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Nemesis Factor
Caldari
Telanus' Reach
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Posted - 2010.04.26 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Nemesis Factor on 26/04/2010 23:08:47
I just finished reading the IGN article found here.
Near the end they mention DUST and say that the ground troops have the same cloning technology as capsuleers.
No no no no NO.
Immortality is what makes pod pilots so unique in the universe, if every GI has the same ability then every capsuleer is just another shmo in a spaceship.
 Originally by: Nick Kolan, IGN
Beyond that, and one or two story specifics (the mercenaries of DUST have obtained the same technology that makes EVE pilots immortal, thus the ongoing battle on the ground), Gonzales was unwilling to dwell on the game, leaving it for some time down the road.
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Faolan Fortune
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Posted - 2010.04.26 23:26:00 -
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Originally the cloning technology wasn't meant for Pods, it was made for terrestrial safety for the rich but the technology wasn't advanced enough to deal with all the possible ways a client could die. It was scrapped and then later realised as idealy used inside a Capsule were a hull breach meant death, no matter what.
Makes perfect sense ultra rich corporations have been advancing the technology over the years and that ultra rich merc corps can use this technology to their advantage. We're not talking about regular GIs, DUST seems to be all about elite private mercs with access to technology and equipment not readily available in government armies and civilian security corps.
Like everything in EVE... if you have enough money...
Plus Capsuleers are still distinctive in that they can use Pods in the first place, cloning is just a standard safety proceedure on every manufactured Pod. Most people can be cloned, but most people can't control spaceships with their mind 
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Ephemeron
G-Force Enterprises
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.04.26 23:27:00 -
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Your mistake is thinking you are not just another shmo in a spaceship
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.04.26 23:28:00 -
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On top of what Faolan said, remember that you as yourself (-> EVE player) can probably fight on planets, therefore you'd kinda expect your cloning gizmos to be in place.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
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Posted - 2010.04.26 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dan O'Connor
you as yourself (-> EVE player) can probably fight on planets
Out of curiosity, has this been stated by CCP somewhere or is it just an assumption on your part?
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Megalift
Omni Tech Engineering
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Posted - 2010.04.27 00:10:00 -
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Here is an idea - lets do away with cloning entirily so when you die in eve, you ae DEAD. That would be wicked cool!
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Ephemeron
G-Force Enterprises
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.04.27 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Megalift
Here is an idea - lets do away with cloning entirily so when you die in eve, you ae DEAD. That would be wicked cool!
As long as we can create new chars, I'm fine with that. Then the playing field would be a lot more level in terms of skill points.
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Bevil Smyth
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.27 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: Megalift
Here is an idea - lets do away with cloning entirily so when you die in eve, you ae DEAD. That would be wicked cool!
As long as we can create new chars, I'm fine with that. Then the playing field would be a lot more level in terms of skill points.
LoL that'd certainly kill the overabundance of capital ships in eve overnight 
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Faolan Fortune
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Posted - 2010.04.27 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: Megalift
Here is an idea - lets do away with cloning entirily so when you die in eve, you ae DEAD. That would be wicked cool!
As long as we can create new chars, I'm fine with that. Then the playing field would be a lot more level in terms of skill points.
...in a galaxy far far away,
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.04.27 03:05:00 -
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Edited by: FunzzeR on 27/04/2010 03:05:30
Am I the only one who read this as "Dust players immoral"?
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Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE
H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2010.04.27 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nemesis Factor
No no no no NO.
You don't have the right tell people they're not allowed to be immortal, so shut up and accept it.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2010.04.27 04:22:00 -
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On another note will EVE names be protected from DUST misuse? Seeing as the games are connected and supposedly will influence one another. |
Zions Child
Caldari
Carthage Industries
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Posted - 2010.04.27 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: FunzzeR
Edited by: FunzzeR on 27/04/2010 03:05:30
Am I the only one who read this as "Dust players immoral"?
Its EVE. Everyone is immoral. We blow up millions of people a day in spaceships. Sociopaths, the lot of us.
Originally by: CCP Shadow
*snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.27 04:42:00 -
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Edited by: Steve Thomas on 27/04/2010 04:43:41
ok let me guess, you dont like dust for whatever reason so your goig to find something to ***** and whine and moan about hopeing that if you can get enough people to do the same that the Developers will give up and that it gets cancled.
Fat chance albert. they have sunk a fair chunk of time money and effort go get things as far as they have. there not going to junk it because someone complaines
honestly your starting to sound like thoes birthers.
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Nemesis Factor
Caldari
Telanus' Reach
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Posted - 2010.04.27 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Thomas
Edited by: Steve Thomas on 27/04/2010 04:43:41
ok let me guess, you don't like dust for whatever reason so your going to find something to ***** and whine and moan about hoping that if you can get enough people to do the same that the Developers will give up and that it gets canceled.
Fat chance albert. they have sunk a fair chunk of time money and effort go get things as far as they have. there not going to junk it because someone complains
honestly your starting to sound like those birthers.
