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D melanogaster
Minmatar The Fruit Flys
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Posted - 2010.05.06 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Corsair Blade Edited by: Corsair Blade on 05/05/2010 23:57:56 http://evajobse.net/
I find it telling that in your CV placed on this site of yours you claim to have been employed by CCP.
Doing volunteer work does not mean you are employed by said firm.
lol..
under specific skills she has: "broad general knowledge and structured and logical thought
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.06 18:09:00 -
[332]
Originally by: Daemonspirit You guys do realize that with all your whining and *****ing and moaning about Ank's positions/statements/stuff, that you've pretty much whipped up any idiot that has ever been scammed, ganked or suicided into voting for her?
I'm predicting that Ank makes it onto the CSM again - and that the trolls in this thread, instead of hurting her chances, are actually helping her...
If you really wanted her out - you should have just ignored her - now she's a *celebrity* carebear...
Yeah, but she was before too. Realistically, there's no way we were ever going to keep her off the CSM.
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
Originally by: Dirk Mortice yeah, only we're not trolling. We're making serious points and she continues to ignore them or cry troll the moment she sees a comment that isn't in agreement with her. She backpeddles and has contradicted herself multiple times and has stated she doesn't even enjoy the game.
Uh huh, no trolling here, none whatsoever, I've never seen a less trolled thread in all my days of EVE. It's an outrage ppl are being demonised here!
Yeah, there's been some trolling in this thread, it'd be hard to deny that. But there's a lot less than Ankh claims. Asking a serious question in a mean way isn't trolling, it's just being slightly jerkish. But tossing up softballs is not the job of a critic. This thread could stand to be more polite, but the questions and concerns being raised are legitimate.
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Dakisha
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.06 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Killer Gandry I actaully admire someone who has the backbone to let trolls spam their crap and just plain ignore them instead of going into a flame war.
Yeah, because asking someone to explain why they say one thing and yet their quotes show them saying something totally different is really trolling..
All I've seen so far is a candidate that ignores questions she doesn't like and pretends her old quotes don't exist when they come back to bite. That and people supporting this behaviour.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.06 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: NereSky Well regardless what the trolls say, ive read every single link provided and absorbed as much as i can, ive only ever voted once for Vuk and since then nver voted or gave any interest to the CSM, however after reading Annk's manifesto - ive given her my 2 votes as she seems to be someone i would like to represent myself with my varied and wide experiences of the game.
Ankh 2 votes winging your way
Originally by: Killer Gandry I actaully admire someone who has the backbone to let trolls spam their crap and just plain ignore them instead of going into a flame war.
I tip my hat for Eva Jobse that she can actually manage to just stay constructive in the replies towards the real questions and completely ignore the ****s. This is far better than I could have done.
The thing I also like is that she looks at the whole game and not just at the narrow vieuw of the PvP crowd. They all call EVE mainlt PvP focussed. Well in some way they are right, but market PvP is a lot more work that a gatecamp. Trade is way bigger than PvP since as soon as someone sells or buys they actually partake in trading. And to be fair, not 100% does the pew pew thingy, but 100% does to the trade thingy in one way or another.
Thanks a lot for voicing your support!
Let me know if there's anything I can do after the elections, and stay in touch!
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Space Pinata
Amarr Discount Napkin Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.06 20:09:00 -
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You cannot say "I don't like raising the term limit" and then immediately "But I'm going to take advantage of it to run again."
Apparently, fighting in a video game is immoral, but being an unashamed liar is not immoral.
Ankhe contradicts herself in the same sentence, ignores and refuses to confirm/deny her previous statements, and has simply stopped replying with anything except "You're all mean trolls".
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Even if you agree with her politics, how can you put your faith in a CSM candidate who will simply cower in the corner and call the other representatives trolls if they don't agree with her?
She's proven herself completely incapable of handling herself in a rational debate or justifying her statements. She refuses to respond or disprove her detractors.
If you have ever done any kind of PVP ever, it's obvious why voting for her would be a terrible idea.
If you have NOT done any kind of PVP ever, it would still be a wasted vote better spent on someone with the backbone to stand up for their own ideas, rather than hiding and covering her eyes at the first sight of opposition.
