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Mercurio Deus
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Posted - 2010.03.30 00:57:00 -
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What is the explanation behind the isolation of the wormhole systems from the regular network?
I mean there must have been some sort of way to get to them before the introduction of wormhole travel considering there are sleepers in these systems.
And what exactly are sleepers? Just the remnants or guardians of previous civilizations? Or real people?
Any and all insights into these questions are appreciated.
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2010.03.30 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Mercurio Deus What is the explanation behind the isolation of the wormhole systems from the regular network?
Nobody's built stargates there. Nobody even knows exactly where they are, in fact.
Quote: I mean there must have been some sort of way to get to them before the introduction of wormhole travel considering there are sleepers in these systems.
And what exactly are sleepers? Just the remnants or guardians of previous civilizations? Or real people?
The Sleepers themselves were a civilization from thousands of years prior to present-day EVE. the drones encountered in W-space are the remains of their society's automated defence and maintenance network. Exactly how and why they are only found in W-space isn't really known, but as for how they got there, they're known to use a kind of advanced jump drive even on their smallest ships which means they don't need to use wormholes or stargates to get around. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2010.03.31 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher
the drones encountered in W-space are the remains of their society's automated defence and maintenance network.
Some would disagree.
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Davin Forsosa
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.04.01 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reeth
Originally by: Stitcher
the drones encountered in W-space are the remains of their society's automated defence and maintenance network.
Some would disagree.
Can you elaborate on that? Are you suggesting that they ARE the the society that once existed? I hope not. They'd just be more sentient drones. Nothing mysterious.
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2010.04.01 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Davin Forsosa
Originally by: Mr Reeth
Originally by: Stitcher
the drones encountered in W-space are the remains of their society's automated defence and maintenance network.
Some would disagree.
Can you elaborate on that? Are you suggesting that they ARE the the society that once existed? I hope not. They'd just be more sentient drones. Nothing mysterious.
Some think, and I believe there is evidence to support this, that the sleeper ships are piloted. But they are piloted by a single captain and no crew, sort of a super pod pilot. But unlike us pod pilots these captains dont have a body in the ship but transfer their mind electronically. And that perhaps their bodies are in a long long long term stasis. Kill a drone and the mind pops into some kind of buffer waiting to be transferred to another ship.
The entire civilization may have been put into stasis and had their minds transferred into computers.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.01 12:39:00 -
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The Sleeper Ships seem to be only Drones. They protect ancient structures that have fallen apart long ago and do not even attempt to salvage or repair what is left of these places.
Also the ships AI seems to be a complex set of nodes and if one set of nodes fails for some reason, then other nodes take over the task. So yes, regarding AI development the Sleepers were far ahead to any of the current empires, perhaps even the Jovians, but I do not think that former human minds control these ships.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Creed Demastikus
House of Demastikus
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Posted - 2010.04.02 09:08:00 -
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some can say AI can be called a sentient being :) but in sleepers case they are just super ai but not sentients original sleepers didnt gave these drones "free will" kind "thing?" some even say our "drones" in normal space somehow connected these drones by "Great Hives" well its "players" idea nothing "official" ofc..
too bad CCP just forgot about WH space/ story line and giving nothing..
at the start there was lots of "npc corporations" doin (creadron etc) exploration on wh spaces even empires conduct some research but than BAM total silence
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2010.04.02 10:39:00 -
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The team responsible for writing that stuff consists of like five guys and a bunch of volunteers, who are also responsible for things like Epic missions, regular missions and so on. Staying on top of the demand for follow-up content on each player's pet storyline would involve far more effort than such a small team is able to give.
not to mention that two of them are now published authors. novels are time-consuming things to write, you know. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
Creed Demastikus
House of Demastikus
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Posted - 2010.04.02 17:55:00 -
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i can say tons of stuff about this but why bother ? Not worthy to debate
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.02 19:51:00 -
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I really enjoy a good discussion, but some rules regarding PF still apply. There is nothing about developing black spots in fiction, EVE has good number of them, but telling a story that contradicts part of the lore/background is not acceptable.
There is nothing in the sleeper drones ship description saying that it is pilotet by an AI, with a human consciousness. Developing PF is only CCP's job, as community in the fiction/summit or ingame we can only develop our stuff within these boundaries, but not break them.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Mephiston Lucius
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Posted - 2010.04.03 10:50:00 -
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the reason of "AI" guess is WH "mobs" usualy refer as "Drone" so if its a drone it cant be plotted by human/humanoid so it should be an AI :) i think its also in the official story /check eve-wiki p:
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LF9000
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Posted - 2010.04.14 21:44:00 -
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Wait, not to sound really dumb, but are sleeper "aliens" (like portrayed in the movies) or are they like "human aliens" (kind of like the Jove)? I love my companion cube. The cake is a lie. The cake is a lie. The cake is a lie. |
Mithfindel
Aseyakone
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Posted - 2010.04.15 09:58:00 -
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There's some ancient Sleeper stuff in... um, Minmatar COSMOS missions? As such, Sleepers are/were humans, as far as we know.
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Quick V
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Posted - 2010.04.25 23:39:00 -
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Day 331 in wormhole system. The voice is clearer now I understand now what the sleepers want it is what they have wanted all this time... My crew has begun the change it will not be long now.The corp mates that have be lost are fear dead just few of us left now.I think this will be my my last log for the time of the Sleepers draws closer.They have always been here waiting for more humans to come...
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H4rbringer
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Posted - 2010.05.02 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Quick V Day 331 in wormhole system. The voice is clearer now I understand now what the sleepers want it is what they have wanted all this time... My crew has begun the change it will not be long now.The corp mates that have be lost are fear dead just few of us left now.I think this will be my my last log for the time of the Sleepers draws closer.They have always been here waiting for more humans to come...
rofl:P
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Jack bubu
Lyonesse. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.02 17:19:00 -
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Considering that there are also Talocan ships (though empty) found in WH space, it comes to mind that maybe the Talocans either had an all out war with the Sleepers, or are the masters the sleeper drones still defend..
but i could be completly wrong
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