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Manfred Sideous
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.13 20:50:00 -
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It is with great displeasure that I have to bid you a cultural victory sir. It seems that your steadfast strategy to hold to your principals has prevailed. Today AAA have succumbed to Roleplay. I congratulate you sir on your hard fought Victory!!
Proof of our defeat
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2010.04.13 20:53:00 -
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Is this more talk about that place no none who matters really cares about?
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Pradege D'Hallur
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.13 20:54:00 -
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[URL=http://img228.imageshack.us/i/20100413192134.png/][/URL]
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CONQUERINGAZ
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.13 20:54:00 -
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Roleplaying unites the alliance and builds morale, as you can see, we have grown from the tough ordeal we have gone through.
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Lilly Tigress
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.13 20:55:00 -
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i am pleased of this conclusion and herefore can say. all hail our minmatar overlords
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mineswallower
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.13 20:57:00 -
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Edited by: mineswallower on 13/04/2010 20:57:14 A Mini only force taking the Mini station back from the Amarr "overloads"....lol
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Delenarious
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.13 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Delenarious on 13/04/2010 21:00:28 http://de.xfire.com/video/27d24d/
3 mil for every non-rusty ship you find on this video.
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Borza Slavak
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.13 21:03:00 -
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We came for our people, with our allies AAA.
This marks the end of Amarrian expansion into Providence. At least, for now.
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Kir Laeda
Caldari Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.13 21:10:00 -
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MATAR PAWA I'm no hero. Never was. I'm just an old killer... Hired to do some wet work. Old Snake.
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Grr
Amarr Epitoth Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.13 21:13:00 -
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Most of these posts reported. Please read the rules of this forum when you get a chance.
Ushra'Khan should know better posting here.
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DNLeviathan
Caldari Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.13 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Delenarious Edited by: Delenarious on 13/04/2010 21:00:28 http://de.xfire.com/video/27d24d/
3 mil for every non-rusty ship you find on this video.
lol , there were NON
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Black Necris
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.13 21:23:00 -
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This day, the flock of The New and Improved Church of Providence, claimed an outstanding victory against the heathens from the false Church of Providence, their leaders, Aralis and his band of non belivers, now lie crushed and at the feet of the Minmatar power.
For this news, Black Necris, new appointed Archbishop of the New and Improved Church of Providence (NICHOP) congratulate all those involved in this victory.
This Sunday ceremony will be even more special than planned, since from today, we can all celebrate a Providence free of CVA.
His Beatitude, most reverend eminence Archbishop Black Necris
"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." |
Stratio
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.13 21:24:00 -
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No more CVA stations in Provi!
Much respect to AAA !
Grr, you must try this roleplay one day, it is fun. Sometimes I like to pretend that I am not really in space but on a planet.
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Poreuomai's Spokesman For Tribe and Honour! |
Roderigo Borgia
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.13 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Grr Most of these posts reported. Please read the rules of this forum when you get a chance.
Ushra'Khan should know better posting here.
bitter much?
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Irongut
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.13 21:45:00 -
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We came, we saw, we burned!
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2010.04.13 21:56:00 -
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When can agents of Practical Caldari enterprises, and other interested entities, expect a consolidated infrastructure such that regular commerce may resume? On a related note, how much longer can Practical Caldari enterprises, and other interested entities, expect to continue exploiting profits brought on by war profiteering?
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Roderigo Borgia
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.13 22:08:00 -
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New Providence is no longer a really suitable region for the activities that used to be so prevalent in old providence, no it is now soon to be a melting pot of 3,4 maybe even 5 or more way battles! ITS GRRRRRRRREAT! Some areas may be safer than others and war profiteering should continue as long as people keep getting blown up.
However gone are the days where CVA (Evil mind controlling Overlords) will come and protect you from freedom fighters and anarchists or the plain old blood thirsty, so if you intend operating in the area you must now look to yourself for protection.
Enjoy New Providence!
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Syyl'ara
Gallente Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2010.04.13 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Roderigo Borgia New Providence is no longer a really suitable region for the activities that used to be so prevalent in old providence
Some of us were saying this weeks ago, at the time AAA was denying this would be the case.
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Roderigo Borgia
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.13 22:42:00 -
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really? whole point was to put a load of random alliances into providence we certainly never offered any kind of infrastructure or protection - if all the alliances want to group up into one big blue blob nothing stopping them but think the new residents are less focused on mining to be honest
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MyHonIa
Assisted Genocide
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Posted - 2010.04.13 23:17:00 -
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Gaia Aemilia
Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2010.04.14 00:07:00 -
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Note to the CVA: never rely on a Caldari, Gallente or Minmatar to do an Amarrian's job. My suggestion would be, kick the slaves and work with your Amarrian brothers to reclaim Providence. Only the Chosen Ones can create God's Empire.
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Dame Death
Minmatar Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.14 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gaia Aemilia Note to the CVA: never rely on a Caldari, Gallente or Minmatar to do an Amarrian's job. My suggestion would be, kick the slaves and work with your Amarrian brothers to reclaim Providence. Only the Chosen Ones can create God's Empire.
Thing bout pure Amarr fleets is you cant rep pos's so by all means do this.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Ammatar Free Corps Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 00:40:00 -
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One day you will be eaten alive.
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Claudine Laurent
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2010.04.14 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo One day you will be eaten alive.
Who will get eaten alive?
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Gorion Wassenar
Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.04.14 01:08:00 -
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Another red-letter day for the holoreels. ----- *results may vary*
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Vlad Cetes
Caldari H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.14 01:12:00 -
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All hail Emperor Manfred. -A- victor.
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Stardrifter1979
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.14 02:25:00 -
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Out with the old, in with the new.
Flawless Victory
Fight hard, Fight noble |
Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: Stardrifter1979 Out with the old, in with the new.
Indeed. Now enjoy your little ant farm guys...
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Jan VanRijkdom
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Posted - 2010.04.14 05:14:00 -
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Good Job guys, it was about time those stuffy pompous Amarrian Slaveholders were kicked to the curb haha. *high fives AAA*
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Pimpertron
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Posted - 2010.04.14 06:36:00 -
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One of the biggest alliances in EVE crushes a few smaller entities and you come here chest beating? You should be hanging your heads in shame. Did you know there is a real war going on up north? while the other super powers are slugging it out your down in Providance playing the big fish in a small pond.
Your like a grown up on the school playground who is scared of going out and facing people in the big bad world.
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Mnement'h
Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.14 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Pimpertron One of the biggest alliances in EVE crushes a few smaller entities and you come here chest beating? You should be hanging your heads in shame. Did you know there is a real war going on up north? while the other super powers are slugging it out your down in Providance playing the big fish in a small pond.
Your like a grown up on the school playground who is scared of going out and facing people in the big bad world.
It's called being thorough and keeping true to threats made. We said we wouldn't stop until CVA is out of providence ... we held our word and now we can have fun in regions where the enemy actually fights with more than hollow words. BTW at the start of the conflict the provi block had a few thousand pilots more than we had ... too bad they hadn't thought about what it takes to keep those pilots in ships before they took us on.
Big kudos to U'K ... they might not have the same firepower as -A- but they have the same determination and willpower to see Provi purged of CVA too proud for it's own good. In my book U'K was a very equal entity in this operation and all the folks dissing them could learn a thing or two from them. Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
Entilzah Valen
H A V O C
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Posted - 2010.04.14 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Pimpertron
Your like a grown up on the school playground who is scared of going out and facing people in the big bad world.
Hey, I like sand and swings and see-saws. Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
It took you 8 months to do this. GJ. - EV |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.14 07:20:00 -
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Minmatar power, galaxy-wide!
CSM Iceland meeting minutes - READ THEM :D |
Iteken Hotori
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.14 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: Syyl'ara Some of us were saying this weeks ago, at the time AAA was denying this would be the case.
Stop putting words into people's mouths. No longer will entities be beholden to slavers. Forced to pay rent to maintain stations. Forced to maintain false lists of innocents to slaughter with draeks and Hulks. This is the dawn of a new age. The age of weakness, capitulation and cowardice is over.
Death to the Amarr. <3 Manny
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Karn Mithralia
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.14 07:56:00 -
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220 of Minmatars finest, proud I was to see Ushra'Khan in the majority. Is it the largest capsuleer fleet of none but Matari ships ever assembled?
25 Outposts taken in as many days, a record?
40 systems burnt to the ground, tales to share with our kin around the fires.
A region taken from the slavers and given to those who fear not to stand on their own feet as free men.
Quietly did this milestone pass, but pass it did. Why? Dedidication, perseverance, endurance and will. You laid the cards of boring us to death on the table Aralis, and you failed. Utterly.
We go on, for our people.
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Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 08:31:00 -
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Well, I suppose the Ushra'Khan pilots can now retire in peace as their work is done and the new great ant farm is established. I can imagine they are all looking forward to rest and peace and quiet. There certainly seems to be plenty of that in the new providence.
I hope you all enjoy the peace and quiet you have achieved in the area. It certainly appears very tranquil.
