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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.04.25 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rayahammer And why is it called ninja salvage if there is no risk involved at all?
Sigh... The term ninja salvagers is wrong indeed, JAWA's would be a way better description for them. Garbage collectors would be nice too.
About the risk there is plenty, Jawa probes out mission runner, jumps in and OOPS, finds himself in recon 3 Jawa happily works his way through the space garbage while the mission runner is still occupied with many rats. Jawa doesn't pay attention for one moment and mission runner runs out, OOPS now the Jawa has agro from the rats. And there are a few other moments i can think off but I'm too lazy atm.
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cBOLTSON
Caldari Shadow Legion. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.04.25 03:46:00 -
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Ok ok we have established that 'ninja salvaging' ****ed a lot of people of. We have also established that this is a valid game tactic by CCP.
Solutions - 1. Bring a salvage alt 2. Bring salvage friends 3. Let the ninja salvager make his way to a nice wreck and just before he gets there, pop the wreck! 4. Bring noob alt with web n scram, get him in position next to ninja salvager and warp ur main outta the mission in hope that the rats aggro the ninja salvager, web n scram him with ur noob alt and hope he gets poped by rats? 5. Fleet/convo them and ask if they want to salvage away for you and that you would be glad for them to do it! LEt them think they are safe salvaging away, then warp off hoping they are not paying attention. (You could also say he can have ur loot, hope he takes it then pop him without any concord action)
anyone have any other ideas?
TLDR - USE YOUR IMAGINATION! =]
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Captain Charismatic
Minmatar Honorless Internet Jerks
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Posted - 2010.04.25 05:02:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Charismatic on 25/04/2010 05:04:06 Man, I'm drowning in tears! This is like getting cake for nothing! Keep posting, it's absolutely delicious. :) From a ninja - please keep making me laugh. GG.
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Zavulon Sukkot
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.04.25 05:04:00 -
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Confirming that I am an evil little jawa. Gimme your loots! NATI. |
Griff McGriffin
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Posted - 2010.04.25 05:24:00 -
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Edited by: Griff McGriffin on 25/04/2010 05:29:15 My heart. It bleeds.
You make it sound like carebearing is... almost Difficult.
Also as far as investment goes: Cov-ops, rigs, sisters probes + launcher Astrometrics, Astrometric pinpointing, rangefinding and aquistion. Refining skills to turn your junk into my minerals. Fully fit mission capable bounty stealing/Mission tanking Battleship. Fully fit PvP battleship Infinate Frigates. Salvage ship Rigged industrial for taking all my loot to market to turn into ISK for me.
Not to mention actually learning to scan, evade, tank and fight.
Dont try and take the 'hard earned' line. Stick with: Ctrl-click, F1.
Edit: Forgot the optional orca.
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.04.25 05:27:00 -
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+1 for wall of text +1 for responses +1 for self righteousness
-1 for unoriginal topic (leave the dead horse alone) -1 suggesting a 'solution' to a perceived problem -1 for not understanding how the game works before signing up (lol idiot)
overall score: 0/10
Try again.
Originally by: salva dore Cloak should not be AFK solution. What do you think?
Originally by: AFK Cloaker
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Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2010.04.25 05:34:00 -
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I like "Jawa". Do you mind if I use it? Could be the name of a corp...
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shoopdeeeloop
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Posted - 2010.04.25 05:36:00 -
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Forgot teh Orca. Ninja-ing is nothing without teh Orca. :)
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Kariva
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Posted - 2010.04.25 05:37:00 -
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+1 Earning 20mil/h from salvage by ninja is ballanced...
Earning 5mil/h from salvage reprocess (t1 items) is unballanced so it will be changed next patch.
LOGIC...... CCP sux...
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Captain Charismatic
Minmatar Honorless Internet Jerks
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Posted - 2010.04.25 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: shoopdeeeloop Forgot teh Orca. Ninja-ing is nothing without teh Orca. :)
I loves it when I accidentally post as an alt I never use.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.04.25 05:45:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker I like "Jawa". Do you mind if I use it? Could be the name of a corp...
By all means.
You do realize where the name originates from, yes?
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2010.04.25 05:50:00 -
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People still do that ninja stuff?
I guess it's for the tears, because it sure can't be for the isk. Salvage is next to worthless since the rig change.
What a waste of time to train up an alt for such a pointless profession. But whatever spins your wheel, I suppose. It is a sandbox and people can do any waste of time thing they like.
While I don't think the profession should be nerfed in any way, I think the pilots still doing it are just not that smart. Much like the majority of the mission runners they annoy.
But since it keeps a good chunk of the EVE population busy doing Sweet F A, I get to do the things that make the game interesting and myself rich without much interference. I'm down with that. Don't change a thing.
Mr Epeen
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Zavulon Sukkot
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.04.25 06:05:00 -
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Edited by: Zavulon Sukkot on 25/04/2010 06:05:58
Originally by: Mr Epeen People still do that ninja stuff?
I guess it's for the tears, because it sure can't be for the isk. Salvage is next to worthless since the rig change.
