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Nym Qyamara
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:01:00 -
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Dear CCP we have now ended a more than 50 hours long siege of an POS and destroyed everything, since it would prove that the Control Tower was not conquerable at all? Please provide us with some kind of explanation if possible - because we are a lot of disappointed players. Were we just ignorant?
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PS: We still love EVE Keep up the good work, may I be as bold to say, this is still the most bug free MMORPG ever to hit the web. |

Nym Qyamara
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:01:00 -
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Dear CCP we have now ended a more than 50 hours long siege of an POS and destroyed everything, since it would prove that the Control Tower was not conquerable at all? Please provide us with some kind of explanation if possible - because we are a lot of disappointed players. Were we just ignorant?
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PS: We still love EVE Keep up the good work, may I be as bold to say, this is still the most bug free MMORPG ever to hit the web. |

Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:02:00 -
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50 hours 
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it... |

Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:02:00 -
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50 hours 
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it... |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:04:00 -
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Rofl, you shot a pos for 50 hours so you could run off with it ?
How long would you need to just earn the cash instead ? _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:04:00 -
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Rofl, you shot a pos for 50 hours so you could run off with it ?
How long would you need to just earn the cash instead ? _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Nym Qyamara
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:05:00 -
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We did it not for cash - but because we could. |

Nym Qyamara
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:05:00 -
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We did it not for cash - but because we could. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:09:00 -
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I know, just jibing there 
Seems a bug with the range too btw. You cant have been at 900 m from the control tower as long as it was online could you ? Still, look at the target icon.
But you actually didi think you could take the anchored stuff with you eh ? It's been clear to me you can't for a long time already. Anchored stuff can only be destroyed, or needs to be unanchored by the owner. POS are just funny looking secure containers in that way.
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Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:09:00 -
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I know, just jibing there 
Seems a bug with the range too btw. You cant have been at 900 m from the control tower as long as it was online could you ? Still, look at the target icon.
But you actually didi think you could take the anchored stuff with you eh ? It's been clear to me you can't for a long time already. Anchored stuff can only be destroyed, or needs to be unanchored by the owner. POS are just funny looking secure containers in that way.
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Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Nym Qyamara
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:12:00 -
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CCP says
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When the Control Arrays shield is damaged and it reaches 25% capacity, it enters an reinforced state, where most of its resource needed for its Infrastructure Arrays is diverted to shield generation and it consumes its reserve that fuels the reinforced state.
The time it takes for a Control Arrays to go through its reinforced state depends on how much reserves the owner has primed the Array with.
When the Control Array exits the reinforced state, the Starbase is vulnerable for damage since it can not enter reinforced until you can fill the reserves again. Restocking can not be done until the shield is back to 50% capacity.
The reinforced state also dictates when the final battle for the Starbase will occur, since both attacker and defender knows the time of the Control Array exiting the reinforced state. The defender still has the advantage since he can prime the reserves so that it occurs on his prime time.
When the shield of a structure is gone, it can take damage beyond its incapacitation point or destruction point. An incapacitated structure can be taken as loot or it can be usurped to conquer the territory.
http://worldofwar.dk/tc |

Nym Qyamara
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:12:00 -
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CCP says
Quote:
When the Control Arrays shield is damaged and it reaches 25% capacity, it enters an reinforced state, where most of its resource needed for its Infrastructure Arrays is diverted to shield generation and it consumes its reserve that fuels the reinforced state.
The time it takes for a Control Arrays to go through its reinforced state depends on how much reserves the owner has primed the Array with.
When the Control Array exits the reinforced state, the Starbase is vulnerable for damage since it can not enter reinforced until you can fill the reserves again. Restocking can not be done until the shield is back to 50% capacity.
The reinforced state also dictates when the final battle for the Starbase will occur, since both attacker and defender knows the time of the Control Array exiting the reinforced state. The defender still has the advantage since he can prime the reserves so that it occurs on his prime time.
When the shield of a structure is gone, it can take damage beyond its incapacitation point or destruction point. An incapacitated structure can be taken as loot or it can be usurped to conquer the territory.
http://worldofwar.dk/tc |

