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Yusuf Amir	Posted - 2010.04.20 19:01:00 - [271] Originally by: Gawdisa Edited by: Gawdisa on 20/04/2010 02:08:05 Split screen just looks like the windows are over lapped with the right window hanging off the viewable area. You aren't able to see the actual area of the screen where the ships reside, covered by the station box. I'm assuming the right hand windows are tagged to always remain on top. I gotta say it's an awesome setup. Just imagine the fap sessions. All those different screens. Mmmm. /edit cause i couldn't say **** =) Not really.
Syn Callibri Minmatar Swag Co. Sandbox Bullies	Posted - 2010.04.20 19:08:00 - [272] That rig is just freakin INSANE! "I have just as much authority as the empress, just not as many people that believe it."
Rayborn	Posted - 2010.04.21 03:37:00 - [273] WOW, impressive set up. but wondering if you really can get any fun out of this. I seriously doubt anyone will want to do this unless they are pro-isk farmer and selling the isk they make. but i might be wrong=P
Lady Aja Caldari IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.21 05:03:00 - [274] Originally by: Rayborn WOW, impressive set up. but wondering if you really can get any fun out of this. I seriously doubt anyone will want to do this unless they are pro-isk farmer and selling the isk they make. but i might be wrong=P So many of you guys think this is such a great setup. I for one do not believe it could EVER work. Cellotape to hold 6 mouses together? no apparent usage? no video showing proof this works? its a 100% bull**** excuse to get around " i aint marcoing mr gm.. "
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.04.21 06:26:00 - [275] Quote: . I no longer use Synergy or even mine. I can understand how seeing 12 ospreys mining would cause players and GM's to assume the worst. Now I'm training exploration to hopefully do some complexes. You should be beaten with a spiky stick for wasting money and resources to mine with 12 ospreys instead of proper ships. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz

GM Lelouch Game Masters	Posted - 2010.04.23 15:51:00 - [276] Edited by: GM Lelouch on 23/04/2010 15:52:45 Hello there, To make a long story short, automation of gameplay is not permitted; players must be manually issuing the commands to control their character(s) at all times. Our stance on programs such as Synergy and hardware/software combination such as the G15 keyboard is that they can be legitimately used as long as gameplay isn't automated. Synergy allows you to move your mouse cursor to multiple different monitors which are hooked up to different computers and we do not have any qualms with players using the program for this purpose. If Synergy was used in some way to control your accounts for you without a need for you to be at your keyboard, then that would not be allowed, but I am not aware of such a functionality with this program. If Synergy is used in conjunction with some other program to automate gameplay, it would not be permitted. G15 "macros" which allow you to group different commands into one keypress are allowed. For example, setting your G1 key to press F1, F2, F3 and so on for you with one key press is allowed (although this specific command is not as useful as it was before now that we have weapon grouping). An exceedingly complex G15 macro which would effectively automate gameplay, such as mining, without a need for the player to be present at his keyboard would be against the EULA, regardless of whether the player utilizing said macro is sitting at his keyboard at the time! Lastly, multiboxing is allowed, and programs designed for multiboxing in mind which allow a player to manually issue the same command to multiple game clients at the same time are allowed. In the same vein as what has been stated above, the player must be manually sending the commands; if a program is automating those commands for you, then it would be considered a breach of our EULA. I hope this clears up this matter. Best regards, Senior GM Lelouch EVE Online Customer Support

S'qarpium D'igil	Posted - 2010.04.23 18:30:00 - [277] Thank you for a very concise clarification. :)
Mashie Saldana Red Federation	Posted - 2010.04.23 19:42:00 - [278] Originally by: Lady Aja its a 100% bull**** excuse to get around " i aint marcoing mr gm.. " Indeed, OP was in Tourier local yesterday, I was impressed how he managed to jump all 14 ships out of system within one second using that mouse setup.
Cambarus The Compass Reloaded	Posted - 2010.04.23 20:21:00 - [279] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Originally by: Lady Aja its a 100% bull**** excuse to get around " i aint marcoing mr gm.. " Indeed, OP was in Tourier local yesterday, I was impressed how he managed to jump all 14 ships out of system within one second using that mouse setup. It's funny how 2 posts after we get an official response in the thread stating that g15s and synergy are allowed, people are already complaining that the OPs setup couldn't possibly work, given that we now know it's a moot point because he's allowed to use synergy anyway. Also even without any sort of setup like the OPs it's easy to get ships to jump together. Warp to gate and turn the autopilot on for all characters. Every jumps at the same time, but then I'd not expect anyone still arguing over whether or not the OPs setup is legit after a senior GM (thanks Lelouch :D ) has already declared the point moot to be able to figure out how to make several ships do something in unison.
