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Lee Kin
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Posted - 2010.04.20 03:57:00 -
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CCP doesn't take screens as proof. If they did, I would. They don't though, so relax...he's safe for now.
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ChuckBass
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Posted - 2010.04.20 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: Lee Kin CCP doesn't take screens as proof. If they did, I would. They don't though, so relax...he's safe for now.
terrible, terrible troll
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.20 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lee Kin CCP doesn't take screens as proof. If they did, I would. They don't though, so relax...he's safe for now.
You don't seem to understand.
You're publicly calling Monkey a cheat.
I'm publicly calling you a Liar.
Post the screen shot and shut me up, prove me wrong, to ME, to the EVE community to which you've brought whinging to.
I don't care what CCP accepts as proof, I WANT TO SEE THE SCREEN SHOT LINKED HERE.
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Salastil
Gallente ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.20 04:05:00 -
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Monkeysphere actually gave me the UI injection program that is based off the 2007-08 UI leak. Thats how I caught Tweakboy and his other Tengu alt yesterday. I simply logged out of local and tackled them at the anonmaly and belt.
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Kazaux Aux
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.20 04:08:00 -
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Originally by: Salastil Eve chat is just a MIRC server, you can close and leave channels. We figured out how to close the local one, big whoop deal with it.
we only can do that with those slash (/) devtools we found though
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Lee Kin
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Posted - 2010.04.20 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Lee Kin CCP doesn't take screens as proof. If they did, I would. They don't though, so relax...he's safe for now.
You don't seem to understand.
You're publicly calling Monkey a cheat.
I'm publicly calling you a Liar.
Post the screen shot and shut me up, prove me wrong, to ME, to the EVE community to which you've brought whinging to.
I don't care what CCP accepts as proof, I WANT TO SEE THE SCREEN SHOT LINKED HERE.
I'm not calling him anything, just being honest as to what I saw. You're being a salty little punk posturing in a way you most likely wouldn't have the guts to if we were to meet irl. So stand down skinny college kid, I don't sweat you. I am now laughing with others on vent as we all watch his movie:P
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.20 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lee Kin
I'm not calling him anything, just being honest as to what I saw. You're being a salty little punk posturing in a way you most likely wouldn't have the guts to if we were to meet irl. So stand down skinny college kid, I don't sweat you. I am now laughing with others on vent as we all watch his movie:P
You must have taken screen shots of me as well, for you are right, I am skinny, and in college, there can be no doubt as to the truth of all of your words now.
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Opertone
Caldari SIEGE. Reckoning.
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Posted - 2010.04.20 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Salastil Monkeysphere actually gave me the UI injection program that is based off the 2007-08 UI leak. Thats how I caught Tweakboy and his other Tengu alt yesterday. I simply logged out of local and tackled them at the anonmaly and belt.
troll? Proof or BBQ. I you have cheats, then I demand a macaca.
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IsoMetricanTaliac 2
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.04.20 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon Could it be, by some odd chance or by many of lifes numerous potential distractions, that your percetion of time is scewed by more then a few seconds?
I know this is an ass of a question, but I had to ask either way.
Slade
This is what I think has happened also for the time frame as it isn't hard to lose track when your fighting for your life or whatever.
In a Time When Many Will Seek Death, There Will Always Be Those Like Me Who Won't Mind Helping Them Along Their Way!?! |
Arvano
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Posted - 2010.04.20 04:42:00 -
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Alright, I've read this entire thread. Let me see if I got this straight.
Someone in EVE is not showing up in local, and is appearing, almost like magic, mere inches from other peoples' ships, catching them entirely off guard, giving no chance of escape or evasive actions, and popping them almost instantly -
and you all have decided that this is completely fine, and that the only people affected are botters/scripters/other people who generally use illegal programs to play the game for them whilst they are AFK.
Am I correct? If I am correct, then I don't understand that attitude. If someone is jumping into a system, not showing up on the local chat, and appearing like magic *poof* in front of your ship almost instantly, then at best an exploit is being used, and at worst something more serious is being used.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.20 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Arvano
Am I correct?
No
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.04.20 05:08:00 -
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Here is proofs of monkey shere hacs in my local, you can see uncloq effect around his mordu rapire and no evidence in local, as you can see local has not been dottored for photoshops.
He kill my macro ratbot tristan with machariel moment later.
I think this is best evidence so far of this phenomenoms. ~_~
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.20 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lee Kin
As a side note, with the use of locater agents we found that the server has trouble tracking him at times as well.
Just wanted to come back to this little tid bit right here.
It would seem you are unable to properly work your locator agent.
The fine gentlemen on the EVE-RU forum, have several posts tracking Monkey with agents.