Even if you're the most bleeding heart carebear, your vote is deserved by someone with the guts to actually push their ideas. |
TigerWoman
Amarr The Circle Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.05.06 21:06:00 -
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first off i did not share ankh's views and did not vote for her, but the amount of trolling and ****storming done in this very thread are kinda disturbing, while some guys tried to stay mature and ask questions some others are running a "omg-carebear" campaign and just try to make her look miserable whenever they can.
csm is playing democracy online, and what is done here is just yellow press quality threadnaughting, when you do not like ank do not vote her.
this thread is so full of mudslinging that it gives the intention that if you would not go here and sling mud ank might get elected, but instead of actually preventing that election by supporting your candidate you have created an propaganda campaign visuall for any carebear all time, and have done so in most of the time rly not appropiate ways.
if all this would have been a pr stunt it would be just brilliant.
congratulations you have just boosted the votes of your least favourite csm candidate.
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CanIHave YourStuff
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Posted - 2010.05.06 21:32:00 -
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Space Pinata
Amarr Discount Napkin Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.06 21:52:00 -
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Quote: this thread is so full of mudslinging that it gives the intention that if you would not go here and sling mud ank might get elected, but instead of actually preventing that election by supporting your candidate you have created an propaganda campaign visuall for any carebear all time, and have done so in most of the time rly not appropiate ways.
Confirming direct quotes are mud slinging. |
Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.06 21:53:00 -
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Vote Ankh for cleaner forums!
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Chack'Nul
GK inc. Panda Team
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Posted - 2010.05.06 21:59:00 -
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Edited by: Chack''Nul on 06/05/2010 21:59:30
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah *clearly stolen image*
Vote Ankh for cleaner forums!
That was a low blow.
Also sniped.
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Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.06 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah :image:
Vote Ankh for cleaner forums!
Wow...just wow. --- Vote me for CSM. Low-sec? I got that. Delayed local? You know I got that. Industry love? Oh baby I'm gonna blow. Feel fr |
Asruv'ynn
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Posted - 2010.05.06 22:08:00 -
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Ankh, I'm having difficulties accessing your current campaign video.
Good luck, regardless!
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steejans nix
Amarr 0beron Construct Rat Pack Renegades
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Posted - 2010.05.06 22:35:00 -
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Thing is she is on the carebear bandwaggon yet has no to little clue about the industrial side.
No pvp knowledge yet spouting crap on how she will "sort out " low and null sec. She is going to fix FW yet all she did was to exploit the bugs and use stabbed frigs with cloaks.
She " learned a great deal about life and war in 0.0 " yet was not in the CVA defense fleets or got involved in the running of the corp.
She very happy to jump on anything that sounds good and will be popular but there are balance issues that effect wider aspects of Eve and she is clueless, generally speaking these pvp'ers and pirates she hates so much have better all round knowledge of Eve as they all have carebear alt's or mains !!
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Marlona Sky
D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.05.06 22:37:00 -
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**** it. Why should the rest of us stand by and wait for CSM members to embarrass themselves and make a joke out of it when we can do it too. Voting for Ankhesentapemkah for the lulz factor. Her being on the CSM will be a non-stop troll to the rest of them.
You movie was utter **** tbh. You talk thru your teeth which is really annoying too. All the same, the amount of tears you are generating is too good to pass up.
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Sini Polkush
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Posted - 2010.05.06 22:45:00 -
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voting ankh just to see the drama unfold :) This idiot has a year of hell ahead of her.. but i kinda lost interest to care because she has a thing of putting the point through that my own amusement > then her mental household.
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Larkonis Trassler
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.06 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky **** it. Why should the rest of us stand by and wait for CSM members to embarrass themselves and make a joke out of it when we can do it too. Voting for Ankhesentapemkah for the lulz factor. Her being on the CSM will be a non-stop troll to the rest of them.
You movie was utter **** tbh. You talk thru your teeth which is really annoying too. All the same, the amount of tears you are generating is too good to pass up.
I'm inclined to agree. The CSM will need a good secretary to do all the woman's work anyway. I've already voted so you won't be seeing any from me though...