EdwardNardella Capital Construction Research	Posted - 2010.04.23 22:32:00 - [280] Quite a timely post Mr. GM I got a petition response at the same time. Now I have to start looking for software to do this. I run six clients on one PC with two displays. I tried PwnBoxer but instead of handling the clients it handles their splash screen. KeyClone was too complex for my abilities gonna try again tho. MouseClone works but it has some bugs that make it almost useless. Anyone know of others? CCRES is recruiting pilots who want to live in WSpace/Wormholes. Fill out an application here!
Panic Merchant	Posted - 2010.05.09 02:59:00 - [281] Hmmm, at work I have access to an old, unused 64 node cluster. We made some specialized electronics that can duplicate the signal from a mouse and a keyboard, so we can send the same commands to 64 nodes at once. The same setup also shrinks down the displays so they can easily fit into a smaller number of displays. Maybe I should setup 64 accounts and zap the life out of EVE... Is this allowed CCP? Hehe, with that number I could probably make a frigate gang and roam around ganking other gangs on my own :)
Emperor Cheney Celebrity Sex Tape	Posted - 2010.05.09 23:57:00 - [282] wait, wait So this means that if one of your ships gets pointed, you all end up being locked down, right? hmmmmmmmmm
Rpeg Minmatar Rosa Castellum	Posted - 2010.05.10 03:28:00 - [283] Maybe it's just me, but I would've spent that money on a prostitute. -- autechre - ep7 - track 1: rpeg estevancarlos.com
EdwardNardella Capital Construction Research	Posted - 2010.05.10 05:12:00 - [284] Originally by: Panic Merchant Hmmm, at work I have access to an old, unused 64 node cluster. We made some specialized electronics that can duplicate the signal from a mouse and a keyboard, so we can send the same commands to 64 nodes at once. The same setup also shrinks down the displays so they can easily fit into a smaller number of displays. Maybe I should setup 64 accounts and zap the life out of EVE... Is this allowed CCP? Hehe, with that number I could probably make a frigate gang and roam around ganking other gangs on my own :) I am pretty sure it is. You could easily get fresh 64 trial accounts to a total of 2k dps would be awesome. CCRES is recruiting pilots who want to live in WSpace/Wormholes. Fill out an application here!
Ulviirala Vauryndar Gallente Vauryndar Dalharil	Posted - 2010.05.10 08:53:00 - [285] That guy has got the money to pay for 64 accounts, and the hardware to run it on. EVE is so unfair. Or was it life? Or was my life EVE? Seriously, go and quit. Also, you can't run multiple trials from the same ip address. Unfortunately, your signature is not 22239 bytes, it exceeds the 24000 byte limit allowed on the forums. -Darth Patches I fail, regards to Cortes - Ulvi
Grantara	Posted - 2010.05.10 10:54:00 - [286] This is incredibly sick. Go see a therapist.
iP0D	Posted - 2010.05.10 11:05:00 - [287] Originally by: GM Lelouch Lastly, multiboxing is allowed, and programs designed for multiboxing in mind which allow a player to manually issue the same command to multiple game clients at the same time are allowed. In the same vein as what has been stated above, the player must be manually sending the commands; if a program is automating those commands for you, then it would be considered a breach of our EULA. That is still a bit confusing. Sending commands via software to multiple clients is allowed, but this must be done manually and not in an automated manner. The clinch with multiboxing is the simultaneous manual control over multiple clients. That is where guys like the OP get their advantages from, yes it is a manual interaction but one only focused on a single client, the software then broadcasts that simultaneously to other clients so all operate in an accelerated format in a synchronised manner. What you're saying now, is that the concept of broadcasting in multiboxing software, to simultaneously control multiple eve clients through broadcasting your manual actions on one client to the other clients in realtime, is allowed. Regardless of whether achieved through software like Synergy with broadcasting enabled, or mousecloning software. That's a recipee for disaster imo. You're giving carte blanche to multi account owners to accelerate their effective gameplay through such software.
