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Leto Atraities
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.03.12 03:14:00 -
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i want to start farming R&D agents for data cores. i tried to use a low quality L3 agent near by just to try it out and the agent tells me i lack some skills even though my standings are high.
what skills do i need to use these agents?
thx in advance.
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Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.12 04:23:00 -
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Depends on the agent. Look at the agent's info window, attributes tab. It will list 2-5 "advanced" science skills like Mechanical Engineering, Rocket Science, and the like. You must have one of those skills trained to 1 to begin research with the R&D agent.
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Valrandir
Gallente
Elemental Mercury
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.12 14:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Leto Atraities
i want to start farming R&D agents for data cores. i tried to use a low quality L3 agent near by just to try it out and the agent tells me i lack some skills even though my standings are high.
what skills do i need to use these agents?
thx in advance.
- Science V
- Research V
- Laboratory Operation V
- Research Project Management V
- Negotiation V
- Two Specific Science Skills to V
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Ravenal
The Fated
E.Y
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Posted - 2010.03.12 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Horchan
Depends on the agent. Look at the agent's info window, attributes tab. It will list 2-5 "advanced" science skills like Mechanical Engineering, Rocket Science, and the like. You must have one of those skills trained to 1 to begin research with the R&D agent.
wrong, you will see when you do show info on the agent, for example: "Mechanical engineering 4, Rocket science 3, ..."
you need to get ONE of those skills up to the level required by the agent. So in that example if you have rocket science lvl3 you could do mechanical engineering research (if you had that skill and at least at lvl1).
Additional levels give you more RPs
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Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.12 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: Horchan on 12/03/2010 22:26:40
Originally by: Ravenal
you need to get ONE of those skills up to the level required by the agent.
Surprisingly, no you don't. That's just the agent's level in the skill. You only need it to 1 to start accumulating RP with them. I've started many research agents when I only had the skill to 1.
However, you're completely right in that raising the skill to higher levels increases the RP/day you get, so getting it to 4 as soon as you can is definitely worthwhile.
Edit: for reference, the RP/day formula -
( Your_Skill_Lvl + Agent_Skill_Lvl ) ^2 * ( 1 + ( Agent_Effective_Quality / 100 )
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Galstab McGee
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Posted - 2010.03.13 04:55:00 -
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Originally by: Valrandir
Originally by: Leto Atraities
i want to start farming R&D agents for data cores. i tried to use a low quality L3 agent near by just to try it out and the agent tells me i lack some skills even though my standings are high.
what skills do i need to use these agents?
thx in advance.
- Science V
- Research V
- Laboratory Operation V
- Research Project Management V
- Negotiation V
- Two Specific Science Skills to V
That's a hefty load of skills
- Science V
This is needed in addition to Mechanic Engineering or Electronics V depending on the specific research skill
- Research V
- Laboratory Operation V
These are needed for getting Research Project Management, which allows you to use more than one research agent, but aren't needed to start the first one
- Research Project Management V
Allows 1 more agent to be used per level. Not needed to five to do the research but helps maximize production of datacores
- Negotiation V
Not needed to five but again, helps with production
- Two Specific Science Skills to V
You only need one of the skills the agent uses. Some would argue to pick a single type of core and train the science skill to 5, to maximize training to datacore ratio.
It's not so skill intensive as needing all of the above to V thank goodness.
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Leto Atraities
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.03.13 15:46:00 -
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thx guys for the info.
now how much can one make off selling data cores in a week? i make a billion a week on L4 missions and want to know if it's comparable that or just a nice bonus isk.
been told it's good easy isk, but cannot get a decent ball park figure on how much. will one R&D agent do or must i farm more than one for comparable isk to what i get from missions?
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coolzero
Gallente
Dutch Federation Player Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.13 15:46:00 -
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nice R&D skill guide
Jack of all trades, master of none...
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2010.03.13 17:41:00 -
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http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Research_agent
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.14 01:47:00 -
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Profitability of R&D Agents
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.15 21:56:00 -
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Edited by: Rashmika Clavain on 15/03/2010 21:58:53
Originally by: Ravenal
wrong, you will see when you do show info on the agent, for example: "Mechanical engineering 4, Rocket science 3, ..."
you need to get ONE of those skills up to the level required by the agent. So in that example if you have rocket science lvl3 you could do mechanical engineering research (if you had that skill and at least at lvl1).
Just to confirm this is utterly incorrect. You only need to train the related science skill (ie Mechanical Engineering) to level ONE in order to begin research (plus the other skill prerequisites).
However you are correct to state that training Mechanical Engineering higher will increase your daily research gain.
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Drykor
Minmatar
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2010.03.16 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Drykor on 16/03/2010 16:49:41
Originally by: Leto Atraities
thx guys for the info.
now how much can one make off selling data cores in a week? i make a billion a week on L4 missions and want to know if it's comparable that or just a nice bonus isk.
been told it's good easy isk, but cannot get a decent ball park figure on how much. will one R&D agent do or must i farm more than one for comparable isk to what i get from missions?
LOL. Nowhere NEAR that much, or anyone would have done it years ago. I think it's a few million isk/day with decent skills, but I haven't cashed in for about a year. And that is with 5 agents and a long long grind to get standings to use the best agents. 1 poor quality agent will probably get you a few hundred k.
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Leto Atraities
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.03.17 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Drykor
Edited by: Drykor on 16/03/2010 16:49:41
Originally by: Leto Atraities
thx guys for the info.
now how much can one make off selling data cores in a week? i make a billion a week on L4 missions and want to know if it's comparable that or just a nice bonus isk.
been told it's good easy isk, but cannot get a decent ball park figure on how much. will one R&D agent do or must i farm more than one for comparable isk to what i get from missions?
LOL. Nowhere NEAR that much, or anyone would have done it years ago. I think it's a few million isk/day with decent skills, but I haven't cashed in for about a year. And that is with 5 agents and a long long grind to get standings to use the best agents. 1 poor quality agent will probably get you a few hundred k.
 well........time to put getting a marauder into high gear then! thx
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