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Boogie Bobby
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Posted - 2010.03.24 00:31:00 -
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I've been wondering if those of you who are successful in EVE, financially or otherwise, are successful in the same way in real life?
I know gamers, especially MMO type get the basement dweller stereotype but there's clearly some talent among the eve types. Alliance leadership, master trader, production and logistics etc etc all benefit from some form of ability(other than fastest button masher) that fits into a variety of real world jobs.
Personally my real life talents don't translate into the game and I don't have an eye for business, so it hasn't done anything for me in EVE. You?
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Legende
Two Brothers Mining Corp.
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.03.24 00:39:00 -
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I would say I'm fairly successful in life... not rich or anything, but I get by well enough to support my wife and coming child on my salary alone in midwest USA. I also consider myself fairly successful in EVE, though again not rich or anything like 50b+ in assets.
However my real life has no translation to my game life since I'm a level two technician for enterprise hardware tech support for a leading computer manufacturer.
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Atima
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.03.24 00:58:00 -
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My time and experience within eve helped me pick a career and I use the skills from work within eve.
I would consider myself successful in RL, but nothing particularly special.
Being successful in EVE may directly help in one way with RL and that is hard work and dedication. But simply being 'good' at EVE does not translate to RL success.
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
United Corporations Of Modern Eve
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Posted - 2010.03.24 00:59:00 -
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tbh looking in the mirror, i see alot of wasted potential :)
i dont run a succesfull ipo irl, and never had :) im not rich, wife is the majority income in our home. i am however a very successful dad, friend, a good contryman, i consider myself moraly and ethical upright etc.
and i hope in the future that i will make my contribution to the real world in the form of a unity theory in physics :)
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Atima
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.03.24 01:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Ji Sama
tbh looking in the mirror, i see alot of wasted potential :)
i dont run a succesfull ipo irl, and never had :) im not rich, wife is the majority income in our home. i am however a very successful dad, friend, a good contryman, i consider myself moraly and ethical upright etc.
and i hope in the future that i will make my contribution to the real world in the form of a unity theory in physics :)
As is said here, maybe if everyone put the time and dedication that they put into eve elsewhere they would be more successful. However where is the fun in that?
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Bad Bobby
The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
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Posted - 2010.03.24 01:20:00 -
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I fail just as badly at real life as I do at eve.
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Rykker Bow
Gallente
The Blackfold Brotherhood
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Posted - 2010.03.24 01:25:00 -
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As Joe Walsh says, I'm an ordinary average guy. Middle of the road kind of guy with a house in the suburbs and a picket fence, a great wife and 2.3 kids. Drink beers with friends and BBQ everychance I get.
Life's not bad. Not bad at all. 
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.24 01:44:00 -
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Edited by: SetrakDark on 24/03/2010 01:44:13
I think a big part of why I enjoy Eve is because I get to exercise my more base desires of power, greed, and competition, whereas in real life I am currently postponing opportunities for advancement so I can work on something that I am passionate about and that I think is important.
The difference between Eve and other games is that you can advance by playing smart and thinking outside the box, whereas most other games it's simply a matter of committing more hours to the 1-3 min/maxed playstyles.
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Redshirt I
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Posted - 2010.03.24 01:49:00 -
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The really dangerous part is how I am starting to think this day trading is pretty easy and need to do it IRL.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.03.24 02:42:00 -
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Two factors play against each other here. On the one hand, if you have the talent to succeed in eve then you probably have the talent to succeed in many areas of real life. However, if you have the inclination to succeed in eve you may well not have such an inclination in real life (at least, in terms of the common measures of success, such as wealth, advancement in your profession, etc). Similarly, if your real life job is extremely time-consuming and you have other time sinks, like a family (I pray my wife never sees that description  ), it is unlikely that you will have the time to become an eve trillionaire.
Personally, I do ok in RL but my second degree probably took an extra year to finish because I found a game called Hearts of Iron II. If I had found eve during that time, I dread to think what would have happened.
