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Wichie Wtf
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Posted - 2010.05.09 11:38:00 -
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* CPU: Intel« CoreÖ i7-930 2.80 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366 * HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive) * MOTHERBOARD: * Asus P6T SE Intel X58 Chipset CrossFireX Mainboard Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 SATA RAID w/ eSATA * MEMORY: 6GB (2GBx3) DDR3/1600MHz Triple Channel Memory Module (A-Data Gaming Series with Heat Spreader) * SOUND: Creative Labs SB Audigy SE [+30] * VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX260 CORE 216 896MB 16X PCI Express [+96] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
I'm aiming to get a new computer in the near future. I would very much like to purchase one that is capable of running the big fleet battles comfortably, as smoothly as possible. For the more technically savy individuals out there, what are your thoughts on these specs? Thank you very much.
Wichie
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Abon
Northstar Cabal OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.09 12:33:00 -
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looks solid. i build gaming/rendering systems on a regular basis and just recently assembled a pretty similar machine for a friend.
If i assume correctly you plan to use the 1TB SATA as your system drive? I would recommend using two HDs.
1x WD Velociraptor 300GB as your system/gaming drive. They are rather pricey but you almost get SSD performance and the overall gain in system speed/smoothness is quite aweseome. The 10.000 RPM of the Raptor are also very noticable in EVE..the whole game runs much much smoother and stuff like the market loads pretty much instantly. I made VERY good experiences with this drive..it removes a huge bottleneck from your system.
1x 1TB SATA for saving all your crap like music, movies, photos, ****, etc. (Go RAID0 with 2x1TB drives for mirroring if you like to keep your stuff safe.)
This also makes your reformatting in the future easier since you only have to wipe your system drive without shoveling all your data to a second drive for backup.
I also would swap the GTX260 for an ATI Radeon from the 5800 series. They deliver much much more bang for the buck atm then the 260 and since you have a Crossfire enabled Mainboard you have the option open to slap in another ATI card in the future for dual-GPU fun. (Remember that you need two similar GPUs for Crossfire/SLI to work and EVE does not support Crossfire/SLI afaik). I would also like to mention that the GTX260/280 suffer from a high failure rate. I RMAed about 4 of them the last 12 months or so.
If you want to save money you can throw out the SoundBlaster Card too. Ususally all the mainboards except the really cheap ones come with a perfect 7.1 or 5.1 HD sound chip nowadays. No difference in sound quality there. Of course if you are an audiophile this is an entirely different matter.
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Kephael
Caldari SERENDIPITY INC R-I-P
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Posted - 2010.05.09 15:19:00 -
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The 260 is a bit outdated and roughly equivalent to an ATI 4850. __________________________________________
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.05.09 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kephael The 260 is a bit outdated and roughly equivalent to an ATI 4850.
Whilst you are technically correct the reality is that his listed rig is totally overpowered for runing eve smoothly in any situation. You can get a solid 60fps with a fast single core and an 8800 with xp and 2 gigs.
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.05.09 15:25:00 -
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That's all good and all and you will probably have no trouble with bigger things, and will play EVE in full glory. However for right now lag is an issue not coming from your end... Hopefully this changes with Tyrannis ________________________
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.09 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Kephael The 260 is a bit outdated and roughly equivalent to an ATI 4850.
Whilst you are technically correct the reality is that his listed rig is totally overpowered for runing eve smoothly in any situation. You can get a solid 60fps with a fast single core and an 8800 with xp and 2 gigs.
In large fights (particually fleetfights) most of the stress seems to go to the CPU. I was running 2 accounts for the SiSi test and my CPU (Core 2 Duo E6400) actually began beeping at me, where I noticed it was running at a solid 100% trying to keep up my 8800GT, on the other hand, was running at idle temps
you really don't need an amazing graphics card, my other PC has an 8600GT that I picked up for ú6 from my old workplace and it runs at 40-60fps @ 1680x1050 with shadows/HDR off
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2010.05.09 17:28:00 -
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That's a beautiful system. It will be useless while loading grids in big fleet battles.
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Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2010.05.09 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Wichie Wtf
I would very much like to purchase one that is capable of running the big fleet battles comfortably. Wichie
If you find one can you let me and 150k other players know.
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Jumfat Kohlah
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Posted - 2010.05.09 18:42:00 -
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My 2 cents worth
CPU - i7 will last you for at least the next year or possibly 2
HDD - I would agree with the two disc scenario - small very fast HD to put only ur OS on and a 500GB for data
Video: Radeon are a nose infront in the race - Nvidia will leap-frog shortly as always
Eve is a thick client which means that all the stuff that can be done at the client (you) is done - which your hardware will do well but the delay you will get in fleet battles is down to:
1) the distance you are from the server cluster ... which route your packets are taking to be answered by the server.
