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Hobonator912
Gallente Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2010.03.19 01:40:00 -
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Yes, no, maybe so? What are some privileges, if any, of joining? And what do they do in schools? |
JordanParey
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.03.19 02:58:00 -
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Hi.
Army ROTC in college here.
There aren't really any benefits to doing high school level ROTC. It doesn't do anything for you except get you a higher rank in college level ROTC (which many cadets think is unfair, since you don't really learn anything in JROTC in four years that you won't learn your first year of college ROTC), it *might* net you a scholarship.
Other than that, a lot of JROTC programs aren't great because they are simply repositories for kids who can't do anything else in high school. |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.03.19 03:04:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 19/03/2010 03:05:43 If you are interested in joining the military then by all means take the four year course as you will get a massive head start over a raw recruit with at least two pay grades on completion of basic training if your school commander signs off on it. JROTC is basically an institutionalized recruitment tool used to cherry pick promiseing students into the college officer corps which then groom you for true service. They teach military history and start the process of indoctrination with basic squad drills and other soldiery things to see if you have the temperment to learn the stuff they want in a recruit. No worries about restrictive rules and regulations though until you sign on to the the real deal during your senior year when they will moast definitetly try to steer you into doing if you are decent material. Do well enough and you might even get an invite to OCS before you even go through official basic which is were any serious military career starts. If however you are not interested in a military career then it would be a wasted class better used on something you want to do after graduation. |
Flap jak
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.03.19 06:42:00 -
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I was in air force JROTC in high school for three years. it was a lot of fun in my high school. I learned a lot about world aerospace history and science. also, PT twice a week was awesome. Wearing blues around the high school once a week wasn't too bad. never got made fun of or anything negative.
we also raised enough money to go to Cape Canaveral and watched the space shuttle get pulled out of its hanger. it was an awesome exp!
then again i heard of some crappy JROTCs in some high schools. |
HankMurphy
Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.03.19 07:24:00 -
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JROTC is a good thing to try out if your interested. overall i really don't like the rotc program if your thinking long term.
if i had it to do over, i'd have done what my friend did. enlist guard/reserve and go split op (summer of junior year you do basic, summer of senior ait). if it turns out you like the military, enlist in an academy (there are many good ones much cheaper than state schools) and get a sweet commission when you graduate college
^^this way you make a butt load of money and it's a ton of fun. plus, many officers that have had enlisted experience just seem to turn out better
probably more info than you wanted but whatever |
Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2010.03.19 08:25:00 -
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OK ...
Army JROTC 1966-1969.
1) The primary reason for going into JROTC is that you want to participate in JROTC. Do the thing for it's own sake - not because you think it will get you some benefit down the line. If you like military stuff - the way I did - then you will enjoy the experience. That way - regardless of what you do later - you won't have wasted your time. Be there because you want to be there - that is the reason for doing it.
2) What you may learn: We went on maneuvers for a week each year over spring break. Got to fire military weapons. Learned how to field strip them and clean them. Learned how to care for our uniforms, polishing brass and shining shoes, clipping Irish Penants (loose strings). We learned how to march and we learned how to drill others in marching. We took classes in field hygiene, military history, tactics, weapons, first aide, all kinds of things that apply to being a soldier.
3) We also learned how to take orders and how to give them. I graduated as a Cadet Major. As a High School kid - I was put in command of several dozen other people and learned how to lead them by doing so. I learned how to take care of the people under my command - by doing so.
4) When I enlisted in the Marines - I already knew a lot of what the Marines were trying to teach us. I was ready for junior leadership positions in training because I'd already done it. What I got out of the Marines that I did not get out of JROTC - was a firm understanding of the seriousness of what I was doing. JROTC is a lot like a game, playing soldier for a few hours a day - being in the real military - is the real thing. Nothing really bad was going to happen to anyone in JROTC but if you fouled up in the real military - really bad things could happen. The other things I got out of the Marines that I couldn't be given in JROTC was a much, much, stronger sense of discipline and a much higher standard of physical fitness. Of course, the training I received in the Marines, while in some cases duplicating things I'd done in JROTC - was done on a much more serious basis. In JROTC we fired M-1's and M-14's a few times. In the Marines - we went to the rifle range for three solid weeks. I put more rounds down range in the Marines in two hours than I did in 3 years of JROTC. We also were trained on a much wider variety of weapons. The thing is - when you really learn how to do something - is when you do it for real, all day long - every day for years.
