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Vladimiru
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Posted - 2010.05.13 15:55:00 -
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I've been following this topic since last September:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Review_destroyers_%28CSM%29
I was curious to know if we can get any more information on it.
Thanks
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.05.13 16:02:00 -
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This is one of many proposals/issues which have had strong support on the forums and in CSM... then nothing. It would be nice to have all the existing "In Process" issues updated.
This signature is useless, but it is red.
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.05.13 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: James Tritanius on 13/05/2010 16:03:27
I'm up for any buffs on all the non-Thrasher destroyers.
EDIT: THUMBS UP!
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Vladimiru
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Posted - 2010.05.13 16:33:00 -
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Supporting my own thread
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Abduakla
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Posted - 2010.05.14 07:19:00 -
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Edited by: Abduakla on 14/05/2010 07:18:44
Originally by: Bagehi This is one of many proposals/issues which have had strong support on the forums and in CSM... then nothing. It would be nice to have all the existing "In Process" issues updated.
If Bagehi supports it, you all should
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Vladimiru
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Posted - 2010.05.15 01:27:00 -
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Bump for awesomeness
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Azshann
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Posted - 2010.05.15 03:07:00 -
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Edited by: Azshann on 15/05/2010 03:07:13 The changes I would propose are:
1) Remove RoF penalty.
2) Decrease sig radius by 7.5% per level
3) Counter to 2. Double their mass to prevent them from moving too fast (otherwise you'd have AF's with 8 guns).
4) Give the Catalyst + 1 drone per level, instead of falloff bonus, and decrease drone damage by 33%. Also give Catalyst one extra low slot and one extra med slot.
5) Coercer needs two extra med slots.
6) Trasher needs one extra low and one extra mid.
7) Cormorant needs two extra low slots.
8) Decrease powergrid cost for armor plates by 7.5% per level, and reduce shield extender cpu usage by 7.5% per level.
9) Double the explosion radius for small smartbombs for destroyers.
10) Add 2.5% resist to shields and armor per level.
11) Do NOT apply the second proposition (increased mass) to the tier 2 interdictors.
12) Increase smartbomb damage by 7.5% per level for interdictors.
I'm willing to change these propositions if a good counter-argument can be made against them.
Here is a proposition that I didn't put in the first twelve because it is too overpowered as it stands, but a good discussion should modify it enough to make it viable.
Proposition 13) +1 warp disruptor strength OR +20% warp scrambler range per level. |
Vladimiru
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Posted - 2010.05.16 03:36:00 -
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No ones cares
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Vladimiru
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Posted - 2010.05.18 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimiru No ones cares
This statement is now confirmed
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Maxsim Goratiev
Imperial Tau Syndicate Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.05.18 18:02:00 -
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supporting, as i was the one that proposed these changes, i would like to know what happened to my proposal.
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Crazy KSK
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Posted - 2010.05.18 22:10:00 -
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Supported because destroyers are next to useless in my opinion and because changes are never a bad thing
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Lynn Deniera
Caldari The Foreign Legion Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.19 05:51:00 -
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destroyers are used as anti-support.
nuff said. They can be sensor boosted to fux, and be pod killa's.
Honestly theyre not broken, they are just often not used correctly.
in the pve realm its all salvage - if you can fly a cane.
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Arrador
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Posted - 2010.05.19 13:09:00 -
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Oh **** yes please Fix destroyers.
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Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente Imperial Tau Syndicate Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.05.19 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lynn Deniera destroyers are used as anti-support.
nuff said. They can be sensor boosted to fux, and be pod killa's.
Honestly theyre not broken, they are just often not used correctly.
in the pve realm its all salvage - if you can fly a cane.
this in not a discussion if they cdhould be boosted, it wqas determined by the playerbase and agreed upon by CSM and CCP that they need a look at. ANd it shall be.
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Jerid Verges
The Society of Innovation The Last Stand
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Posted - 2010.05.19 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Azshann
1) Remove RoF penalty.
CCP and the CSM have clearly stated this will not happen. Since it would make Destroyers wholly overpowered.
In anycase, Destroyers do need to be looked at. And no, having an "Anti Frigate" role only is complete bull**** and totally limits the functionality of Destroyers.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.05.20 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: CCP It's in our back log.
Why waste a thread when you know the above will be the answer?
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.05.20 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: CCP It's in our back log.
Why waste a thread when you know the above will be the answer?
If you poke a bear enough, it will move. It might take your head off, but it will move. We are poking.
This signature is useless, but it is red.
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Vladimiru
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Posted - 2010.05.22 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Bagehi
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: CCP It's in our back log.
Why waste a thread when you know the above will be the answer?
If you poke a bear enough, it will move. It might take your head off, but it will move. We are poking.
How about we poke this until next September?
:)
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Vladimiru
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Posted - 2010.05.30 01:41:00 -
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poke
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Botrias Pirabus
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Posted - 2010.05.30 11:45:00 -
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Yes.
If nothing else, please let my Coercer have a tank roughly befitting it's sig radius.
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Dierdra Vaal
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2010.05.30 11:56:00 -
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CCP will be reminded once we're there :) Director of Education :: EVE University
CSM1 delegate and CSM3 chairman
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Asuri Kinnes
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.30 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Bagehi If you poke a bear enough, it will move. It might take your head off, but it will move. We are poking.
/poking /supported /poking again! Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist NO! |
Bomberlocks
Star Bombers
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Posted - 2010.05.30 23:34:00 -
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As a mostly Minnie pilot, I'm fairly happy with Thrashers as they are (being streets above the other dessies), but to be fair, there is a current of problems running through the dessies due to the large sig radius and poor fittings: 1. Thrasher, not enough speed to speed tank, boost speed. Otherwise just fine. 2. Catalayst, not enough grid, drop one high gun slot and boost grid to 70mw 3. Coecer, one midslot is too little, drop two high turret slots for one extra mid (otherwise would be OP as it can fit a solid tank with 4 lows) 4. Cormorant, swap turrets to missiles.
Fairly minor changes, but should make dessies interesting for noobs and for beginner FW stuff.
What would be extremely nice would be another category of T2 dessies: Dessie stealthbombers instead of frigate stealthbombers (how the hell do the frigate SBs fit the Torp and Bomb launchers anyhow?)
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dtyk
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Posted - 2010.05.31 00:17:00 -
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They're not useless, but they should still be more useful than they are now.
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galphi
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.05.31 06:58:00 -
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Destroyers are years overdue for fixing, make this happen!
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Komi Toran
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Posted - 2010.05.31 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: Bomberlocks
4. Cormorant, swap turrets to missiles.
I thought the goal of such a fix was to make dessies better, not make them useless.
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Vladimiru
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Posted - 2010.06.01 20:36:00 -
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poke
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar Star Bombers
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Posted - 2010.06.01 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Komi Toran
Originally by: Bomberlocks
4. Cormorant, swap turrets to missiles.
I thought the goal of such a fix was to make dessies better, not make them useless.
I was thinking of a cheap beginner anti-frig platform, a la AMl Caracal.
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Vladimiru
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Posted - 2010.06.02 02:48:00 -
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I have a topic up on the ideas and suggestions forums concerning destroyers, it has become evident why balancing destroyers is a such a pain.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1327231&page=2
Feel free to contribute and we'll write up another proposal to the assembly hall once we got something most of us can agree on.
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4N631
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Posted - 2010.06.02 05:20:00 -
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