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.04.14 09:03:00 -
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A region taken from slavers and given back to the very same pilots who ignored the screams of slaves while they were out making isk. ---
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Tyrael Primus
Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.04.14 09:15:00 -
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I lost a few good clones to this conflict; hats and related headgear off to Karn and his merry band of Minmatar.
It may be prohibitively expensive to import slaves from the Empire. How will I satisfy my refined tastes?
And now to dream of Golden Fleets...
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Karn Mithralia
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.14 09:49:00 -
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Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 14/04/2010 09:49:53
Originally by: Suitonia A region taken from slavers and given back to the very same pilots who ignored the screams of slaves while they were out making isk.
Poor intel does not a bright Suitonia make.
The majority (by a Gallente mile) are new residents, hard to find a slaver among them. Sure there's individuals, if found they'll be dealt with. Fact is though, the majority have gone.
Dimish our victory if you will ex-Sev3rance pilot, but its milestones stand. History has been made here.
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Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Karn Mithralia Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 14/04/2010 09:49:53
Originally by: Suitonia A region taken from slavers and given back to the very same pilots who ignored the screams of slaves while they were out making isk.
Poor intel does not a bright Suitonia make.
The majority (by a Gallente mile) are new residents, hard to find a slaver among them. Sure there's individuals, if found they'll be dealt with. Fact is though, the majority have gone.
Dimish our victory if you will ex-Sev3rance pilot, but its milestones stand. History has been made here.
History perhaps, but it was not really an Ushra'Khan victory was it. I know that has to sour the taste a little.
But it is done, and what a wonderful place you now have. Daisho seem like such wonderful neighbours. I am sure you will have such fun mining there together.
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Karn Mithralia
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.14 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 14/04/2010 10:10:52
You still appear to be labor under the mis-aprehension I give a toss what you think Xina.
You comments are laughable at best and the bitter words of the defeated at worst.
Read my public posts on matters in Providence and you will read clearly the utmost respect and gratitude I give to our allies and friends AAA, for without them we would not be here today. That is as plain as the nose on my face.
However it does nothing to diminish Ushra'Khans part in it, and while you may have not seen us much in Sev3rance space while you skulked there, even the most token glance at the records will show us heavily involved through-out the entire campaign.
I'd link you the records but it breaks this forums rules, so you will have to educate yourself.
Go on, throw another ludicrous taunt a me, cos one things for sure, that's all you are capable of. That and suiciding slaves for your own pathetic agenda.
Your leadership I can respect, indeed I remain on civil terms with. You however are worse than a barking monkey, you lack its back-bone for one, and your bum isn't the right shade of red.
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.04.14 10:11:00 -
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There are new alliances indeed. However, 50% of Aegis Miltia is now in Ushra'Khan, or the new alliance they created which resides in their old space. Paxton Federation has been largely unchanged, and now is a welcomed guest. Several pilots whom I have seen while spending 3 and a half years flying and fighting the slavers in Providence are now residing here, as welcomed guests when in many cases, less than 3 months ago they were all in full support of the CVA Flag. Several of the Sylph Friendly alliances like Twilight Federation .
I would hardly call this "poor intel". It seems many of the current residents, particularly in southern providence, are ex-slavers or a new alliance filled with ex-slaver corps. I hope these new capsuleers see the delights of freedom, rather than throwing it to the dogs when the region isn't quite so lucrative. I suppose one great thing about your new providence is that people aren't held back for their past actions, and all have another chance.
Congratulations on the victory anyway, a milestone in the history of freedom.
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Lightzy
Cult of the Spinning Meat
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Posted - 2010.04.14 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Pimpertron One of the biggest alliances in EVE crushes a few smaller entities and you come here chest beating? You should be hanging your heads in shame. Did you know there is a real war going on up north? while the other super powers are slugging it out your down in Providance playing the big fish in a small pond.
Your like a grown up on the school playground who is scared of going out and facing people in the big bad world.
Cu@empire cva pet
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Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Karn Mithralia Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 14/04/2010 10:10:52
You still appear to be labor under the mis-aprehension I give a toss what you think Xina.
You comments are laughable at best and the bitter words of the defeated at worst.
Read my public posts on matters in Providence and you will read clearly the utmost respect and gratitude I give to our allies and friends AAA, for without them we would not be here today. That is as plain as the nose on my face.
However it does nothing to diminish Ushra'Khans part in it, and while you may have not seen us much in Sev3rance space while you skulked there, even the most token glance at the records will show us heavily involved through-out the entire campaign.
I'd link you the records but it breaks this forums rules, so you will have to educate yourself.
Go on, throw another ludicrous taunt a me, cos one things for sure, that's all you are capable of. That and suiciding slaves for your own pathetic agenda.
Your leadership I can respect, indeed I remain on civil terms with. You however are worse than a barking monkey, you lack its back-bone for one, and your bum isn't the right shade of red.
Oh dear. For the victorious here you seem very angry. And I have no idea about any suicidal slaves.
Come now, I would think you would be happy after such a great victory. You have your providence, all the slaves that you say were there are freed surely. All is well. You have a great peaceful system and wonderful new nneighbours. I have flown this space recently, and I saw no conflict and a great quiet peaceful emptiness. It was very relaxing.
And yet this anger. Something seems amiss here.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.14 10:48:00 -
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Xina, I found a photograph on the wall of KPB station. It was you, receiving a medal for 'Services to Industry'.
I burnt it.
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Karn Mithralia
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.14 10:49:00 -
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No not angry, quite the opposite. The warm glow of success after a long and tedious period of hard work.
I'm just in the mood for flinging insults, its how we Minmatar celebrate.
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Randall Alba
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.04.14 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Suitonia Paxton Federation has been largely unchanged, and now is a welcomed guest.
Paxton Federation has had no dealings with either -A-, Ushra'Khan or any of the recently arrived alliances.
All who have occupied territory and stations formerly held by the Holders are considered hostile and will be treated as such.
The decision taken by -A- to end their campaign without renewing the attack on Paxton Federation sovereign space was as much a surprise to us as everyone else. Had they continued we would have fought to the best of our ability but defeat would have been almost certain with the forces arrayed against us.
Perhaps now with our interesting new neighbours we can see a realistic comparison between the different interpretations of NRDS. That is of course assuming any neutral will be fortunate enough to survive the trip to our little corner of Providence.
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Major Templar
Caldari KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 11:11:00 -
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Congrats to all those involved. While it was not one alliance that did this, it was a coalition that took up the task and did what they set out.
To all those who fought for their space, good show and good fights. To those who ran, hid, or chose to flip sides at the start or before they lost their space, I say you are cowards and may you burn and never be cloned again.
I would like to say that space comes, space goes but as long as alliances never forget who they are and remain loyal to their friends, they will never truly lose their selves. Space does not define an alliance.
To all pilots, I say live long, stay strong, and never forget to update your clone and insure your ship.
Major Templar
PS. No ill will towards anyone. But if you are fighting against me, I will own your corpse one day.
Major Templar Head of Armed Forces Kings Of Eden Sev3rance |
Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog Xina, I found a photograph on the wall of KPB station. It was you, receiving a medal for 'Services to Industry'.
I burnt it.
Highly unlikely. I don't think I ever spent more than a few minutes in the station at any one time. Indeed it appears you have already spent more time than than I ever did.
I have been largely a creature of space since I first launched there, and I was one who came quickly to a space not patrolled by CONCORD. And by quickly I mean a matter of hours rather than days.
I have always found outposts somhow confining after discovering the joy of the great empty darkness. And I have no need of medals, thank you. So burn as you will. But I have heard the fire control systems in outposts are quite effective... And very wet.
So take care now.
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Katash Mongro
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Posted - 2010.04.14 11:36:00 -
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Congrats you blew up some of the least organized youngling carebear p***ies in the game.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows where the real fight in EVE is right now.
The NC is completely stonewalling the SC. Quite frankly you would be completely useless in the north against an even vaguely competent spaceholding enemy.
This "accomplishment" is a f****ng joke.
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Wotlankor
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.14 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Katash Mongro Congrats you blew up some of the least organized youngling carebear p***ies in the game.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows where the real fight in EVE is right now.
The NC is completely stonewalling the SC. Quite frankly you would be completely useless in the north against an even vaguely competent spaceholding enemy.
This "accomplishment" is a f****ng joke.
I think you mistake the esteemed GalNet for some other filthy broadcast channel where you usualy reside?
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Josef Huffenpuff
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.04.14 12:11:00 -
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Burn;
To consume with fire; to reduce to ashes by the action of heat or fire; -- frequently intensified by up: as, to burn up wood. "We'll burn his body in the holy place." --Shakespeare
To our Allies Ushra'khan, it has been a pleasure to fight along side you. To those of you who followed Aralis and lost everything - sorry, it was nothing personal. To Aralis, Which part of "Burn" did you not understand? Goodbye
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Wotlankor
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.14 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Randall Alba
Originally by: Suitonia Paxton Federation has been largely unchanged, and now is a welcomed guest.
Paxton Federation has had no dealings with either -A-, Ushra'Khan or any of the recently arrived alliances.
