Frogs didn't want those capitals anyway.

Frogs didn't want those capitals anyway.

No link but you get a like for flying Pimpsader, which is pretty close to a link. There's like. Two letters different.

The fight was nuts, suprised as hell my crusader came out (mostly) unscathed.

Anyone got a video link?

confirming a guy who flew a thrasher has every right to brag about a rare win...

Was GF no1 can deny we all enjoyed it just dont take 45 mins nxt time to actually get the balls to engage out 17 man gang with your 70 and would be much more fun :P

Was GF no1 can deny we all enjoyed it just dont take 45 mins nxt time to actually get the balls to engage out 17 man gang with your 70 and would be much more fun :P

If only I got killmails for all the ECM drones I killed. Lemme tell you how many drones were removed from the field because of my thrasher.

since non of us had ECM drones i applaud you for your killing of your friendly ECM drones and thank you for your assistance o/

since non of us had ECM drones i applaud you for your killing of your friendly ECM drones and thank you for your assistance o/

You might want to check that Archon lossmail again...

Oh right, it's Qcats and thus minmatar so completely seperate organization from the glorious Sotf and gallente militia, right?

since non of us had ECM drones i applaud you for your killing of your friendly ECM drones and thank you for your assistance o/

Awesome fight guys, CalMil did get video of about 90% of the fight and should have it up in a day or so.

As for taking so long to come fight we had to reship and organize the fleet, plus get our three little surprises ready before we wanted to engage. Doesn't really make sense for us to form and lemming into your fleet when we know you have at least 1 carrier and a dread on standby. Did not expect the Nyx though, if he had stayed on field for about 1 min longer you would have lost that super too btw.

All in all a great fight thank you for coming at us we had fun.

Recent tally on the kills was about even in numbers 23 kills for 27 losses or something like that and 3 bil dead on the CalMil side with 15+bil dead on the Gallente side. Good fight guys, get those ships replaced so we can do it again.

Awesome fight guys, CalMil did get video of about 90% of the fight and should have it up in a day or so.

As for taking so long to come fight we had to reship and organize the fleet, plus get our three little surprises ready before we wanted to engage. Doesn't really make sense for us to form and lemming into your fleet when we know you have at least 1 carrier and a dread on standby. Did not expect the Nyx though, if he had stayed on field for about 1 min longer you would have lost that super too btw.

All in all a great fight thank you for coming at us we had fun.

Recent tally on the kills was about even in numbers 23 kills for 27 losses or something like that and 3 bil dead on the CalMil side with 15+bil dead on the Gallente side. Good fight guys, get those ships replaced so we can do it again.

did you really need THREE triage carriers tho? when you already outnumbered us 4-1.. + conviniently 4scorps and 5 blackbirds with JUST amarr jammers to jam our guardians.. + the fact u made us wait so long 5 members of our fleet had to log as it was 5am :P
and the super was not as vunerable as you might think ;)

did you really need THREE triage carriers tho? when you already outnumbered us 4-1.. + conviniently 4scorps and 5 blackbirds with JUST amarr jammers to jam our guardians.. + the fact u made us wait so long 5 members of our fleet had to log as it was 5am :P
and the super was not as vunerable as you might think ;)

did you really need THREE triage carriers tho? when you already outnumbered us 4-1.. + conviniently 4scorps and 5 blackbirds with JUST amarr jammers to jam our guardians.. + the fact u made us wait so long 5 members of our fleet had to log as it was 5am :P
and the super was not as vunerable as you might think ;)

Have you guys ever once cared about out numbering us when the blobs were in your favor? No offence but you guys have been more than happy to gank & blob Caldri Militia and anyone else you can in the past when numbers were always in your favor and still out class us in ships, so I'd say this is a bit of pay back, please don't pretend as if you guys are somehow have a rep for giving fair fights..

You guys just got properly blobbed just like you have blobbed us in the past & out shipped us in the past, never once have you ever cared about giving us a fair fight, when you held the advantage. I suppose when you guys sit on your Titan every night waiting to hot drop anyone that takes your bait, that you are really searching for fair fights not ganks..

