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Kora Zilesti
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Posted - 2010.03.11 06:48:00 -
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Edited by: Kora Zilesti on 11/03/2010 06:48:10 That's what I was told anyway. But somehow even though the Caldari won, the Gallente have 40 systems now and more kills than anyone else.
Is my definition of 'win' wrong or something? Please help
Edit: I guess what I'm asking is, how do you win FW?
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Missm Uppet
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Posted - 2010.03.11 07:02:00 -
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Yes we did win! In fact we threw a big party to celebrate. It was awesome - exotic dancers, smurgleblaster, x-rated holoreels - don't tell me you missed it!?
What a bummer.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.03.11 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kora Zilesti Edit: I guess what I'm asking is, how do you win FW?
Thankfully, you don't. Otherwise, it'd be over and my pvp choices would be wardecs in high sec or blobfests in 0.0.
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2010.03.11 09:49:00 -
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Think of the hundred years war and I think you'll have a better idea of what's going on. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
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Vincent Death
Hyasyoda External Security Trade and Development
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Posted - 2010.03.11 11:28:00 -
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The only way to win FW is to have fun. Since it's now the Gallente who get to orbit the buttons and shoot the bunkers I would say that the Caldari are winning ;)
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.03.11 11:40:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 11/03/2010 11:45:55
Originally by: Vincent Death The only way to win FW is to have fun. Since it's now the Gallente who get to orbit the buttons and shoot the bunkers I would say that the Caldari are winning ;)
QFT!!
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2010.03.11 11:55:00 -
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Caldari win the prize!
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Turelus
Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.11 14:41:00 -
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We petitioned CCP to reset the war because we thought it was unfair that the Gallente did not hold any systems.
A turn around was inevitable though, those pilots that worked hard to plex every system blue finished their goal and went into other things & a large number of PVP pilots left to follow Gavin into 0.0
I was excited at first to see the Gallente fight back (from a players view, my character wanted you all to burn!) because I thought it would bring back the fire and war that it was in late 2008 early 2009 but it seems a majority of the current Caldari corps have no will to fight the Gallente and would rather kill one another.
Winning FW really is finding your own fun in it though, for the 22nd that fun was making every system blue and chest beating on the forums. For others it was being number one on the FW stats page in VP or Kills. ---- ---- ---- ---- 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit |
Flashh Gorden
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.03.11 17:29:00 -
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When the Caldari corps and pilots really started to organise themselves and push the Gallente back we set ourselves a goal. That goal was to take every Federal system and turn the entire map blue. At first I dont think many people thought it would ever be possible I certainly diddnt. System after system continued to fall some of the highlights for me were Intaki, Murethand (due to huge pirate pressence in the area)and OLd man star itself wich borders with the Federal highsec staging system.
The more systems you take the less the enemie has to defend and at the same time we still had to defend the ever increasing systems we had.( small defensive camapaign against Microfunks in Black rise) Despite the Best efforts of Mich Taylor and Dark rising wich also included hireing mercs like the Guided hand social club against the 22nd black rise we finally achieved the dream and the entire map turned blue.
I cant describe what a monumental effort that took and at that stage we declared the war won and most people left being totaly burnt out.
All I have for my efforts is this shiny medal and lots of happy memories. Was it worth it?
Hell yeah!
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Turelus
Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.11 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Flashh Gorden
All I have for my efforts is this shiny medal and lots of happy memories. Was it worth it?
Hell yeah!
At least you got that! most of the 22nd are still on anti-depressants over that one.
What Flashh Gorden said is true though while everyone was going on about our superior PVE skills the effort and work involved keeping that map blue while we took the rest was monumental (at least for the lower end corps) there are to many pilots and corps to name everyone who took part. ---- ---- ---- ---- 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit |
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Eelis Kiy
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.12 13:05:00 -
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Edited by: Eelis Kiy on 12/03/2010 13:08:04 Edited by: Eelis Kiy on 12/03/2010 13:04:58 FW is not "winnable". It's essentially a large battleground type of affair. There is no win or loose other than what happens within the individual pvp taking place.