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Kenz Rider
J Club
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Posted - 2010.03.24 03:24:00 -
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Studying markets in EVE has certainly helped me in furthering my knowledge about real world financial markets, where I am engaged professionally.
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xylopia
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.03.24 03:45:00 -
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I'm neither rich in EVE nor irl. Just one of deadbeats lying around here and there barely makes his living and eve subscription. 
But hey, this game gets me pay attention on commodity price index, which I find very intriguing. I wish I could drop 10B there like I could in EVE, seriously. |
Umega
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.03.24 03:45:00 -
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I heard..
One of them real life pirates off South Africa in the Indian Ocean.. plays EVE.
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Aluin Chaput
Caldari
Metanoia.
Consortium.
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Posted - 2010.03.24 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: Umega
I heard..
One of them real life pirates off South Africa in the Indian Ocean.. plays EVE.
His name is.... Chribba!
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Syds Sinclair
J0urneys End
Journeys End Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.24 06:10:00 -
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..Well, in a backwards kind of way, Eve success = real life success for me. Having something I enjoy doing (Eve being my current video game fix, along with a few other hobbies I partake in) helps me get through the day of work. Being able to come home and mess with Eve (and the wife & kids) makes it all worth it. All work and no play makes Syds a dull female avatar who really is a guy.
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ITSAssassin
Royal Manufacturing and Blueprint Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.03.24 07:45:00 -
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I am Warren Buffet in RL, and...
Riethe is Burnie Madoff....lol.
Riethe's in jail with a tiny tiny laptop scamming for billions. Just give it up man!!!
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ChrisIsherwood
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Posted - 2010.03.24 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kenz Rider
Studying markets in EVE has certainly helped me in furthering my knowledge about real world financial markets, where I am engaged professionally.
Trendy
Economists learning from cyber-economies
Virtual Labs
Or did you mean you were telling all your clients you were leaving the firm and if they mailed you money you would return them triple?
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.03.24 09:54:00 -
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The thing is double faced for me.
I have always been successful in MMOs (good money, being in some of the top "guilds") but usually fail in RL.
I could have been quite rich in RL due to several opportunities (I even had 2 companies at a certain point) but these opportunities ALWAYS required me to step down of my just idiotic honesty principles and so I always refused to go ahead and grab them.
Something that EvE greatly helped me at, has been at learning and understanding economy and markets. I started EvE as total ignorant and now I can go and kick my banker's butt if any of their 10000 badly crafted false statements or contracts impact on me.
I even learned how to trade IRL and have done some of it, but thinking I am actually subtracting money off people who could end up without a meal because I took their money makes me feel bad so I mostly stopped doing it.
Yeah I am not definitely the smartest or opportunist guy out there 
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.03.24 10:11:00 -
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Confirming I'm a homeless bum is EVE as well as rl. My virtual and real lives are both plagued by misfortune and I am forced to make use of the charity of others despite my wishes and best efforts to be self sustaining.
Please send me some isk so I can buy a birthday present for my child.
I know a roll of toilet paper makes for a great mummy suit gift but that is what I gave for Christmas already.
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Tyranus vonCarstein
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.24 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Bobby
I fail just as badly at real life as I do at eve.
If you've failed at eve I guess I should change my defination of success? 
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Ping Bong
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Posted - 2010.03.24 11:19:00 -
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i do see the similarity of being ridiculously over rewarded for miniscule effort both in eve and irl. while my real occupation(or lack there of) has little to do with what i do in eve they both essentially profit off others lazyness
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Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
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Posted - 2010.03.24 11:24:00 -
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While most studies (at least those that make the press) about games/gamers/RL deal with how (virtual) violence influences social behavior, I remember that I once read a study where "leadership skills" were reviewed.