We dont run to the forum after every single victory though.

If i did im sure this squid vs frog cap fight wouldve made for a decent bragging thread;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwTO5KT61G0
Jumping NON-triage carriers in AFTER their fleet was broken lol.

This fight was quite entertaining too;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bTBL-XpsTo


As for 90%? l2f (learn2fraps)

We dont run to the forum after every single victory though.

Be easy on them, Crosi. They're not used to winning fights yet.
It's a compliment to the skill of Gallente pilots that they see fit to brag on forums about blobbing a Gallente fleet.

This is silly. I have no idea why pilots in the Caldari militia feel the need to post on what little victories they have, everytime. Sad really. All if not most of these victories aren't even worth bragging about. Silly.

It's almost like high school. You know! Nerds trying to be one of the cool kids. Atempting to show they have some worth in life. Whelp! Trying to hard to prove yourself isn't cool. Infact, it's sad.

Chill, smile and snub your nose @ your enemies in silence. Killboards will say the rest...


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So yeah, some extra perspective...
Anyway...Given the fleet comp we were facing...we were honestly expecting to fight more than just the 20 + a couple caps in support. The moros + 2 archons wasn't a surprise (the nyx was, nicely plaid), but we were really expecting such a tight, high-resist fleet comp to be bait for more help...from somewhere. There were 20-40 WT's in/around nenna unnacounted for at the time.

Come on now Gavin, you know they are all afk and the ones that are not would bring frigs, dessies or cruisers :p As a matter of fact I lost count of the idiots hopping on coms, interrupting the FC to offer help, and then showing up in a useless ship.

Again tho had a blast, was a heck of a fight. You might want to put a leash on your **** smacktalkers tho, tbh they make you all look like morons.

GF

Why is it always ok for Gals to come to the forums and smack, telling us they were going to run us out of low sec, or that there is only 3 Militias'.. ect..ect add mission bear commits here or ISK farmers there.. Meanwhile we poke a bit at Gal and suddenly it's somehow over the top bragging that we should be ashamed of.



We have heard SoTF and Gals complain a long time that Caldari only brig out frigs or Drakes.. So now Caldari bring out Armor BS & caps and you guys lose in the first big fight. Considering this was a pretty big fight I'd say it's worthy of a little smack talk, considering I've seen much worse regarding null sec wars that barely kill a small percentage of what gets blown up each day in FW.

Relax Mutnin, do you know how to post without complaining? I was just letting the FC know he had some 10 yr olds in his fleet and should probably real them in just a bit. Was only a suggestion that would improve gfs on both sides. QCATS for example doesn't allow that type of smack out of principle and respect for our enemy. Makes the game more fun for everyone. I apologize for trying to help, it will never, ever happen again.

Anyway...Given the fleet comp we were facing...we were honestly expecting to fight more than just the 20 + a couple caps in support. The moros + 2 archons wasn't a surprise (the nyx was, nicely plaid), but we were really expecting such a tight, high-resist fleet comp to be bait for more help...from somewhere. There were 20-40 WT's in/around nenna unnacounted for at the time.

People are going to talk smack that is just eve, this was the first engagement where it was a pure CalMil vs. Gallente without Snuff, NC., Amarr militia, any other friend. CalMil brought out an armor BS fleet into a fight where they normally lose fleets to the Gallente armor fleets.

All of this was with an FC that most of them have never followed beyond cruiser and BC fleets so taking out that much ISK against a known tough enemy with an FC you do not know well was a big stretch for them. I think the battle, while a success, was in all honesty a small part of the overall success of this fight. This was a huge moral booster for CalMil and showed them that they are just as powerful as their enemy and should use their strength in numbers to counter their lack of high skill points.

I would like to thank those Gallente militia members that showed up to the fight, regardless of the outcome it was a great fight and lasted a hell of a long time. I look forward to similar fights in the future.

Video of the fight

Have you ever seen smack talk that comes out of the mouths from Gals in Heydieles, Rakapas and Vlillirier? I mean I read every day that Caldari has nothing but LP farmers running plexes that it's never PVPers doing them getting fights or Caldari actually putting effort to control the war zone. Nope it's never that just LP farmers that win the war for us.