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.07 05:00:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 07/05/2010 05:00:40
Okay, seriously... you state under your EMPLOYMENT HISTORY in your CV:
Quote:
2008-2009 CCP Games Hf., Reykjavik Council of Stellar Management Player-Developer Communication, Game Design, Game Mechanics Analysis, Documentation, Wiki-implementation
This isn't a troll against your CSM campaign and there's no spin here. Unless you've collected a paycheck from CCP or you're going to argue that CSM = Employment, you've not been 'employed' by them in any way. ---- CEO - BDCI "AAA is a collection of fail leftovers from cascaded alliances such as RISE, IAC, MC and ASCN." - Anton Marx |
Trader Jen
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Posted - 2010.05.07 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 07/05/2010 05:00:40
Okay, seriously... you state under your EMPLOYMENT HISTORY in your CV:
Quote:
2008-2009 CCP Games Hf., Reykjavik Council of Stellar Management Player-Developer Communication, Game Design, Game Mechanics Analysis, Documentation, Wiki-implementation
This isn't a troll against your CSM campaign and there's no spin here. Unless you've collected a paycheck from CCP or you're going to argue that CSM = Employment, you've not been 'employed' by them in any way.
wow that's pretty good...although, technically, the free trip to Iceland could be marked down as "payment"
+1 to you Seleene |
NereSky
Gallente Maelstrom Crew Paradigm Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.07 05:50:00 -
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Im suprised at you Seleene, thought u had better things to do if im honest
Employment is a contract between two parties, one being the employer and the other being the employee. An employee may be defined as: "A person in the service of another under any contract of hire, express or implied, oral or written, where the employer has the power or right to control and direct the employee in the material details of how the work is to be performed." Black's Law Dictionary page 471 (5th ed. 1979).
So Technically in essence someone can be employed without renumeration or written contract. Personally i wouldnt call it employment but thats my own definition i dont believe there was any intention to decieve.
But i suppose when you get involved in politics even in a game more people want to stab you in the back bring you down and basically treat people like dirt but hey thats Eve online
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mazzilliu
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.07 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: NereSky Im suprised at you Seleene, thought u had better things to do if im honest
Employment is a contract between two parties, one being the employer and the other being the employee. An employee may be defined as: "A person in the service of another under any contract of hire, express or implied, oral or written, where the employer has the power or right to control and direct the employee in the material details of how the work is to be performed." Black's Law Dictionary page 471 (5th ed. 1979).
So Technically in essence someone can be employed without renumeration or written contract.
So if i am at a dinner, with, say, the president and he asks me to pass the salt, this means i can say on my resume that I served under the President of the United States. Awesome.
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NereSky
Gallente Maelstrom Crew Paradigm Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.07 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: mazzilliu
Originally by: NereSky Im suprised at you Seleene, thought u had better things to do if im honest
Employment is a contract between two parties, one being the employer and the other being the employee. An employee may be defined as: "A person in the service of another under any contract of hire, express or implied, oral or written, where the employer has the power or right to control and direct the employee in the material details of how the work is to be performed." Black's Law Dictionary page 471 (5th ed. 1979).
So Technically in essence someone can be employed without renumeration or written contract.
So if i am at a dinner, with, say, the president and he asks me to pass the salt, this means i can say on my resume that I served under the President of the United States. Awesome.
Lol im not suprised at that response by you.
I believe it means that if you are given a job to do with direction and clear goals (ie the CSM) under the service of another (ie CCP & Eve online players) contract being verbal or written (i believe you guys sign some paperwork/disclaimer). CCP directs and controls the CSM to a extent as they get you to Iceland i would say also provide accom and food etc.
In the UK immigration can arrest a immigrant in work where their passport says they cant, if they argue hey im not getting paid, the counter arguement is , well u receive food/accom thats payment ur gone byebye. - Passing salt to the president is a grosse example of misunderstanding and over simplfacation of what im trying to say and underlines to me what i hate about politics and the CSM, but this year ive decided to give it a chance and see what good may come from it.
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mazzilliu
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.07 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: NereSky
Originally by: mazzilliu
Originally by: NereSky Im suprised at you Seleene, thought u had better things to do if im honest
Employment is a contract between two parties, one being the employer and the other being the employee. An employee may be defined as: "A person in the service of another under any contract of hire, express or implied, oral or written, where the employer has the power or right to control and direct the employee in the material details of how the work is to be performed." Black's Law Dictionary page 471 (5th ed. 1979).
So Technically in essence someone can be employed without renumeration or written contract.
