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Jasdemi
Caldari Caldari Frontiers
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Posted - 2010.04.25 12:15:00 -
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Stop wasting your typing power. Not like it's ever gonna happen or something. ---------------------------------------------
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Jasdemi
Caldari Caldari Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.06.30 14:40:00 -
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Learning skills MUST be removed. Vote here: http://eve.uservoice.com/forums/64257-general/suggestions/871279-get-rid-of-the-learning-skills?ref=title
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Jasdemi
Caldari Caldari Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.07.04 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: salabeth Until CCP posts something in relation to this.. It is all total speculation.
I dont care either way. But for a new player it would make life easier to get going. Hang out in the help channel and you will see advice to train 5/4 all day long and after 3 years I dont have 5/4.
CCP already said that they're planning to remove learning skills.
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Jasdemi
Caldari Caldari Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:54:00 -
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Edited by: Jasdemi on 04/07/2010 18:54:43 Removal of learnings WILL bring more new players. I lost 6 of 7 of my buddy invites, because they didn't want to invest over 2 months into learnings before they can actually start training skills to play the game. I even offered them 200m each, but only 1 decided to subscribe. :(
Since then I no longer invited people to try out the game.
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Jasdemi
Caldari Caldari Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.07.05 20:00:00 -
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Don't forget to cast your vote here:
[Proposal] Learning skills solution
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Jasdemi
Caldari Caldari Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.07.06 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: Jasdemi on 06/07/2010 16:29:53
Originally by: Takseen
Originally by: Pantload
Tell me again why new players should train at exactly the same speed as old players?
Good question, why shouldn't new players train at exactly the same speed as old players?
Good question, why shouldn't we all be hippies just like our (grand)parents?
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Jasdemi
Caldari Caldari Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.07.07 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: AterraX Remove all learning skillbooks. Problem solved.
What? Oh, you want the attribute-bonus too, without any effort?
Sorry...don't have them trained, don't get the bonus.
That is the only solution I would support...
Good troll.
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Jasdemi
Caldari Caldari Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.07.07 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Guttripper
Originally by: Jasdemi
Originally by: AterraX Remove all learning skillbooks. Problem solved.
What? Oh, you want the attribute-bonus too, without any effort?
Sorry...don't have them trained, don't get the bonus.
That is the only solution I would support...
Good troll.
Until then, good troll to you too.
Why thank you!
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Posted - 2010.07.08 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Guttripper
Originally by: Mashie Saldana Who is talking about replacing the implants?
CCP is giving everyone +5 implants when the Learning skills go away?!?
Fits right in with them giving everyone +10 attribute points per stat too!!!
Alright! +15 to every stat - thanks CCP!!!
Dude, you should seriously work on your trolling skills. Even my mom could do it better. How to troll
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Posted - 2010.07.08 14:46:00 -
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Edited by: Jasdemi on 08/07/2010 14:46:36 So you still think it's better for newbies to sit in a station, training learnings for few months and playing Counterstrike in the meantime?
Why shouldn't new players actually get to play the game they paid for from day one? Why should they pay subs for 3+ months, login every few days to update their learning skill queues and logout again.
It's not like they'll be able to jump into Battleships in 2 days and pwn vets(which you're afraid off). Months of more skill training will be required just to become competitive in pvp.
I don't even get it why you're QQ'ing about the learnings so much. Will they hurt any players in EVE? Will CCP make less profit? No.
I don't believe it, I'm wasting my time to some obvious troll alt.
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Posted - 2010.07.09 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jasdemi on 09/07/2010 13:51:23
Originally by: Joahanas Stone How about CCP give new accounts the option of spending $45 for a advanced training class. This option would give the beginning account lvl 3 in each of the 5 tier 1 learning skills. And I would add the minimum skills for flying the next frigate up from a noob ship of their chosen race. CCP gets the money for 3 months of skill training and we don't have to wait for it if we make a second account
Training Learnings tier 1 to level 3 takes 3 months? WTF are you talking about? How about you use your brain first before you post something next time, ok?
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Posted - 2010.07.10 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: Star P'ergish
Originally by: Jasdemi Edited by: Jasdemi on 09/07/2010 13:51:23
Originally by: Joahanas Stone How about CCP give new accounts the option of spending $45 for a advanced training class. This option would give the beginning account lvl 3 in each of the 5 tier 1 learning skills. And I would add the minimum skills for flying the next frigate up from a noob ship of their chosen race. CCP gets the money for 3 months of skill training and we don't have to wait for it if we make a second account
Training Learnings tier 1 to level 3 takes 3 months? WTF are you talking about? How about you use your brain first before you post something next time, ok?