Cambarus The Compass Reloaded	Posted - 2010.05.10 13:24:00 - [288] Originally by: iP0D Originally by: GM Lelouch That is still a bit confusing. Sending commands via software to multiple clients is allowed, but this must be done manually and not in an automated manner. The clinch with multiboxing is the simultaneous manual control over multiple clients. That is where guys like the OP get their advantages from, yes it is a manual interaction but one only focused on a single client, the software then broadcasts that simultaneously to other clients so all operate in an accelerated format in a synchronised manner. What you're saying now, is that the concept of broadcasting in multiboxing software, to simultaneously control multiple eve clients through broadcasting your manual actions on one client to the other clients in realtime, is allowed. Regardless of whether achieved through software like Synergy with broadcasting enabled, or mousecloning software. That's a recipee for disaster imo. You're giving carte blanche to multi account owners to accelerate their effective gameplay through such software. Multi-account owners alreadyhavea huge advantage over those that only have one, because even if you spend billions fitting out a ship, more often than not 2 t2 fits of the same ship will outperform it, and the problem scales up with numbers. But eve is not fair, nor has it ever been. Those who have t2 BPOs have a huge advantage over those who don't, and those who've been playing long enough to get limited edition ships and modules also have one. Such is eve, get over it. Also, how many people do you think there are out there who do what the OP here does? It's hilarious, but not exactly something I'd be worried about becoming a common practice, because with 14 accounts, you spend what, 3-4bil a month worth of plexs to keep them active? If I were able to spend the cash needed to fund 14 accounts on eve every month, I'd already be playing in an accelerated manner, just because of the sheer amount of isk I could make by selling GTCs.
Tiberizzle	Posted - 2010.05.16 18:39:00 - [289] Originally by: GM Lelouch Edited by: GM Lelouch on 23/04/2010 15:52:45 Hello there, To make a long story short, automation of gameplay is not permitted; players must be manually issuing the commands to control their character(s) at all times. Our stance on programs such as Synergy and hardware/software combination such as the G15 keyboard is that they can be legitimately used as long as gameplay isn't automated. Synergy allows you to move your mouse cursor to multiple different monitors which are hooked up to different computers and we do not have any qualms with players using the program for this purpose. If Synergy was used in some way to control your accounts for you without a need for you to be at your keyboard, then that would not be allowed, but I am not aware of such a functionality with this program. If Synergy is used in conjunction with some other program to automate gameplay, it would not be permitted. G15 "macros" which allow you to group different commands into one keypress are allowed. For example, setting your G1 key to press F1, F2, F3 and so on for you with one key press is allowed (although this specific command is not as useful as it was before now that we have weapon grouping). An exceedingly complex G15 macro which would effectively automate gameplay, such as mining, without a need for the player to be present at his keyboard would be against the EULA, regardless of whether the player utilizing said macro is sitting at his keyboard at the time! Lastly, multiboxing is allowed, and programs designed for multiboxing in mind which allow a player to manually issue the same command to multiple game clients at the same time are allowed. In the same vein as what has been stated above, the player must be manually sending the commands; if a program is automating those commands for you, then it would be considered a breach of our EULA. I hope this clears up this matter. Best regards, Senior GM Lelouch EVE Online Customer Support hate to bump this but wow sudden outbreak of common sense I was hopping mad when I heard this guy got banned for using Synergy and started to wonder if there was a full brain between the entire GM staff, now I suspect there might be.
Jovian Dax Caldari Old Dominion Engineering Consortium.	Posted - 2010.05.16 18:57:00 - [290] hey help a small guy out that only has one laptop and one char. some isk a char hell even another computer this game is big enough come help the little guy <a href="https://eve-search.com/externalLink.asp?l=http%3A%2F%2Fs938%2Ephotobucket%2Ecom%2Falbums%2Fad228%2Fthomasmlinek%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3Dsig1copy1%2Egif" target="_blank"><img src="http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad228/thomasmlinek/sig1copy1.gif" border
Slavemaster	Posted - 2010.05.16 19:09:00 - [291] Man, forget the "get a life" comments... This is pure awesome, and yeah I wanna have a setup like that... .... Now just get 14 girls at the same time, then you might win Life... Happy hunting trooper Regards SM, born 03.
Space Pinata Amarr Discount Napkin Industries	Posted - 2010.05.16 21:52:00 - [292] Multiboxing: God awful from a gameplay standpoint, allowed solely because it brings in extra revenue.