So if i am at a dinner, with, say, the president and he asks me to pass the salt, this means i can say on my resume that I served under the President of the United States. Awesome.
Lol im not suprised at that response by you.
I believe it means that if you are given a job to do with direction and clear goals (ie the CSM) under the service of another (ie CCP & Eve online players) contract being verbal or written (i believe you guys sign some paperwork/disclaimer). CCP directs and controls the CSM to a extent as they get you to Iceland i would say also provide accom and food etc.
In the UK immigration can arrest a immigrant in work where their passport says they cant, if they argue hey im not getting paid, the counter arguement is , well u receive food/accom thats payment ur gone byebye. - Passing salt to the president is a grosse example of misunderstanding and over simplfacation of what im trying to say and underlines to me what i hate about politics and the CSM, but this year ive decided to give it a chance and see what good may come from it.
So I could seriously put the CSM on my resume and an employer would take me seriously about it? hmm...
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.05.07 06:29:00 -
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Ankh you didn't answer to my question so why would I bother even look at your video (ps: You sound more ******ed than ever)
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Dierdra Vaal
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2010.05.07 09:14:00 -
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Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 07/05/2010 09:14:31 actually all CSM members sign an agreement that explicitly states that being on the CSM does not imply having a job with CCP and that it does not imply that you will be hired in the future.
While being on the CSM is definitely something you could put on your resume, you can't list it as 'Work experience' or phrase it in such a way that it seems CCP was your employer, as that is simply not true.
In fact, employees of CCP are not allowed to be on the CSM: it is a player council, not a dev council. CSM members are not employees by definition. Director of Education :: EVE University
CSM1 delegate and CSM3 chairman
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Face Palmer
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.05.07 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah http://evajobse.net/voteankhbear2.jpg Image changed into URL.Applebabe
Vote Ankh for cleaner forums!
O...M...F...G
I'm actually going to vote for this tard as I agree with the others here who are enjoying the lulz. The delusional and contradictory ramblings that spew forth from this individual and the responses provoked, provide endless entertainment.
Besides; CCP are hardly going to ruin the unique experience that is EvE due to one personĘs uninformed opinions... are they?
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.07 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Face Palmer enjoying the lulz. endless entertainment.
Absolutely, here at work we had a nice laugh about the CV nonsense a few minutes ago.
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Face Palmer
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.05.07 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Face Palmer enjoying the lulz. endless entertainment.
Absolutely, here at work we had a nice laugh about the CV nonsense a few minutes ago.
Well, if you can't laugh at yourself - who can you laugh at eh?
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Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2010.05.07 11:10:00 -
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Ignorance is bliss.
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Nikolai Vheranimen
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.07 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: NereSky Im suprised at you Seleene, thought u had better things to do if im honest
Employment is a contract between two parties, one being the employer and the other being the employee. An employee may be defined as: "A person in the service of another under any contract of hire, express or implied, oral or written, where the employer has the power or right to control and direct the employee in the material details of how the work is to be performed." Black's Law Dictionary page 471 (5th ed. 1979).
So Technically in essence someone can be employed without renumeration or written contract. Personally i wouldnt call it employment but thats my own definition i dont believe there was any intention to decieve.
But i suppose when you get involved in politics even in a game more people want to stab you in the back bring you down and basically treat people like dirt but hey thats Eve online
I can guarantee you that for someone wanting a job in the game industry, listing volunteer positions under employment is very, very bad form. They should be separate and explicitly listed as such. Come to think of it, it's true in all industries.
I believe there was intention to pad her resume, which is totally in tune with the rest of her public persona : a fraud. I'd expect it from an insecure 18 year old looking for a first job, not a 26 year old graduate...
Hint : no one with any realistic sense of self calls themselves an expert on anything less than a year after graduation, or mentions working on TWO MMOs without listing titles or shipping dates. Come on, you know I'm right :)
Whatever you do, don't vote for Ankhesentapemkah !!! An elitist ****** that wants only the rich to represent us. And make EvE Hello Kitty Online. Nuff said.... |
Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.07 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Vheranimen Hint : no one with any realistic sense of self calls themselves an expert on anything less than a year after graduation, or mentions working on TWO MMOs without listing titles or shipping dates.
Most rich elitist gaming companies have something called an NDA
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