:words:
Mr Epeen
Rig dealer spotted. The rigs are where the salvage money is made folks. Keep that in mind :) NATI. |
Captain Charismatic
Minmatar Honorless Internet Jerks
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Posted - 2010.04.25 06:10:00 -
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Rig dealer spotted. The rigs are where the salvage money is made folks. Keep that in mind :)
Aye on that one. :)But honestly, I don't ninja for the ISK as much as the fun / tears.
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Dian'h Might
Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.04.25 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn 10/10 for effort.
Your attempt to be subtle by making ninja salvagers look like a game design flaw was good, but ultimately you were too focused on the whine, so you were transparent. I'd give it 2/10 on subtlety for the intention, try to work on the execution.
The suggestion that missions should only be accessible to mission runners and their friends was a nice thing to slip in - had the troll been successful, no doubt this would have caused a nice little sidetrack despite being off your own topic.
Remove the personal grievance aspect (try taking on the role of a ninja salvager rather than a mission runner to obscure any personal agenda), and focus less on the whine at the core - hide it good and deep behind the game design commentary. The idea is to get people to agree with you and then realise the implications to cause cognitive dissonance, not to actually argue a point (since you have none).
Combining the creativity and effort with the fact that a few people felt the need to respond with dev quotes, I'll give you 5/10.
9/10 on the commentary
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Ashina Sito
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.04.25 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rayahammer
You mwd often in deadspace? Or do you just run the blockade?
Seripents Extravaganza. There are a few missions out there where you can use MWD's in them. I had thought that the MWD would help. I could get a +90% hit with combat probes at 4au with an alt with Astrometric's I and no other skills on the MWDing Proteus. Nether the Proteus or the Navy Domi drew the flies in, I cried. Although I got the CEO of Suddenly Ninja's with an AB Navy Domi.
My CSM Election Announcement
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sister jade
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Posted - 2010.04.25 10:34:00 -
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tears of anger :D
more like a flood of literary shiptoasting I once had a handle on life..
then the handle broke |
Ninetails o'Cat
League of Super Evil
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Posted - 2010.04.25 11:13:00 -
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Wait, people are still bothered about salvage after it's been proven that the majority of a missions value is in bounties and agent rewards as salvaging in anything other than a marauder is a waste of time, and also after the market crash in salvaged parts that the recent trit-hitting-rock-bottom even has had?
Ehluh Oh Ehluh!
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Johan Sabbat
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.04.25 12:07:00 -
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Personally I prefer Womble to Jawa, after all I'm a hi-sec carebear.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.04.25 12:20:00 -
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Now here's a little story To tell it is a must About an unsung hero That moves away your dust Some people make a fortune Other's earn a mint My old man don't earn much In fact....he's flippin'.....skint
Oh, my old man's a ninja He wears a ninja's hat He wears cor blimey trousers And he flies cheap tech I crap He looks a proper narner In his great big hob nailed boots He's got such a job to pull em up That he calls them daisy roots
Some folks give tips at Christmas And some of them forget So when he picks their wrecks up He spills some on the steps Now one old carebear got nasty And to eve general wrote Next time my old man went 'round there He punched him up the throat
Oh, my old man's a ninja He wears a ninja's hat He wears cor blimey trousers And he flies cheap tech I crap
I say, I say Duncan I 'er...I found a police dog in my dustbin (How do you know he's a police dog) He had a policeman with him
Though my old man's a ninja He's got a heart of gold He got married recently Though he's 86 years old We said 'Ear! Hang on Dad you're getting past your prime' He said 'Well when you get to my age' 'It helps to pass the time'
Oh, my old man's a ninja He wears a ninja's hat He wears cor blimey trousers And he flies cheap tech I crap
I say, I say, I say My dustwrecks full of lillies (Well throw 'em away then) I can't Lilly's wearing them
Now one day while in a hurry He missed a lady's bin He hadn't gone but a few yards When she chased after him 'What game do you think you're playing' She cried right from the heart 'You've missed me...am I too late' 'No... jump up on the cart'
Oh, my old man's a ninja He wears a ninja's hat He wears cor blimey trousers And he flies cheap tech I crap
I say, I say, I say (What you again) My dustbin's absolutely full with toadstools (How do you know it's full) 'Cos there's not much room inside
He found a tiger's head one day Nailed to a piece of wood The tiger looked quite miserable But I suppose it should Just then from out a window A voice began to wail He said (Oi! Where's me tiger head) Four foot from it's tail
Oh, my old man's a ninja He wears a ninja's hat He wears cor blimey trousers And he flies cheap tech I crap Next time you see a ninja Looking all pale and sad Don't kick him in the dustbin It might be my old dad
~_~
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.04.25 12:25:00 -
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Ninjas. ________________________
Store | Apply |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.04.25 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen no isk, waste of time
This way of thinking is why I ended up quitting.
Now I ninja salvage while my passive ISK generation machine ticks over.
