types) to get the damn thing to load.
So care to try again or are you just trolling to be trolling?
PS: IF your going to troll then at least be rational and smart... trolling like a ****** is embarrassing. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= |
Illrean
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Posted - 2010.03.04 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis Edited by: Drake Draconis on 04/03/2010 19:05:24 Edited by: Drake Draconis on 04/03/2010 19:03:07
Originally by: Illrean You are complaining about having to spend 3 to 4 seconds to swap laser crystals? Cry me a freaking river cause it takes me 10 seconds to reload my missile launcher/hybrids/ballistic weapons.
Last I checked... your "freaking" missiles/hybirds/ballistic weapons don't shatter after so many shots and are very easy to maintain as far as tech 2 ammo.
Secondly... reloading is not the same as being forced to CHANGE AMMO TWICE (Once to get out and once to put it back in and not to mention penalties associated with ammo types) to get the damn thing to load.
So care to try again or are you just trolling to be trolling?
PS: IF your going to troll then at least be rational and smart... trolling like a ****** is embarrassing.
Very well then. Not supported because you are complaining about a 3 or 4 second (at most) crystal swap out time, meanwhile it takes every other weapon 10 seconds to change/swap ammo. Sounds most like the problem is that crystals break down at different rates. Push to have crystal damage made more consistent so that in a rack of 8 guns all 8 crystals break at the same time.
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Dav Varan
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Posted - 2010.03.04 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Dav Varan on 04/03/2010 21:30:15 The really funny thing about this thread is the last time I saw Drakes opinion on the subject of fixing laser crystals this was his response.
Originally by: Drake Draconis
To quote someone
"Stop Whining"
Seriously... I've been mining with tech 2 deep core strip miners along with the associated mining crystals and I've never had any trouble keeping things straight.
And they work on the same basic system that laser crystals would. All I had to do was make sure I loaded used instead of new when I switched things out.
If I can do it.. you can do it.
This proposal smells of cheese and crackers.... not supported.
So I have to say.
To quote someone
"Stop Whining"
Seriously... Drake's been mining with tech 2 deep core strip miners along with the associated mining crystals and he's never had any trouble keeping things straight.
And they work on the same basic system that laser crystals would. All drake had to do was make sure drake loaded used instead of new when he switched things out.
If He can do it.. you can do it.
This proposal smells of cheese and crackers.... not supported.
or to put it another way
..|.. sit on it and swivel, not supported because its a Drake "I dont see the issue not supported" Draconis raised issue.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.03.05 09:40:00 -
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Edited by: Drake Draconis on 05/03/2010 09:41:25
Originally by: Dav Varan Edited by: Dav Varan on 04/03/2010 21:38:49
The really funny thing about this thread is the last time I saw Drakes opinion on the subject of fixing laser crystals this was his response.
Originally by: Drake Draconis
To quote someone
"Stop Whining"
Seriously... I've been mining with tech 2 deep core strip miners along with the associated mining crystals and I've never had any trouble keeping things straight.
And they work on the same basic system that laser crystals would. All I had to do was make sure I loaded used instead of new when I switched things out.
If I can do it.. you can do it.
This proposal smells of cheese and crackers.... not supported.
So I have to say.
To quote someone
"Stop Whining"
Seriously... Drake's been mining with tech 2 deep core strip miners along with the associated mining crystals and he's never had any trouble keeping things straight.
And they work on the same basic system that laser crystals would. All drake had to do was make sure drake loaded used instead of new when he switched things out.
If He can do it.. you can do it.
This proposal smells of cheese and crackers.... not supported.
What all of a sudden faction crystals are a problem for YOU so we should now change it ?
Not supporting purelly because the topic has been raised by Drake "I dont see the issue not supported" Draconis.
There is a difference between a glitch and a mechanic... this is not a mechanic frustration... its obviously a glitch when it comes to grouping.
Now if your going to just poke fun and laugh then go right on ahead.. I'm sure the mods will love to ban a few more trolls. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= |
Illrean
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Posted - 2010.03.05 18:11:00 -
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I prefer to lob missiles at things but I hear you on the cool looking aspect. I sometimes wish I could keep my missile launchers in one big group for mechanics reasons, but have the launchers ripple fire them 1 second apart cause a buncha missile launches look cooler then one launch.
In regards to shooty things.. when those lasers are in a group and you right click on it is there an option to 'reload' or 'reload all'?
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.03.05 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Illrean I prefer to lob missiles at things but I hear you on the cool looking aspect. I sometimes wish I could keep my missile launchers in one big group for mechanics reasons, but have the launchers ripple fire them 1 second apart cause a buncha missile launches look cooler then one launch.
In regards to shooty things.. when those lasers are in a group and you right click on it is there an option to 'reload' or 'reload all'?
I know what you mean... grouping missile launchers just doesn't work for a number of reasons.
As to your question... the "Auto reload" is always turned on... and asking it to reload causes an error... don't recall the message but it didn't make sense to begin with. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= |
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I SoStoned
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Posted - 2010.03.06 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Clumsy Pilot bekase improving gameplay is not what ccp pays attention to.
QFT!
There's nothing more annoying than a grouped weapon that utterly stops working because one of the crystals broke. :/ This is a non-issue for charges because you always have to reload an identical amount.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.03.06 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: I SoStoned
Originally by: Clumsy Pilot bekase improving gameplay is not what ccp pays attention to.
QFT!
There's nothing more annoying than a grouped weapon that utterly stops working because one of the crystals broke. :/ This is a non-issue for charges because you always have to reload an identical amount.
Finally... someone who gets it.
Feel free to rub it in the faces of the people who don't. You earned it. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= |
Vheri Kai'or
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Posted - 2010.03.06 22:10:00 -
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you are aware that the weapons would have to be ungrouped to reload seperately right?
also, i hear tell that 10 second reload times are completely not frustrating in those nasty little dogfight where the engagement is on a knifes edge and you lose because it takes your arty, auto's, missiles, blasters or railguns so long to reload.
seriously? get over yourself. *****ing about an something where even the labour intensive way to reload takes at most 1/2 the time that it takes any other weapon system to reload or switch ammo? even with this excuse to whine amarr players dont have as long sat there unable to dish out dps as the matar, caldari or gallente.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.03.06 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: Drake Draconis on 06/03/2010 22:24:20 Edited by: Drake Draconis on 06/03/2010 22:22:37
Originally by: Vheri Kai'or you are aware that the weapons would have to be ungrouped to reload seperately right?
also, i hear tell that 10 second reload times are completely not frustrating in those nasty little dogfight where the engagement is on a knifes edge and you lose because it takes your arty, auto's, missiles, blasters or railguns so long to reload.
seriously? get over yourself. *****ing about an something where even the labour intensive way to reload takes at most 1/2 the time that it takes any other weapon system to reload or switch ammo? even with this excuse to whine amarr players dont have as long sat there unable to dish out dps as the matar, caldari or gallente.
You are aware that you need to read the whole post before you respond as it makes you look foolish right?
Keep it coming trolls.
It's an obvious f'ing glitch people... otherwise it wouldn't give a bloody error.
Go try it for yourself! I challenge you... go see what happens.
And honestly I don't give a rip about RP'ing like you guys do so please give it a rest.
I play Amarr for fun... same as I would for Matar or Caldari or Gallente. All have cons and pros... this is not a whine about DPS... its a complaint about mechanics of grouping and reloading.
And if... IF (And that's a big IF) you read my post you'd see I would likely ungroup and resume my gleefull fun of pew pew pew but your too hung up over yourself to get that... so none of my concern I guess. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= |
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