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Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
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Posted - 2012.07.03 23:05:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:CCP Paradox wrote:wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff Bootleg Jack wrote:Fail, a customer request is still a customer request. Emrys Ap'Morgravaine wrote:Care for a jelly baby? knobber Jobbler wrote:Who'd have thought it! Troll ;) It's still a television series reference - and one which made me laugh even though I did not know it before. @Bootleg Jack: It was not a polite customer request. It was a developer bash. 'How hard can it be' etc. If he had phrased it differently, he might have gotten a different response.
FTFY Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
Holi
Duct Ales
0
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Posted - 2012.07.03 23:09:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:From a framework / technical perspective it would be no problem at all. We have simply made an explicit decision to only display EVE Time. One Universe // One War // One Time // to rule them all.
(Your OS displays the local time.) Is the time displayed by the client the actual server clock or the client's local clock converted to server's timezone? |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
743
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Posted - 2012.07.03 23:12:00 -
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Holi wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:From a framework / technical perspective it would be no problem at all. We have simply made an explicit decision to only display EVE Time. One Universe // One War // One Time // to rule them all.
(Your OS displays the local time.) Is the time displayed by the client the actual server clock or the client's local clock converted to server's timezone? It's the TQ clock with an approx. -¦1 second accuracy (not guaranteed). Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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Holi
Duct Ales
0
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Posted - 2012.07.03 23:21:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Holi wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:From a framework / technical perspective it would be no problem at all. We have simply made an explicit decision to only display EVE Time. One Universe // One War // One Time // to rule them all.
(Your OS displays the local time.) Is the time displayed by the client the actual server clock or the client's local clock converted to server's timezone? It's the TQ clock with an approx. -¦1 second accuracy (not guaranteed). Good to know, cheers for the info! |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
482
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Posted - 2012.07.03 23:45:00 -
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gobbybobby wrote:trouble with GMT is it don't change for daylight savings like other countrys. Thats my only Beef with it. As a UK player its correct 6 months of the year...
At least we all use the same time zone.
Not only is the US split into multiple time zones, each state has the option of using daylight savings time or not.
And not every country does daylight saving time. Iceland, for example, doesn't. Probably something to do with the fact the sun rises at 03:10 and sets at 23:52 this time of year. Without really getting dark in between.
Oh, +1 for keeping Eve on UTC/GMT (if you're not a scientist, they're the same) FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Gerald Taric
75
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Posted - 2012.07.03 23:47:00 -
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5 pages of postings just for a simple +2 arithmetic operation (at last for me), which the OP refuses to do .... impressive. |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
746
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Posted - 2012.07.04 00:05:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:gobbybobby wrote:trouble with GMT is it don't change for daylight savings like other countrys. Thats my only Beef with it. As a UK player its correct 6 months of the year... At least we all use the same time zone. Not only is the US split into multiple time zones, each state has the option of using daylight savings time or not. And not every country does daylight saving time. Iceland, for example, doesn't. Probably something to do with the fact the sun rises at 03:10 and sets at 23:52 this time of year. Without really getting dark in between. And not China, India, Russia; in fact the majority doesn't use summer time. Only the blue countries here http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/DaylightSaving-World-Subdivisions.png use summer time. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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Blade N'Mare
Hard Rock University En Garde
11
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Posted - 2012.07.04 00:14:00 -
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+1 for keeping eve time. Other wise I am likely to get an overblown sense of self importance for being so far ahead of everyone else. :) "Light a candle for the Sinners.-á Set the World on Fire." |
Toshiroma McDiesel
Lupus Draconis Dragehund
31
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Posted - 2012.07.04 00:14:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff
+1 internets for you, my good sir! The Valdspar is Holy, it must be allowed to float free. Free of lesser rocks that try to clutter it's Holy Path though the Heavens. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
786
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Posted - 2012.07.04 00:26:00 -
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can't you just write a letter to your favourite polititian and ask him if he could change your time to eve time? a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
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Korsiri
Mousetrap Building Inc.
49
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Posted - 2012.07.04 00:29:00 -
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Good god.
Eve = Windowed mode. OS = set to local time, boom badda boom! I can see both times oooooooh. Or, even better, set an additional clock in Win7 to your friend's aussie time like I do.
problem solved.