The taking of systems currently has no global effect on anything apart from the storyline and, arguably, general moral.
FW is all about pvp skirmishes. If you look at the killboards you can see plenty o that still going on.
http://www.gallente.eve-kill.net/ http://www.caldari.eve-kill.net/ http://www.minmatar.eve-kill.net/ http://www.amarr.eve-kill.net/
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Cosmic Raider
Costolle Military Assistance Corporation
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Posted - 2010.03.12 17:57:00 -
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What Caldari did remains unmatched by any of the other militias, that is, take occupancy of all the related faction war space. This is the only factor that is truly distinguishing from other statistics, including kills and victory points. Kills and victory points are both within a few percentages. Taking occupancy really only has meaning to those who did it for achieving the goal they set for themselves.
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Eseay
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Posted - 2010.03.12 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris Edited by: chatgris on 11/03/2010 08:17:32
Originally by: Kora Zilesti Edit: I guess what I'm asking is, how do you win FW?
Thankfully, you don't. Otherwise, it'd be over and my pvp choices would be wardecs in high sec or blobfests/alliance pawns in 0.0.
if you think FW is the only place where you can get small gang pvp, you were seriously misled...
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Princess Nexxala
Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.03.12 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Eseay
Originally by: chatgris Edited by: chatgris on 11/03/2010 08:17:32
Originally by: Kora Zilesti Edit: I guess what I'm asking is, how do you win FW?
Thankfully, you don't. Otherwise, it'd be over and my pvp choices would be wardecs in high sec or blobfests/alliance pawns in 0.0.
if you think FW is the only place where you can get small gang pvp, you were seriously misled...
No, it's just one of the best place to get it...
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Bhramin
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Posted - 2010.03.13 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Turelus
Winning FW really is finding your own fun in it though,
Couldnt put it better :)
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Dr Deadbolt
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.13 19:00:00 -
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When gallente had no interest in defending,or taking plexes, caldari took them all.
Caldari then started squealing about how they had "won" faction warfare ( prior to this there had never been named any criteria of winning faction warfare ).
Caldari then started squealing about how they should be rewarded for `winning` . CCP to shut them up ( a bit like giving a fat kid in the back seat a lollipop to stop him saying "are we there yet" every 10 seconds on a car trip ) issued a medal to the caldari militia members for taking the systems.
CCP in a fit of genious issued the medal to pilots who were in the militia the day the medal was awarded. This provoked lots more intense squaling from the pilots who had helped orbit buttons but were no longer in the militia, so did not recieve the medal.
It was then pointed out that a significant proportion of the gallente militia pilots recieved the caldari medal, on their alt pilots in the caldari militia.
When the gallente finally decided to retake systems, caldari were unable to stop them and simply gave up .
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Doctor in the house , short arms inspection , PRESENT ARMS
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.03.13 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Deadbolt When the gallente finally decided to retake systems, caldari were unable to stop them and simply gave up .
I beg different. It was CERTAIN corporation that got tired to keep up ALONE all those systems and just let Gallente to retake those. Others in Caldari militia are useless cannon fodder. There is FEW corporations and ONE of them who took systems and KEPT them while other caldari fodder was being raepd in Tama's Nourv gate.
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.03.13 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: Andreus LeHane on 13/03/2010 22:20:06 A thread in which Pervs members bitterly act as if everything that's happening was all part of their plan all along?
Never seen this before. -----
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Flashh Gorden
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.03.14 00:44:00 -
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Thanks for your imput Dr Deadbrain, but either your memory is ******ed or you fought in a different war than the one I did. We had quite abit of oppersition to deal with.
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Dr Deadbolt
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.14 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: Flashh Gorden Thanks for your imput Dr Deadbrain,
u mad, kid ?
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.03.14 08:04:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Messenger on 14/03/2010 08:05:22 Caldari did took all systems and held those months, and gallente could not do anything. It was kinda total victory on system occupancy.
But it was boring. Most of Caldari players left militia and rest decided to leave systems without defence.
