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Call Me Allen
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.20 06:20:00 -
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Let's face it, unless they open up the backend of their site, we'll never know if they're legit or not. Here's the bottom line: cheating is totally doable for them; there's no reason not to do it; its eve, so its kind of the point to do it and get the new high score on the scam 'boards' and a gaming site story or two; they haven't voluntarily brought in a reliable third party to oversee their operations and guarantee legitimacy; they are totally, utterly, and completely unregulated.
Given everything we know about eve and human nature, you'd be a fool to think it wasn't a scam. It isn't the eve community who has to prove they aren't up to no good, Somer has to prove it. Otherwise, you're just taking their word for it. Ask the people who had Mittens third party their titans and supercaps about trust in eve. Hell, people won't trade cap ships without someone like Chribba, but somer is moving trillions of ISK through their apparatus and they're immune to greed and the immutable laws of eve? who the **** are you kidding? |
Marquess Molita
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Posted - 2012.08.20 15:08:00 -
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has Somer Blink ever actually had a comment on this? |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.08.20 15:29:00 -
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Marquess Molita wrote:has Somer Blink ever actually had a comment on this?
Look for posts by Andrev Nox FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Abditus Cularius
Clancularius Industries
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Posted - 2012.08.20 15:58:00 -
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Several times, in this thread, before people created alts just to necro it out of oblivion. |
Piddle Diddy
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:10:00 -
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Abditus Cularius wrote:Several times, in this thread, before people created alts just to necro it out of oblivion. there was exactly a 7 day gap in the thread. that's not necroing.
yet another somer apologist |
Abditus Cularius
Clancularius Industries
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:48:00 -
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Just sick of the spammy "OMG CONSPIRACY" alt threads.
7 days was the latest "Nobody cares about my thread, I better bump it again" The prior necro was: #235 Posted: 2012.07.12 12:09 #236 Posted: 2012.08.07 17:32 |
Othran
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:50:00 -
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I'd put money on this being the Evealopolous (or whatever) spammers starting the thread.
If you can't compete then spam local with trial alts and then smear a good amount of **** around. That seems to be their modus operandi.
Won't work |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:56:00 -
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Probability is hard. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Piddle Diddy
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.20 17:08:00 -
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Othran wrote:I'd put money on this being the Evealopolous (or whatever) spammers starting the thread. If you can't compete then spam local with trial alts and then smear a good amount of **** around. That seems to be their modus operandi. Won't work yes, it could only be "competitors" that no one has ever heard of and who aren't mentioned anywhere in the thread... until you mentioned them.
do you normally trust people in eve on their word alone? srsly. do you? |
Hiyora Akachi
Bling Ring Tax Evaders
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Posted - 2012.08.20 17:13:00 -
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I trust people in EvE.
Just not NPC corp forum alts. |
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2012.08.20 17:17:00 -
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It's a huge pile of fun, is what it is
Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM |
Hiyora Akachi
Bling Ring Tax Evaders
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Posted - 2012.08.20 17:28:00 -
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300t celebration started.
An I have no money or tokens atm.
EVERYONE PANIC! |
Deacon of Destruction
Temple of Destruction
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Posted - 2012.08.20 20:43:00 -
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Hiyora Akachi wrote:I trust people in EvE.
Just not NPC corp forum alts. I have a lottery I just started. You give me 100million isk to win a chance at 1 billion isk. Totally legit. |
Hiyora Akachi
Bling Ring Tax Evaders
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Posted - 2012.08.20 22:17:00 -
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I also don't trust creepy guys in shadowy hoods.
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Piddle Diddy
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.20 23:17:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Piddle Diddy wrote:they also send people into the bigger, more public corps like eve uni to advertise in channel. they camoflauge it by talking about somer rather than just outright advertising. i wouldn't have thought twice about it until i saw it in three different corps i was infiltrating. somehow these positive talkers have always managed to 'beat.' statistics make liars of them, so i dont' know who they think they're fooling. Ahem. Statistics will state that /some/ people will win. They're just the outliers. After all, people win Lotteries, and win millions at that. There are just a lot more losers. That is exactly why they stuck out to me. How is it so many people in several different corps were so successful, so often? The way they spoke about it always followd a similar pattern about beating the system and getting ahead. Anyway, just something I noticed. I could give a ****. |
Totally Trustworthy
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.21 14:12:00 -
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Has Somer ever had an audit done by someone like VV (MD auditor guy)? |
Jenn Ymor
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.21 14:22:00 -
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Thanks for bringing this thread back up, i would have missed the bonus blinks and other specials |
Potittious
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.21 15:33:00 -
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Jenn Ymor wrote:Thanks for bringing this thread back up, i would have missed the bonus blinks and other specials You wouldn't want to miss paying your Idiot Tax (what my dad calls all lotteries)
Totally Trustworthy wrote:Has Somer ever had an audit done by someone like VV (MD auditor guy)? Not to my knowledge |
Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.21 16:00:00 -
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Piddle Diddy wrote:Othran wrote:I'd put money on this being the Evealopolous (or whatever) spammers starting the thread. If you can't compete then spam local with trial alts and then smear a good amount of **** around. That seems to be their modus operandi. Won't work yes, it could only be "competitors" that no one has ever heard of and who aren't mentioned anywhere in the thread... until you mentioned them.
Nice try alty boy.
Everyone who's spent any time in trade/mission/newbie hubs has heard of them because Evealopolous (or whatever) spam local with trial alts more than the scammers.
