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Kikki Di'je
Lay Low
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Posted - 2010.04.14 18:16:00 -
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Edited by: Kikki Di''je on 14/04/2010 18:16:42 This "rule" is in effect so when certain alliance leadership see's you talking in local, they can run into the bedroom, put on a laced black nightgown, a baby diaper, a ****** stash, a whip and a beret so they can start screaming at you on teamspeak/vent and make empty hollow threats about fines, blowing you up and the such while sitting on an enlarged erotic toy meant for females.
Edit: Wow ****** is blocked out by the filter? Well, replace the *'s with the guy who ran the German party during WWII who everyone with the Allies hated.
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 18:20:00 -
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"the german party"
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.04.14 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftgaze "the german party"
because **** is also blocked
Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
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Wheater Petestraw
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Posted - 2010.04.14 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Hyveres "Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Vulcan Raven, The Last Days Of Foxhound
When you have to shoot, SHOOT. Don't Talk.
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Kikki Di'je
Lay Low
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Posted - 2010.04.14 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftgaze "the german party"
How about the guys with the SS since everything else is blocked you forum nub.
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Taedrin
Gallente Xovoni Directorate
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Posted - 2010.04.14 18:34:00 -
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Why not talk in local in 0.0 (or low sec either, for that matter)
Tactical reasons: 1) If you chat in local, that let's people know that you are at the computer and active, as opposed to AFK. This gives them a degree of intel that you may not want them to have. 2) People could accidentally say something that they shouldn't let neutrals know. 3) To avoid entertaining the enemy. This is especially important when you are being camped by the enemy. If you start chatting with the enemy, they won't get bored. If they don't get bored than they won't leave. If they won't leave, they deal more economic damage to you as you can not rat/mine/plex/whatever. So by keeping local empty, they get bored faster and therefore leave faster.
Social reasons: 1) To cut down on smack talk. In general, if nobody chats in local, nobody will smack talk. Smack talk is generally considered against "e-honor". Some people advocate that you should have a certain amount of e-honor, while others will advocate that e-honor is pointless, meaningless and stupid to follow.
2) To avoid making a fool out of yourself/your friends/your corp/your alliance. Especially if you just suffered a humiliating defeat and your opponents are smack talking you and you are attempting to come up with a come back. This is also possible if you just had an insignificant victory and you start bragging about it in local.
In general, I would say that chatting in local is actually OK so long as you are thoughtful and careful about what you say. There isn't anything wrong with a bit of friendly banter in local every now and then.
Also, to the OP: If they tell you that they are going to kill you when they find you, then they aren't friendly. Why should you obey the orders of someone who tells you that they are going to kill you if they ever have the chance? The people who determine what the rules that you follow are the ones in charge of YOUR organization, not some random gang. Now, if that random gang holds any sort of influence in that system, then it might be in your best interests to avoid a confrontation with them (do what they tell you so that they don't shoot you). On the other hand, it might be better for you to just to hide until they leave and go back to ratting, and resupply at another location, be it a friendly station, NPC station or empire.
In the end, YOU are the one in control of YOUR actions. Everything everyone else tells you are merely suggestions and things to consider when determining your actions. You could decide that you don't care if you make a fool of yourself in local. Just realize that there is always a consequence for any action you take. If you upset someone, they choose how they will react, and not you. YOu could find that after making a fool of yourself, that someone gets annoyed at you and wardecs you. You could find that your CEO gets upset at you and boots you from the corp.
Anyways, my tl;dr piece of advice for you is: Do what ever you want, but think about the consequences first before determining what you want to do. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kikki Di'je
Originally by: Swiftgaze "the german party"
How about the guys with the SS since everything else is blocked you forum nub.
Sure but then you'd still be talking ****. You nub. ;)
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Kikki Di'je
Lay Low
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Posted - 2010.04.14 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftgaze
Originally by: Kikki Di'je
Originally by: Swiftgaze "the german party"
How about the guys with the SS since everything else is blocked you forum nub.
Sure but then you'd still be talking ****. You nub. ;)
I cannot confirm nor deny this, but this could possibly be fact, maybe.
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Eskalin
Minmatar Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 19:07:00 -
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go ahead **** talk in local. feels good man
If babies weren't to be eaten they wouldn't be hibachi sized
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RentableMuffin
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Posted - 2010.04.14 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Wacktopia It's a bad habbit to get into, talking in local. It's best to just avoid it completely.
It starts of with what you think is idle, friendly chat and ends up with hostiles gaining useful information about you.