2) the amount of information the server cluster has to deal with before it answers your request
I may be wrong, but you can do diddly-squat about both these situations BUT your hardware will be able to process it nicely once it gets the info.
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Voxira
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Posted - 2010.05.09 19:34:00 -
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Memory is the bottleneck when it comes to big fleet battles. Make sure you have enough.
I suggest an ASUS P6X58D-E instead of what you have there. Supports a 1366 and comes with USB 3.0 and SATA 6 GB/s for some kickass future-proofing.
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Taxesarebad
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Posted - 2010.05.09 22:46:00 -
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I run eve fine with 3200 ati card, and a 2.1ghz dual core AMD processor. and 3gb f ram ( vista 64 bit) also its a laptop so =\
that system will run eve fine, but fleet lag is a server issue for the most part
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Makar Kravchenko
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Posted - 2010.05.10 05:05:00 -
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Why would you use a CrossFire Chipset board with and nVidia graphics card?
hmmmm.
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Flynn Fetladral
BlackSite Prophecy
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Posted - 2010.05.10 08:01:00 -
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I would suggest the Intel Core i7-870 over the i7-930 if you can afford to push the cash limits a bit more. It's going to be a lot better at gaming in general.
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Neesa Corrinne
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.05.10 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Wichie Wtf * CPU: Intel« CoreÖ i7-930 2.80 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366
Good choice. Solid CPU and LGA1366 is the future of CPU sockets according to Intel who have claimed publicly that the i9 and future CPU's will all be LGA1366.
Originally by: Wichie Wtf * HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
If you're looking for performance boosts, then I would suggest a dual HDD configuration. Use a 10,000 RPM HDD drive for all of your games. This will slow down the seek times on your games and make waiting screens almost nonexistent.
Originally by: Wichie Wtf * MOTHERBOARD: * Asus P6T SE Intel X58 Chipset CrossFireX Mainboard Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 SATA RAID w/ eSATA
Yikes. Wouldn't be my choice personally. Lots of technology coming out soon that this board doesn't take into account at all. Think about This instead. It has USB 3.0 ports for super high speed data transfer rate to your externals, has a screaming fast QPI 6.4GT/S Front Side Bus and comes with six DIMM slots to support up to 24 Gigs of memory.
WARNING: Check your components carefully before purchasing. This card does NOT SUPPORT SLI, yet you are purchasing an NVIDIA card. This is a Crossfire board, which means it's designed to work with ATI cards. Either take a look at the other board I suggested above or perhaps look into purchasing an ATI card instead. (I'd rather gouge my eyes out than buy another buggy piece of crap ATI card, but it's your choice.)
Originally by: Wichie Wtf * MEMORY: 6GB (2GBx3) DDR3/1600MHz Triple Channel Memory Module (A-Data Gaming Series with Heat Spreader)
A-Data is not a brand I'm familiar with or have ever used. I personally suggest Corsair RAM, but that's just the brand loyalty in me talking. I've always used Corsair and I've always been extremely pleased with it.
Originally by: Wichie Wtf * SOUND: Creative Labs SB Audigy SE [+30]
EVE HAS SOUND??
Originally by: Wichie Wtf * VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX260 CORE 216 896MB 16X PCI Express [+96] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
Awesome card. I have two of them in my current box and they run everything really well. I highly recommend EVGA or ASUS as the brands to buy with NVIDIA cards. Personally I've had several issues with BFG Tech in the past when I was broke and wanted the latest tech at a bargain bin price... well with computer parts you tend to get bargain bin quality.
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Bevil Smyth
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.05.10 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jumfat Kohlah My 2 cents worth
Video: Radeon are a nose infront in the race - Nvidia will leap-frog shortly as always
I agree with you apart from this, if money isnt an issue the latest Nvidia cards pip ATI by a small margin (although not one thats worth the xtra cost). ============================ 2003 and still alive! |
spoon reaver
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Posted - 2010.05.10 13:09:00 -
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I find it funny that nobody mentioned that it takes more then a good computer to run an online game like eve. Stable internet is also key to a successful fleet battle
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Falkrich Swifthand
Caldari eNinjas Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.05.10 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
Originally by: Wichie Wtf * SOUND: Creative Labs SB Audigy SE [+30]
EVE HAS SOUND??
Unless you're a serious audiophile, don't buy a sound-card, just use onboard.
Especially with the crap Creative has been putting out recently. nullnull
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Gunnanmon
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.05.10 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Abon i build gaming/rendering systems on a regular basis ...
....(Go RAID0 with 2x1TB drives for mirroring if you like to keep your stuff safe.)