I like the concept of Dust. Reminds me of Battlefield 2. What I don't like are console FPS or console jockeys.
Now if was a PC shooter, I would be all for immortality.
PS, I fixd ur typos
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Anti Fundie Patrol
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Posted - 2010.04.27 05:25:00 -
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"There are 150,000 other 'chosen ones' running around..."
~Yahtzee
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.04.27 06:58:00 -
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And here I thought they just had the zwerg immortality: You died? Good thing there are 347895189475 more just like you.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.04.27 07:01:00 -
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Option A) DUST people can only clone before going on a mission
Option B) **** you prime fiction I wanna make an FPS!
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Jacob Holland
Gallente
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2010.04.27 07:17:00 -
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Option C: Dusties have the same cloning technology but lack the pod's ability to scan the dying brain. Perhaps their brain is written from the Barge's HDD rather than from a scan made at the point of death.
Not only does that get round the prime fiction issues with cloning while still allowing a Dustie to respawn (as opposed to creating a new character with every death) but also keeps the playing field as level as possible, no need for development of skills because every time a bullet voids the Dustie's brain-pan they reset to the scan they had before deployment.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.04.27 07:25:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 27/04/2010 07:25:54
Originally by: Jacob Holland
Option C: Dusties have the same cloning technology but lack the pod's ability to scan the dying brain. Perhaps their brain is written from the Barge's HDD rather than from a scan made at the point of death.
See option A. Make clone before leaving, activate on death.
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.27 07:44:00 -
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However comical making xbox douchecanoes buy a $40 game that they can then play once before their character dies and they need to buy a new copy to play again is.
There's no great difference and nothing new about a fps that gives you one life (counter strike) or lets you constantly respawn over and over (any of the other million fps's released this year)
dust... yawn
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.27 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Option A) DUST people can only clone before going on a mission
Option B) **** you prime fiction I wanna make an FPS!
If you recall in some of the old "news" from the EVE universe there was the story of a music star that was assassinated wile he was in a space station.
The same new did say that there were problems with his clone.
So the game fiction already consider the possibility of cloning people and downloading the scan in another clone.
I don't know how Dust people will work, if players will have a character with skills increasing or simply will be some basic grunt that will be part of some organization that receive the isk from EVE players and buy the equipment for the character(s) in use.
In the character has to train some kind of skill "immortality" is important and relevant, if he is grunt n. 32 and his wallet is available to grunt n. 33, 34 and so on to purchase equipments it will be way less important.
Probably to retain players the character will have a name and some way to get better with time beside buying better equipment, but that is in no way a granted thing.
To little information to really have an opinion.
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VanNostrum
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Posted - 2010.04.27 10:15:00 -
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What?? I thought I was the only player in game to be able to clone
You ALL can clone???
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.04.27 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Dan O'Connor
you as yourself (-> EVE player) can probably fight on planets
Out of curiosity, has this been stated by CCP somewhere or is it just an assumption on your part?
While I don't recall CCP having stated so, I think it's highly probable. Would make sense for people who own a XBox 360 besides a PC, like me.
If I'm wrong with this, then I'm not so sure about the cloning thing.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.04.27 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dan O'Connor
While I don't recall CCP having stated so, I think it's highly probable. Would make sense for people who own a XBox 360 besides a PC, like me.
Wouldn't make any sense in the context of the game though.
And even if it did, the cloning gear is tied to the pod, not the person. Unless you want to attach an AK to your pod and roll around the battlefield. Or you could give it little legs and be the humpty dumpty of war. Anyway...
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Roastedpot
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.04.27 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Dan O'Connor
While I don't recall CCP having stated so, I think it's highly probable. Would make sense for people who own a XBox 360 besides a PC, like me.
Wouldn't make any sense in the context of the game though.
And even if it did, the cloning gear is tied to the pod, not the person. Unless you want to attach an AK to your pod and roll around the battlefield. Or you could give it little legs and be the humpty dumpty of war. Anyway...
i would play a humpty dumpty fps..
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.04.27 13:26:00 -
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Are we insecure or what that we'll lose our precious pod technology? You guys are fine with spawn mechanisms in CS and COD-like games but are having fits when it comes to Dust? I'm glad CCP don't listen to emoraging pubescant girls like you lot.
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Boltorano
Fourth Circle
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2010.04.27 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Option A) DUST people can only clone before going on a mission
Isn't this how Unreal Tournament worked at least 10 years ago anyway?
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Ana Vyr
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Posted - 2010.04.27 13:49:00 -
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It would be a pretty crappy shooter game if you died and the game was over.
Capsule technology is the "respawn" option in EvE.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.04.27 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ana Vyr
It would be a pretty crappy shooter game if you died and the game was over.
Capsule technology is the "respawn" option in EvE.
Psh. You could respawn by being yet another grunt for the grinder. Cloning tech is expensive, wasting it on cannon fodder sounds like a waste of ISK.
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