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Sonderkommando
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Posted - 2010.03.05 17:36:00 -
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So I have been reading here on S/I for a bit and was thinking about getting a few BPOs. I have been playing for a while, however am new to the S/I side of things. Part of my motivation in getting a few BPOs would be to produce various modules and ships for personal use. Later on if and when I can make them run like of well oiled machine, I would look into selling produced items. For now production would be on a small scale until I could secure the material infrastructure needed to play the big game.
Now I know that it makes more sense to just play the BPC game until you get a handle on things. But my question is basically this.. If I had the time, isk, and patience, to what degrees would I want get a BPOs Material Efficiency and Production Efficiency should I be striving for? I don't mind investing in a few BPOs as I intend to continue to play for the forseeable future, and would not mind being able to produce items that I use.
Thanks in Advance all
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Estel Arador
Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2010.03.05 18:02:00 -
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For production ME 9 / PE 9. It reduces waste to 1%. Add 9 more to reduce waste to 0.5%. Anything more is insane.
For selling copies, people will pay a premium for BPCs with insane/useless ME levels.
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.03.05 18:04:00 -
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Me/pe depends on bpo. As a rule of thumb if you want a global number for all bpo's then.....
50/25
p.s. Your name is dangerous. I assume you know what they did...
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Xenofur
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.03.05 18:23:00 -
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First off, you certainly do not need to research blueprints for big profits. Check eve-profits.com for a list of possible profits per day on unresearched blueprints.
Secondly, in order to find out where to research your BPO to, you would download Eve-Meep and run the numbers on the blueprint in the "Efficiency" tab.
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Chigy
Minmatar Sausage Banking
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Posted - 2010.03.05 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jovialmadness p.s. Your name is dangerous. I assume you know what they did...
You obviously do not know what they did....
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Whargarble
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Posted - 2010.03.05 21:46:00 -
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if CCP doesnt make you change your name, i will hunt u relentlessly. u disgusting pig
The Shoah will never be forgotten. and neither will u. |
Mernek
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Posted - 2010.03.05 21:50:00 -
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I too find it disgusting that you would name your avatar after a group of Jews forced to dispose of their own brethren's corpses.
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Whargarble
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Posted - 2010.03.05 21:53:00 -
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it is two face term-- Special action units Beginning around 1938, the SS enacted a procedure where offices and units of the SS could form smaller sub-units, known as Sonderkommandos, to carry out special tasks and actions which might involve sending agents or troops into the field. The use of Sonderkommandos was very widespread, and according to former SS-Major Wilhelm H÷ttl, not even the SS leadership knew how many Sonderkommandos were constantly being formed, disbanded, and reformed for various tasks.
Comprehensive report of Einsatzgruppe A up to 15 October 1941 The best-known Sonderkommandos were formed from the SS Economic-Administrative Head Office, the SS Head Office, and also Department VII of the Reich Main Security Office (Science and Research) whose duties were to confiscate valuable items from Jewish libraries.
The Eichmann Sonderkommando was attached to the Security Police and the SD in terms of provisioning and manpower, but maintained a special position in the SS due to its direct role in the deportation of Jews to the death camps as part of the Final Solution.
The term Sonderkommando was ironically also used to describe the teams of Jewish prisoners who were forced to work in gas chambers and crematoria, receiving special privileges and above-average treatment, before then being gassed themselves. An important distinction is that these Jewish special-action units were not considered regular SS Sonderkommandos; but rather the term for special action unit was simply applied to these obviously non-SS personnel due to the nature of the tasks which they performed.
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Sonderkommando
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Posted - 2010.03.06 05:24:00 -
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ty for all the info.
this alt toon's name is just a literal translation..as in "Special Unit". This was not intended to draw any connection to history. its also a gwar song.
sorry.
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Spii't Gelekk
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Posted - 2010.03.06 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sonderkommando ty for all the info.
this alt toon's name is just a literal translation..as in "Special Unit". This was not intended to draw any connection to history. its also a gwar song.
sorry.
i would petition to change the name. If you dont do it yourself you're looking at a ban or whatever very very soon.
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Reno Morkuno
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Posted - 2010.03.06 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sonderkommando ty for all the info.
this alt toon's name is just a literal translation..as in "Special Unit". This was not intended to draw any connection to history. its also a gwar song.
sorry.
Change it to Spezialkommando, same intented meaning, but does not show WW2 Links on the first result page of google.
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Rex Nefarius
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Posted - 2010.03.06 12:44:00 -
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People talking about a ban because of that name..... Then have about beeing banned if you name contains any reference to armed forces of other countries? Since last time I checked most countries have commited warcrimes using their armed forces at one or multiple times... Ofc some warcrimes are in their own legue, but considering these things happened some time ago I think we can no longer censor certain languages because a certain regime used that language. Even my own pacifist country has a history, and going far back enough would find some ****ty stuff. A lot of democratic countries doesn't have to go back to ww2 to find serious warcrimes, how about I name a character Lynndie England, or Stalin?
I'm not saying that there isn't some really bad things associated with his name, but people should consider there has happened more things in history and the trouble we get when we try to ban all words we don't like. If ccp would ban that name, they would need to ban a ****load of names in eve....