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Max Hardcase
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.05.10 13:34:00 -
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well the xfi2 is a decent soundcard especially if a game fires alot of simultaneous sounds at it. but creative drivers are pure trash. you have to be very carefull that your soundblaster doesnt share an irq with your gfx card or your pc will crash
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PinkFish
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Posted - 2010.05.10 13:47:00 -
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CPU: Get a good cooler and clock ~3.6 GHz or so (still get good life, shouldn't need much volt tweek)
HDD: Spend the money on a high-end solid state drive. Faster grid/texture loading ftw.
Motherboard: Brand new technologies and legacy technology are the pain here. You generally don't want what you don't need, and what you do need get the best. ASUS has been slipping the last few years, so don't assume because its ASUS it will perform well or be stable.
Memory: Just make sure your timing is set up correctly
Sound: Who uses sound cards anymore? Every one I've ever used has introduced instability (well, since the 90s anyway).
Video: It sounds like this is what you have now? NVIDIA is not so nice as ATI atm, but this card doesn't need to be upgraded yet if you already have it.
So to recap:
Get a good case, with good cooling. Get a kickass CPU cooler, and achieve a minimal overclock for the i7 to really shine. Buy a gaming HDD not a storage HDD. Use a good and expensive power supply. Then when you get your system burn it in hard with prime95, occt, memtest86.
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Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.05.10 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
Originally by: Wichie Wtf * CPU: Intel« CoreÖ i7-930 2.80 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366
Good choice. Solid CPU and LGA1366 is the future of CPU sockets according to Intel who have claimed publicly that the i9 and future CPU's will all be LGA1366.
I wouldn't count on it. Intel has been claiming that sockets would be forward compatible since the ZIF socket was first created. Yet I've never seen a single motherboard yet that could run a processor that didn't exist when it was made.
Besides by the time that processor is ready for replacement there will probably be newer features on a newer board for a newer chip that they'll want access to anyway.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.05.10 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Falkrich Swifthand
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
Originally by: Wichie Wtf * SOUND: Creative Labs SB Audigy SE [+30]
EVE HAS SOUND??
Unless you're a serious audiophile, don't buy a sound-card, just use onboard.
Especially with the crap Creative has been putting out recently.
I have used soundblaster cards since the first 8 bit mono card came out for my uber leet 286/16(turbo!) with 2meg main memory and a huge arse 40mb hard drive all the way up to my current rig with an audigy. Can't think of any time I ever had any sound issues that were card related.
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone!
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Tenzo
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.05.10 14:32:00 -
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The only thing you need to survive a large fleet fight is :
- a direct connect to the eve server cluster, more precisely to the node the fight is taking place on and the ability to specifically acquire cpu time on said node.
You can have the fastest PC in the world, the current lag issues reduce your game to a 3D card game. Order > action times between 1min to 1h does not change with super PC specs.
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Yarpen
Tsunami Cartel Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.05.10 14:43:00 -
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Dont mean to be trolling BUT RAID0 does not provide improved safety for your files - it actually makes them twice as likely to go poof as all data is written between two hard drives. What RAID0 does is improves the speed on writing data to the drives which is also required for a gaming machine. So a good advice just slighly corrected
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Gunnanmon
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.05.10 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Yarpen Dont mean to be trolling BUT RAID0 does not provide improved safety for your files - it actually makes them twice as likely to go poof as all data is written between two hard drives. What RAID0 does is improves the speed on writing data to the drives which is also required for a gaming machine. So a good advice just slighly corrected
Please don't argue with him, he builds systems on a regular basis, so knows about RAID.
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Shintai
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2010.05.11 10:17:00 -
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Forget LGA1366 and i7 900 series CPUs.
Get LGA1156. LGA1156 also tends to be faster on stock clocks. Plus they use alot less power.
For example, I7 860 for LGA1156 got turbomodes of 4/3/1/1 Or 3.46Ghz in singlethreaded or 3.33Ghz with 2 threads. (Each EVE client=1 thread) And 2.93Ghz on 4 cores.
i7 930 is 3.06Ghz with 1 thread and 2.93Ghz with any other amount as maximum.
Plus LGA1156 is much cheaper. LGA1366 is only useful if you got multiple GFX cards/RAID cards or overclock massively. --------------------------------------
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TheSlaveMaster
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Posted - 2010.05.11 11:23:00 -
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Computer power dosen't matter... lag will kill the battle anyway, so just keep your old.
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Makar Kravchenko
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Posted - 2010.05.14 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: TheSlaveMaster Computer power dosen't matter... lag will kill the battle anyway, so just keep your old.
Confirming that playing EVE Online in large fleet battles works just as well on my Athlon XP 3200+/GeForce 6800GT AGP 8X/1GB DDR433, 6 year old machine. |
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