T'Amber www.shipsofeve.com	Posted - 2010.05.16 22:12:00 - [293] All I can say is this: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1005/batodualboxes.jpg -T'amber POLITICS:SIMULATORÖ
Elldranga	Posted - 2010.05.17 04:26:00 - [294] Originally by: GM Lelouch Edited by: GM Lelouch on 23/04/2010 15:52:45 Hello there, To make a long story short, automation of gameplay is not permitted; players must be manually issuing the commands to control their character(s) at all times. Our stance on programs such as Synergy and hardware/software combination such as the G15 keyboard is that they can be legitimately used as long as gameplay isn't automated. Synergy allows you to move your mouse cursor to multiple different monitors which are hooked up to different computers and we do not have any qualms with players using the program for this purpose. If Synergy was used in some way to control your accounts for you without a need for you to be at your keyboard, then that would not be allowed, but I am not aware of such a functionality with this program. If Synergy is used in conjunction with some other program to automate gameplay, it would not be permitted. G15 "macros" which allow you to group different commands into one keypress are allowed. For example, setting your G1 key to press F1, F2, F3 and so on for you with one key press is allowed (although this specific command is not as useful as it was before now that we have weapon grouping). An exceedingly complex G15 macro which would effectively automate gameplay, such as mining, without a need for the player to be present at his keyboard would be against the EULA, regardless of whether the player utilizing said macro is sitting at his keyboard at the time! Lastly, multiboxing is allowed, and programs designed for multiboxing in mind which allow a player to manually issue the same command to multiple game clients at the same time are allowed. In the same vein as what has been stated above, the player must be manually sending the commands; if a program is automating those commands for you, then it would be considered a breach of our EULA. I hope this clears up this matter. Best regards, Senior GM Lelouch EVE Online Customer Support I just gotta say thanks... it's not often we get a clear concise statement like this that actually addresses all the details we're concerned about. It's much appreciated GM Lelouch.
GauteGodager	Posted - 2010.05.17 16:43:00 - [295] Originally by: Ulviirala Vauryndar That guy has got the money to pay for 64 accounts, and the hardware to run it on. EVE is so unfair. Or was it life? Or was my life EVE? Seriously, go and quit. Also, you can't run multiple trials from the same ip address. Trials limitation is checked on client to see if you already have Eve running, not on Eve servers by comparing IPs (CCP isn't stupid, it would suck hardcore if you couldn't start playing at the same time than your wife/GF, roomate, brother, ...)
Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts	Posted - 2010.05.17 17:03:00 - [296] Originally by: Ulviirala Vauryndar Also, you can't run multiple trials from the same ip address. Yes you can, the limit is one per machine, not IP address. If you have 64 computers, or 64 virtual machines even, you can run 64 trial accounts. The way it works is when the eve client goes to log in it checks to see if the account logging in is a trial or if any clients are already logged in with a trial, and cancels out there, it is not related to IP at all. -------------------------------------------- Quote: EVE-Online... Too rough for ya? Don't like it? GTFO...
Zhek Kromtor	Posted - 2010.05.18 14:15:00 - [297] Thank you GM Lelouch for clarifying the rules it is much appreciated. Also thanks to GM Krymus who did eventually respond to my petition, apologized and expunged the 3-day ban from my record. I'm very impressed by the CCP employees in the way they rectified this. As for the "slipperly slope" arguments, seriously, good luck trying to play 6 at once let alone 64. Nothing works exactly how you want it and you are constantly having to switch to single systems in order to correct things. I take no offense to the "get a life" comments. My grandmother and I just finished a project that utilizes the laundry chute as a means for deliverying hotpockets fresh out of the microwave to me in the basement. I ring a bell and a few minutes later she drops a hot one down the chute. Believe me, I've got the life. http://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/
Zak'eni Private Nuisance	Posted - 2010.05.25 11:38:00 - [298] Zhek you rock, I hope you get back to goonwaffe and have some fun.
Wacktopia Dark Side Of The Womb Nostradamus Effect	Posted - 2010.05.25 11:59:00 - [299] I saw you on gate the other day with your ravenswarm. Quite a sight :)
khazak mokl	Posted - 2010.05.25 14:11:00 - [300] Wow Many thanks for the pics as I can now show them to my girlfriend and prove that I do not have a EVE addiction. Or if I do its so not as bad as urs lol. +100 points for genius getting it all to work and for building ur own monitor frames ect. I bet its a site to see in action. How much isk do your mining fleet make an hour just for lols?

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