Even in wormholes it seems to be finding him JUST fine.
Seems pretty easy to find to me
So, got that picture uploaded yet?
Eve files will do just fine, just link it
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Dodgy Past
Amarr Debitum Naturae BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.04.20 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 19/04/2010 23:03:58
Originally by: Zarstrax
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 So if what he does is not considered an exploit by CCP would anyone mind posting exactly it is what he does or link to a page in English (if at all possible)?
He won't say. I guess it's a valuable secret.
Well, if it's not an exploit it sounds like a helluva "technique" .
Really does say something about you that you'd rather believe macro ratters and accuse someone killing them of 'hax' ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- you seem determined to turn it into ******* Hollyoaks for neckbeards. |
Johanes Sajer
Don't Taze Me Bro
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Posted - 2010.04.20 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Gunnanmon Were you spying on yourself? Maybe you're not trustworthy.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.04.20 05:56:00 -
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. o O ( If I ever wrote a bot I'd add some special code in it that made it not warp out when my characters or those of my friends entered local )
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Thatkidnamedrocky
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.20 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab . o O ( If I ever wrote a bot I'd add some special code in it that made it not warp out when my characters or those of my friends entered local )
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Ralara
Caldari Vivicide Vivisection.
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Posted - 2010.04.20 06:32:00 -
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Edited by: Ralara on 20/04/2010 06:34:49 Well you're safe for a day or so, I think he's currently stuck in a class 3 wormhole trying to get out
He doesn't exploit as far as I can tell, I've entered systems where he's been in there with his alts, cloaked - I'm sure if he didn't want to be found and had this "exploit" (which AFAIK has been patched, Burn Eden's used it before it was fixed) he wouldn't have been in local. --
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casai
Caldari North Eastern Swat
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Posted - 2010.04.20 07:46:00 -
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This is sourcery people im calling it right now
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.04.20 07:49:00 -
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No one disputered my proofs. More proofs. ~_~
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Seth Ruin
Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.
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Posted - 2010.04.20 08:13:00 -
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My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Monkeysphere disappear from local. I guess it's pretty serious.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.04.20 10:04:00 -
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Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 20/04/2010 10:04:56
Originally by: Lady Spank No one disputered my proofs. More proofs.
If you're gonna fake something, you really should get better a photoshop, or gimp or whatever you used, first.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.20 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Grath Telkin What are you talking about?
I'm asking a simple question: Does this only affect cheaters or not? Can this be used on someone that is NOT a macro? It's a simple yes or no question.
Quote: Let me explain:
Nobody cares.
Some people DO care. Not everyone is a macro, you know. It just sounds to me like you're justifying the validity of this technique "because of macros". I don't use macros and would like to know if this in any way whatsoever would affect a player AT THE KEYBOARD. I asked the quesiton and you evaded it. Why?
Quote: The entirety of the russian community is pretty much seen as Macros, so your complaints fall on deaf ears (this will offend some people, but sometimes, the truth is offensive).
Not everybody is Russian. Not everybody is a macro. But nice generalizations there .
Quote: You abuse a macro, to keep your ship safe, in essence, playing in god mode, with log offs, cloaks, and any other thing you can possibly use to NEVER EVER GET KILLED.
I really don't know why it is so difficult for you to understand NOT EVERYONE IS USING MACROS! I can't simply make it any clearer to you. Why are you insisting anyone ratting at a belt must be a macro and thus deserves to have this technique used on them?
Quote: Somebody, found a way around your system.
[sigh] MY SYSTEM? Are you on drugs?
Quote: Actually, its more than just one person who knows how to beat it, but you'll find that out over the next few weeks as your macro accounts die with more and more frequency.
My macro accounts? You keep accusing everyone questioning the use of this technique as "macros"? Again, does this ONLY affect macro accounts?
Quote: We complained, and filed those complaints with CCP.
They did nothing, as your macros are easily able evade CCP's leaky logs that always "show nothing".
Yes, my macros .
Quote: Do you really think, after years of you getting away with basically playing immune to the rules the rest of the games legal players had to face, that ANYBODY gives a damn if your getting farmed like the rats in your belts?
Yes, my macros. Why do you insist I'm using macros and therefore I deserve to have this technique used on me? Never encountered this monkey guy, never had this technique done on me. However, given that the technique seems a little strange I'd like to know if it would affect me (A PLAYER AT THE KEYBOARD NOT USING ANY MACROS).
Quote: Cry more, over the next few weeks, I'd expect to see your systems filling with people using the same technique.
I hope you enjoy it.
