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Nekre
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.25 11:35:00 -
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Here's the thing... I know some people want to have add-ins for EVE Online the way you can have them for other games like WoW for example. I know CCP said no to this because they have concerns about security. But I've been thinking about an alternative that should satisfy those concerns and at the same time bring more flexibility to the game client. And what I'd like to have is a way of integrating web applications with the game.
With the new and quite powerful IGB the number of web applications created for EVE will be going up. There's all sorts of things people will be creating in order to get functionality that the client doesn't have or will never have. Tools for coordinating big scale logistics, mining operations, trading and so on. But all of those goodies have to run inside the IGB which means you have an address bar that you don't really care about and tabs and all sorts of things that aren't really useful. At the same time you don't get the useful stuff like having those applications behave like any other window meaning they're not part of the layout. If I create a tool to help me plot a course through null sec using a JB network I might want to have that open all the time on my screen since the moment I log in. I don't want to sift through my bookmarks or my open tabs for it. Or maybe a tool for w-space exploration to help people coordinate their scans when they try to find an exit... or map out that exit with intelligence information. Those and more would greatly benefit from better integration both in terms of look and usability.
So my proposal for CCP is this: give us the ability to register web pages as applications with the client. Once that is done I would be able to open those applications and they should behave like any other window. You would have the name at the top and the regular controls for minimize and close window and everything inside would be just the html rendered. One step further would be to have some CSS classes to match the client look so that I could make a button in my application look just like any other button in the client. Also the scroll bars could be rendered like the scroll bars in game rather than like the html ones.
Please let me know what you think and help me get this on the table with CCP.
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Charney deGeoff
Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.25 11:42:00 -
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Well this is something I can wholeheartedly support - being able to integrate web apps into the UI/window structure would be very cool.
+1
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Ombey
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.25 11:42:00 -
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I like this, gets my vote!
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.03.25 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: darius mclever on 25/03/2010 11:53:25 +1
but it would need some kind of indicator that it is a web application so it wont get too easy to scam with it e.g.
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Evanga
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.25 11:57:00 -
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Supported!
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Charney deGeoff
Caldari Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.25 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: Charney deGeoff on 25/03/2010 12:10:44 It could work something like this:
Have a "create custom window"-button somewhere in the client. Clicking that just creates empty "window canvas" object (with normal EVE UI window controls). Have a "import web content"-function in the custom window that basically just brings in a instance of the IGB "tab" tied to certain URL (sans windowframe, toolbars etc).
This way it would be up to everyone to decide what apps they want to import into the UI without it having to go through CCP approval processes etc. Essentially it would just be a browser window embedded into normal client window frames
So security-wise for CCP it wouldn't be any different from the IGB (because everything would execute in the IGB). For us players it would bring less cluttered and more unified UI experience.
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Nekre
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.25 12:53:00 -
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@darius mclever ... what Charney said. But actually I was thinking of something even simpler. Something more like a button in the IGB to say "Add this to my applications". Of course the site would have to be trusted already. Once you hit that the application icon would appear somewhere in the left side menu, for example in the same place with the calculator and the notes thing. When you click on the application icon it would just open and behave normally. This way people would be aware that an application is web based since they have to manually add them. Also CCP could add something in the window bar to make sure people don't forget.
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Inara Kan're
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Posted - 2010.03.25 13:10:00 -
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Yup, this sounds great!!
/signed
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Heria Herath
Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.25 13:34:00 -
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+1
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Borza Slavak
Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.25 16:32:00 -
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+1
Would be nice to have.
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Jennahia Fox
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Posted - 2010.03.25 17:44:00 -
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+1
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Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.25 21:24:00 -
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Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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zoolkhan
Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.29 11:10:00 -
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Nekre
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.29 13:16:00 -
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*bumpage*
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.03.30 01:09:00 -
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Click this <link> (to donate all your isk to me).
Eve is not supposed to be idiot-proof. Even if it allowed scams, it would be well within the parameters of the rest of the game. Two thumbs up! |
Nekre
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.08 11:40:00 -
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well that's not my intent.. I'm looking to get the look and feel of eve for external applications.
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Zalbrak
Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.08 11:50:00 -
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