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Reldor Silverheart
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Posted - 2010.03.13 15:54:00 -
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So i am a turret crazy gallente player, so what i'd like to do is either fly the megathron or hyperion. Preferably the hyperion gun platform tho.
Now what i wonder is, what would a proper skillplan be for the hyperion? I got evemon and i've look at the certificates, but is all of them needed to properly fly the hyperion? I would also consider using the megathron as they are both fairly similar.
Other suggestions are also welcome, since i do not rely on the certs to a 100%
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DXYOC
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Posted - 2010.03.13 17:31:00 -
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All gunnery support skills 4 , t2 large hybrids.
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Damien Larkspur
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.13 18:28:00 -
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In addition to all gunnery support skills to 4 or 5, and getting Large Hybrids to 5 for T2 guns, you would also want to do all the Improved or Elite Fitting Certificates. They help a lot. Drone skills for supporting you in PvE or PvP might help some (Like ECM drones, or Warrior IIs).
Beyond that, train up some Navigation skills to get ABs or MWDs.
You know, the usual skills for PvP or PvE.
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Posted - 2010.03.13 18:30:00 -
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 Originally by: DXYOC
All gunnery support skills 4 , t2 large hybrids.
That's a good start. After that you will want Drone Interfacing 5 and T2 Ogres & Berserkers, and maybe T2 sentries. Then youre going to want to take those gunnery supports all to 5. |
Reldor Silverheart
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Posted - 2010.03.13 19:47:00 -
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Thanks for the help everyone added those to the skill planner now and will get them started once i got all my learning skills to 4.
Oh another question, should i get the BS 3 skill while i get this or after i have gotten theese skills?
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DXYOC
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Posted - 2010.03.14 11:43:00 -
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Get BS4 BEFORE you step in your BS.
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Kessiaan
Minmatar
Vagrants Inc
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Posted - 2010.03.15 01:54:00 -
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The Mega is a fantastic ship, but it's very SP-intensive if you want to pvp in it and not suck - you really need all the gunnery support skills at V in order for a neutron mega shooting Null to perform well (or even fit it up properly without AWU V); AM is good inside scram range but most BS fights are on gates and the targets are 20kms away and you can't leave the happy fun RR ball to go chase people down.
Don't fly a Hyperion. A good sentry domi will run circles around it for PvE, and it's completely outclassed in almost every way by the Megathron for pvp.
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Reldor Silverheart
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Posted - 2010.03.15 09:30:00 -
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My main plan at teh start is to pve, i do not have much pvp experience yet and so far i enjoy the pve. If i were to pvp i would do so in smaller ships first, since battleships is not the cheapest ships either.
Allright i suppose i'll get the megathron, i'm not going to jump on the dominix bandwagon tho, this is because the pure drone gameplay bores me to hell.
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Reldor Silverheart
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Posted - 2010.03.17 11:01:00 -
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Allright, i think i've finally set out a skillplan that i will use, the order is abit skewed tho i think since i chose to optimize the order of trainin in evemon. Anyway here it is.
Gallente Cruiser IV
Gallente Battleship I
Gallente Battleship II
Gallente Battleship III
Gallente Battleship IV
Acceleration Control III
Acceleration Control IV
Energy Management III
Energy Management IV
Fuel Conservation II
Fuel Conservation III
Fuel Conservation IV
Evasive Maneuvering III
Evasive Maneuvering IV
Hull Upgrades IV
Thermic Armor Compensation I
Thermic Armor Compensation II
Thermic Armor Compensation III
Thermic Armor Compensation IV
Kinetic Armor Compensation I
Kinetic Armor Compensation II
Kinetic Armor Compensation III
Kinetic Armor Compensation IV
Explosive Armor Compensation I
Explosive Armor Compensation II
Explosive Armor Compensation III
Explosive Armor Compensation IV
EM Armor Compensation I
EM Armor Compensation II
EM Armor Compensation III
EM Armor Compensation IV
Hull Upgrades V
Electronics Upgrades III
Electronics Upgrades IV
Electronics Upgrades V
Energy Grid Upgrades III
Energy Grid Upgrades IV
Energy Grid Upgrades V
Weapon Upgrades IV
Weapon Upgrades V
Advanced Weapon Upgrades I
Advanced Weapon Upgrades II
Advanced Weapon Upgrades III
Advanced Weapon Upgrades IV
Sharpshooter IV
Rapid Firing III
***Remapping (not computed, use the attributes optimizer)***
Rapid Firing IV
Motion Prediction III
Motion Prediction IV
Controlled Bursts IV
Spaceship Command V
Navigation IV
Navigation V
Repair Systems IV
Repair Systems V
Mechanic IV
Mechanic V
Drones IV
Drones V
Drone Interfacing I
Drone Interfacing II
Drone Interfacing III
Drone Interfacing IV
Drone Interfacing V
Electronics V
Engineering IV
Engineering V
Gunnery IV
Trajectory Analysis I
Trajectory Analysis II
Trajectory Analysis III
Trajectory Analysis IV
Surgical Strike I
Surgical Strike II
Surgical Strike III
Surgical Strike IV
Gunnery V
Large Hybrid Turret I
Large Hybrid Turret II
Large Hybrid Turret III
Large Hybrid Turret IV
Large Hybrid Turret V
I will get the gunnery support skills to 5 aswell, but if i do it during this plan or afterwards i am still debating.