Just goes to show how ill informed the ramblings of Suitonia are. PXF is a respected enemy that will taste our autocannons. Im not sure PXF has even approached us for terms of surrender as opposed to many other holder alliances...
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Tyrael Primus
Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.04.14 13:01:00 -
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Oh god I had to fix my pod drainage mechanism today myself. Where are my man-servants? Who will hand polish my fleet to a rich golden luster!?
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mineswallower
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.14 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Major Templar Congrats to all those involved. While it was not one alliance that did this, it was a coalition that took up the task and did what they set out.
To all those who fought for their space, good show and good fights. To those who ran, hid, or chose to flip sides at the start or before they lost their space, I say you are cowards and may you burn and never be cloned again.
I would like to say that space comes, space goes but as long as alliances never forget who they are and remain loyal to their friends, they will never truly lose their selves. Space does not define an alliance.
To all pilots, I say live long, stay strong, and never forget to update your clone and insure your ship.
Major Templar
PS. No ill will towards anyone. But if you are fighting against me, I will own your corpse one day.
I agree with this post, well said and well put.
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Randall Alba
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.04.14 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Wotlankor
Originally by: Randall Alba
Originally by: Suitonia Paxton Federation has been largely unchanged, and now is a welcomed guest.
Paxton Federation has had no dealings with either -A-, Ushra'Khan or any of the recently arrived alliances.
Just goes to show how ill informed the ramblings of Suitonia are. PXF is a respected enemy that will taste our autocannons. Im not sure PXF has even approached us for terms of surrender as opposed to many other holder alliances...
As I already stated there has been no contact between PXF and any of the invading forces.
We were contacted by -A- when they made their offer to CVA and we rejected the approach.
Since that time my only contact has been a short chat with a couple of U'K and -A- pilots who were in a planetside hostelry I visited recently for a meeting of capsuleers.
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Emeline Cabernet
Amarr Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.
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Posted - 2010.04.14 13:36:00 -
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Angel hulls counts as minmatar?
Never thought Id see the day where no station in providence has a CVA tag.
Are all friends in providence now except paxton?
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El Torrent
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.04.14 14:05:00 -
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So, it looks like I after all no need to look for another retirement home. This is good, because I started to like my current one.
On the deals issue. We made no deals with anyone. When this first started, our nice -A- neighbours who we enjoyed so long to play wargames with offered to go back to the status quo, but had strings attached, that where not acceptable for us, and our future goals and objectives. So it got declined.
Later on, the dishonorable and treacherous LFA wanted to talk us into some silliness, that's not even worth mentioning. They tried that a few times with different arguments to accept what ever kind of silly stuff. Treachers they are, being the strongest voice to actually start it, laughed at my warnings that provibloc obviously is not ready for it, and then being worthless pussies when it got though. Those offers of course also got all declined.
Anyway. No Deals were made, our goals and objectives are still the same, we just now have more people to shoot at. Interesting times ahead for little paxton, but that's not the first time, as some of you may remember.
Paxton never gives up.
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Catualda
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Edited by: Catualda on 14/04/2010 14:13:59 wrong post
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Nefher Zhila
Amarr Khanid Provincial Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.04.14 14:24:00 -
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So, if I understand correctly UshraÆkhan and his puppet master destroyed what was once the only 0.0 space that allowed free trade, the presence of neutrals to do their business with relative ease and supportà and replaced it with a space shooting target practice.
Well, wellàif UshraÆkhan still has the face to defy their terrorist tendencies, their sole interest for personal gain and nothing more than war for war, I would really be interested in listening (although I presume IÆam just a no one without the right to an answer in your eyes).
ItÆs so easy to destroy, and UshraÆkhan apparently doesnÆt grasp the concept of building, a bit like the anarchists from star fraction hypocrites (and no, I donÆt mean ôbuildingö as in stations like the unity station you built several years ago, thatÆs just infrastructure, try pulling a bit more grid from your energy cells).
Many congratulations on turning a reasonably peaceful area into a melting pot of death and destruction, may your puppet master never twitch his eyes your way...
Khanid Victor. Proud servant of Khagan Khanid II.
Khanid Loyalist, also loyal to the Amarrian empire. Former member of the 13th Royal Khanid Regulars. |
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Iteken Hotori
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.14 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Nefher Zhila So, if I understand correctly UshraÆkhan and his puppet master destroyed what was once the only 0.0 space that allowed free trade, the presence of neutrals to do their business with relative ease and supportà
No offence intended, but you obviously understand little. There was no "free trade" there was capitulation and slavery. Many could not dock, or trade in that region after being falsely accused of piracy by Sev3rence pilots. After making simple mistakes, or by transgressing one of many minor laws. Entities in the area were not free to set standings. Pilots were not free to carry out their tasks. Each and every pilot was cowed into submission of Aralis' will by a rigid society designed to make the rich richer and the poor exhausted.
CVA has been put out of Other People's Misery.
I look forward to seeing Paxton on the battlefield again, and again. They showed what it is to fight for your homeland, rather than fleeing like cowards with pockets lined with gold, telling lies of "returning to fight another day".
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Merdaneth
Amarr Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2010.04.14 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Iteken Hotori No offence intended, but you obviously understand little. There was no "free trade" there was capitulation and slavery. Many could not dock, or trade in that region after being falsely accused of piracy by Sev3rence pilots. After making simple mistakes, or by transgressing one of many minor laws.
I guess the current situation where you cannot dock at all and are shot at without having transgressed any laws simply because you didn't bow to the new masters is preferable to you?
Perhaps this is why systems previously brimming with industrial activity are now silent and empty?
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.04.14 15:10:00 -
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A momentous day. The old order of Amarrian loyalists swept from their unearned thrones and cast back into their degenerate Empire, while a dozen suns rise on a new Providence. This is something I can drink to. -----
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Nefher Zhila
Amarr Khanid Provincial Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.04.14 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Iteken Hotori
Originally by: Nefher Zhila So, if I understand correctly UshraÆkhan and his puppet master destroyed what was once the only 0.0 space that allowed free trade, the presence of neutrals to do their business with relative ease and supportà
No offence intended, but you obviously understand little. There was no "free trade" there was capitulation and slavery. Many could not dock, or trade in that region after being falsely accused of piracy by Sev3rence pilots. After making simple mistakes, or by transgressing one of many minor laws. Entities in the area were not free to set standings. Pilots were not free to carry out their tasks. Each and every pilot was cowed into submission of Aralis' will by a rigid society designed to make the rich richer and the poor exhausted.
CVA has been put out of Other People's Misery.
I look forward to seeing Paxton on the battlefield again, and again. They showed what it is to fight for your homeland, rather than fleeing like cowards with pockets lined with gold, telling lies of "returning to fight another day".
http://i44.tinypic.com/oitz47.jpg
Well, even if your allegations are true, in what way is the present situation even remotely better than the one you alleged? Seems to me there wonÆt be much concern for that anymore, as anything not on your terms will simply be put to death in the fastest way possible.
Given this facts I stand by the personal assumption that you and your puppet are nothing more than destroyers who look for nothing else than the pleasure of seeing debris floating in space, at least AAA is somewhat honest in this, UshraÆKhan on the other hand still hides with full hypocrisy under an ancient concept (this concept being honorable or not isnÆt the issue) that they clearly have no feeling for, the ôwe come for our peopleö that turned into ôWe come for our iskö.
It will be a pleasure seeing the delusional UshraÆkhan crumble under the weight of the Isk mongers who pushed terrorism beyond guns to the financial arena.
Khanid Loyalist, also loyal to the Amarrian empire. Former member of the 13th Royal Khanid Regulars. |
Borza Slavak
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.14 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth
I guess the current situation where you cannot dock at all and are shot at without having transgressed any laws simply because you didn't bow to the new masters is preferable to you?
Perhaps this is why systems previously brimming with industrial activity are now silent and empty?
Exactly how what kind of window are you giving 'business as normal' to recommence before dismissing it as never going to happen? Minutes? Hours?
Amarrian propaganda is so obvious...
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foksieloy
Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.14 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Xina Tutor History perhaps, but it was not really an Ushra'Khan victory was it. I know that has to sour the taste a little.
It makes it all the sweeter. Knowing we have found true friends in Against All Authorities is the true victory here.
Compared to that, CVA being evicted feels like mere collateral. _______________________ We come for our people! |
Merdaneth
Amarr Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2010.04.14 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Borza Slavak
Exactly how what kind of window are you giving 'business as normal' to recommence before dismissing it as never going to happen? Minutes? Hours?
You tell me. I haven't heard of any timetables, I merely notice many new residents and new policies (and conflicts about them) already springing up.
As far as I'm concerned UK is under no obligation to improve the docking and security situation in Providence. ____
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Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: foksieloy
Originally by: Xina Tutor History perhaps, but it was not really an Ushra'Khan victory was it. I know that has to sour the taste a little.
It makes it all the sweeter. Knowing we have found true friends in Against All Authorities is the true victory here.