Or at least I will once I get my **** together. -
Did this sig become irrelevant while I was gone? Let me know! |
Zofe Stormcaller
Gallente Shadow Company Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2010.04.25 15:52:00 -
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The problem is easily solved by salvaging faster than they do. Just have a friend or corpie salvage everything while you mission, and take turns pewpewing. It worked for me before I moved to nullsec.
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.04.25 16:31:00 -
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These damn Ninja Looters are everywhere!
But CCP says it's cool. ________________________
Store | Apply |
drunkenmaster
Macho Grande
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Posted - 2010.04.25 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Vyl Vit The Dynamics of Forum Trolling (Or how to get more replies than the last ninja loot thread) There yo...
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
..u've earned.
All the time you spent 'studying', you should have spend trying to find an agent that isn't in ninja loot heaven.
If you're doing missions for standing/LP, salvage will slow you down. If you're doing missions for ISK, salvage will slow you down. If you're doing missions for fun, don't pick the best agent for a particular faction/corp, as they are NL magnets. If you're doing missions because you LOVE salvaging wrecks, do it somewhere you can protect those wrecks.
Despite the thesaurus you're trying to ingest, you don't come across particularly smart.
PS. The leak is in your effort bucket, not the game. Sig pending |
Atticus Fynch
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Posted - 2010.04.25 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank
Now here's a little story To tell it is a must About an unsung hero That moves away your dust Some people make a fortune Other's earn a mint My old man don't earn much In fact....he's flippin'.....skint
Oh, my old man's a ninja He wears a ninja's hat He wears cor blimey trousers And he flies cheap tech I crap He looks a proper narner In his great big hob nailed boots He's got such a job to pull em up That he calls them daisy roots
Some folks give tips at Christmas And some of them forget So when he picks their wrecks up He spills some on the steps Now one old carebear got nasty And to eve general wrote Next time my old man went 'round there He punched him up the throat
Oh, my old man's a ninja He wears a ninja's hat He wears cor blimey trousers And he flies cheap tech I crap
I say, I say Duncan I 'er...I found a police dog in my dustbin (How do you know he's a police dog) He had a policeman with him
Though my old man's a ninja He's got a heart of gold He got married recently Though he's 86 years old We said 'Ear! Hang on Dad you're getting past your prime' He said 'Well when you get to my age' 'It helps to pass the time'
Oh, my old man's a ninja He wears a ninja's hat He wears cor blimey trousers And he flies cheap tech I crap
I say, I say, I say My dustwrecks full of lillies (Well throw 'em away then) I can't Lilly's wearing them
Now one day while in a hurry He missed a lady's bin He hadn't gone but a few yards When she chased after him 'What game do you think you're playing' She cried right from the heart 'You've missed me...am I too late' 'No... jump up on the cart'
Oh, my old man's a ninja He wears a ninja's hat He wears cor blimey trousers And he flies cheap tech I crap
I say, I say, I say (What you again) My dustbin's absolutely full with toadstools (How do you know it's full) 'Cos there's not much room inside
He found a tiger's head one day Nailed to a piece of wood The tiger looked quite miserable But I suppose it should Just then from out a window A voice began to wail He said (Oi! Where's me tiger head) Four foot from it's tail
Oh, my old man's a ninja He wears a ninja's hat He wears cor blimey trousers And he flies cheap tech I crap Next time you see a ninja Looking all pale and sad Don't kick him in the dustbin It might be my old dad
Yes, but consider this:
Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, A tale of a fateful trip That started from this tropic port Aboard this tiny ship.
The mate was a mighty sailing man, The skipper brave and sure. Five passengers set sail that day For a three hour tour, a three hour tour.
The weather started getting rough, The tiny ship was tossed, If not for the courage of the fearless crew The minnow would be lost, the minnow would be lost.
The ship set ground on the shore of this uncharted desert isle With Gilligan The Skipper too, The millionaire and his wife, The movie star The professor and Mary Ann, Here on Gilligans Isle.
So this is the talel of the castways, They're here for a long, long time, They'll have to make the best of things, It's an uphill climb.
The first mate and the Skipper too, Will do their very best, To make the others comfortable, In the tropic island nest.
No phone, no lights no motor cars, Not a single luxury, Like Robinson Crusoe, As primative as can be.
So join us here each week my freinds, You're sure to get a smile, From seven stranded castways, Here on "Gilligan's Isle."
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CCP Shadow
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.25 19:22:00 -
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The smack content of this thread has been lowered to acceptable levels. Please keep it civil, thanks.
-- Shadow
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Ninetails o'Cat
League of Super Evil
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Posted - 2010.04.25 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Shadow The smack content of this thread has been lowered to acceptable levels. Please keep it civil, thanks.
-- Shadow
Shadow!
What's your opinion on ninja salvagers?
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AkJon Ferguson
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Posted - 2010.04.25 19:37:00 -
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Garbage collectors are people too.
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Ashira Twilight
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Posted - 2010.04.25 22:24:00 -
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They salvaged his wrecks and looted his tears...poor guy.
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