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Whargarble
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Posted - 2010.03.06 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Whargarble on 06/03/2010 16:51:49
Originally by: Rex Nefarius People talking about a ban because of that name..... Then have about beeing banned if you name contains any reference to armed forces of other countries? Since last time I checked most countries have commited warcrimes using their armed forces at one or multiple times... Ofc some warcrimes are in their own legue, but considering these things happened some time ago I think we can no longer censor certain languages because a certain regime used that language. Even my own pacifist country has a history, and going far back enough would find some ****ty stuff. A lot of democratic countries doesn't have to go back to ww2 to find serious warcrimes, how about I name a character Lynndie England, or Stalin?
I'm not saying that there isn't some really bad things associated with his name, but people should consider there has happened more things in history and the trouble we get when we try to ban all words we don't like. If ccp would ban that name, they would need to ban a ****load of names in eve....
N-a-z-i apologist
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Sky Mart
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Posted - 2010.03.06 17:13:00 -
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Quote: but considering these things happened some time ago I think we can no longer censor certain languages because a certain regime used that language.
That is the first step in forgetting. Some things are important enough that they must NEVER be forgotten lest they be repeated.
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Vins Chicago
Gallente Regent Laboratories
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Posted - 2010.03.06 17:33:00 -
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In living memory is not "some time ago."
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.03.06 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Nefarius People talking about a ban because of that name..... Then have about beeing banned if you name contains any reference to armed forces of other countries? Since last time I checked most countries have commited warcrimes using their armed forces at one or multiple times... Ofc some warcrimes are in their own legue, but considering these things happened some time ago I think we can no longer censor certain languages because a certain regime used that language. Even my own pacifist country has a history, and going far back enough would find some ****ty stuff. A lot of democratic countries doesn't have to go back to ww2 to find serious warcrimes, how about I name a character Lynndie England, or Stalin?
I'm not saying that there isn't some really bad things associated with his name, but people should consider there has happened more things in history and the trouble we get when we try to ban all words we don't like. If ccp would ban that name, they would need to ban a ****load of names in eve....
yep **** apologist.
The Germans wont use that term anymore - that pretty much tells the real story.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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clixoras
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Posted - 2010.03.06 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Nefarius People talking about a ban because of that name.....
you are either stupid or ignorant.
The sonderkommando's were selected prisoners who put the people in the gaschambers and had to clean up. First they where shot themselves after each 'batch'. But after it was clear they were hard to replace they became a permanent group of people. Most where killed because at some point they couldnt do it anymore, the sonderkommando's who survived either commited suicide or went to psychiatric institutes.
Why pick a name like that?
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.03.06 23:38:00 -
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Hey chigy you complete tool.. Did you think I thought they were German and not Jewish? Keep your mouth shut before you open it next time without thinking. Don't think you can even attempt to grow a brain around here. Idiot. |
Master Kent
Gallente black-body
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Posted - 2010.03.07 03:28:00 -
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Yeah while we are at it why can't we just ban all the germans form the game, oh the russians where terrible to the polish so lets ban them while we are at it....
Oh yeah my viking ancesters where raping and pillaging so you should ban the nordic players too...
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Valeria Hoppkins
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Posted - 2010.03.07 06:44:00 -
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I'm german myself and i have to agree, this name is totally inappropriate. Nobody in germany uses this term anymore, except while talking about the third reich.
Maybe it wasn't intended by the OP. Don't know if he's a native german speaker. If he wanted to say special forces in german, he should use Spezialeinsatzkommando or SpezialkrSfte. These are appropriate terms without any bad meaning.
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Sonderkommando
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Posted - 2010.03.07 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Valeria Hoppkins I'm german myself and i have to agree, this name is totally inappropriate. Nobody in germany uses this term anymore, except while talking about the third reich.
Maybe it wasn't intended by the OP. Don't know if he's a native german speaker. If he wanted to say special forces in german, he should use Spezialeinsatzkommando or SpezialkrSfte. These are appropriate terms without any bad meaning.
No. German is not my native language. It was my oversight. I am sorry. I petitioned the name to be changed. The alt is set for termination. As stated before, it was taken from something else and I mistakenly thought it to mean special unit, as in Special Forces and what not. I would never have knowingly used the name had i been aware that it had the history that it does.
Again I am sorry. Its being taken care of.
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Foxbite
Caldari 20th Legion Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.03.07 09:48:00 -
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Internet dramas. Oh noes.
What does it matter? This is a thread about S/I, not about a dead socialist system's paramilitary henchmen.
My search for useful information? Failed.
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shinshubi
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Posted - 2010.03.08 19:59:00 -
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The meaning was originaly special unit and then later also used to describe the jews that were used to clean the chambers.
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chuckis noriss
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Posted - 2010.03.08 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: shinshubi The meaning was originaly special unit and then later also used to describe the jews that were used to clean the chambers.
the...horse...is...dead...stop...beating...please...
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LHA Tarawa
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Posted - 2010.03.08 23:12:00 -
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To figure out ME and PE, I use http://zofu.no-ip.de/bpo
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