Do those who lead a successful corp (guild) or are good FCs (raid leaders) in MMOs make for good superiors in RL? The outcome was pretty in favor of (MMO) gaming. The bottom line was along the lines of: "To successfully manage/lead/supervise a group of people in a game, given all the restrictions present (no real authority, group members often do not even know each others outside the game, very limiting means of communication/organization etc.), requires good social skills. Skills that are also very helpful for the same task (running a department etc.) in RL."
Which doesn't equate to "you will make millions in RL", because it takes more than this to successfully create/run an enterprise. But it sure helps.
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2010.03.24 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Hel O'Ween
The outcome was pretty in favor of (MMO) gaming.
How is this in favor of MMO gaming?
What you did describe was a correlation without any notion of causality.
Personally, I would assume that those properties/predispositions that make you a good leader IRL also make you a good leader in MMO-style games - not that being a good leader in a MMO makes you a good/better leader IRL.
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Laetha
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.03.24 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 24/03/2010 09:55:50
>snip<
I started EvE as total ignorant and now I can go and kick my banker's butt if any of their 10000 badly crafted false statements or contracts impact on me.
This, if anything. My exaggerated paranoia in EVE has spilled over into RL and given me a healthy paranoia of any contract I enter into. My reluctance to be scammed in game = much more dilligence outside of the game when my real hard earned dollars are on the line.
I'm not blazingly successful RL as of yet, but my fiscal management and budgeting have improved tremendously since playing EVE. I'm close to escaping debt prison, and will be looking to invest to a far greater degree than I have at any other point in my life. So, win I guess. No other game has impacted my RL as much as this one has.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2010.03.24 12:53:00 -
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my grades have dropped across the board except for social studies where I am doing great
if you knew the age of some of the posters in this thread, it would crack you up too
17 y/o kid posting about how his stock portfolio is expanding and he's on par with the teller at CHASE bank
good goin
come here let me ruffle up your hair
you're a good kid
really
stay out of trouble
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Iosue
Gangrel Mining and Security
High Treason Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.24 14:43:00 -
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i'm successful in RL; have loving family and friends, great career, get to travel, own a couple of homes, a ranch, sports car, etc. however, i don't play eve with the same goals in mind that i have for RL. i play to have fun, meet new people, and to live out a childhood fantasy of having a space mining company .
i guess it all depends on your definition of success. even though i'm not a super billionaire in game, i consider myself successful because it serves the purpose i intend it to; entertainment. i would consider my eve time a failure if i had all the responsibilties and stresses of those who run 1000+ man alliances or huge corporations.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
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Posted - 2010.03.24 15:57:00 -
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I'm successful in life in a bunch of minor and major ways (I have a great job, a wonderful girlfriend, no money worries, and am a good dad) but the things I take into EvE that make me successful there are the same traits that have made me successful in RL - I'm hardworking, diligent, observant and honest, and all those qualities have benefited me both in RL and in EvE.
Have I started a successful business like I have in EvE? Nope, but if there was a way for me to grind as much cash as I want by killing, looting and selling to get a huge stake to buy the means of production, maybe I would :P
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Berenices Herculina
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.03.24 16:12:00 -
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'Money Makin Money Money Makin Manhattan'
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Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
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Posted - 2010.03.24 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Cyaxares II
How is this in favor of MMO gaming?
What you did describe was a correlation without any notion of causality.
Because the study was about "kids" which happen not to have any leadership positions in RL yet, but developed themselves the same skills (often without noticing it), that successfull team leaders have in their jobs.
And in favor of MMOs, because this study encouraged recruiters to activly seek for those guys, whereas before "playing MMOs" was (and still is) a secret "will not hire" flag for recruiters.
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Personally, I would assume that those properties/predispositions [...]
Sure it's a prepostition. But first developed in a game (in this case) before recognized in RL.
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Chronos VIII
Amarr
GK inc.
Panda Team
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Posted - 2010.03.24 16:56:00 -
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Say money bring *****es, *****es bring lies
One *****'s gettin jealous, and mother****ers dies...
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