Please don't tell us about 10 year olds when I'm sure you know yourself how bad the smack is from the chest thumpers in those systems that wear the green jerseys.

How many times do you think I've personally listened to 10 year old diarrhea of local, from guys like Val Erwin.. Personally I don't take any of it seriously, but it's fun to push buttons of some of those with-in Gal Militia when they are so easily trolled.

I completely understand what you are talking about there Mutnin, but since those are not qcats its really not relevant to my point. But no worries, I am already sorry I even suggested it. Every time I pwn someone in your corp I get a nice **** you in local in response to my GF. If that's how you guys roll then more power to you. Your not so bad, you just accuse me of having boosts and such.

Nexx you get a big FU in local because you are part of insta locking gate campers. Youve done it many times that people just get annoyed and dont care. There are several others that do this.

Can you do it...sure...

Do we think its cool....no

Do we think its good pvp... no just a gank

We all agree you are a very competent pilot, but when you stoop to stupid tactics like that you will receive the big FU.

At least from my perspective...


This goes for the same guys that run around solo with their loki booster, slave sets, etc....

And they might have gotten help if any of the following were true:
Anyone besides the "cool kids" had any idea SOTF had a big fleet looking to take on you guys and had a workable plan (this is sadly normal)
SOTF/cats called for re-enforcements when the fight started kicking off or shortly before. (That is somewhat understandable, but knowing you are going into a fight outnumbered even with a trick up your sleeve, backup/cannon fodder is often advised.)
When backup was called for, peopel were actualy dragged into coms/fleet. (no one was pulled into fleet or coms, just a shout for "come to x!" (where x wasn't the system of engagement) )
When help was called for, basic intel about the engagement was given so the pilots could at least get in the right ship, and know what they were heading into. (no intel was given about either fleet, what to bring, etc.)

Many that could have helped, that have BS/T3/Caps ready in nenna, did not come. We didn't feel like taking ships blind, with no plan, no coms, and not in the fleet. Most that did go, took KM-wh*ring ships, or fast ships. Some of them managed to help in small ways such as killing small tackle/ECM.

tl;dr
better planning could have resulted in a better outcome, but what happened is not surprising to me in the least.

Nexx you get a big FU in local because you are part of insta locking gate campers. Youve done it many times that people just get annoyed and dont care. There are several others that do this.

Can you do it...sure...

Do we think its cool....no

Do we think its good pvp... no just a gank

We all agree you are a very competent pilot, but when you stoop to stupid tactics like that you will receive the big FU.

At least from my perspective...


This goes for the same guys that run around solo with their loki booster, slave sets, etc....

As soon as we stop seeing SBs and stabbed T1 frigates flying around, we will stop.

Hehe its fun to grief your bears, but tbh I never get that when using the instalock thrasher. . Hard to respond in local when your popped and podded before you even load grid :p And besides I only do that a couple of times a week because I have friends that love to do it. Is it Pvp? hell no, its a straight up gank, but its fun to do drunk off your ass :)



I doubt the king of the cockbag would ever stop hehe

Smack talk is smack talk, you take it when you lose and you dish it when you win. Ehonor is a myth and if you notice after the fight there were a ton of GF's in local because it was a hell of a good fight. What many CalMil guys get upset about is when the Gallente hot drop 20 BC's on top of 3 ships then put GF in local. 20 to 3 is not a good fight its a gank so when you put GF in local its insulting and given that those guys just lost a bit of ISK tempers can flare, I am certain that the same occurs when the Gallente get the same treatment. That's EVE and I hate to put it out there but if you want to see smack go fight a real 0.0 Goonswarm fleet, those guys have smack down to a science. I truly believe that they can crash nodes with their epic amounts of smack. Everyone talks crap everyone gets it so either ignore it or move on. I knew for a fact if I lost that fleet that the smack would have been horrible, but I can attest that QCats are not one of the big smack talkers on the forums or in game so talking smack to them is a bit overboard just because they do not do it in return, most of the time.