Nafri
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine I know, just jibing there 
Seems a bug with the range too btw. You cant have been at 900 m from the control tower as long as it was online could you ? Still, look at the target icon.
But you actually didi think you could take the anchored stuff with you eh ? It's been clear to me you can't for a long time already. Anchored stuff can only be destroyed, or needs to be unanchored by the owner. POS are just funny looking secure containers in that way.
you can, that thing has even 50mio shield hp without beeing online
when its going online only the force fields goes of, sentries will continue to shoot i think Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine I know, just jibing there 
Seems a bug with the range too btw. You cant have been at 900 m from the control tower as long as it was online could you ? Still, look at the target icon.
But you actually didi think you could take the anchored stuff with you eh ? It's been clear to me you can't for a long time already. Anchored stuff can only be destroyed, or needs to be unanchored by the owner. POS are just funny looking secure containers in that way.
you can, that thing has even 50mio shield hp without beeing online
when its going online only the force fields goes of, sentries will continue to shoot i think Wanna fly with me?
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 07/12/2004 01:17:56 No. offline tower means offline modules.
And even offline, you cannot take it unless its not anchored. You can only destroy it.
oh, and CCP said alot about pos, and didn't say even more about them. You should ahve just tested them on sisi first. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 07/12/2004 01:17:56 No. offline tower means offline modules.
And even offline, you cannot take it unless its not anchored. You can only destroy it.
oh, and CCP said alot about pos, and didn't say even more about them. You should ahve just tested them on sisi first. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Queen Hawk
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:18:00 -
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50 hours ... Dang
I see you were using torps and not all using energy weapons.... Even thou money was not an issue.
How much did it cost to blow the thing up?
That is a lot of pounding. |

Queen Hawk
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:18:00 -
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50 hours ... Dang
I see you were using torps and not all using energy weapons.... Even thou money was not an issue.
How much did it cost to blow the thing up?
That is a lot of pounding. |

Nym Qyamara
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Nym Qyamara on 07/12/2004 01:23:14 A guess - based on the amount of ammo transports we used - I would say we spent something close to 30.000.000 ish blowing this thing.
or 0.28 ISK per Hit point I guess |

Nym Qyamara
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Nym Qyamara on 07/12/2004 01:23:14 A guess - based on the amount of ammo transports we used - I would say we spent something close to 30.000.000 ish blowing this thing.
or 0.28 ISK per Hit point I guess |

Mechasoul
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:26:00 -
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Those are some nice pic's Nym. The station exploding was awesome. In my opinion it was worth every 0.28isk per hp just to watch the thing go up in a ball of flaming glory :-P
Convert now.. Or fall forever.. BOKK
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Mechasoul
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:26:00 -
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Those are some nice pic's Nym. The station exploding was awesome. In my opinion it was worth every 0.28isk per hp just to watch the thing go up in a ball of flaming glory :-P
Convert now.. Or fall forever.. BOKK
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Queen Hawk
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:28:00 -
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That would have been cool,
You had Indies flying in ammo for the siege?  |

Queen Hawk
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:28:00 -
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That would have been cool,
You had Indies flying in ammo for the siege?  |

Red Six
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:35:00 -
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Out of curiousity, from the explosion picture it looks like an Apoc is being tossed about, did any of the attacking ships take damage in the explosion?
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Red Six
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:35:00 -
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Out of curiousity, from the explosion picture it looks like an Apoc is being tossed about, did any of the attacking ships take damage in the explosion?
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Nym Qyamara
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Hawk
That would have been cool,
You had Indies flying in ammo for the siege?
Yes
Originally by: Red Six Out of curiousity, from the explosion picture it looks like an Apoc is being tossed about, did any of the attacking ships take damage in the explosion?
No |

Nym Qyamara
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Hawk
That would have been cool,
You had Indies flying in ammo for the siege?
Yes
Originally by: Red Six Out of curiousity, from the explosion picture it looks like an Apoc is being tossed about, did any of the attacking ships take damage in the explosion?
No |

Mechasoul
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:39:00 -
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As far as i know, none of the ships took any damage from the explosion. I figure it is the same as destroying a structure in a complex. Those to make nice explosions, but don't seem to have any effect on surrounding entities.
Convert now.. Or fall forever.. BOKK
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Mechasoul
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Posted - 2004.12.07 01:39:00 -
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As far as i know, none of the ships took any damage from the explosion. I figure it is the same as destroying a structure in a complex. Those to make nice explosions, but don't seem to have any effect on surrounding entities.
Convert now.. Or fall forever.. BOKK
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