Also, +rep for Dr Who reference, I knew Eve devs were coolest ever but tis awesome to have more proof ^_^
Oh and bittervet bit -
In my day, we hadda read a sundial to bloody know the time... or keep some chickens happy...
kids these days... |
Jiska Ensa
Unour Heavy Industries
74
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Posted - 2012.07.04 02:03:00 -
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/me wants to move to Saskatchewan...
But in all seriousness, why wouldn't you want the client to display "eve time?" what if you're in an alliance with people all over the world. You'd end up planning things at GMT anyway, and no one would be able to look at the clock and see "oh that's 5 hours from now"
Or in my special case, it's usually "oh, that was an hour ago. Whoops" |
Hoarr
RPS holdings
31
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Posted - 2012.07.04 02:11:00 -
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4-AcO-DMT wrote:srsly, how hard can it be ?
f'in eve-uni trying to sh*t up the game for the rest of us. |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.07.04 02:26:00 -
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this is why we can't have nice things |
Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
27
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Posted - 2012.07.04 02:47:00 -
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Problem with making EVE show local time is that it becomes the issue for the CEO to convert times for others. Everybody knows their reference to GMT. I live in New Jersey, as such during summer I am GMT -4 I know an Op at 00:00 server is 8pm local.
Trust me this is superior than a CEO of FC in Los Angeles saying the fifth fleet deploys at 8pm and then wondering why half his fleet is not online and he has a pile of emails stating they had been on for ninety minutes waiting for him because half are in New York.
all problems in my example are fixed by saying it starts at 03:00 server. for before midnight times you subtract or ad your difference from GMT and if you use am/pm like we do in the US you then subtract 12 from any time that 13:00 or later. |
Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
135
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Posted - 2012.07.04 03:13:00 -
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I honestly don't see why having local time in EVE would matter.
Everyone seeing EVE time means that when someone says 7pm, it's always 19:00 EVE time. When someone says 2am, it's always 02:00 EVE time. When someone says 15:00, its always 15:00 EVE time.
Having local time in the EVE client: "Dude, i thought the tower would come out of reinforced at 6 am?" "Yeah, that was 4 hours ago dumbass" "But it's 10 am now!"
"Hey, why is downtime at 9pm? The popup is saying it's at noon, why is it saying the servers will go down in an hour!!??"
You have numerous other clocks in your house that show you the local time. You will learn very quickly how to convert EVE time to local time. Showing local time only accomplishes making international cooperation more difficult - I don't know many corps where all members are in the same timezone.
Why exactly would it be better to show local time in the client? I haven't heard any arguments for that yet. |
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
246
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Posted - 2012.07.04 05:43:00 -
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Gerald Taric wrote:5 pages of postings just for a simple +2 arithmetic operation (at last for me), which the OP refuses to do .... impressive. How can someone not be able to do -¦ simple whole number maths in their head and yet make change for a pound/dollar/euro/etc?
Please support: export of settings in editable format
Your stuff goes here. |
Dirk Culliford
Zero G Universal Enterprises
9
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Posted - 2012.07.04 06:03:00 -
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Obvious solution - move to the UK. That should work!
On the other hand, if you aren't capable of arithmetic we might not want you... |
Corvus Borealis
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.07.04 06:11:00 -
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4-AcO-DMT wrote:srsly, how hard can it be ? There is only one time, EVE TIME! |
Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
123
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Posted - 2012.07.04 08:06:00 -
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Dirk Culliford wrote:Obvious solution - move to the UK. That should work!
On the other hand, if you aren't capable of arithmetic we might not want you... Wait, you're from UK? And you don't know about the daylight saving difference? BST is not UTC. So half of the year also the UK is 1 hour off.
Obvious solution - move to Iceland. |
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Chanina
ASGARD HEAVY INDUSTRIES Viking Empire
18
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Posted - 2012.07.04 09:00:00 -
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Please please, never ever change eve time to local time!
It is already hard enough to get different time zones sorted out. Call a meeting and say eve time and everyone should be able to figure out which time it is for him or her.
Maybe we could cut all countries in small stripes and pin them in the same timezone... might get somewhat crowded if everyone is playing at the same time. Daylight saving? What is that. Yes we have something like MEST but the same time zone from spain to poland ... thats about 3 time zones.
