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ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.07.05 10:17:00 -
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Just a thought....
Jita, Rens, etc are the most wealthy systems in eve. They also have the highest traffic.
Would it not make sense to add more gates at trade hubs to other surrounding sytem not already directly connected?
And just to throw some real contoversy to the subject.... economically would you not build regional size gates to reach to further systems... maybe even... (dont hurt me) other trade hubs?
Your thoughts? - Nulla Curas |
Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
215
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Posted - 2012.07.05 10:28:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:Just a thought....
Jita, Rens, etc are the most wealthy systems in eve. They also have the highest traffic.
Would it not make sense to add more gates at trade hubs to other surrounding sytem not already directly connected?
And just to throw some real contoversy to the subject.... economically would you not build regional size gates to reach to further systems... maybe even... (dont hurt me) other trade hubs?
Your thoughts?
We had superhighways between regions before.
They were an unmitigated disaster. High sec was utterly dead when you went more than 3 jumps from any "hub", low-sec was even deader than it is now.
So no its not a good idea. |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
343
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Posted - 2012.07.05 10:31:00 -
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Othran wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Just a thought....
Jita, Rens, etc are the most wealthy systems in eve. They also have the highest traffic.
Would it not make sense to add more gates at trade hubs to other surrounding sytem not already directly connected?
And just to throw some real contoversy to the subject.... economically would you not build regional size gates to reach to further systems... maybe even... (dont hurt me) other trade hubs?
Your thoughts? We had superhighways between regions before. They were an unmitigated disaster. High sec was utterly dead when you went more than 3 jumps from any "hub", low-sec was even deader than it is now. So no its not a good idea. Nice reply in my opinion. I like.
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ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.07.05 10:35:00 -
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Othran wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Just a thought....
Jita, Rens, etc are the most wealthy systems in eve. They also have the highest traffic.
Would it not make sense to add more gates at trade hubs to other surrounding sytem not already directly connected?
And just to throw some real contoversy to the subject.... economically would you not build regional size gates to reach to further systems... maybe even... (dont hurt me) other trade hubs?
Your thoughts? We had superhighways between regions before. They were an unmitigated disaster. High sec was utterly dead when you went more than 3 jumps from any "hub", low-sec was even deader than it is now. So no its not a good idea.
To that arguement i would say to move incentive to the "outer regions" of high sec. Lv 4 mission agents away from the hubs for example? - Nulla Curas |
Carmizan
DOCS RUFF RIDERS IMPERIAL LEGI0N
15
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Posted - 2012.07.05 10:43:00 -
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What is more to the point is that CCP does not want to encourage more ppl into trade hubs. In fact they would rather there were no trade hubs such as Jita and Rens, but after the last attempt to remove a trade hub when it was Yuli CCP have done and will continue to leave the systems as they are, so they will not improve them in any way shape or form except to allow the system the cope with the high numbers of players in them. |
Wisdom Divine
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.07.05 10:44:00 -
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You really don't get it, do you |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8380
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Posted - 2012.07.05 10:50:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:Would it not make sense to add more gates at trade hubs to other surrounding sytem not already directly connected? To do what, exactly? What problem are you trying to solve? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.07.05 10:54:00 -
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Tippia wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Would it not make sense to add more gates at trade hubs to other surrounding sytem not already directly connected? To do what, exactly? What problem are you trying to solve?
Theres no problem. i was just thinking from a real world prospective (dangerous i know) that if a town becomes more popular has more traffic, more routes to said town are built. Nothing new like that has happened to eve that i know of. Just wondered if it would be worth it? - Nulla Curas |
Mark Androcius
95
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Posted - 2012.07.05 10:56:00 -
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CCP should just go ahead and kill all of Caldari space. Living in a wh myself and we NEVER have visitors, unless we have a wh to ANY part of Caldari space.
That piece of space is just WAY to popular, 5 times as many people in Jita as in Dodixie, is just ******** and actually tells you the whole story all in one go. If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong? |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
759
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Posted - 2012.07.05 10:58:00 -
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Tippia wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Would it not make sense to add more gates at trade hubs to other surrounding sytem not already directly connected? To do what, exactly? What problem are you trying to solve?
It's a stealth "nerf high sec" thread I believe. Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
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ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.07.05 10:59:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:Tippia wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Would it not make sense to add more gates at trade hubs to other surrounding sytem not already directly connected? To do what, exactly? What problem are you trying to solve? It's a stealth "nerf high sec" thread I believe.
So stealth not even i realised - Nulla Curas |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8380
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:00:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:Theres no problem. i was just thinking from a real world prospective (dangerous i know) that if a town becomes more popular has more traffic, more routes to said town are built. So there's no reason to do it, then, especially since they generally have more gates than other systems already (this being part of why they becames hubs in the first place).
So no, it doesn't make much sense GÇö they have what they need already and, if anything, they could probably be scaled back a bit. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:07:00 -
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Tippia wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Theres no problem. i was just thinking from a real world prospective (dangerous i know) that if a town becomes more popular has more traffic, more routes to said town are built. So there's no reason to do it, then, especially since they generally have more gates than other systems already (this being part of why they becames hubs in the first place). So no, it doesn't make much sense GÇö they have what they need already and, if anything, they could probably be scaled back a bit.