Compared to that, CVA being evicted feels like mere collateral.
Well yes, I am certain that it helps to pretend that Against All Authorities cares anything about your cause at all.
But of course we know why they really attacked, and it has far more to do with ego and a touch of fear that a small alliance might one day threaten their borders while they were otherwise occupied in other conflicts.
But Dream on your sweet dreams. I hope they are not soon a nightmare for you.
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Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.14 19:06:00 -
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Hows the north xina? do they care about you or do they just see fodder to be thrown at the attackers? |
Mnement'h
Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.14 19:35:00 -
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All those crying about the loss of the only 'noob-friendly' region in EvE might want to think back and ask them selves why that same regions 'holders' decided to expand into the only space they knew was gonna bring them nothing but pain.
You can spin this any way you want but the bottom line is CVA and the Holders pulled the first punch and they lost that fight. A looser doesn't decide the terms of the peace offer that is made after the fight. They chose to sacrifice the entire region to uphold their 'zealot pride'. CVA / LFA hit first and -A- bloodied their nose in D-G and offered them to run while they still have legs to run on ... CVA decided to 'be proud and make a stand against the big bad bully (-B-) kid' by shoving all the other kids at him and his friends while they them selves ran as fast and as far away from the fight as they could, yelling "we'll be back when you get bored of our playground!". Some of the kids fought valiantly, some scattered, some got beaten to a pulp, and some screamed "don't hit us please we are not with them any more!".
When someone has a go at you, you make sure he never ever gets the opportunity to do so again. If you think otherwise you are not fit to be in the .0 playground in the first place. So suck it up and go with the flow.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
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Sgt Jinxed
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.14 20:15:00 -
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We come for our people!
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.14 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mnement'h
You can spin this any way you want but the bottom line is CVA and the Holders pulled the first punch
Unless you count -A-'s regular raids into Providence or their support of the CVA's oldest enemy.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Xennith Hows the north xina? do they care about you or do they just see fodder to be thrown at the attackers?
Well I am fodder in any case, as are all front line pilots, so that is hardly and issue either way. I feel no more or less as fodder than I have ever done.
But the north has indeed be most welcoming and our goals are much the same. Since I live in space, any space is somehow much the same as any other, but this is somehow very nice dark space. And the pilots are a joy to fly alongside.
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Mnement'h
Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.14 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Mnement'h
You can spin this any way you want but the bottom line is CVA and the Holders pulled the first punch
Unless you count -A-'s regular raids into Providence or their support of the CVA's oldest enemy.
Oh I guess all those Paxton, Sev3rance, CVA etc. fleets you could see in HED and GE- on almost a daily basis were just friendly sightseeing tours. The Provi vs. -A- skirmish has lasted for years, even before U'K was blue to -A- or had any stations in Catch.
Get of the high horse and smell the really bad excuse for a failed expansionist campaign that backfired and dragged the entire region into a conflict everyone knew was going to end this way.
People keep saying CVA had no choice ... noone would take them serious if they accepted the peace offer ... Who would take -A- serious if we let an invasion attempt just slide without repercussions ? One that was publicly announced with all the e-peen Aralis could muster into words.
Starting the SOV game was entirely CVA's fault and all the holders payed for it. It's that simple. And now Providence has new residents and they all know what happens if you play the SOV game in catch / providence.
Eve is a sandbox ... and sometimes the big kid will step on your castle and there is nothing you can do about it but complain how unfair it all is on Galnet ... but not everyone will agree with you ... especially the thousands of pilots who now have a new home in Providence. Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Mnement'h
You can spin this any way you want but the bottom line is CVA and the Holders pulled the first punch
Unless you count -A-'s regular raids into Providence or their support of the CVA's oldest enemy.
Well neven more than that really. It was -A- who first attacked sovreignty. CVA never actually attacked sovreignty in any legally registered -A- system. All rather humorous really, all the chest beating and ego and false calls for peace.
And we know from a long history that -A- wanted to fight, nothing more.
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Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mnement'h
Eve is a sandbox ... and sometimes the big kid will step on your castle and there is nothing you can do about it but complain how unfair it all is on Galnet ... but not everyone will agree with you ... especially the thousands of pilots who now have a new home in Providence.
Interestingly, in the new providence the sand for the sandbox has been used to make an ant farm. It's a fixed enclosure(s) completely under the ultimate control of -A-. There is no sandbox in that area at this time. You may wish to look at it as a set of enclosed sandboxes if you will, but the enclosure is obvious.
Sure, the ants can fight and kill each other, but the glass remains firmly fixed in place. And they will be squashed quickly if there is any challange.
And -A- wanted the holders to join this little ant farm. Indeed it seems that some remain. I fear that I prefer a greater freedom than that, as do others. As we speak it seems that Star Fraction will also be somewhat restrained by this enclosure.
Free pilots will always strive to be free, and contrary to popular belief, Sev3rance has always strived for the freedom of it's own pilots as well as those who would fly peacefully in their space.
So I wish you all well with the ant farm. It was a great success in achieving a very peaceful area with very limitted local conflict.
Well... there will be confict. Perhaps. Some time.
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Mnement'h
Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.14 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Xina Tutor
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Mnement'h
You can spin this any way you want but the bottom line is CVA and the Holders pulled the first punch
Unless you count -A-'s regular raids into Providence or their support of the CVA's oldest enemy.
Well neven more than that really. It was -A- who first attacked sovreignty. CVA never actually attacked sovreignty in any legally registered -A- system. All rather humorous really, all the chest beating and ego and false calls for peace.
And we know from a long history that -A- wanted to fight, nothing more.
Another lame attempt at spinning words rather than seriously acknowledging what happened ... If this was just an attempt to expand a little by LFA and gain a few systems for new Holders, then you might have a point. Unfortunately Aralis's page-long post about conquering -A- space just doesn't fit into the whole 'it wasn't an attack on -A- sov' excuse.
Go drop a few TCU's into non-sov systems in Delve and see what happens ... I'm sure IT (just an example but applicable to any large space-holding alliance) will understand that you are not really attacking their space, just merely expanding into non-claimed territory ...
as for -A- wanting to fight I quite distinctly remember being in 49-U fighting Goons with almost the entire alliance and friends there when LFA started dropping the TCU's ... funny way of fighting with our ships 25+ jumps from where LFA was at the time.
Goebels type propaganda where you repeat one thing over and over again until people start to believe it's actually true just doesn't work any more. Especially when you just lost the war.
As for the ant farm ... you say there are enclosures ... true ... the only -A- imposed rule for providence is "NO SOV WARFARE" ... how is this different from what CVA used to have ? You had a unified blue list ... which means you can only attack whoever CVA decides can be attacked ... which means no sov warfare unless CVA allowed it ... unlike CVA tho we do not impose the inner relations of the inhabitants of Providence. They can blue / neut / red whoever they want. They can individually implement NBSI, NRDS or whatever other ROE they want to. They can be slavers or they can be freedom-fighters (see developments in SF vs. Daisho conflict). They can support noob corps that want to come to .0 or they can shoot them at will ... the point is as long as they don't go SOV they can do whatever the frack they want to ... they pay rent to noone, they have no blue list restrictions, they have no anti-piracy laws, they can set access to their station they way they want to and they can fight over resources in any way they see fit.
Yes the new sandbox might be contained from expanding but it sure as hell isn't as restricted as it used to be.
Oh and remember ... they were INVITED to providence ... not forced or planted ... why would anyone in their right mind come to Providence if it wasn't a place where they can prosper ? Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 22:17:00 -
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For some reason -A- seems to need to feel that they were defending their space to make them feel better. It's all very strange.
It is also odd how there was no reaction to other moves into catch earlier. 2J was settled much earlier and there was no reaction. There were always holder alliances claiming various unclaimed systems in catch.
And odd how -A- could ever feel threatened but such a relatively small group of alliances. There does seem to be some issues of insecurity here, and we can only guess that the great empire is not as stable within as it may appear on the surface.
Oh, and the comparisons to CVA. I will grant some simularities, however the sovreignty was self imposed and negotiated internally within the alliances rather from without as is now the case. As far as New Providence is concerned they are walls imposed by an outside force. If you look at the greater region as say, the '-A- block' then is is perhaps more similar, although I doubt the ants have much say in the matter.
And that said. -A- now claim to be the same as CVA. How interesting.
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 22:28:00 -
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Amarr vict...ummm...minmatar victor?
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Mnement'h
Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.14 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Xina Tutor
For some reason -A- seems to need to feel that they were defending their space to make them feel better. It's all very strange.
It is also odd how there was no reaction to other moves into catch earlier. 2J was settled much earlier and there was no reaction. There were always holder alliances claiming various unclaimed systems in catch.
And odd how -A- could ever feel threatened but such a relatively small group of alliances. There does seem to be some issues of insecurity here, and we can only guess that the great empire is not as stable within as it may appear on the surface.
Oh, and the comparisons to CVA. I will grant some simularities, however the sovreignty was self imposed and negotiated internally within the alliances rather from without as is now the case. As far as New Providence is concerned they are walls imposed by an outside force. If you look at the greater region as say, the '-A- block' then is is perhaps more similar, although I doubt the ants have much say in the matter.
