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Racoome
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Posted - 2010.03.29 01:07:00 -
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Is there a benefit in keeping your BPO in constant copying and manufacturing from the copies? It seems reasonable but the copy times seem to exceed production times...if copying is the limiting factor than why bother?
-Racoome
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Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.29 01:42:00 -
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Copying time is almost always longer than the time it takes to manufacture the item. This is why the main reason for copying something is to do invention on said copies.
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Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.03.29 03:54:00 -
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 Originally by: Racoome
Is there a benefit in keeping your BPO in constant copying and manufacturing from the copies? It seems reasonable but the copy times seem to exceed production times...if copying is the limiting factor than why bother?
-Racoome
Sometimes if you want to keep your more expensive BPOs safe, you can transport BPCs into less safe space and manfacture from them. E.g. if you're manufacturing in a conquerable station/outpost and there's a risk that you won't be able to evacuate your BPOs if the station falls into enemy hands.
Generally though, you'd manufacture directly from your BPOs and copies would be used for invention.
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Gallente
Invicta.
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Posted - 2010.03.29 03:59:00 -
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As with everything it depends. Copies for stuff you'll need is a good idea if you are going to try living in 0.0 on your own, or wormholes. You can manufacture things you'll need at a pos while sleeping soundly knowing your BPO's will remain safe. Or for invention for sure. Resale value for copies for anything under capital ships have always seems rather meh to me, but you can look in to that.
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Maria Yumeno
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Posted - 2010.03.29 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Racoome
Is there a benefit in keeping your BPO in constant copying and manufacturing from the copies? It seems reasonable but the copy times seem to exceed production times...if copying is the limiting factor than why bother?
-Racoome
make multiple copies so you can manufacture on multiple lines while keeping your bpo in me research
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Kithran
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Posted - 2010.03.29 07:35:00 -
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The one main thing I've seen that really benefits from using copies to produce from is ammo - in the time it takes me to produce all 1500 runs from a max run bpc I can probably copy another 20.
Kithran
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ZeeOhSix
Blackwater Manufacturing and Logistics
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Posted - 2010.03.29 18:01:00 -
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Another case where you need to 'work the numbers' - as always.
I'm starting to do this in some cases to focus on items that are not only profitable on a per-item basis but also on a production time basis. I'm always surprised when I take a very holistic view of not only profitability but the time it takes to manufacture.
Let's say you have 4 slots, and 4 BPOs. BPO A generates like 60% profitiability/item, but you can only make 1000 in a week. BPO B generates maybe 30% profitability...but you can make 10,000/week if you copy the BPO.
In the end, it's about maximizing time, slots and profitability and there aren't any hard-and-fast rules...only endless spreadsheets 
I am hardly an expert; just learning...
The business of EVE is business!
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SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.03.29 18:06:00 -
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It depends. Just show info on the blueprint. If the copy time is faster per run than the manu time, you can benefit from copying it - especially if you're copying in an advanced lab (.65 time multiplier).
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House of Marbles
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Posted - 2010.03.30 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Horchan
Copying time is almost always longer than the time it takes to manufacture the item. This is why the main reason for copying something is to do invention on said copies.
Here are a few counterexamples.
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Mielono
Caldari
SWARTA
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Posted - 2010.03.30 16:04:00 -
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I can see it like this, you have a couple bpos all researched, you spend your time printing out copies for them watching the market. When the time comes that it is looking to be reasonably profitable for you to produce that item instead of only producing one you can pop out as many copies and slots that you have. Producing copies gives you the ability to parallel manufacture as well as leap onto market fluctuations quickly.
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ZeeOhSix
Blackwater Manufacturing and Logistics
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Posted - 2010.03.30 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mielono
Producing copies gives you the ability to parallel manufacture as well as leap onto market fluctuations quickly.
Exactly :) I recently made a killing (of sorts) by doing 6 parallel runs of a single item that was on the rise vs. my regular weekly runs.
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