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Reldor Silverheart
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Posted - 2010.03.17 11:45:00 -
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I hate doubleposting, but the forum went down just as i was posting an edit, either way here is my thought that popped up after i posted taht.
As far as stats remapping, evemon suggests going perception and int, here i am wondering tho. Evemon goes heavy perception with int 2-3 points behind, to me it sounds it would be more beneficial to balance perception and int in the long run, or keep int only 2 points behind perception? Any thoughts?
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Xtover
Suicide Kings
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Posted - 2010.03.17 13:11:00 -
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Just put it in an acceptable order though, and you're missing some drone and other needed skills.
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Reldor Silverheart
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Posted - 2010.03.17 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Reldor Silverheart on 17/03/2010 13:14:47
Originally by: Xtover
Just put it in an acceptable order though, and you're missing some drone and other needed skills.
I know i am missing some drone skills, those will be done eventually, once i have gotten the primary gun skills done. What other skills am i missing appart from those?
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fivetide humidyear
Gallente
Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2010.03.17 13:17:00 -
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have a balanced clone (perc and intelligence high) for the first year or 2 till you have a good grounding in support skills and actual ship and gunnery skills. then remap to a perception heavy attribute set for a year and specialise in that, then reassess.
don't go chasing the gunnery skills only and ship command skills too soon. the core support skills in capacitor, armour, navigation, engineering etc. will make you a much better capsuleer than getting a battleship 5 or even t2 large turrets too soon.
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Reldor Silverheart
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Posted - 2010.03.17 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: fivetide humidyear
have a balanced clone (perc and intelligence high) for the first year or 2 till you have a good grounding in support skills and actual ship and gunnery skills. then remap to a perception heavy attribute set for a year and specialise in that, then reassess.
don't go chasing the gunnery skills only and ship command skills too soon. the core support skills in capacitor, armour, navigation, engineering etc. will make you a much better capsuleer than getting a battleship 5 or even t2 large turrets too soon.
Thanks alot for that advice, the skillplanner did skew up alot of the planning the latest, so now i am working out the manual plan. The fact that command skills are on top is wrong, i do not intend to get that first, after all. What is the point of flying a ship that can't be fit?.
Right now i am happy flying my Battlecruiser so i am going to put off the command skills and turret skills for now. Taking your advice i will get those skilsl up first hand and later on working on large turrets and battleship command skills. This also seems like a more viable approach in the long run.
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Mona X
Caldari
C0VEN
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Posted - 2010.03.17 14:17:00 -
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Please don't train Gallente for guns. Hybrids are horrible.
Train lasers instead.
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Reldor Silverheart
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Posted - 2010.03.17 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mona X
Please don't train Gallente for guns. Hybrids are horrible.
Train lasers instead.
Why not advice me to roll amarr while you're at it? I've read that they are horrible, i haven't found anything wrong with them yet. The only issue i have is with their falloff possibly and blasters low optimal range, but then again that is something i can live with.
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Mona X
Caldari
C0VEN
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Posted - 2010.03.17 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Reldor Silverheart
Originally by: Mona X
Please don't train Gallente for guns. Hybrids are horrible.
Train lasers instead.
Why not advice me to roll amarr while you're at it?
Because most Amarrs are ugly. Maybe not like Achuras, but still, I wouldn't recommend them to my worst enemy.
Actually I would but he's Achura, so... 
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