Not crying. Questioning the validity of a technique that seems a little 'out of place'. Being able to delay the appearance in local seems a little strange, as to my knowledge there are no mechanics in place that allow for such a technique to be used other than in WH space.
I'm curious as to why you keep emphasizing that the "technique" is justified in being used because of macros. And I'm even more curious as to why you haven't been upfront on whether this technique explicitly affects macro accounts (ie, doesn't affect players at the keyboard).
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Poison Punch
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Posted - 2010.04.20 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lee Kin
Originally by: Grath Telkin Edited by: Grath Telkin on 20/04/2010 03:12:59
Originally by: Lee Kin Except it's not a log in trap. It's a hack that masks you in local until you have a target and are ready to engage.
What your doing is called Slander, you should look it up.
Can you PROVE it?
EDIT: because I can prove what I'm saying, but somehow, I doubt you can.
Settle down young man. I'm not angry about it as he's never done anything to me. I have been a gang as one of several cloaked scouts that observed him doing this though. He traveled 7 jumps right past us without ever showing in local. We watched him at gates and saw him appear in local as he engaged somebody. CCP won't accept fraps or screenshots as proof, so what can you do? Just keep playing. As a side note, with the use of locater agents we found that the server has trouble tracking him at times as well.
i saw you use a local invisibility cheat once as well, so i don't know how you have any right to complain.
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Ded MATAP
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Posted - 2010.04.20 10:47:00 -
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Matrix, look at monkey's killboard.
I doubt that all these ppl was macros. So yes, he can use his "Sure Win" method on "player at keyboard" as well.
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Dodgy Past
Amarr Debitum Naturae BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.04.20 10:48:00 -
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Simple comment.... if it's such a big deal and people have been seeing this happen why have their been no links to pictures.
Your crusade against anyone that attacks carebears is getting rather pathetic., and you seem to be over identifying with the victims.
I would once again suggest that this is more a case of clever scouting followed by a killing rampage using the information that has been gathered, and the likelihood that many of the victims are using macros so don't know exactly what happened.
I assume you actually have yet to be a victim since you'd never dare set move away from the relative safety of hi sec. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- you seem determined to turn it into ******* Hollyoaks for neckbeards. |
Taua Roqa
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.04.20 10:57:00 -
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Edited by: Taua Roqa on 20/04/2010 10:59:18 it's just a simple code injection @ the network level between client and server, as the chat channels are hosted by a server not connected to the system node shards(as stated by GMs), you can prevent yourself from showing up in local by brownboxing the network stack. Stops you appearing in all other channels too, unfortunately, but no much of a problem.
edit: that people think this is a joke is p funny, it's only been leaked now cos a macro that can vaguely speak english has blabbed on the forums.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.20 11:03:00 -
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Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 20/04/2010 11:06:52
Originally by: Dodgy Past Simple comment.... if it's such a big deal and people have been seeing this happen why have their been no links to pictures.
Your crusade against anyone that attacks carebears is getting rather pathetic., and you seem to be over identifying with the victims.
I would once again suggest that this is more a case of clever scouting followed by a killing rampage using the information that has been gathered, and the likelihood that many of the victims are using macros so don't know exactly what happened.
I assume you actually have yet to be a victim since you'd never dare set move away from the relative safety of hi sec.
Are we supposed to trust that this "technique" will never be used on a non-cheating player? . Do we just take Pandemic Legion's word that, if they indeed are using an exploit, it will only be used on other cheaters? And if indeed they've found an exploit, that they get to decide who is macroing and who isn't? And thus, they can justly decide who this "technique" is used on? Really? Scout's honor? .
Originally by: Taua Roqa Edited by: Taua Roqa on 20/04/2010 10:59:18 it's just a simple code injection @ the network level between client and server, as the chat channels are hosted by a server not connected to the system node shards(as stated by GMs), you can prevent yourself from showing up in local by brownboxing the network stack. Stops you appearing in all other channels too, unfortunately, but no much of a problem.
edit: that people think this is a joke is p funny, it's only been leaked now cos a macro that can vaguely speak english has blabbed on the forums.
I'm sorry but this sounds like an exploit/hack . Can anyone clarify why this would not be considered cheating?
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
fivetide humidyear
Gallente Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2010.04.20 11:09:00 -
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space russians > all at not having a clue about game mechanics and what happens when you logofski or more particularly logonski.
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Rellik B00n
Minmatar Lethal Death Squad
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Posted - 2010.04.20 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Seth Ruin My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Monkeysphere disappear from local. I guess it's pretty serious.
I heard that you were feeling ill Headache, fever, and a chill I came to help restore your pluck Cause I'm the nurse who likes to
Thread of April award. + LDSkill+hireLDS |
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