For example...
You> o/ Someone> 07 You> Howz it going? Someone> Ok, you? You> Yeah good. Someone> Where you from my friend You> I'm from the USA, you? Someone> I'm from rainy UK You> Lol Someone> Just saw you ;) You> Cool, that Sansha lord was pounding me lol
Ok, it's a cheesy example but from this you could find out...
- What hours you are likely to play the game, and possibly the rest of your corp - You are both belt-hopping - That you are probably in a ratting ship
This could be enough info to come and gank you or it could even sway a war with another alliance in their favour because they now know what hours of the day you will be online or offline.
Careless talk costs lives.
if they are in system to see that chat they are in system and can use the directional scanner to also see that.
and if they can't find out your alliances online times, they are pretty fail. plus there are enough people out there that play at completely random times peak times are hard to figure out from little chats like that.
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Kosa Mosapiel
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Posted - 2010.04.14 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Hesperius
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2010.04.14 19:34:00 -
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It's not so much talking in local but what you're talking about in local. It's a lot easier for a corp/alliance to say "don't talk in local" than to say "don't say this and this or this in local" and have to watch out to make sure nobody is slipping up.
Also sometimes it's better to just let the other guys believe you're AFK or whatever.
Mostly it's just a bunch of paranoid, overbearing nonsense.
edit: and just to remind you, there is still no divider between posts and sigs.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Swag Co. Sandbox Bullies
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Posted - 2010.04.14 20:47:00 -
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The general rule in my Corp is simple..."dont be an AZZ to people in local, they just might be a total badazz and bring thier 30 buddies in BS to stomp you...and it makes the Corp look bad when your an azzhat to people."
"I have just as much authority as the empress, just not as many people that believe it." |
AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.14 20:56:00 -
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As CEO, I direct my underlings to talk in local. Preferably in caps, too, because it annoys people to no end.
If you're lucky, rich macrominers will sic mercs on you \o/
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.04.14 21:07:00 -
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The general rule for us is no smack talking in local. If its during a war and the war targets are trying to get you to smack talk by acting like idiots (spamming you with convos,calling names and so on) we simply just say no talking at all with the targets. People tend to brag a bit to much when they are angry and that can cause important information to slip out. But if its nice people,and they have a good attitude both sides can enjoy some nice conversations in local and private chats both during and after the war is ended.
For the op. Are you sure the person in question told you not to talk in local or was he talking to his alliance/corp members? Its quite common that people dont pay attention to more then one chat at the time and he threw it out there to be sure they got the point. Phoibe Enterprises
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.04.14 21:25:00 -
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More than likely along the lines of this:
http://www.switched.com/2010/03/03/israeli-soldier-posts-military-details-on-facebook-cancels-west/
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar Welcome To The North
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Posted - 2010.04.14 21:32:00 -
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same as the 'don't speak on the forums you pay $15 a month to use' rules.
if you're being pleasant and mature, so others wont have to deal with the agro, who has the right to say what you can do?
remember you are doing your corp & alliance the favour by being in it and contributing, they are not doing you a favour by letting you be in it and contribute your ships and time and isk. Without you all, they would shrivel and die, so the next time someone tells you what you can or can't do and provides no agreeable justification, remind them of that fact, in force ;P
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Napro
Caldari Buccaneers of New Eden death from above..
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Posted - 2010.04.14 21:40:00 -
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Well I'm glad you didnt fall for that ripoff... I can tell you for only 35 million
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.04.14 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 14/04/2010 22:11:15
Originally by: Lutz Major First of all: YES! I'm a complete noob regarding 0.0 habits (and still many other things in EVE ).
A few days ago, I've been to Providence with my new shiny Stealth, ratting and annihilating NPCs. I soon ran out of ammo and asked a local gang in JEIV-E, whether I could dock their station and resupply.
I got three answers: 1) No. Blues only 2) A friendly warning, if they'd catch me, they'd kill me 3) and not to talk in local
I understood the first two, but could not befriend with the last one. So after the brutal and heroic two-hour war against rats, I was in an euphorical high and asked the guy who told me the latter: "Why no talking in local?". His answer was a simply: "How could I not know after a year of EVE gaming?" and he left.
Well, I then asked some other guys in JEIV-E by private convo. Four told me, they use voice only and two said "because you don't speak in local". Three other guys told me to shove off and one said: "I'll tell you for 50M".
Don't get me wrong: Jita local sucks and I hate small talk in open channels. But why should a lonesome ranger far, far from home not ask a simple question in local?
tl;dr: Why is it custom to not talk in 0.0 local?