Not seen somer.blink resorting to that - perhaps they do in places, I dunno. |
Piddle Diddy
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.21 16:23:00 -
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Othran wrote:Piddle Diddy wrote:Othran wrote:I'd put money on this being the Evealopolous (or whatever) spammers starting the thread. If you can't compete then spam local with trial alts and then smear a good amount of **** around. That seems to be their modus operandi. Won't work yes, it could only be "competitors" that no one has ever heard of and who aren't mentioned anywhere in the thread... until you mentioned them. Nice try alty boy. Everyone who's spent any time in trade/mission/newbie hubs has heard of them because Evealopolous (or whatever) spam local with trial alts more than the scammers. Not seen somer.blink resorting to that - perhaps they do in places, I dunno. I have spent a lot of time in trade hubs and have never heard of them. I'm aware that there are other lotteries, but most of eve has never heard of them. BIG is the only other one that is well known and its not some convoluted gambling plan, just a straight up lottery. I odn't think anyone would accuse Torn of underhandedness, but then, we have no real way of proving that any of the lotteries are legitimate. My point was simply that just because people are challenging their legitimacy doesn't mean its a competitor.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.21 16:37:00 -
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Piddle Diddy wrote:[My point was simply that just because people are challenging their legitimacy doesn't mean its a competitor.
These threads appear every 2-3 months and tend to coincide with perceived times when people will be returning to game (summer break over for kids/January/Easter/etc). Then there's a burst in trial chars spamming local with Evealopolous "offers". Its not a coincidence.
Somer.blink is still here. I've never used them.
BIG are cool, I remember them when they started. I have bet with them a few times on Eve tourneys and won. |
Piddle Diddy
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.21 20:44:00 -
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Othran wrote:Piddle Diddy wrote:[My point was simply that just because people are challenging their legitimacy doesn't mean its a competitor.
These threads appear every 2-3 months and tend to coincide with perceived times when people will be returning to game (summer break over for kids/January/Easter/etc). Then there's a burst in trial chars spamming local with Evealopolous "offers". Its not a coincidence. Somer.blink is still here. I've never used them. BIG are cool, I remember them when they started. I have bet with them a few times on Eve tourneys and won. Please show me these threads and the schedule on wihch they appear. Links to the first pages and dates, please. |
Kel Shek
Blue Sun Labs
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Posted - 2012.08.21 21:01:00 -
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Piddle Diddy wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Piddle Diddy wrote:they also send people into the bigger, more public corps like eve uni to advertise in channel. they camoflauge it by talking about somer rather than just outright advertising. i wouldn't have thought twice about it until i saw it in three different corps i was infiltrating. somehow these positive talkers have always managed to 'beat.' statistics make liars of them, so i dont' know who they think they're fooling. Ahem. Statistics will state that /some/ people will win. They're just the outliers. After all, people win Lotteries, and win millions at that. There are just a lot more losers. That is exactly why they stuck out to me. How is it so many people in several different corps were so successful, so often? The way they spoke about it always followd a similar pattern about beating the system and getting ahead. Anyway, just something I noticed. I could give a ****.
because the odds of winning on blink are about a zillion times better than winning the powerball or other real lotteries, and its set up in small bursts, not one big lump.
Potittious wrote:Jenn Ymor wrote:Thanks for bringing this thread back up, i would have missed the bonus blinks and other specials You wouldn't want to miss paying your Idiot Tax (what my dad calls all lotteries) [ Idiot tax definitly works when theres no real chance of winning. but well, with blink, this celebration I deposited 90m to start, and won a plex already. so setting aside everything I've won before the 300t event, even after losing the 50m I think it was I deposited after that, I'm at about triple my money? seems to me what I have already won, means that I can put something like 300m and still break even, even if I win nothing else.
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Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.22 05:08:00 -
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Quote:because the odds of winning on blink are about a zillion times better than winning the powerball or other real lotteries, and its set up in small bursts, not one big lump.
That win ratio is public information, and a lot less people complain than actually lose ISK.
I do have respect for the people that had the integrity to say "I lost money on it but such is the nature of the beast".
Especially in a game with SO MANY SORE LOSERS AND WHINERS. You would think they would be bitching up a storm. |
Palander
FinFleet Raiden.
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Posted - 2012.08.22 11:47:00 -
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I think it might be a scam, I have lost about 42b to that site, from corp wallet of course. I usually buy all the tickets so i get 100% change to win that price. |
Piddle Diddy
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.22 14:35:00 -
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Kel Shek wrote:Idiot tax definitly works when theres no real chance of winning. but well, with blink, this celebration I deposited 90m to start, and won a plex already. so setting aside everything I've won before the 300t event, even after losing the 50m I think it was I deposited after that, I'm at about triple my money? seems to me what I have already won, means that I can put something like 300m and still break even, even if I win nothing else.
Look, its another of those mysterious winners who managed to, gasp, triple their money, even though its statistically incredibly unlikely. Just like the other shills who advertise for Somer. |
Piddle Diddy
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.22 14:38:00 -
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Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:That win ratio is public information, and a lot less people complain than actually lose ISK Public information? Where does this information come from, pray tell? The mysterious backend webserver that no one can see or audit. that's where. Are you really saying that you trust them based on information that can't be verified? |
TheGhostThatNeverLies
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.23 04:20:00 -
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I am the Ghost That Never Lies.
SB is totally not a scam. |
Orzo Torasson
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.08.23 04:40:00 -
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I just lost another billion on blink. It must be a scam. I SHOULD WIN WHEN I GAMBLE GODDAMNIT |
Gallladorn
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Posted - 2012.08.23 08:41:00 -
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it's legit and fun... and what makes people lose is GREED, not fake players or anything else... |
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