Since you don't have brain at all how come you post here? There is NO FREE RIDE IN EVE get it through to your empty head shmack! Stop trolling start playing maybe you can learn something one day.
Oh, you shouldn't worry about me. I'm playing EVE all day long, my learnings skills are also all maxed. I could be actually like you selfish vets and post dumb posts that learnings are good for the game. However I want the game to improve and the removal of learning skills will improve the newbie's experience, which will lead to more subscriptions. Grumpy vets will get their invested learning SP back anyway, so the chance is 99,99% that they WON'T leave the game due to this harmless change.
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Posted - 2010.07.10 18:36:00 -
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QQ less, Pantload. Learnings will be removed, you must live with this. Poor guy, poor guy.
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Posted - 2010.07.10 19:01:00 -
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CCP stated at fanfest '09 that they want to get rid of the learnings.
Also a CSM member will raise this proposal at the next meeting or so.(http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1324024&page=14#417)
Until now I still don't know your reason why you want the learning to stay ingame. Why? What's wrong with you? Only proper reason how the removal of learnings will harm EVE/CCP is enough to shut me up.
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Posted - 2010.07.11 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Turdilious
Originally by: Kaldani Malankori
Wrong, more people add to the power of the result, but the result won't be more reliable than a few fractions with more people. In fact, in statistics the subject group of the research is often small with a large control group, and papers are published and accepted when they reach about 95% chance (p=0.05) of being correct.
You are wrong. The highly biased sample that post on these forums would never be acceptable for evaluation. You have given this explanation yourself.
Originally by: Kaldani Malankori
The problem with forum counting is the bias that is made from only counting the people that post in the forums. Another example of this bias would be someone doing research on lung patients in a hospital on the lung ward. All his subjects would have lung diseases but would that be a good representative of the general population?
Many people are playing right now who are very, very happy with learning skills and have had no reason to complain about them.
Lmao, this made my day, troll.
Happy like this:
"HELL YES! Training learning skills is so much fun, I wish they'd never end! 3 months training only? WTF? I want to sit in a station for at least 5 year and do nothing. Please add Tier 20 learnings!"
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Posted - 2010.07.11 18:00:00 -
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Edited by: Jasdemi on 11/07/2010 18:00:11
Originally by: Star P'ergish
Originally by: Jasdemi
Happy like this:
"HELL YES! Training learning skills is so much fun, I wish they'd never end! 3 months training only? WTF? I want to sit in a station for at least 5 year and do nothing. Please add Tier 20 learnings!"
Who is trolling now ? I think you do. You're using again a false axiom that in order to train learning skills you are not able to play the game itself. You know it is not true , we all know that you know that so you're a troll and even worse you are stupid and obsessed. Please continue posting there is no better way to ridicule the whole idea of removing learning skills than reading your "arguments".
What? Translating your thoughts makes me a troll? I just posted a TL;DR version of you learning lovers.
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Posted - 2010.07.11 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Reldor Silverheart All i see from you Jasdemi is the fact taht you post things like learning skills should be removed, this goes for pretty much most of those against theese skills, yet i see no compromises from you, it's as if you jump on the free stat bandwagon directly. Meanwhile the peoplewho support learning skills has come up with a few ideas and option, yet those many of you blow away with insults like "angry vet" etc etc.
Get a clue and try to come with other ideas that a simple welfare plan.
Why should I? It's pretty safe that learnings will be removed very soon.
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Posted - 2010.07.11 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kovcher Staklinch
Originally by: Jasdemi
Originally by: Reldor Silverheart All i see from you Jasdemi is the fact taht you post things like learning skills should be removed, this goes for pretty much most of those against theese skills, yet i see no compromises from you, it's as if you jump on the free stat bandwagon directly. Meanwhile the peoplewho support learning skills has come up with a few ideas and option, yet those many of you blow away with insults like "angry vet" etc etc.
Get a clue and try to come with other ideas that a simple welfare plan.
Why should I? It's pretty safe that learnings will be removed very soon.