So now gallente is scoring systems when there is only npc defending those. GALLENTE RULES !
I hope they get medal for that !
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Tosi
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.03.14 08:20:00 -
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because bad messenger stopped yelling we must take plexes.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.03.14 09:48:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 14/03/2010 09:56:49
Originally by: Bad Messenger
So now gallente is scoring systems when there is only npc defending those. GALLENTE RULES !
I hope they get medal for that !
I assure you that the npc's are far more dangerous on average than most players I've seen warp in, and often force me to leave even if no-one comes in. They're pretty well defended still :)
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.03.14 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Messenger Edited by: Bad Messenger on 14/03/2010 08:05:22 Caldari did took all systems and held those months, and gallente could not do anything. It was kinda total victory on system occupancy.
But it was boring. Most of Caldari players left militia and rest decided to leave systems without defence.
So now gallente is scoring systems when there is only npc defending those. GALLENTE RULES !
I hope they get medal for that !
lol u mad bro? -----
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Xander Baligo
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Posted - 2010.03.14 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: Xander Baligo on 14/03/2010 14:05:39 The Caldari militia is currently the fail militia. I've been watching on the sidelines and even had an alt in the Gallente militia.
Firstly, it took 2 Calari FW pilots both in pirate faction battleships 10 minutes to take down my Myrmidon. FAIL!
Secondly, some corporation in Caldari militia put out a "Call to arms" against Krieger Allianz. Claiming they were attacking others. Well you caldarians, They did warn you!! DON'T LOOT THEIR WRECKS OR THEY WILL SHOOT YOU FOR STEALING! Now that you have Krieger Allianz out of FW, you've lost allies. Now in warfare, all allies are needed!
Thirdly, your not as focused as what you used to be. At first, the Gallente militia was full of pirates just looking for ganks, now it seems the Caldari are full of pirates just wanting ganks.
So all in all, CALDARI SUCK!
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2010.03.14 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Xander Baligo Edited by: Xander Baligo on 14/03/2010 14:05:39 The Caldari militia is currently the fail militia. I've been watching on the sidelines and even had an alt in the Gallente militia.
Firstly, it took 2 Calari FW pilots both in pirate faction battleships 10 minutes to take down my Myrmidon. FAIL!
Secondly, some corporation in Caldari militia put out a "Call to arms" against Krieger Allianz. Claiming they were attacking others. Well you caldarians, They did warn you!! DON'T LOOT THEIR WRECKS OR THEY WILL SHOOT YOU FOR STEALING! Now that you have Krieger Allianz out of FW, you've lost allies. Now in warfare, all allies are needed!
Thirdly, your not as focused as what you used to be. At first, the Gallente militia was full of pirates just looking for ganks, now it seems the Caldari are full of pirates just wanting ganks.
So all in all, CALDARI SUCK!
Better call a whambulance guys it looks like a spectator got butthurt. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.03.14 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane
Originally by: Bad Messenger Edited by: Bad Messenger on 14/03/2010 08:05:22 Caldari did took all systems and held those months, and gallente could not do anything. It was kinda total victory on system occupancy.
But it was boring. Most of Caldari players left militia and rest decided to leave systems without defence.
So now gallente is scoring systems when there is only npc defending those. GALLENTE RULES !
I hope they get medal for that !
lol u mad bro?
No.
But i know you are , please post with your main next time.
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Istvan Erbas
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Posted - 2010.03.15 00:24:00 -
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Lets hope CCP does something about holding occupancy, then maybe it will be more fun fighting over systems.
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.03.15 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Andreus LeHane on 15/03/2010 12:07:04
Originally by: Bad Messenger No.
But i know you are , please post with your main next time.
Nice try, BM, but we've all seen the towering diatrabes you and your corpies throw when you think people aren't watching you. Don't worry, someone sees everything -----
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.03.15 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane Nice try, BM, but we've all seen the towering diatrabes you and your corpies throw when you think people aren't watching you. Don't worry, someone sees everything
Damn they never tell me things like this! :(
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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