As for the editing of the video I did not do it, however I am glad they did edit out some of the parts. No sense in posting a video detailing every command and shift that I did during the fight, can't explain to you in detail how we responded otherwise it will be too easy :) As for the response to the Nyx we had tackle en-route and would have dealt with it accordingly but what makes you think the NC. is the only thing we had ready for that super? To be honest once the triage carriers and dread were off the field we could have just taken the fleet over to the Nyx and killed it ourselves with no need of assistance beyond CalMil but before we had the chance he ran off.

See you next time, GF and GL in the war. Oh and WBR are noobs, figured I would stir the pot a little :).

Confirming Gunthar is a bad smack talker and only knows one word for smacktalk so ignore his post and keep the smackdown going Calmil

This goes for the same guys that run around solo with their loki booster, slave sets, etc....

. Ehonor is a myth and if you notice after the fight there were a ton of GF's in local because it was a hell of a good fight. .

Ehonor is real and there are people/corps who try to adhere to the ethos of honorable space combat and expect the same from their corpmates. It's really just another way of saying that good sportsmanship is important regardless of the communication channel.

Aside from the occasional friendly jest, I'm not a big local smacker and tend to ignore anyone who comes off like a big tard. TBH, I have more important matters to attend to during the buildup of a fight or after one just finished that I don't have time to conjur up smack in with the other local tards. And quite frankly, there's alot of them in FW.

Incidentally, my personal observation is that the people who smack the most (via forums/ingame local) have the least impressive KBs. The ones who possess skills smack the least.

Nice BR from Tek and Gavin. Would've preferred that's how you start the thread off and then you can epeen afterwards.

and nexx

Posting in a thread...

People are going to talk smack that is just eve, this was the first engagement where it was a pure CalMil vs. Gallente without Snuff, NC., Amarr militia, any other friend. CalMil brought out an armor BS fleet into a fight where they normally lose fleets to the Gallente armor fleets.

All of this was with an FC that most of them have never followed beyond cruiser and BC fleets so taking out that much ISK against a known tough enemy with an FC you do not know well was a big stretch for them. I think the battle, while a success, was in all honesty a small part of the overall success of this fight. This was a huge moral booster for CalMil and showed them that they are just as powerful as their enemy and should use their strength in numbers to counter their lack of high skill points.

I would like to thank those Gallente militia members that showed up to the fight, regardless of the outcome it was a great fight and lasted a hell of a long time. I look forward to similar fights in the future.

Video of the fight

SoTF and allies seem to have wanted to fight alone and got roflblobbed. Fair enough.

Yes, I probably could have formed a 60 man fleet had I gone looking for Xs everywhere, however I didn't think the caldari would have fought if we had that many and I also had no interest in spending 1hr telling people how to properly fit an armour BS or explaining to them why a drake wasnt an acceptable ship in that fleet. So I took Xs from a channel with guys whi I knew would have the right ships ready to go (except one guy who was in a vengeance and was promptly kicked from fleet)

I completely understand what you are talking about there Mutnin, but since those are not qcats its really not relevant to my point. But no worries, I am already sorry I even suggested it. Every time I pwn someone in your corp I get a nice **** you in local in response to my GF. If that's how you guys roll then more power to you. Your not so bad, you just accuse me of having boosts and such.

I like how all the relevant ppl in that fight (Gunthar, Gavin, Tek, Wey) are chillax, and all the non relevant ones are noisy as hell.

That aside, great show from Caldari and it's awesome to finally see them put up a challenge where it matters (in the > 10 bil area) . We welcome the challenge an will deffo try and do better next time :)

On a personal note, I was supposed to be one of the triage, but rl took me away from the PC literally 30 seconds before the fight and Tek had to dualbox prot and triage. Guess that didn't help either :(

All in all fun times around Black Rise.

Confirming guy in SoTF that made 1/4 of the posts on the first page is actualy pretty chillax and din't want those space ships anyway..

Really now, we all troll one another, it's like a EVE thing. no need to try to act as if you guys do it any less than others.. You guys chest beat just as much as anyone else.. Quit trying to be so smug and just go back to being AFK sitting on Titian bridge because you are too cool to use star gates..

Titian... the new **** of rage!