And that said. -A- now claim to be the same as CVA. How interesting.
'When facts fail do an ad hominem' ... that approach works on CAOD but if you want to have a proper discussion without basing your arguments on the presupposed needs and feels of the adversary then it's just not a debate any more but use of logical fallacies to justify what has been proven to be wrong.
The systems LFA attacked were, unlike some other systems previously claimed, in spitting distance of HED ... and unlike Providence that has 3 entry points from empire -A- space only has one ... letting a hostile entity expand to within walking distance of your most valuable strategic asset is lunacy at the least ...
You say -A- is threatened by a small group of alliances ... at the moment the conflict started, the Provi bloc counted just over 6300 pilots ... that is hardly a 'small group of alliances'. Point of fact is the Provibloc used to be the 6th largest entity in the EvE universe ... just below -A- and friends who take no.5 ...
Comparing -A- to CVA is absurd since -A- has no direct influence over what goes on inside providence beyond projecting the force to keep it in the same SOV structure it is now. CVA on the other hand regulated station access, docking fees, standings lists, intel channels, jumpbridge network access, moon mining rights to just name a few ... If you look at the broader picture -A- and it's known projected power has had the same unwritten arrangement with providence even before the conflict, just on a inter-regional rather than intra-regional scale. Everyone knew that if you expand towards -A- space you will be dealing with repercussions you are not able to handle unless you are a powerbloc. That is exactly what the New Providence inhabitants know now too. -A- didn't meddle into affairs inside provi and neither does it now, but the threat is as real now (just more demonstrable by the recent events) as it was in the CVA days.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
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Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 23:24:00 -
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My appologies, Mnement'h, but you made the comparisons to CVA, not me. I think it is interesting you campare the two at all.
And I am simply wondering at the real motivation of -A- in this matter. From what has been said, the motivation appears to have been a fear of -A- losing Sovreingty to CVA and a desire for -A- to maintain it's reputation as a very powerful alliance. These just seem odd motivations. It suggests that -A- actually felt threatened by the Povidence block, which is interesting to say the least.
As for the numbers in Alliances, I think there is some interesting math involved there, but even with your numbers it was well known that a very large number of pilots in the Providence region were industrial in nature, due to the very nature of the area, and hardly a threat. It is also a relatively poor area in comperison to deaper regions of space, and one which cocentrated on comunity and industrial infrastructure rather then pure military might. After all, this is the standard joke in regard to Providence, is it not?
So again. How interesting theat they might be seen as any real threat to sovreignty of what is currently seen by most as the largest powerplock in the cluster. A power block with numbers many times higher than what was seen in Providence.
And in the end I again say. You made the comparision between -A- and CVA with regard to enlosurism. I simply agreed it was true, to a point. And you still make the comparisons.
We can but chuckle at the claims of such thing as restricted station access. I think you might find station access somewhat more restricted then it ever was before
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Mnement'h
Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.15 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Xina Tutor
stuff ...
I was referring to this line when I spoke of your comparison of -A- and CVA:
Quote: And that said. -A- now claim to be the same as CVA. How interesting.
you say we claim to be the same and I claim we are nothing of the sort ... which is why I brought up all the comparisons ...
When summarizing everything you said in your previous posts I come to the conclusion that you believe -A- overreacted ? Am I reading this correct?
What do you believe would have been the proper response to the incursion into catch so close to our most valuable system ? Should we have stopped after D-G and pretend nothing happened and stay confident that as soon as we went (for instance north or to goon owned delve) that Aralis wouldn't make good on his promise to never stop until we are removed from holy land ? Maybe we should have waited until we were fully engaged in Delve against the then still existing Goons to find out there were SBU's onlining in HED ?
Whether or not Provibloc was ever a threat to -A- sov is now painfully obvious, but that doesn't change the fact that no sane strategist or leader would ever expose his homeland and his base of power to a known enemy (who at that professes publicly the desire to annihilate said homeland) however small they are. -A- can field capitals in triple digits. How much of an annoyance do you think it is to fuel all those ships when you need to hop them battlefield to battlefield just because you 'had to save the best place in EvE for noobs' ? Excuse my bluntness but who decided it was up to -A- to be the guardian of nooblet-world ? Wasn't it CVA's idea ? Didn't they claim to be the Lord Holders of Providence ? In what possible way is the destruction of that system upon -A- to prevent or not bring about?
Bottom line is a conflict was initiated and as much as you would like to believe that we were bloodthirsty and wanted the fight so badly I can assure you that 30 days of grinding stations isn't seen as a fun pastime in -A-. We were quite happy slugging it out with the Goons before we got pulled back home.
You poked us knowing full well the amount of firepower we would bring and whether anyone likes it or not we brought it all to make a point. Which is exactly what this whole thread is about. Making a point. Not chest-beating or e-peen wielding, making a point. To Aralis. A point that his idea of a tired -A- not willing to do the grind was wrong just as his idea of expanding into -A- space was at the beginning of this mess.
Also on the station access thing, you say it is amusing that I mention station access restrictions ... I find that you are missing the point ... in old provi it was CVA who dictated access to most (if not all the stations) in providence by enforcing a region wide blue/red list. In new providence the station owners are the ones who decide who docks and who not. I see that as a step up in freedom not a step back. We might have decided who will live in provi for now but we are not deciding how they live.
If the new owners choose to run their own blue lists it's their prerogative but keep in mind we are talking about thousands of new pilots in providence ... not single people who own a station each and decide who docks and who doesn't. They all have friends who they can bring into providence to learn the life of .0 just like the old provi was. It might not be NRDS any more but it was never that safe a place to begin with.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.04.15 00:30:00 -
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Over-reaction? Well either way would have worked equally as well oviously, and apparently your leader thought the same as he called for the pact with CVA. The D-G battle was quite effective, although odd temporal disturbances appear to have hampered some forces there. I am simply curious. I find it all very interesting now from a very outside persecptive. Unlike some, perhaps, I am not attached to particular space, and in reality lost little in the conflict. Indeed many ships I intended in throwing into the fight sure to die were later flown out as there was never any real opportunity to fight realistcally at that time, and the deeper reaches of free space were calling. I do however very much treasure the loss of my omen to two titan class vessels and a supercarrier. That brough a great deal of laughter around the table at evening mean, I assure you.
It seems in the end almost as if -A- wanted the pilots of providence to remain there as some sort of plaything. And as far as the need to destroy Providence goes it was well said by it's very leader that -A- was ideed very much prepared to leave the fight at D-G as long as CVA was prepared to renounce their mission and any hope of true control of their sovreignty. -A- was even going to allow some expansion perhaps, but on their terms, of course. So in that way it seems that -A- considered it may be an over-reaction and something they would avoid if possible. As I have said, it is all very strange.
This desire to keep Providence as it was is clear as they now rebuild this area in their own image. It is somehow familiar, yes so far shows the obvious signs of manufacture rather than the true dynamics on real space. In time I am sure that will change, but one is left to wonder if the resistriction imposed by -A- are not even more oppressive than the restrictions they claim CVA made upon it's holders. Restrictions I may note we rarely felt were such as an alliance.
And we all know some things happened that were beyond the control of -A- and they lost alliances from the area that they likely would have preferred reamain in some form or other. Well fear not in that case as that was very unlikely in the long term.
Now a quiet peace rests upon the region and all is well. Again, good work. The goal has been achieved.
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Nachshon
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.15 00:47:00 -
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I gather from these posts that Ushra'Khan and Against All Authorities have retaken Providence from CVA.
If so, I send the following message to Ushra'Khan:
Congratulations on your military victory. But you are not done yet. Now you must control Providence.
You will no doubt feel tempted to exact retribution on those neutrals who lived in Providence under CVA rule. Do not give in. If we are to defeat the Amarr, we must show that we are better than them. Instead, allow any and all who forsake slavery to live in Providence. Enact an NRDS policy, and fight piracy in Providence.
Many pilots who live in the Republic believe that you have become just another nullsec alliance. Prove them wrong.
Spear Lieutenant Nachshon ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship.
The True Meaning of Freedom
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.04.15 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: Alekseyev Karrde on 15/04/2010 01:34:23
Originally by: Merdaneth
Originally by: Borza Slavak
Exactly how what kind of window are you giving 'business as normal' to recommence before dismissing it as never going to happen? Minutes? Hours?
You tell me. I haven't heard of any timetables, I merely notice many new residents and new policies (and conflicts about them) already springing up.
For it's part as one of the new administrators of a constellation in Providence, all of Noir. Mercenary Group's stations (GA9, HP-6, H9-, and 7YW) have been reopened to the public for two days now. When I reviewed the station regulations upon transfer of ownership, i was appalled at how restrictive and exploitative they were unless your corporation was given the highest level of standing.
