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EdwardNardella
Capital Construction Research
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Posted - 2010.04.05 21:21:00 -
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By voting for this proposal you are endorsing the removal of any bookmarks that are not <15AU from any celestial object within the confines of all celestial objects in a system.
This proposal is a counterproposal to the impliementation of a feature allowing any pilot to create safe spots that do not fall within the aforementioned rules.
If this were to take place I think bookmarks to deep safe spots which have something within 1000KM (can, ship, drone and such) should be excluded. And should automatically be deleted once something is not on that grid.
If you are against this proposal you should vote for this other proposal: Implement a mechanic to allow creation of deep safe spots http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1297223 CCRES is recruiting pilots who want to live in WSpace/Wormholes. Fill out an application here! |
Brian O'Blivion
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Posted - 2010.04.07 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Brian O''Blivion on 07/04/2010 15:51:25 I already posted in support of your other thread, but really I think that whether or not CCP chooses to implement a way to create deep safespots, all the currently existing ones should be deleted. If they do "legalize" deep safes, this will mantain the balance in the years (yes, I do expect it would take years :p) it'll take them to create an alternative method, if they don't, I think the reason why the old ones shouldn't exist is self-evident. However, I don't really belive CCP will do anything about it, so I just hope that someone will find a new "exploit" to make deep safes soon :( |
Matalino
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Posted - 2010.04.07 16:09:00 -
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15AU is not deep. Try >260AU for a meaningfully deep safe spot.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2010.04.08 10:25:00 -
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I think they should be removed yes. I like using them, but, it really is rather unfair for newer players who can't make their own anymore.
Excluding those with stuff dumped at them is a no-go. You left stuff in deep space, that's too bad. Do it like with the secure can removal: give a notice, a brief time to go collect, and then delete them all.
Otherwise peeps would just go dump a shuttle or can at some of them, and retain their advantage indefinitely.
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Mashie Saldana
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.04.08 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: EdwardNardella By voting for this proposal you are endorsing the removal of any bookmarks that are not <15AU from any celestial object within the confines of all celestial objects in a system.
Supported but make that 20AU as if you have a mission agent at the planet furthest away from the sun they will be at that range if sent off in a lucky direction.
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King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.04.08 19:44:00 -
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It's fair, I made a 270au deep safe yesterday. Not supported.
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FlameGlow
Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.08 20:46:00 -
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Not being able to do something anymore doesn't mean it is going to be removed or needs to be removed. See T2 BPO or highsec capitals
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.04.08 20:57:00 -
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Safespots need to be findable using combat probes so if any "hard ceiling" is to be used it should be 64AU, which is the limit of their reach.
One can only hope that when the insta-deep-safe gimmick is killed off in next expansion (read: log-off thread in Test forum) CCP removes the ludicrous ones at the same time.
They did purge deeps previously, a few years ago, but we always find new ways to create them so the precedent is there.
PS: Comparing it to removal of high-sec capitals and the lottery does not really make sense unless you have some way of duping a carrier or BPO
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2010.04.08 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: Jin Nib on 08/04/2010 21:20:03 You realize that you can make "normal" safespots in many systems that are greater then 15 or 20 au from the nearest celestial. If you are in habit of bookmarking missions as well you could easily end up outside of that range as well. I guess lets just ditch all the large systems and make warp speed totally meaningless.
Edit: Both of your proposals are stupid BTW. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
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King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.04.08 21:22:00 -
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One more thing, anyone here ever hear of deep space probes? They are designed specifically for probing out those in deep safe spots. They don't have their old 1000 au range but it's still crazy far.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2010.04.08 23:48:00 -
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Not supported.
No reason Why is given.
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