CCP Fallout
Quote: Hello all,
I know many of you are enjoying yourselves today, posting baseless rumors about features of the game. While they may humor you, they are causing discord amongst the community, are considered trolling, and are not welcomed on our forums.
Please note that continued rumor threads may result in official warnings against your forum account and can result in the temporary or permanent removal of your posting privileges.
I'd hope that you'd all had your fun, but please keep in mind that trolling is prohibited.
Ok, why isn't this thread and 2 other across the board aren't locked yet?
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Posted - 2010.07.11 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: Jasdemi
Lmao, this made my day, troll.
Happy like this:
"HELL YES! Training learning skills is so much fun, I wish they'd never end! 3 months training only? WTF? I want to sit in a station for at least 5 year and do nothing. Please add Tier 20 learnings!"
QQ some more...
I already maxed my learnings, I have nothing to QQ about.
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Posted - 2010.07.11 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: Jasdemi
Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: Jasdemi
Lmao, this made my day, troll.
Happy like this:
"HELL YES! Training learning skills is so much fun, I wish they'd never end! 3 months training only? WTF? I want to sit in a station for at least 5 year and do nothing. Please add Tier 20 learnings!"
QQ some more...
I already maxed my learnings, I have nothing to QQ about.
Lie some more: http://eveboard.com/pilot/Jasdemi
Maxed out learning skills = 5.376.000 SP. Not 4.632.000 SP
Now I know you are just a sad little 12,601,580 SP troll panda
Max. charisma would only hurt my epic posting skills.
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Posted - 2010.07.11 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kovcher Staklinch
Originally by: AterraX Now I know you are just a sad little 12,601,580 SP troll panda
A liar and a troll
Panda?
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Posted - 2010.07.12 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Guttripper
Originally by: Kovcher Staklinch
Originally by: AterraX Now I know you are just a sad little 12,601,580 SP troll panda
A liar and a troll
For someone that started December 2nd, 2008 - you sure are behind in skill points!!!
null Why thank you!
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Posted - 2010.07.13 10:13:00 -
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Ignore Alterax. He's just trolling with an alt account. Don't waste your time responding to his obvious troll attempts.
It wouldn't post with its account, if it was serious.
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Posted - 2010.07.13 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Jasdemi on 13/07/2010 14:07:06 Edited by: Jasdemi on 13/07/2010 14:06:43
Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: Jasdemi Ignore Alterax. He's just trolling with an alt account. Don't waste your time responding to his obvious troll attempts.
It wouldn't post with its account, if it was serious.
Hello troll-liar.
You are more ******ed than I thought if you can't find my main. But I guess my "Low. I.Q" filter (aka posting with an alt) works, thanks for claifying that.
What? Creating an char named AterraY will make Aterra my main? Awesome!
Although who would want to have an character named liked this? 4/6 of the word "r.etar.d" is inside. Is you char called like this to symbolize your true self?
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Posted - 2010.07.13 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: Jasdemi on 13/07/2010 14:51:21
Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: Jasdemi
What? Creating an char named AterraY will make Aterra my main? Awesome! Although who would want to have an character named liked this? 4/6 of the word "retar.d" is inside. Is your char called like this to symbolize your true self?
Look up AterraX ingame. Look at the corp he is in. Specifically who created that corp...and the name of that char. ??? Profit.
See, you just prove my point...an OBVIOUSLY and NOT hidden alt was enough to throw you off. As I said...Low I.Q. Filter...and it cleary works...as you just demonstrated
Quote: Learnings won't stay ingame for much longer, stop resisting with dumb arguments already.
Lying (again) won't help you...
You really believe someone would waste their precious time and search for some no-name like you ingame? And not willing to waste time for dumb things makes my IQ lower? That's really new for me.
I think I may learn a lot of more dumb, yet interesting things from you. Go on.
PS: I recommend all new players to train something else, not learnings. As it looks, it's pretty safe that learnings will be removed. CCP would close all 3 threads, if this wasn't true.
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Posted - 2010.07.14 14:19:00 -
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I simply can't get enough of this bull****-posting-Pantload. Awesome work, really awesome! Looking forward to read more of your wannabe-"arguments".
To start you off, learnings will be removed.