Naturally NMG. also wants to exploit the economic activity of those using our stations. However we're quite up front about our business plan, while CVA pronounced time and again how they were the benevolent friends of their holders and neutrals, "protecting" them so they could use Providence "freely". To hear CVA and their devotees tell it, we're blood thirsty pirates who sit in the lap of -A- want Providence all to ourselves.
In actuality, NMG. is an independent mercenary organization and our interests in Providence are almost purely financial. Since taking over the stations of the H-K constellation, we have opened ALL the services to the public and reduced the docking fees and taxes on most of the outposts, including the refinery tax. The market has gone from destitute to developing, and we intent to take it to thriving.
Unlike the previous occupants, we have no intentions to dictate the affairs, internal or otherwise, of neutrals who choose to make their living in our space nor will we ban anyone from docking for anything less than existentially disruptive behavior. Our relationship with -A- is simply that we agreed to abide by -A-'s sovereignty warfare ban; that's the sole extent of our obligations and of their influence on how we conduct our affairs. In fact, I endorse Manfred's experiment in governance and am very interested to see where it will lead.
We are also very upfront that while we plan to continue our rigorous contract schedule shorlty, and that we are very much a NBSI organization and will behave as such on the days we are "home". This is no secret, and we oft repeat it to those who ask about what conditions will be like in our space. The fact is that any pilot will not be much less safe now than they were under CVA's hand, except that we will make no false promises about your security so that you know to be on your guard and can be at the proper level of awareness and take measures to scout or defend yourselves properly.
The misleading nature of CVA's claims of a neutral-friendly, neutral-fair, and neutral-safe Providence have been fairly well brought to light over the course of this war. Isnt it time someone gave it to you straight? 0.0 is a dangerous place, and Providence is 0.0 But in many parts of Providence, in their own ways particular to their goals and cultures, groups like NMG. and others (UNITY when they stand down from a war footing) are willing to give anyone, including the previous occupants of the area who are not actively lashing out in desperation trying to disrupt local infrastructure and commerce, a fresh and fair chance at making their fortune.
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Mnement'h
Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.15 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Xina Tutor ... This desire to keep Providence as it was is clear as they now rebuild this area in their own image. It is somehow familiar, yes so far shows the obvious signs of manufacture rather than the true dynamics on real space. In time I am sure that will change, but one is left to wonder if the resistriction imposed by -A- are not even more oppressive than the restrictions they claim CVA made upon it's holders. Restrictions I may note we rarely felt were such as an alliance.
And we all know some things happened that were beyond the control of -A- and they lost alliances from the area that they likely would have preferred remain in some form or other. Well fear not in that case as that was very unlikely in the long term.
Now a quiet peace rests upon the region and all is well. Again, good work. The goal has been achieved.
Best I can do is give you a perspective from the other side.
At the time before the conflict Fountain was falling and Delve was starting to heat up. It looked like a very long fight ahead. An assault on the homeland by Provibloc at that time seemed very ill-timed (to some even coordinated) and it drew our attention from a more important goal. For a few days we were constantly hopping catch to querios and back sometimes several times a day and the double front was making people unhappy. And then the Goons imploded. This left us with our full attention span to dedicate to the defense of Catch. The battle for D-G was plagued with unfortunate temporal disturbances. Nobody denies that. However the decision to jump the providence fleet out of the system was a poor one and if done otherwise (for example dropping the shields on the pos and engaging instead of jumping out) it would have shaped things quite differently. I remember at one point all carriers in our fleet straining to keep a titan from rapidly loosing armor. We all know what happened afterward so no point in recalling it.
Anyways after the battle an offer was made. At that time the idea of grinding through all of providence wasn't an appealing one and many pilots hoped an agreement would be reached. But the offer was refused. And refused with a veil of insult. That just couldn't stand. The idea put forward that -A- and allies didn't have the stamina to go through with an endeavor of such magnitude and would easily bore could have come only from someone who never experienced the way -A- worked on the inside. A month later the OP in this thread is the answer to the challenge.
If you look at things objectively not much has changed for -A- ... we still hold the same space, we have neutral neighbors a-plenty. The only thing that has changed for -A- is the threat that was on our borders was neutralized. Our allies have their old home back and we are very happy about it but for us it's back to the same old same old.
Yes the annihilation of Providence was an overreaction but one that could have been avoided after D-G.
Will New Providence be a new beacon of light in New Eden remains to be seen.
In any case I thank you for the exchange of opinions and the civilized manner in which it was executed.
Fly Safe. Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
Seleene
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.15 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde I am a very smart businessman.
Good fortune to your organization.
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Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.04.15 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mnement'h
In any case I thank you for the exchange of opinions and the civilized manner in which it was executed.
Fly Safe.
Indeed, and thank you as well. The implosion of the goon alliance was of course something of an unfortunate bit of timing for some. We know this, of course.
I know it is said that many holders skulked away and would not fight, but the warriors amongst us have never feared such and happily will seek to cross swords with any who will face us on the battlefield. Once Atlas was engaged in a full call to action and was simply there to remove us, however, there was no fight. It was simply a removal of sovreignty with all forces at their disposal. It was better to then move elsewhere and continue to fight and die as we know how.
Space, after all, is just space.
I will certainly try to find time to visit the area in the future and see how things progress.
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Kazzzi
Amarr Iniquitous Technologies Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2010.04.15 05:14:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Nachshon
If so, I send the following message to Ushra'Khan:
Congratulations on your military victory. But you are not done yet. Now you must control Providence.
Nah, bud. Providence will rule itself. U'K are warriors, not empire builders. CVA may have been U'K's sworn enemy for years, but they aren't the only slavers in the universe. U'K still has work to do.
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Pallidum Treponema
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.15 06:01:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Xina Tutor
Well neven more than that really. It was -A- who first attacked sovreignty. CVA never actually attacked sovreignty in any legally registered -A- system. All rather humorous really, all the chest beating and ego and false calls for peace.
That is simply not true. On January 8, forces led by CVA and LFA deployed TCUs in four systems in Catch, known to be part of -A- territory, regardless of whether they were legally registered or not. Additionally, shortly thereafter, SBUs were deployed in -A- critical jumpbridge system HED-GP, a clear violation of -A- sovereign claims.
While the SBUs in HED-GP were destroyed, the fact remains that there was a clear violation of -A- registered sovereign space.
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foksieloy
Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.15 06:23:00 -
[91]
Yes, we are warriors.
I truly wonder how we will work as builders. As the old saying goes - destroying is easy, creating is hard.
May I propose a toast! A toast to the new Providence, a free Providence. May it become a land where the downtrodden can come and live in peace and freedom. And may it become a land where warriors will hone their skills, so they may topple the slavers more easily. To freedom! To Providence! _______________________ We come for our people! |
Kir Laeda
Caldari Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.15 07:37:00 -
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Edited by: Kir Laeda on 15/04/2010 07:39:57 "Viva la PAXTON! Viva la Liberte!" C'mon respawn faster already - toooo much chit chat :) Oh yeah and - People of EVE, it's a great victory for all my minmatar brethren!
I'm no hero. Never was. I'm just an old killer... Hired to do some wet work. Old Snake.
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Katash Mongro
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Posted - 2010.04.15 08:47:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Wotlankor
Originally by: Katash Mongro Congrats you blew up some of the least organized youngling carebear p***ies in the game.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows where the real fight in EVE is right now.
The NC is completely stonewalling the SC. Quite frankly you would be completely useless in the north against an even vaguely competent spaceholding enemy.
This "accomplishment" is a f****ng joke.
I think you mistake the esteemed GalNet for some other filthy broadcast channel where you usualy reside?
The truth hurts doesn't it?
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Kava
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Posted - 2010.04.15 10:44:00 -
[94]
Nobody's musings on the Providence war.
CVA failed horribly, quite embarrassing really but it was quite obvious they couldn't fight the full might of AAA +friends/pets. So they did what they could and evaced all their slaves and trinkets to lowsec/empire and lost all their space with a whimper but without much damage done to non space assets. Best move they could've done.
AAA proves they can field huge numbers of supercaps/caps and blow through systems on pure stamina, not that that was doubted by anyone. And however they spin it (by some) Provi is now their barrel full of fish and "Alcohol Fueled Bears" sure like their fish.
Holders Some stuck it out, some failed and some turned coat. Paxton gets the big gold star for putting up a fight.
UK Congratulations on achieving your "we come for our people" campaign! You've changed quite a bit in the last year! You've recruited known slavers that's "repented" you also have had your statements of NRDS walked all over by AAA. (Granted, mostly Butters statements, but he makes allot of those so...) Where Is Karns (hes the king right, or is it queen Sappharine?) statement of a freed Providence? Instead we get a Manny "lol RP" communication blasted out over galNet But you effing took Unity back, did it cost you your soul? I actually like you guys somewhat, serious question.
the FiSH The Fish in the Barrel as it where, some bigger and badder and some hilarius! Like the NOIR guy before me saying they are not pirates as claimed by CVA and advertising Neutral docking rights and use of systems. Then goes on to say "but if we see you we WILL kill you and take your stuff. haha, its brilliant!