If you scaled back (for example) jita by a gate or two that would fudementaly change its usefulness. However if you add a gate you just make life easier for travelers. The trade hubs are already set up why not make it a little easier to get there? - Nulla Curas |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4047
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:17:00 -
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Remove all gates from Jita completely.
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1590
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:18:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:The trade hubs are already set up why not make it a little easier to get there?
It's easy enough as it is. Jita is no further than an hour on autopilot from any point in connected hisec. If you're actually in control of your ship, Jita is even closer. Then there are Jump Freighters which make JIta even closer, regardless of your starting location. Day 0 advice for new players: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=77176 |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
860
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:19:00 -
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New Eden needs to be made bigger not smaller. It is already too easy to cross the galaxy avoiding all risk in a very short time. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Private Pineapple
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
204
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:19:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Remove all gates from Jita completely.
CCP is bound by space law to listen to this man. I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum.
I am the rightful heir to the CSM 8 throne.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8380
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:24:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:If you scaled back (for example) jita by a gate or two that would fudementaly change its usefulness. Not really, no. Of the seven gates, only two are really high-traffic, and maybe two more sees any additional use. Travel is being made easier by the bypass the installed back in Empyrean Age (I think it was) so you don't have to go into the system to begin with. The same holds true for the other hubs: if you want to go inside them, they have more than enough gates; if you want to avoid them, there are easy routes around them.
Quote:The trade hubs are already set up why not make it a little easier to get there? Because it's already as easy as it needs to be GÇö if anything, it's a bit too easy, and everyone would probably be better served if the hubs lost a bit of their importance and traffic.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:26:00 -
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Cool well that all makes sense. Thanks for all the replys :D - Nulla Curas |
Rats
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:28:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:Othran wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Just a thought....
Jita, Rens, etc are the most wealthy systems in eve. They also have the highest traffic.
Would it not make sense to add more gates at trade hubs to other surrounding sytem not already directly connected?
And just to throw some real contoversy to the subject.... economically would you not build regional size gates to reach to further systems... maybe even... (dont hurt me) other trade hubs?
Your thoughts? We had superhighways between regions before. They were an unmitigated disaster. High sec was utterly dead when you went more than 3 jumps from any "hub", low-sec was even deader than it is now. So no its not a good idea. To that arguement i would say to move incentive to the "outer regions" of high sec. Lv 4 mission agents away from the hubs for example?
Er no.
Tal
-áI Fought the Law, and the Law Won... -áTalon Silverhawk-á |
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ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:31:00 -
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Rats wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Othran wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Just a thought....
Jita, Rens, etc are the most wealthy systems in eve. They also have the highest traffic.
Would it not make sense to add more gates at trade hubs to other surrounding sytem not already directly connected?
And just to throw some real contoversy to the subject.... economically would you not build regional size gates to reach to further systems... maybe even... (dont hurt me) other trade hubs?
Your thoughts? We had superhighways between regions before. They were an unmitigated disaster. High sec was utterly dead when you went more than 3 jumps from any "hub", low-sec was even deader than it is now. So no its not a good idea. To that arguement i would say to move incentive to the "outer regions" of high sec. Lv 4 mission agents away from the hubs for example? Er no. Tal
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Chr - Nulla Curas |
Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
215
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:33:00 -
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The classic example of how superhighways screw up the game is Rens<->Amarr.
Currently (from memory) its 20 hops or so via high-sec and 10 hops or so via low-sec. You can take a risk and save time or you can play it safe. Either way there is traffic through those systems.
So if you install a superhighway then you kill a LOT of systems stone-dead - apart from FW and occasional POS maintenance.
No use in going on about moving agents either - people moan enough about travel time to agents now.
Its a terrible idea. |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
176
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:47:00 -
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Othran wrote:The classic example of how superhighways screw up the game is Rens<->Amarr.
Currently (from memory) its 20 hops or so via high-sec and 10 hops or so via low-sec. You can take a risk and save time or you can play it safe. Either way there is traffic through those systems.
So if you install a superhighway then you kill a LOT of systems stone-dead - apart from FW and occasional POS maintenance.
No use in going on about moving agents either - people moan enough about travel time to agents now.
Its a terrible idea.
Now theres an answer better than just "no" - Nulla Curas |
Feckfor Rufard
Deadwood Reserrection Persona Non Gratis
1
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:51:00 -
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how about a gate with a random null sec desto from jita...picture the opportunitys and that lawls |
Mark Androcius
95
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:53:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:If you scaled back (for example) jita by a gate or two that would fudementaly change its usefulness. However if you add a gate you just make life easier for travelers. The trade hubs are already set up why not make it a little easier to get there?
Fundamentally changing Jita's usefulness would be perfect actually, making it more useful, would ruin it even faster in the long run. If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong? |
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
120
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Posted - 2012.07.05 13:51:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Remove all gates from Jita completely.
I second this motion. |
Barakach
R-ISK Shadow Operations.
68
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Posted - 2012.07.05 14:10:00 -
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Trade hubs are organically created, but CCP does not want to encourage anything. Adding extra gates to speed trading among the major hubs just means that CCP wants to give these systems special treatment, which is against the whole sandbox/organic philosophy. |
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