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Posted - 2010.07.14 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Reldor Silverheart Edited by: Reldor Silverheart on 14/07/2010 15:05:35 Edited by: Reldor Silverheart on 14/07/2010 15:03:44
Originally by: Jennifer Fenring Edited by: Jennifer Fenring on 14/07/2010 14:58:42
Originally by: Pantload blah blah
Wel it's clear you don't want any gifts and actually dispise them, perhaps you hate santa claus and thanksgiving too (I presume you're american, if not: your local present exchanging holidays)?
- Still you don't answer my argument that less learning skills will atract more people. There's a lot of posts from people with friends who really didn't want to bother with learning skills so didn't sign up after trial. So no use denying that point.
Again the fault doesn't lie in the learning skills, this also goes for other semi expensive books for a new player.
- Also more people playing -> more money for CCP -> more resoruces to attract devs to improve upon the game. Also no word from you to counter this argument.
- 6 weeks of "free time" - I mean skilling time, not playing time. Everyone gets the learning skills to 5 and a refund for what you already had. It doesn't advantage me more or less than you. And new players also don't get 6 weeks of free time, they get the SP. Just like you and me.
I must say I still haven't read anything else than "welfare handouts for you and the other screamers is not acceptable" as your counterargument. Giving away skills "don't promote people to do for themselves"? What the hell is that supposed to mean, game-wise?
There's no definite proof that less learning skills will attract more people thom, yeah i've heard the stories friends who joined and left because they had to train the learnign skills for 3 months etc.
Maybe not, but there's definite proof that learning skills scare new players away. I won't post any proofs, but think about it: How many of your RL friends, family, or w/e would want to spend 3x15$ for practically nothing?
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Edited by: Jasdemi on 14/07/2010 15:40:22
Originally by: Pantload
There is definite proof but you wont post any? Post your proof or it doesn't exist. This paying for 3 months to do nothing in game is what YOU did. It's not what sane people should do.
Being efficient is not sane? Seriously dude, what the hell are you talking about? Don't you have even have some common sense?
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Posted - 2010.07.14 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Reldor Silverheart
Originally by: Jasdemi Edited by: Jasdemi on 14/07/2010 15:40:22
Originally by: Pantload
There is definite proof but you wont post any? Post your proof or it doesn't exist. This paying for 3 months to do nothing in game is what YOU did. It's not what sane people should do.
Being efficient is not sane? Seriously dude, what the hell are you talking about? Don't you have even have some common sense?
Learning skills =/= Efficeancy.
Being able to stand on your own leg withoyut relying on others to much = Efficency.
1. Learn to spell "Efficiency" properly. 2. Google for "Efficiency" and learn what it means. 3. ????? 4. Profit!!
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Edited by: Jasdemi on 14/07/2010 16:42:00
Originally by: Pantload
And didn't you swear off trolling and turn pro-learning skills the other day?
It's totally another thread mate. Don't mix them up.
As for my "low" SP amount, the last 2 year were really busy due to a lot of school and work. You know, stuff you do in real life to make a living. Not selling alliances/corps in a internet spaceships game. Real stuff, which you're probably unaware of.
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Posted - 2010.07.14 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Pantload
I have to shake my head at this. Not that it's any concern of yours but I own and run a business IRL. What I do in-game as an income stream is totally unrelated. You're going to have to smarten up enormously before you are in a position to condescend to the likes of me.
Hahahaha! Now he's showing off with his "real life". Dude, I don't care who you are or what you're doing in your real life. EVE is a game, don't mix these things with each other too much. If you want to talk about your real life problems & issues, try some therapist or w/e. However, Skill Discussion forum is definitely not suited for this.
The learning skills threads were now up for almost 3 weeks and no single thread was closed, hence it's not a rumor and the majority of posters also agrees to this change. Good luck resisting to the very end.
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Posted - 2010.07.14 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Pantload Edited by: Pantload on 14/07/2010 19:12:55
Originally by: Jasdemi
Originally by: Pantload
I have to shake my head at this. Not that it's any concern of yours but I own and run a business IRL. What I do in-game as an income stream is totally unrelated. You're going to have to smarten up enormously before you are in a position to condescend to the likes of me.
Hahahaha! Now he's showing off with his "real life". Dude, I don't care who you are or what you're doing in your real life. EVE is a game, don't mix these things with each other too much. If you want to talk about your real life problems & issues, try some therapist or w/e. However, Skill Discussion forum is definitely not suited for this.
The learning skills threads were now up for almost 3 weeks and no single thread was closed, hence it's not a rumor and the majority of posters also agrees to this change. Good luck resisting to the very end.
