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Hurtful Words	Posted - 2010.03.23 17:14:00 - [1] Freshly back from 10 months in 0.0 pvp alliance. My wallet is light and I need to buff it massively. With fairly neutral standings towards most of the factions of new eden. Can anyone recommend which brand of Missions to choose if I just want to grind out isk for a month or two? I have never run a mission in my eve career, so I'm starting from lvl 1 scratch and working up. I'm mostly just curious if one path is better than others for someone who cares only about the isk. any LP or loot would be converted to isk. I'm a pure gallente pilot, if that helps. Thanks! (I'm reading up all of the mission guides atm, so I hope I don't come across as being too inept, and if I do, apologies)
Damien Du'Pont	Posted - 2010.03.23 17:45:00 - [2] Originally by: Hurtful Words Freshly back from 10 months in 0.0 pvp alliance. My wallet is light and I need to buff it massively. With fairly neutral standings towards most of the factions of new eden. Can anyone recommend which brand of Missions to choose if I just want to grind out isk for a month or two? I have never run a mission in my eve career, so I'm starting from lvl 1 scratch and working up. I'm mostly just curious if one path is better than others for someone who cares only about the isk. any LP or loot would be converted to isk. I'm a pure gallente pilot, if that helps. Thanks! (I'm reading up all of the mission guides atm, so I hope I don't come across as being too inept, and if I do, apologies) If you want to max your isk rate, then finding the best LP store where you can get the most isk for your LPs is ideal. That's up to you to find out yourself. Next consideration is where the L4 agents in hi-sec are with any corp your are looking to do missions with. So look for the highest quality L4 agents in hi-sec. Preferably, the lower the security status, the more LP you get. And try to avoid systems where there are tons of activity. Take dodixie, for example. While there is a L4 agent there, there are a lot of people there who'd like to ruin your day by ninja salvaging/looting your wrecks and hope you'd get ****ed off enough to shoot at them and get CONCORD to beat you up.
Gavin DeVries	Posted - 2010.03.23 17:53:00 - [3] Before you ever start running missions, spend a few days training the skills Connections, Social, and Negotiation to level 4. Once you figure out which corporation you want to run for, you might think about grabbing a couple of XXX Connections skill books, though with a tight wallet 35 million each might mean you want to put them off for a while. Reasoning - mission running involves climbing a ladder of standing. You need minimum standings in order to be able to use an agent. Connections gives you an increase to a positive standing, thus helping you bypass part of that ladder. Social increases the amount of standing you gain for a successful mission, speeding up the climb. Negotiation increases mission rewards, thus increasing both the money and the climb speed. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
Tiska Drak Gallente Dreddit	Posted - 2010.03.24 04:18:00 - [4] If you have any missioning friends, ask them if you can fleet for awhile. Splitting the standings gains from a L4 is going to get you farther faster than grinding L1s.
triafrenum	Posted - 2010.03.24 04:33:00 - [5] Avoid missioning for Caldari their lp is worth the least overall. I would also suggest staying away from the combat corps their lp is worth less then the R&D type corps (it will be hard finding a good combat agent for those corps however.
Deus Ex'Machina The-Machine	Posted - 2010.03.24 05:18:00 - [6] Originally by: triafrenum Avoid missioning for Caldari their lp is worth the least overall. I would also suggest staying away from the combat corps their lp is worth less then the R&D type corps (it will be hard finding a good combat agent for those corps however. ishukone has a nice lvl 4 q 18 ( if i remember ) in 0.6 sec and "nice" lp options, but i'm convinced doing missions for amarr corps is better due to salvage & loot ( from blood/sansha ) being worth 5 times more then gurista loot & salvage - Arkanon: EXPLAIN YOURSELF, EVILDOER! Sharkbait: Dude.
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2010.03.24 06:44:00 - [7] Where to begin? Don't! Your question is not about "running missions" it's about "making ISK". For that, see the Making ISK guide in the EVElopedia. Remember to leave comments in the "Discussion" page if you have ideas for improvement. [Aussie players: join channels ANZAC or AUSSIES]
My Postman	Posted - 2010.03.24 10:09:00 - [8] Beeing gallente you might have recent drone skills so your path through will be like: L1: Any frig, preferable this one (can¦t remember the name) with 3 light drones, catalyst. L2: Vexor, Thorax, Ishkur. L3: Myrm, Dominix, Ishtar. L4: Domi, Ishtar. Have in mind to have more than one ship ready, as some missions have gate restrictions and won¦t let "overpowered" ship through. Eve-Survival is mission runners best friend, check mission BEFORE accepting it. Welcome to mission running.