5) Do you NEED to join JROTC in order to do well later on in the military? Of course not. Most of the people who go into the military were not previously in JROTC and they do fine. What it will give YOU is some experience you wouldn't have had other wise. While other people are learning to march - you will already know how. While other people are getting their first experiences in taking orders and giving them - you will already have done that. Someone who has been in the military for 15 years - knows more than someone who has been in the military for 5. They have more experience. By joining JROTC you will get a little more military experience from doing so than someone who hasn't.
6) As to what you will get out of it in the way of rank or promotion ... that is going to depend on what is going on with you and the military if you go any farther. Things change. I could have gotten E-2 out of Boot Camp automatically if I'd gone into the Army - and I could have got that written into my contract when I enlisted in the Marines by saying something like "Oh ... if I go in the Army they'll give me E-2 out of boot camp ... can you do that?" and of course the recruiter would have said "sure" and I'd have gotten E-2 about a month sooner than I did get it. *shrug* I didn't bother and never cared later. In effect - I'd have gotten another 30 dollars or so. I forget what the difference in pay was but we didn't get paid squat back then. Nothing like today's military.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2010.03.19 13:07:00 -
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What is this american love of cryptic shorthand? EWTHIIOGTFO! |
Astenion
Blame The Bunny Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.03.19 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: Astenion on 19/03/2010 17:21:33
Originally by: Wendat Huron What is this american love of cryptic shorthand? EWTHIIOGTFO!
It's not cryptic shorthand, it's military jargon that is used the world over in all militaries, and it differs with each. Anyone not familiar with military language will feel left out of the conversation, but that's just how it is. Not only that, they differ with each branch of the military. An "MOS" doesn't exist in the Air Force; it's called an "AFSC". |
Astenion
Blame The Bunny Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.03.19 17:30:00 -
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If you're going to enlist in the military, it can help you get to E-2 and E-3 much faster, without having to sign on for more years...at least in the AF it was like that. Other than that, former JROTC members in my boot camp were just douchebags who thought they knew more because they dressed up in a uniform every Friday before the pep rally. And don't even get me started on the Civil Air Patrol dorks.
ROTC is the only thing that really means anything. When you come out of ROTC after you graduate from whatever university you go to, you'll be an officer...a 2nd Lieutenant. A REAL officer in the United States military. There are other ways of going officer, however. You can choose OTS or go to an Academy, but Academy grads tend to be douchebags as well...not all, but a lot of them. So, you have three choices:
1. Join ROTC during your tenure at university and after become an officer
2. Finish university first then go to OTS, or Officer Training School (OCS for the Navy, I believe...Officer Candidacy School I think)
3. Go to an Academy all four years of college and live in basic training for four years (yuck)
You'll have a ring afterwards and some pretend bragging rights and you'll be full of yourself, yet most people will think you're a ****.
That's about it. JROTC is like boy scouts for people who like military stuff. It doesn't really matter. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.03.19 18:30:00 -
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hey guys hawk here.
I did navy JROTC for my high school years
yeah you heard me GO NAVY.
You get what ever you want out of it, military history, friends what ever.
I learned a lot about leadership and organization skills from 4 years of ROTC. I was captain of the rifle team, 2 years as head of orienteering team. and XO for an entire company and 2nd in command of supply.
All of which were a lot of work but I learned so much.
Yes they will try to get you to join the military but that decision is up to you. But if you like the military they can also help you get huge scholorships to pay for school and get you into an officer program.
The main thing though is they will emphasize, leadership, team work, discipline and good physical fitness. I was one of the best in my batallion as a result i got to go on special trips, leadership conferences huge regional meets. I think though the trips to bases were the most fun, the one i remember best was going to Camp Coronado in san diego. 1 week in a barracks, but good food, went aboard several ships, 1 sub and go to play around in the carrier landing flight simulator. I crashed into the carrier but at least it wasn't the water like everyone else.
ok no tl;dr. |
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Jago Kain
Amarr Ramm's RDI Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.03.19 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jago Kain Unconvincing post from 12 yr old wannabe pretending to be in the Marines/SAS/SBS/Mossad/CSA or other well known elite force with a taste for guns and a straightforward approach to diplomacy.
Includes "controversial" argument about the supposed benefits of an uncommon weapons calibre, huge lies about physical endurance, a badly thought out right wing political rant concerning any three of the current "favourite" conflicts world-wide and unsympathetic views on alternative lifestyles and/or other nations (delete as applicable).
Ooops. Wrong thread. My bad.
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