Jade will undoubtedly write another high horse communication on galNet and **** Daisho of, starting a war with SF. That ofc will urge Jade to share even more of her poetry... and nobody wants that, so please just continue mining.
I don't know much but this, a free Providence is a hilarious Providence
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.15 11:02:00 -
[95]
UK have always managed their ROE and standings list independently. People who claim we cannot be NRDS because AAA won't let us are in for a suprise very soon
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Motseth
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Posted - 2010.04.15 12:53:00 -
[96]
An entity is as powerful as all the friends and allies they can field, therefore such entity is one and one only. If 1 person have 2000 allies, that person will be as powerful as all of them together are, the big picture is more than the sum of the colors in it.
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D3rg3
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Posted - 2010.04.15 13:40:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Mnement'h
You can spin this any way you want but the bottom line is CVA and the Holders pulled the first punch
Unless you count -A-'s regular raids into Providence or their support of the CVA's oldest enemy.
Dear Rodj Blake, Amarr Loyalist and Loser of the Fight
Your hollow words can barely disguise the pain and anguish between each syllable.
Your time is over, the world has changed.
Slavery is no longer acceptable in any part of New Eden. The look on your face as you choke that down is priceless.
You lost. Pathetic bickering via GalNet is your last resort.
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Wotlankor
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.15 15:40:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Katash Mongro The truth hurts doesn't it?
Im not sure what truth you are refering to, however I am sure you, sir, are the kind that find thruth whereever your eyes gaze. And that, that truth always reflect how you percieve the world.
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Forlorn Wongraven
Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.15 16:06:00 -
[99]
This was a great campaign for Ushra'Khan. We would have not been able to do that with our friend from AAA. When my corporation joined the Ushra'Khan our combat base was CL-85. It was a long way and it was a great fight.
To CVA I want to say this: avoiding any fights after D-G might have helped your membership to keep ship assets up. However the strong bond that kept Ushra'Khan alive and running after we lost Unity is something you dont have. The "remember when we defended Unity" effect will not keep you guys together - cause you did not fight. Some long time members of my corporation defended Unity along with Ushra'Khan back in the days. The support for slavery is low already - finding new friends that will help you to take back all those 50 stations you had - as you could see attacking station systems needs massive fleets over months - might take you years. We will be here to keep you out! ____________________
Lord Makk > I swear to god if there is a saviour, his name is Forlorn.
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Merdaneth
Amarr Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2010.04.15 16:16:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Butter Dog People who claim we cannot be NRDS because AAA won't let us are in for a suprise very soon
Soon or Soon(tm)?
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The Illusion of Freedom | The Truth about Slavery |
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Claudine Laurent
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2010.04.15 16:21:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Merdaneth
Originally by: Butter Dog People who claim we cannot be NRDS because AAA won't let us are in for a suprise very soon
Soon or Soon(tm)?
SoonÖ gigglepanties.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari Kumiho's Smile
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Posted - 2010.04.15 17:47:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 15/04/2010 17:52:59
Originally by: D3rg3 Dear Rodj Blake, Amarr Loyalist and Loser of the Fight
Your hollow words can barely disguise the pain and anguish between each syllable.
Well, it wasn't actually his own organization that went and lost Providence, but I could see how he'd be less than thrilled. But....
Quote: Slavery is no longer acceptable in any part of New Eden.
Um. What?
You mean except for space held by the Blood Raiders, Sansha's Nation, the Angel Cartel, the Serpentis (if I remember correctly), and the largest of the four Yulai-signatory empires?
Providence is a Nation-infested region, pilot; most of the slaves there are, and probably have been for years, the luckless, implant-controlled Sansha thralls walking around inside those spine-covered ships. Ushra'Khan and friends will hopefully be doing them the massive favor of blowing them up by the thousands.
Quote: You lost. Pathetic bickering via GalNet is your last resort.
I could be mistaken, pilot, but I don't believe Mr. Blake fought in the Providence conflict. PIE is associated more with the Amarr militia, and they've made some gains lately.
CVA, and hence the Amarr, lost the war in Providence. U'K's war, however, (especially if you read their target list as including every slave-taking culture in the cluster) is very far from over.
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Gottii
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2010.04.15 19:20:00 -
[103]
The mere fact that slavery exists in many parts of the cluster does not make it acceptable...
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Nachshon
Caldari Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2010.04.15 20:28:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Kazzzi
Originally by: Nachshon
If so, I send the following message to Ushra'Khan:
Congratulations on your military victory. But you are not done yet. Now you must control Providence.
Nah, bud. Providence will rule itself. U'K are warriors, not empire builders. CVA may have been U'K's sworn enemy for years, but they aren't the only slavers in the universe. U'K still has work to do.
It would be irresponsible of U'K to abandon Providence. And it would make an excellent base for future anti-slaving operations. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship.
The True Meaning of Freedom
My v |
Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.15 21:45:00 -
[105]
Now we begin again.
Amarr Victor.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.15 21:51:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Gottii The mere fact that slavery exists in many parts of the cluster does not make it acceptable...
And who made you the arbiter of what is and what is not acceptable?
Slavery not be acceptable to you, but it's perfectly acceptable to billions of Amarrians.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.15 21:57:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Gottii The mere fact that slavery exists in many parts of the cluster does not make it acceptable...
And who made you the arbiter of what is and what is not acceptable?
Slavery not be acceptable to you, but it's perfectly acceptable to billions of Amarrians.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari Kumiho's Smile
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Posted - 2010.04.16 01:56:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Xennith
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Gottii The mere fact that slavery exists in many parts of the cluster does not make it acceptable...
And who made you the arbiter of what is and what is not acceptable?
Slavery not be acceptable to you, but it's perfectly acceptable to billions of Amarrians.
Its what we like to describe as a target rich environment.
The Matari have their view, as do the Amarr. But, Mr. Gottii ...
Originally by: D3rg3 Slavery is no longer acceptable in any part of New Eden.
Emphasis mine. This after going on about how Mr. Blake "lost the war."
Would you say that slavery was "acceptable" somewhere before Providence fell? That is what he's implying the tipping point was, after all.
This is a silly claim the pilot is making, whichever way we look at it.
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Kendon Riddick
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Posted - 2010.04.19 10:32:00 -
[109]
Originally by: foksieloy Yes, we are warriors.
I truly wonder how we will work as builders. As the old saying goes - destroying is easy, creating is hard.
May I propose a toast! A toast to the new Providence, a free Providence. May it become a land where the downtrodden can come and live in peace and freedom. And may it become a land where warriors will hone their skills, so they may topple the slavers more easily. To freedom! To Providence!
you realise that under CVA prov was free to anyone there for profit wihtout killing locals.
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Darveses
DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.04.19 10:42:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Kendon riddick
you realise that under CVA prov was free to anyone there for profit wihtout killing locals.
I'm sure the slaves felt pretty free too. You, Sir, are missing the point. --- Star Fraction Public - The new Channel
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Roboplegic
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.04.19 15:37:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Darveses
Originally by: Kendon riddick
you realise that under CVA prov was free to anyone there for profit wihtout killing locals.
I'm sure the slaves felt pretty free too. You, Sir, are missing the point.
you, sir, are making that "slavery" **** up....
*mumbles* stupid roleplay crap to justify war
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Darveses
DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.04.19 16:29:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Roboplegic
Originally by: Darveses
Originally by: Kendon riddick
you realise that under CVA prov was free to anyone there for profit wihtout killing locals.
I'm sure the slaves felt pretty free too. You, Sir, are missing the point.
you, sir, are making that "slavery" **** up....
*mumbles* stupid roleplay crap to justify war
CAOD is that way. Mumble there if you need to. --- Star Fraction Public - The new Channel
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Equinox Daedalus
Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.19 19:05:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Forlorn Wongraven This was a great campaign for Ushra'Khan. We would have not been able to do that with our friend from AAA. When my corporation joined the Ushra'Khan our combat base was CL-85. It was a long way and it was a great fight.
To CVA I want to say this: avoiding any fights after D-G might have helped your membership to keep ship assets up. However the strong bond that kept Ushra'Khan alive and running after we lost Unity is something you dont have. The "remember when we defended Unity" effect will not keep you guys together - cause you did not fight. Some long time members of my corporation defended Unity along with Ushra'Khan back in the days. The support for slavery is low already - finding new friends that will help you to take back all those 50 stations you had - as you could see attacking station systems needs massive fleets over months - might take you years. We will be here to keep you out!
I suppose it only took UK 2+ years and sore knees at the feet of their overlords. Even at 1 point UK alliance was down to about 300 pod pilots. Many in CVA actually felt bad for your alliance. Of course over the course of time you added new, and far more interesting pilots (in some ways).
I can also recall we didn't outnumber you initially in 9uy, but wore out your numbers as your friends eventually moved on. to the point 9uy was a barren wasteland of most of UK members (considering it was averaging 90-100 reds a day).
Please note I'm not bitter or angry at your "takeover" just as the pendulum swings one way, eventually it can swing back the other.
Mostly sad to see these com channels lit up with the behavior of sides, but to each his own.