Tiska Drak Gallente Dreddit	Posted - 2010.03.24 14:05:00 - [9] Originally by: My Postman L1: Any frig, preferable this one (can¦t remember the name) with 3 light drones, catalyst. Imicus is the frig you're thinking of; with three T2 lights, it owns L1s.
Dacryphile	Posted - 2010.03.24 15:18:00 - [10] You want to look ahead when you start missions. Lots of people simply look for the NPC corp they currently have good standings toward (and hence access to higher lvl/quality agents) and mission for that corp. It isn't till way later that they realize that the best L4 agent that NPC corp has sucks, and they have to start from scratch. So here is what you want to do. Open upeve-agents.com and a good map. Search eve-agents for the highest quality L4 agent in the lowest security high sec system with no low sec neighbors. Sound confusing? Let me explain. LP makes up for a good portion of your mission running income. The higher the quality of the agent, the more LP they will give. Also, the lower the security system of the agent, the higher the LP he will give. A L4Q18 agent in a 0.5 system will be about the best you can get. You also don't want to be sent into low sec to do your mission. So when you have found a prospective agent using eve-agents, open up the map and search for the system to make sure it doesn't have any low sec neighbors. Another nice thing to have is multiple agents in the same station or system. Often you will get missions you want to decline for one reason or another, missions against the 4 empire factions for instance. If you decline one mission, a 4 hour timer starts during which time you will take a standing loss if you decline another. So if you do encounter another mission you want to decline during that time, having multiple agents to work with means you aren't SOL. Originally by: Doc Robertson ...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
Ernesto DaSilva	Posted - 2010.03.24 22:31:00 - [11] Originally by: Dacryphile So when you have found a prospective agent using eve-agents, open up the map and search for the system to make sure it doesn't have any low sec neighbors. While this is true in theory I know there's at least one L4Q18 in a 0.5 who tried to send me into the neighbouring lowsec 2 times out of [stopped counting]. In other words: Don't turn down those agents too early.
My Postman	Posted - 2010.03.25 10:36:00 - [12] Originally by: Dacryphile You want to look ahead when you start missions. Lots of people simply look for the NPC corp they currently have good standings toward (and hence access to higher lvl/quality agents) and mission for that corp. It isn't till way later that they realize that the best L4 agent that NPC corp has sucks, and they have to start from scratch. So here is what you want to do. Open upeve-agents.com and a good map. Search eve-agents for the highest quality L4 agent in the lowest security high sec system with no low sec neighbors. Sound confusing? Let me explain. LP makes up for a good portion of your mission running income. The higher the quality of the agent, the more LP they will give. Also, the lower the security system of the agent, the higher the LP he will give. A L4Q18 agent in a 0.5 system will be about the best you can get. You also don't want to be sent into low sec to do your mission. So when you have found a prospective agent using eve-agents, open up the map and search for the system to make sure it doesn't have any low sec neighbors. Another nice thing to have is multiple agents in the same station or system. Often you will get missions you want to decline for one reason or another, missions against the 4 empire factions for instance. If you decline one mission, a 4 hour timer starts during which time you will take a standing loss if you decline another. So if you do encounter another mission you want to decline during that time, having multiple agents to work with means you aren't SOL. Find it some kind of funny that you give really GOOD advices here but call mission runners who got ninjad and do something about "butthurt" I answered this btw. Anyway good advice, you only forgot to tell the op DON¦T MISSION IN DODIXIE. So i fixed that for you.
Nostromium	Posted - 2010.03.25 12:51:00 - [13] I had a mate come from PvP to missioning because his corp broke up. He said he found the contant action a relief to all the crawling about he did in lowsec.
