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Rikki Sals
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.04.28 18:13:00 -
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Hi-Sec Research Caldari Control Tower Small 3 Mobile Laboratories 8 ECM Batteries, 2 of each type 6 Sensor Dampening Batteries 4 Small Pulse Laser Batteries (3 onlined at a time when attacked) 4 Small Artillery Batteries (1 onlined at a time when attacked) 1 Stasis Webification Battery 1 Warp Scrambling Battery
The idea for the pulse lasers is to take care of sentry drones; the idea of the one artillery is just to be a hassle for ships that are able to snipe that far, so they have to worry about tanking, even if just a small amount. And the rest is just to be annoying as hell. It's very inexpensive in all; somewhat less than the mission Ishtars I keep losing stupidly. I'd probably have time to pull the labs, depending on how serious the would-be attackers are. Feedback appreciated!
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Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.04.28 18:22:00 -
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The ECM would be annoying as hell. I once wardecked and destroyed a small POS solo, and there are other people that would find that to be an amusing hobby, but 8 ECM batteries pretty much renders your POS invulnerable to anything but a determined fleet.
Not saying this setup will deter organized, motivated enemies, but it will at least deter troublemakers and hooligans like me. The question is: do you have real enemies?
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Rikki Sals
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.04.28 20:07:00 -
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Fortunately I do not (yet) have any determined enemies. Sounds like this should be pretty solid for my small operation. If a large group decided to target my POS for simple griefing, I suspect they'd grief themselves more than me, even assuming they downed it.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.04.28 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Rikki Sals Hi-Sec Research Caldari Control Tower Small 3 Mobile Laboratories
I wouldn't wardec just that, because it is a small and you can easily take it down on 24 hours notice.
Now if it was a medium or large with no defenses, that's a wardec target.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.04.28 21:05:00 -
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Is all that stuff online?
If it isnt you could war dec - see if the bother putting it online. Then walk away if they notice.
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Chocratess
Swedish Death Machine 2.0
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Posted - 2010.04.29 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest Is all that stuff online?
If it isnt you could war dec - see if the bother putting it online. Then walk away if they notice.
i beleive its his and he wants to know how appealing its going to be, he tells us whats offline and whats not i think Touch not the Cat bot a Glove |
Dzil
Caldari SafeHouse Investments of Tautology
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Posted - 2010.04.29 15:25:00 -
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It looks like this would be very heavily geared towards anti-targeting style ewar. Is there any place for a Friend or Foe missile bombardment, or is that ludicrous vs a POS?
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Mal Lokrano
Gallente Retribution Corp. Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2010.04.29 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dzil It looks like this would be very heavily geared towards anti-targeting style ewar. Is there any place for a Friend or Foe missile bombardment, or is that ludicrous vs a POS?
If you want to spend a few decades shooting at it sure. You'd have to have a good amount of ships all firing fof missiles to take down a heavy ew tower (not including the fact the missiles might not even target the tower). A small would be easiest of course but they still have several million ehp meaning it would take lots of missiles to take it down. ____________________________________________ When going to a party with wine, women, and song. Always ascertain the vintage of the first two. |
Mr Vrix
Caldari Vrix Nation
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Posted - 2010.04.29 20:36:00 -
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hostiles would 1e come with a bunch of ships prepared for your ecm and take those down, then get back to dps setup and pwn the guns and pos
but ya tower will be les atractive if ya have the stuff onit, if ya remove labs they proberly wont bother with the tower, or they rly bored or in griefmode
and thats what ya aming for, making it less attractive to attack
btw go for a disrupter, as the +3 scrambler only has 75k range vs the 150k of the disrupter . ______________________________________________
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Not Well
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Posted - 2010.04.30 13:51:00 -
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Hey, thanks for the idea over the weekend! Now I just need to find the towers.
Now, if a loner is going to do this, they are likely to use Amarr BS, since they don't use ammo and can be left to fire away AFK. While the mix of ECM is good, you might want to mix a little differently, throwing one or two more that hurt the Amarr sensors (sorry, I forget the name).
I didn't but a warp scram on my POS. Reason is that I am not convinced that automatic defenses would put it to good use. If a gang warps in, is the POS really going to scram, web and focus fire on just one ship? I could be wrong, but I understand it does not. Also, with only one, ranged ships could position themselves on the other side of the bubble and just ignore it. If you are going to man the guns and have the skills it is a totally different story, you can give a nasty surprise in that case.
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Galehus Throttlebottom
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Posted - 2010.04.30 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker The ECM would be annoying as hell. I once wardecked and destroyed a small POS solo, and there are other people that would find that to be an amusing hobby, but 8 ECM batteries pretty much renders your POS invulnerable to anything but a determined fleet.
Not saying this setup will deter organized, motivated enemies, but it will at least deter troublemakers and hooligans like me. The question is: do you have real enemies?
So you're saying that Concord finally made high sec POS's a valid war target? I'll have to test that. Does anybody know when the change happened?
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Heikki
Gallente Erasers inc. Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2010.04.30 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Rikki Sals 3 Mobile Laboratories .. have time to pull the labs
Now, do you have to keep anything inside the labs? If I've understood correctly, you can just keep the BPOs inside a station in the same system.
If so, one good anti-griefer tactic would be name the POS as "dont bother, bpos are in station".
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Optos
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Posted - 2010.04.30 16:05:00 -
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So long as you have Scientific Networking I, yes. Most people set up research POSes in systems with stations, so that the expensive BPO do not need to be in the POS.
I would say that unless you have annoyed or insulted someone, it is very unlikely that you will be attacked.
There are many, many more easy and more profitable targets.
In all my time with a hi sec POS I have only been attacked once. That was when I left the game for 2 years and left my tower and lab to run out of fuel. Even with the tower and lab defenceless it had taken about three months for someone to attack it.
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LonTas 5
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.30 23:22:00 -
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Erm... no. My hurricane fails to online POS's only thing that winds up working after drained are guns, as projectile turrets are capless and therefore are superior to everthing. period. But, suggestions from a logical standpoint, The only ships that will attack you will be sniper ships once they see your guns So: fit mor arty after awhile i think i just got trolled
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.01 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Galehus Throttlebottom
So you're saying that Concord finally made high sec POS's a valid war target? I'll have to test that. Does anybody know when the change happened?
Ho told you they were not valid wartargets? Emphasis on the wardeck being active.
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Jamie Banks
Gallente Wasted and Still Mining
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Posted - 2010.05.01 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dasola
Originally by: Galehus Throttlebottom
So you're saying that Concord finally made high sec POS's a valid war target? I'll have to test that. Does anybody know when the change happened?
Ho told you they were not valid wartargets? Emphasis on the wardeck being active.
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