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Slimy Worm
Vivicide Vivisection.
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Posted - 2010.03.04 02:09:00 -
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Since there's now secure time codes, people should be able to scam in-game with insecure GTC's. Perhaps something can be implemented to let people use ISK to buy GTC's from other players like PLEX (not just securely buy them from CCP), but there's no reason to continue the ban on GTC scamming now that secure timecode trading is allowed. It goes against the spirit of Eve/dark universe that New Eden is supposed to be.
-Slimy
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Matalino
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Posted - 2010.03.04 02:36:00 -
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What sort of scams do you think should be allowed?
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.03.04 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Slimy Worm Since there's now secure time codes, people should be able to scam in-game with insecure GTC's. Perhaps something can be implemented to let people use ISK to buy GTC's from other players like PLEX (not just securely buy them from CCP), but there's no reason to continue the ban on GTC scamming now that secure timecode trading is allowed. It goes against the spirit of Eve/dark universe that New Eden is supposed to be.
-Slimy
Um...what are you smoking? I'm thinking you should stop before it kills any more brain cells. --Vel
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343guilty1
Gallente Strategic Insanity
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Posted - 2010.03.04 03:26:00 -
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I'm thinking instead of Support, i'll click Report why would anyone endorse scamming, get out of jita and get a life...
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2010.03.04 04:17:00 -
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It's a game not a way of life. You already have plenty of opportunity to scam to your hearts content with in game content. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
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Slimy Worm
Vivicide Vivisection.
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Posted - 2010.03.04 05:18:00 -
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Supporting my own topic
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Syssin
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Posted - 2010.03.04 05:21:00 -
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I'm Syssin, and I support this topic.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.03.04 09:25:00 -
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Scamming GTCs, which have real world monetary value because you can legitimately sell them for real world money, has legal implications. CCP are quite right to avoid these.
As said above: there are thousands of in-game items you can use to seperate chumps from their ISK, without exposing CCP to legal liability.
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Gunnanmon
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.03.04 12:49:00 -
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You name is apt. Maybe throw in the word "tit" for good measure, though. Signature locked for discussing moderation. Navigator
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Joe Astor
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.03.04 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Slimy Worm there's no reason to continue the ban on GTC scamming
-Slimy
Would never happen. GTCs are purchased using real life currency. If people get scammed out of GTCs the chances of them buying more decreases, and CCP and authorised GTC sellers lose business.
It's also why CCP won't let you move PLEX in a ship...if someone get ganked while carrying PLEX in their ship, that's real life currency down the toilet, and CCP would be on the receiving so many rage petitions, they'd never get anything else done.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.03.04 13:19:00 -
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*thumbs down* you got plexes to scam with.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.03.04 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin
Um...what are you smoking? I'm thinking you should stop before it kills any more brain cells.
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Max Khaos
Limited Liabilty Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:05:00 -
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Slimy Worm
Vivicide Vivisection.
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Posted - 2010.03.04 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Slimy Worm on 04/03/2010 20:46:18
Originally by: Malcanis Scamming GTCs, which have real world monetary value because you can legitimately sell them for real world money, has legal implications. CCP are quite right to avoid these.
As said above: there are thousands of in-game items you can use to seperate chumps from their ISK, without exposing CCP to legal liability.
There are no legal implications since you wouldn't be selling a GTC for real-life money. You'd be selling it for ISK, which is not "owned" by anyone since one's ISK is a number on a server run by CCP. Essentially, you'd be giving someone a fake number for ISK, not a fake number for real-life money.
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Future Mutant
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.03.05 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Slimy Worm Edited by: Slimy Worm on 04/03/2010 20:46:18
Originally by: Malcanis Scamming GTCs, which have real world monetary value because you can legitimately sell them for real world money, has legal implications. CCP are quite right to avoid these.
As said above: there are thousands of in-game items you can use to seperate chumps from their ISK, without exposing CCP to legal liability.
There are no legal implications since you wouldn't be selling a GTC for real-life money. You'd be selling it for ISK, which is not "owned" by anyone since one's ISK is a number on a server run by CCP. Essentially, you'd be giving someone a fake number for ISK, not a fake number for real-life money.
Your missing the point. Plex(es) (which were born when a gtc was converted) are ingame item. In game items are bound by "rules of the game" and not "insert random countries trade laws here".
Gtc's are NOT in game items. They legally "could" be bound by "insert random countries trade laws".
Im not sure if ccp even has the authority to regulate gtc's once they are bought. I could buy some from a site- then sell them for cash on ebay. If i sold a fraudulent code for a gtc on ebay- i would be facing fraud charges. Its not a real stretch to say you could end up facing fraud charges for selling fake gtc codes through other communication mediums- eve chat included.
Tl/dr- gtc (time codes) are a tangible real life commodity subject to all sorts of laws. Only after it is converted to plex(es) does it become an in game item- and subject only to "eve law"
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Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.05 07:25:00 -
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This is, by far, the stupidest idea I have ever seen.
Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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Doccia Ellicis
Caldari Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.05 17:18:00 -
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Lol no.
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White Tree
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Posted - 2010.03.05 17:53:00 -
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No, sorry, this allows for more or less direct scamming for real world cash, which is basically extortion, which is basically illegal.
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