Dacryphile	Posted - 2010.03.25 16:55:00 - [14] Originally by: My Postman Find it some kind of funny that you give really GOOD advices here but call mission runners who got ninjad and do something about "butthurt" I answered this btw. Anyway good advice, you only forgot to tell the op DON¦T MISSION IN DODIXIE. So i fixed that for you. That is because I've played both sides. Ninjaing can be fun as long as you get the other person to react in some way, including shooting the wrecks. The MRs who don't react at all are the most boring to a ninja, which is why I say the best response to a ninja is no response. So you lose the salvage for one mission. Big **ing deal. Its a small fraction of a days income and reacting in any way is what drives most ninjas. I also run lots of mission to pay for pvp (which I'm not very good at tbh). So I know the deal with mission running as well. But yeah, missioning in a hub can be a real pain in the ass. It is far better to find an slightly lesser quality agent off the beaten path. Originally by:** Doc Robertson ...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
Cyber Wulf	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:55:00 - [15] Originally by: triafrenum Avoid missioning for Caldari their lp is worth the least overall. I would also suggest staying away from the combat corps their lp is worth less then the R&D type corps (it will be hard finding a good combat agent for those corps however. Is there a general consensus on which corp is BEST for isk? I'm currently using a low level 2 agent for Caldari Navy, so starting over is no real loss for me at this point. It would be very helpful if someone could explain to me how to accurately determine who has better lp and why. If a thread already exits, please provide a link.
scoutsacoutanus	Posted - 2010.03.25 20:17:00 - [16] Easiest way without having to do math is look up some mission nerd like Irdia Freelancer, Sturmwolfe, etc and look on their agent standings tab to find a nice agent with high lp:isk conversion.
RavenPaine	Posted - 2010.03.25 20:38:00 - [17] Location is as important as the LP . If the best agent is 40 jumps from nowhere then whats the point? IMO Caldari Navy is a great choice for locations and such. Guristas dont drop great loot , but they die easy and the missions go faster. Faster = more LP and faster standings increase , etc.
Cyber Wulf	Posted - 2010.03.30 20:22:00 - [18] Originally by: triafrenum Avoid missioning for Caldari their lp is worth the least overall. I would also suggest staying away from the combat corps their lp is worth less then the R&D type corps (it will be hard finding a good combat agent for those corps however. Is this accurate? What is this information based on? Originally by: scoutsacoutanus Easiest way without having to do math is look up some mission nerd like Irdia Freelancer, Sturmwolfe, etc and look on their agent standings tab to find a nice agent with high lp:isk conversion. If all else fails, I have no problem using this method. I would still like to know how to find out this information for myself. Again, any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Kassa Daito Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.30 21:57:00 - [19] Originally by: Cyber Wulf Originally by: triafrenum Avoid missioning for Caldari their lp is worth the least overall. I would also suggest staying away from the combat corps their lp is worth less then the R&D type corps (it will be hard finding a good combat agent for those corps however. Is this accurate? What is this information based on? This is likely assuming you are willing to buy tags and translate them into some of the more involved LP purchases. Your general mission runner earns the most from Amarr followed by Caldari > Minmatar > Gallente. What those "easy" numbers are based on is a well-known secret of lazy mission runners. However, the ship you fly has a huge impact on which faction is the best option. Non-combat corps have some of the most valuable ISK/LP items this side of a pirate faction. Sisters of EVE are the best highsec conversion rate but I think their highsec systems are a bit limited However, you also accumulate fewer LP/hr and most people find doing your 5,000,000th courier to be even more boring than your 5,000,000th Damsel in Distress. ** Disclaimer: Author sometimes spell checks but is not responsible for sins of commission, omission, emission, transmission, or submission. Flowers, bricks, or any other form of feedback appreciated
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2010.03.31 04:40:00 - [20] Originally by: Kassa Daito However, you also accumulate fewer LP/hr and most people find doing your 5,000,000th courier to be even more boring than your 5,000,000th Damsel in Distress. Just to put it into context, a level 4 courier mission will award you about 300 LP, where a level 4 combat mission will award you about 3000LP. Most courier missions can be completed on autopilot, but the larger ones require about 6k m3, meaning you'll be carrying them in a ship that crawls the 15km to the gate in about 2 minutes (eg: blockade runner with cargo optimizers rather than expanders). [Aussie players: join channels ANZAC or AUSSIES]

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