I hope I see the day when your removed again from providence. If not it won't be because CVA didn't try.
The Legion of Spoon : Upon wings of wax I fly, never to close too the sun |
Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.20 00:41:00 -
[114]
This discussion will never end will it.
Do you doubt that the Ushra'Khan could take you on alone? Lets set the time back half a year.
You and your Proviblockers came in full force to absolutely everything we did alone, why? Because you knew full and well that a dedicated UK force could eradicate you without intervention from ANY of your allies.
You'll most likely respond with "Thats what we have allies for" Exactly, thats what WE TOO have allies for. So leave that dead horse and stop kicking it.
So for this campaign, your tactic was to bore us out, yet our fleets tally 100-250+ man easily, every day, for months.
Together with our Allies we gave you the medicine you always gave us, hitting us with full force, enjoyable was it not?
Could your holders pull the same? Yeah, for 2-3 days.. Then the 500+ man fleet was reduced to 200 (on a very good day)
We're warriors that will never give up, we'll fight until the last ships are used, then we'll demolish our station interiors and build improvised ships out of them and go at you again.
Its that simple, we're never giving up, i'll personally sell my soul to satan himself to see you perish in a fire and never come back.
Death to slavery.
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Dame Death
Minmatar Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.20 00:58:00 -
[115]
Quote: I hope I see the day when your removed again from providence. If not it won't be because CVA didn't try
You didnt try to defend it though did you?
Logs of a Brutor |
Mah Kraah
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.20 01:23:00 -
[116]
enlightening footage related to the original msg of this broadcast
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Rogue Steel
Order of the Chaotic Sewn Together Wrong
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Posted - 2010.04.20 02:10:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Lord Makk i'll personally sell my soul to satan himself to see you perish in a fire and never come back.
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Sarius Deteis
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.20 04:20:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Sarius Deteis on 20/04/2010 04:23:18 The new providence huh? You have some alliances out there claiming space that have a maximum of about 70 members in them... and most of those members are 'kin'. Not to mention that some of these new sovereignty holders will have an average of twenty to thirty members in a particular system who are active, our eight to nine man Frigate and Cruiser fleet will come through, not take a single loss, and will take out at least three to four of them while the rest warp fast back to the station. These alliance are ready to stand on their own feet?
These next few months will be completely blissful for the might of CVA and our allies. How long will it take for these new alliances to leave Providence because they can not repair or refit their ships in their stations, They can not get fuel to their POS's, they can not seek out and destroy Sansha Pirates for bounties because of the ever present chance of death.
What happens when it is not only CVA that they fear, but their neighbors? With no central line of communication they will not know when the hits will come or how hard they will be. Oh yes, the next few months will be very entertaining indeed.
AMARR VICTOR!
((***Minor spelling error))
Amarr Victory
WTB 8 lowslot Inty |
Fridarey
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.04.20 04:24:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Sarius Deteis our eight to nine man Frigate and Cruiser fleet will come through, not take a single loss
WTB 8-9 man CVA frigate and cruiser gang for regular entertainment tours.
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Sarius Deteis
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.20 04:41:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Fridarey
Originally by: Sarius Deteis our eight to nine man Frigate and Cruiser fleet will come through, not take a single loss
WTB 8-9 man CVA frigate and cruiser gang for regular entertainment tours.
Keep track of the Concord generated battle reports, because as you sit in your capsule and use very odd language on this communication channel, you can rest assured that the battle reports are even at this moment coming out quickly onto our Holo boards, and that your alliance will no doubt be the subject of many losses should these paths ever cross. Our eight to nine man frigate and cruiser gangs have something that your larger gangs will never have, and that is fearlessness. I have numerous clones standing by to be used in bloody engagements throughout Providence, however I do not believe that I shall need to use them.
Amarr Victory
WTB 8 lowslot Inty |
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Sarius Deteis
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.20 04:49:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Lord Makk You and your Proviblockers came in full force to absolutely everything we did alone, why? Because you knew full and well that a dedicated UK force could eradicate you without intervention from ANY of your allies.
.... Not worth quoting the rest as we all get the just from the above ....
If you are going to come to this communication channel and represent your Alliance at a time in which you claim a "remarkable victory", then please attempt to not show those who are also in this communication channel that you are a complete fool, and give credit to our claim, that the reason you should be enslaved is because you are not able to even carry on the most basic of conversations.
Amarr Victory
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.20 10:05:00 -
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It's good to see that CVA's new ambition in Providence is to scare a few sansha hunters. How relevant.
Amarr Victor indeed. ----------
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Posted - 2010.04.20 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Gottii The mere fact that slavery exists in many parts of the cluster does not make it acceptable...
And who made you the arbiter of what is and what is not acceptable?
Slavery not be acceptable to you, but it's perfectly acceptable to billions of Amarrians.
Outside secure systems walls, winners decide what is and what isnt acceptable. Amarrians opinions means exactly nothing.
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Mattduk
Gallente Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.20 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: Mattduk on 20/04/2010 14:03:52
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Pimpertron One of the biggest alliances crushes a few smaller entities and you come here chest beating? You should be hanging your heads in shame. Did you know there is a real war going on up north? while the other super powers are slugging it out your down in Providence playing the big fish in a small pond.
Your like a grown up on the school playground who is scared of going out and facing people in the big bad world.
It's called being thorough and keeping true to threats made. We said we wouldn't stop until CVA is out of providence ... we held our word and now we can have fun in regions where the enemy actually fights with more than hollow words. BTW at the start of the conflict the provi block had a few thousand pilots more than we had ... too bad they hadn't thought about what it takes to keep those pilots in ships before they took us on.
Big kudos to U'K ... they might not have the same firepower as -A- but they have the same determination and willpower to see Provi purged of CVA too proud for it's own good. In my book U'K was a very equal entity in this operation and all the folks dissing them could learn a thing or two from them.
Respect Brother! :)
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Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.20 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Makk on 20/04/2010 14:23:22 Yo sarius, go f0ck yourself ;)
To enslave me, you'll first have to start trying to fight for it c/d?
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Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.20 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Makk on 20/04/2010 22:16:31 Breaking News : CVA BS blob murdered in XHQ/YWSO.
Fun to get chased around by multiple Alliances? Get used to it Sarius, your own medicine indeed.
PS, Good luck on the further enslaving of me and my brothers.
PPS : More tears.
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CCP Adida
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Posted - 2010.04.21 16:00:00 -
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OOC trolling comments removed
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Halarach
Amarr Epitoth Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.22 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Makk Edited by: Lord Makk on 20/04/2010 22:16:31 Breaking News : CVA BS blob murdered in XHQ/YWSO.
Fun to get chased around by multiple Alliances? Get used to it Sarius, your own medicine indeed.
PS, Good luck on the further enslaving of me and my brothers.
PPS : More tears.
Seriously, do you really think such a minor drawback will dent our morale?
You assume a lot of tears from us Mr Makk, but it was just another fight and we did well considering how outnumbered we were. I haven't seen any of us crying during (nor after) the fight, sorry to disapoint you. |
Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.22 14:18:00 -
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I don't need no public posts to detect good old ex-instalocker tears.
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shanda captison
The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.22 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Halarach
Originally by: Lord Makk Edited by: Lord Makk on 20/04/2010 22:16:31 Breaking News : CVA BS blob murdered in XHQ/YWSO.
Fun to get chased around by multiple Alliances? Get used to it Sarius, your own medicine indeed.
PS, Good luck on the further enslaving of me and my brothers.
PPS : More tears.
Seriously, do you really think such a minor drawback will dent our morale?
You assume a lot of tears from us Mr Makk, but it was just another fight and we did well considering how outnumbered we were. I haven't seen any of us crying during (nor after) the fight, sorry to disapoint you.
It was indeed a good fight, though you weren't that outnumbered, by the time Soda came onto the field you were already de-aggressing. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Sahwoolo Etoophie |
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Montague Zooma
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.22 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dame Death You didnt try to defend it though did you?
The more our enemies complain about our strategy, the more I smile.
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Xyla Vulchanus
Amarr Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.22 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Halarach
Originally by: Lord Makk Edited by: Lord Makk on 20/04/2010 22:16:31 Breaking News : CVA BS blob murdered in XHQ/YWSO.
Fun to get chased around by multiple Alliances? Get used to it Sarius, your own medicine indeed.
PS, Good luck on the further enslaving of me and my brothers.
PPS : More tears.
Seriously, do you really think such a minor drawback will dent our morale?
You assume a lot of tears from us Mr Makk, but it was just another fight and we did well considering how outnumbered we were. I haven't seen any of us crying during (nor after) the fight, sorry to disapoint you.
"Minor drawback", like losing all your space? Haha.
Outnumbered? There were about 50 on each side were there not? I think some of our allies joined in near the end but, to be fair, we jumped into you (we know CVA would never have the balls) and there was a Tread fleet a system behind us.
It was a good fight and I suppose we should thank you for the first decent engagement since J6. Still you did get smacked.
p.s. I enjoyed you losing your ceptor before the fight like a one day old pilot.
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