Thanks and regards, Lutz
Because I asked them not to.
Quote: remember you are doing your corp & alliance the favour by being in it and contributing, they are not doing you a favour by letting you be in it and contribute your ships and time and isk. Without you all, they would shrivel and die, so the next time someone tells you what you can or can't do and provides no agreeable justification, remind them of that fact, in force ;P
Anyone is, of course, at liberty to behave any way they please in EVE. However, if they choose not to follow the guidelines we establish to help maintain both security and good sportsmanship, they will be doing so elsewhere.
===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you. |
Tramp Oline
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Posted - 2010.04.14 22:09:00 -
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The main reason that I hate people talking in local is because I have a lot of other chat windows open that I'm monitoring and if my local chat window blinks then it's just one more that I have constantly take a look at.
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Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2010.04.14 22:25:00 -
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Like hapless zebra on the Serengeti being tracked by lions, a player who brays loudly in 0.0 local like a dumb beast is announcing that he's prey. Whereas the lions don't make a sound until after they've caught the zebra and begin tearing its insides out.
I treat traveling and living in 0.0 like walking through the scummiest, most poverty stricken and dangerous part of town at 2am. You wouldn't go prancing through there idly chatting to anybody you walk past. You don't draw attention to yourself because that will make you a target. You keep your head down and your mouth shut. -- Eventus stultorum magister. |
Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.14 22:27:00 -
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All the best corps in EVE will let you say whatever the hell you want, when you want.
- Malyutka (The Virus) - |
Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2010.04.14 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: Arthur Frayn on 14/04/2010 22:43:23
Originally by: Rawr Cristina All the best corps in EVE will let you say whatever the hell you want, when you want.
Would that be because they don't care if your stupidity gets you podded? |
Ick Ickagami
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Posted - 2010.04.14 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn .........I treat traveling and living in 0.0 like walking through the scummiest, most poverty stricken and dangerous part of town at 2am. You wouldn't go prancing through there idly chatting to anybody you walk past............
Chuck Norris does.
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Eternum Praetorian
Method In Khaos
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Posted - 2010.04.15 00:07:00 -
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Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 15/04/2010 00:08:50 I have been told to shut up while I was in 0.0 alliances . . .
Presently, my corp supports spelling badly and sh**alking in all capitals while on 0.0 roams. It is quite liberating and I like it much better <3
I can't tell you how many time I have been PM'd by old friends saying "hey man what are you doing here LOL" while on a roam. We have a chat, catch up a bit, and then said old friend often passes on a little bit of hush hush insider intel.
It is a game, have fun playing it. Screw that 40 year old virgin leading your alliance, who is getting rich off of your taxes. Make your own policy.
Edit:
Bruce Lee > then Chuck Norris Mmkay?
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.15 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn Edited by: Arthur Frayn on 14/04/2010 22:43:23
Originally by: Rawr Cristina All the best corps in EVE will let you say whatever the hell you want, when you want.
Would that be because they don't care if your stupidity gets you podded?
No, that would be because the best corps don't enlist idiots and constantly babysit them. One of our mottos in Elysium is "Troll local every day", and nobody is afraid of what will happen, nor am I afraid of what people will think of our members.
The top management of every corporation or alliance that enlists members who they are embarassed of deserves to be shot, tbh. (ingame)
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.04.15 00:37:00 -
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When I fly into a 0.0 system with people I dont know i always give a friendly greeting. It seems to make me unique.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2010.04.15 00:57:00 -
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First rule of local: You do not talk in local. Second rule of local: You do not talk in local. __________
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.15 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftgaze
And why don't those IT guys ever talk to me in local? (Well a few of them are funny, I admit. Are they allowed to talk at all?)
Not sure about IT, but BoB were fine with it, and it was great
I remember when I lived in Delve a year ago during the Goon takeover, was killing Goons and BoB alike and it was great 'cause there'd always be something to read in local. One time we and some local BoB pilots were bored so agreed to do a wormhole in the system together and amazingly it didn't end in us shooting each other
funny thing is, I ended up liking the goonies a lot more than the nobodies from random alliance x who were always silent 'cause otherwise their big bad leaders would spank them for bad behaviour
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Corduroy Rab
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2010.04.15 01:32:00 -
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Sometimes people don't do it for tactical reasons, sometimes for image reason but most the time it is because they have a stick up their butt.
...or are genuinely afk. ---- Proper piracy starts at home. |
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