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Posted - 2010.03.15 23:53:00 -
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The observations of Merdaneth are quite accurate. Where there was peace there is now war. Where there was the ability to live without fear now there is terror. Where people could come together and earn a living now there is poverty and despair.
The attack on Providence was an attack on freedom. Regardless of your views on slavery and the Amarr Empire the fact remains for years and years Providence was the safe place to go in 0.0 space. That is now gone. The future of pirate gangs roaming unmolested, of terrorists shooting everyone on site, of murder and slaughter, those are the days we have now. Those days replaced peace and stability. Those days replaced true "freedom".
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Posted - 2010.03.16 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Roderigo Borgia ok i'm not really the person to explain this but i am in -A- so here how new providence will differ from old providence in my understanding of things
alliances unable to take space in the current 0.0 regions will be offered space in providence...
they will get the stations the upgrades etc etc etc, they can then do whatever they want - nbsi, nrds, the only restriction being placed on them is no sov war - so if they dont like there neigbours then its hard luck for them, they can try and drive them out but are not allowed to attack sov directly.
So you plan to dictate to these people what type of war they are allowed to engage in? How is this any different from the "Standings Enclosurement" claims against CVA? Both require obedience to a "master" of sorts (either CVA or -A-) so what is the difference?
I assume the Ushra'Khan and Star Fraction will oppose this ordered "Warfare Enclosurement" policy by -A- and will take action against it? Anything else would be quite hypocritical of course.
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Posted - 2010.03.16 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Roderigo Borgia
as for forcing rules on the people in providence - just one rule the rest is for them - the same offer was made to cva - so stop complaining - cva most certainly tells the holders where and what space they can have - and as i said that is my understanding of things only - some inter prvidence sov war might be tolerated i dont know but certainly no moves on -A- space (as defined by what we consider ours not what officially has sov, thought that should be spelled out since seems to be the ralling cry of cva and pets)
So you admit you will engage in "Warfare Enclosurement" and restrict the warfare of those residing "freely" in Providence? You should be careful in readily admitting to do something the Ushra'Khan and others have so vocally claimed to oppose.
Do we have an Ushra'Khan representative here who can comment on the "enclosurist" plans of -A- and their admitted policy of forcing a rule on others?
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Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.17 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck
What, because observing current regions held by the Southern Coallition isn't an adequate baseline to determine whether or not they are standings-enclosurist?
Or because it's an inconvenient truth that all that is happening here is one authoritarian standings enclosure regime is replacing another authoritarian standings enclosure regime and the Fractionites need a couple more weeks to figure out how to wordsmith that reality into something relevant to the Fractionite vision?
In the end we'll see "Warfare Enclosurist" behaviors by -A- and -UK- as they've already stated. Then we'll see how much credibility the Star Fraction really has toward their "cause" of freedom. If they are true to their cause they will take up arms against -A- and -UK- for setting down rules the citizens of Providence must follow. If they are complete lying hypocrites they will not.
I think the anarchists are already realizing they've just helped to replace one "tyrant" with another "tyrant". But in the way they did so, screaming about "enclosurists" and "morality" they've painted themselves into a corner. I'm guessing they'll be as hypocritical as ever and ignore their cause because it isn't convenient. It's a pattern with them.
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