TL;DR: srsly, it would be very hard for every other eve player except you sir. |
Jim Bond
Suicide Squad Industries
3
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Posted - 2012.07.04 09:23:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Holi wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:From a framework / technical perspective it would be no problem at all. We have simply made an explicit decision to only display EVE Time. One Universe // One War // One Time // to rule them all.
(Your OS displays the local time.) Is the time displayed by the client the actual server clock or the client's local clock converted to server's timezone? It's the TQ clock with an approx. -¦1 second accuracy (not guaranteed).
Did you hold the second hand on the 2012.06.30 for 6 seconds, like the other scientist in the Sol system, to enable the timekeepers of Sol to add a "leap second" to compensate for the wibbly-wobbly movements of the earth?
"The ever-so-brief halting of the second hand will compensate for a creeping divergence from solar time, meaning the period required for Earth to complete a day."
Do the planets in Eden have their own time zones as well? or I guess its a standard universe time. I guess, if your living on Jita planet 1, A day ie 1 revolution of the planet may only be 20 hours, but Jita planet 2 might be 36 hours....Might make trade and making meetings hard work.
As Dust is going to take place on planets, are the planets going to have night/day and are they going to have different length days? |
Iria Ahrens
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2012.07.04 09:26:00 -
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No matter what decision the DEVs make, they can't please everyone.
For myself, I hate Daylight savings time. Other countries get by just fine with summer/winter hours. Why do we have to fisk with the clocks when having different business hours would work just as well. Especially if the Government worked at a given set of hours, many other businesses would adjust accordingly. "I was about to say GÇ£HereGÇÖs a RubikGÇÖs cube, go f%$^ yourself,GÇ¥ because thatGÇÖs what we do with EVE Online." EVE Lead Game Designer Kristoffer Touborg for PC Gamer |
Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
39
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Posted - 2012.07.04 09:43:00 -
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The biggest best reason to use GMT is for the preplanning of military ops across many different timezones. When the players in your corp are from all over the world, you need one time to reference and that is EVE time. And if it changed to daylight savings time then it would bump one hour which again would be bad. Why because when does it shift one hour? At 2:00 AM right? But whoose 2:00 AM? It could not change at everybodys 2:00 AM becaue then it would be a cascading time and EVE time would be different and confusing as the time change took effect one time zone after another.
So GMT never changing time is always the best for ops planning purpose. Someone can say X happens at this date and time and it happens at that time everywhere in the entire world. At the same moment in time. Nobody has to try to figure out time shifts just look at the eve clock. You just have to be able to figure out when that time happens in your local time so you can log on to be part of the action. |
VanDam
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.07.04 10:00:00 -
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Unless you live in a windowless box while play Eve, rarely sleep and never go outside I fail to see how it could be confusing.
Person A: Oh I thought it was 4 in the afternoon not 11 in the evening!!!!!! Person B: Erm...look outside the window? |
Sugar Kyle
The humbleless Crew Capital Punishment.
57
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Posted - 2012.07.04 10:39:00 -
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The bulk of my corp functions in USA PST and Kiwi time. I'm USA EST and we have a handful of Euros. The game having a solid state is very orginizationaly friendly.
OP, this has been beaten into the thread with a gleeefullness that can only happen when the horse is dead but... Have you done anything in game with another player yet? |
TharOkha
0asis Group
10
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Posted - 2012.07.04 10:54:00 -
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http://www.livestrong.com/article/213018-how-to-teach-kids-to-add-subtract/ GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
4-AcO-DMT
EVE University Ivy League
10
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Posted - 2012.07.04 11:46:00 -
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Hoarr wrote:
f'in eve-uni trying to sh*t up the game for the rest of us.
i dont speak on behalf of eve-uni so you might want to shut the **** up.
i see this thread goes nowhere and its just full of flaming and trolling. lock it. |
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
713
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Posted - 2012.07.04 12:22:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff
I think we can all agree this makes more sense then the OP. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Tobey Darkness
GermanyynamreG
2
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Posted - 2012.07.04 13:14:00 -
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I have four clocks on my phone. One shows the time for Berlin, one for Tokio, one for San Francisco and one for Reykjavik ^^ |
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