Your arguments are degenerating to a point where you will actually pretty much be a monkey throwing his own ***** at people very soon.
Now that's very creative, I must say. What must I do to have same sick thoughts like you?
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Posted - 2010.07.14 20:06:00 -
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Edited by: Jasdemi on 14/07/2010 20:07:14
Originally by: Pantload
This line of discussion is still way off topic. You are continuing to troll this thread and derail the discussion. You're doing it on purpose for your childish amusement. It really needs to stop.
Actually you're the one derailing. I'm always talking about learnings and how negatively they affect EVE. You in comparison are trying to derail this thread, so the mods close it, because you're against the removal of learnings. How about you get back on-topic and discuss about learnings, not about yourself and what you do in RL. For this purpose you can try the Out of Pod Experience sub-forum.
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Posted - 2010.07.15 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: joshua boston I did the whole learning skill thing first... it didn't take me 3 months though... what a bunch of rookies. This thread is nowhere near as good as the rage threads about hulkageddon. I'm going back to those for some lolz
Lol lying noob. So in less than 3 months you made over 5m SP with a new char? Obvious troll is obvious.
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Posted - 2010.07.15 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: SammyullJackson Edited by: SammyullJackson on 15/07/2010 07:15:00
Originally by: Jasdemi
Originally by: joshua boston I did the whole learning skill thing first... it didn't take me 3 months though... what a bunch of rookies. This thread is nowhere near as good as the rage threads about hulkageddon. I'm going back to those for some lolz
Lol lying noob. So in less than 3 months you made over 5m SP with a new char? Obvious troll is obvious.
At the end of 3 months for an alt I just made, I'll have around 6.5 million SP, or so EVEMon says.
So...
EDIT: I can be at about 5.2ish million after 2 and a half months, so I think that fulfills your criteria of less than 3 months and more than 5 million SP.
1. New players don't know what EVEMon is. 2. New players don't have 100m to buy books and implants, since they can't do anything in these 3+ months. 3. New players aren't aware of attributes they must set up for best SP/hour. = There's no way new players can make 5m SP in less than 3 months.
@Alterax: Of course not, darling.
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Posted - 2010.07.15 16:07:00 -
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Confirming that Aganazer is an alt.
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Posted - 2010.07.15 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Aganazer
Originally by: Jasdemi Confirming that Aganazer is an alt.
I guess I was expecting something more along the lines of "Hello and welcome to Eve".
You wish. However, except rage with a breeze of wall of text in:
3 .... 2 ... 1 ...
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Posted - 2010.07.16 13:56:00 -
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Pantoad, stop derailing this thread already. In the past few pages you've been only posting off-topic and insulting everyone who wants learning skills to be removed. Can't you accept their opinion? We know that you don't want EVE to grow and give new players an easier launch, hence you troll and insult everyone here. It's your job after all to damage the community and I fully understand and accept this, but stop insulting everyone. Do your job in a creative way.
Also you have to accept that learning skills will be removed, it's just a matter of time. Live with this, my dear.
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Posted - 2010.07.16 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jeleka Valens Yes, it would be great to see those things, but it won't happen while you continue to derail any post ado of learning skills or their reform.
Agree.
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Posted - 2010.07.16 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Pantload Hmm. I'm trying to go on topic here and start the ball rolling again towards positive change. You guys have to set your hatred for me aside and help in this effort. Let's move forward. Please.
We gave you several chances already, but you derailing this thread. It's not 100% your fault, you're just a little bit more sensible to opposite opinions. I don't blame you for this, though.
I vote to just close this thread and move on.
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Posted - 2010.07.16 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Pantload
To Jeleka and Jasdemi: thanks for being such an insufferable pair of fools. It has given me a renewed vigor on this subject.
Originally by: Pantload
Doesn't matter any more. I'm done. You guys butcher the **** out of the game however you see fit. Justify it in any way necessary. In the words of Eric Cartman: "Screw you guys. I'm going home."
You're bluffing.
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Posted - 2010.07.19 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: stoicfaux
Summary: they aren't broken, getting stuff for free bad, Eve is a HARD game/this isn't WoW.
I love the HARD part in EVE, but what's HARD with learnings? You just have to create an account and login every few days to update your queue.
Annoying? Yes. HARD? No.
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