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Cracken
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Posted - 2004.12.13 03:21:00 -
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See if you can get your hands on 3 heavy named noses.
And use neuts people may say I'm crazy but think what is an apoc or raven pilots worst nightmare, it's running out of cap and shield boosters are cap hungry they eat it like mad.
So come in at 15km hit the noses and wham suddenly he's out of cap and can't tank you anymore.
And lasers use the most cap. SO just suck away and run 2x large reps. on their cap!!!
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Cracken
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Posted - 2004.12.13 03:21:00 -
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See if you can get your hands on 3 heavy named noses.
And use neuts people may say I'm crazy but think what is an apoc or raven pilots worst nightmare, it's running out of cap and shield boosters are cap hungry they eat it like mad.
So come in at 15km hit the noses and wham suddenly he's out of cap and can't tank you anymore.
And lasers use the most cap. SO just suck away and run 2x large reps. on their cap!!!
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CKieschnick
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Posted - 2004.12.13 05:42:00 -
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Quote: And use neuts people may say I'm crazy but think what is an apoc or raven pilots worst nightmare, it's running out of cap and shield boosters are cap hungry they eat it like mad.
Problem is launchers on a raven arent cap hungry and if the raven is fitted properly the 2 large accoms wont keep up. Raven vs my mega i would try to avoid if the chance did come up it would be a what the hell type situation and just try, but mega vs apoc i would take that any day.
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CKieschnick
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Posted - 2004.12.13 05:42:00 -
[124]
Quote: And use neuts people may say I'm crazy but think what is an apoc or raven pilots worst nightmare, it's running out of cap and shield boosters are cap hungry they eat it like mad.
Problem is launchers on a raven arent cap hungry and if the raven is fitted properly the 2 large accoms wont keep up. Raven vs my mega i would try to avoid if the chance did come up it would be a what the hell type situation and just try, but mega vs apoc i would take that any day.
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YuuKnow
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Posted - 2004.12.13 06:23:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Thanit I'm enjoying a nice ralaithron setup that does lots of damage and negates enemy offense quite well under normal circumstances. Only thin it cant do is scramble.
7 named 425mm rails assault+defenders
1x mwd 2x dampener 1x cap recharger II
1x med repairer II 1x 1600mm plate 1x nano membrane II 3x damage mods 1x RCU
It does damage veeery well againt other BS. At ranges above 30km any BS not using two sensor boosters is reduced to FOF's which cant kill you before you kill them under normal circumstances.
Then again, ew screws you, as do opponents which have 2 damps as well
I faced a railathron a while back that was doting 7 x damage mods and 1-2 tracking computers. My raven was toast. Hit just like a gankageddon......gankathron.
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YuuKnow
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Posted - 2004.12.13 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Thanit I'm enjoying a nice ralaithron setup that does lots of damage and negates enemy offense quite well under normal circumstances. Only thin it cant do is scramble.
7 named 425mm rails assault+defenders
1x mwd 2x dampener 1x cap recharger II
1x med repairer II 1x 1600mm plate 1x nano membrane II 3x damage mods 1x RCU
It does damage veeery well againt other BS. At ranges above 30km any BS not using two sensor boosters is reduced to FOF's which cant kill you before you kill them under normal circumstances.
Then again, ew screws you, as do opponents which have 2 damps as well
I faced a railathron a while back that was doting 7 x damage mods and 1-2 tracking computers. My raven was toast. Hit just like a gankageddon......gankathron.
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Talona
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: *****en And lasers use the most cap
I have a feeling that lasers on an apoc use slightly less cap than your blasters do ...
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Talona
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:41:00 -
[128]
Originally by: *****en And lasers use the most cap
I have a feeling that lasers on an apoc use slightly less cap than your blasters do ...
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.12.13 13:28:00 -
[129]
the mega is a beast not even my apoc with 2x900hp reps could keep up with it in testing. granted i did have 2 of the rong hardeners on but even so i worked out later it would still have beat me with 80% kinetic and 80% thermal resistance.
first invest in a accom. second get some better but not t2 caps rechargers. maybe 18%'s you can still find these now and then under a mill as people don't check the value as they are non-t2.
next get on to sisi and try the mega with a named 100mn AB. they are alot better in next patch and it may be all you need.
pls tell me you are using iridium over AM you will get a 4-8km ish opti and slightly lower dmg but at a lower caps use.
you will aslo need GOOD caps skills and you could do with working on repair skills to get the cycle time to 12 sec.
You need to carry 2 of each heavy drone type to. ogres only do thermal dmg so often you will have all 8 rendered ineffective.
Fit a caps booster and 800 caps charges.
i can't see how on earth you will have a problem with apoc in that. they are often very fine tuned on caps use so the slightest bit extra caps drain will mean their guns/tank die after a bit.
against a raven i sugest you are in a gang with a frig that can provide a warp to under 10km. this way you can web them and most of ALL you can toggle your mwd offline then use the caps booster to fill the now spare caps space you have. turning the mwd off will not only give you extra caps but make the recharge faster as you now have the same recharge time over more caps.
at the same time as dual nosting them you have rendered the dual nosts many ravens carry iniffective and then its just a matter of dmg output. a pilot with high gunnery skills should have no trouble out dmging a raven under 10km.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.12.13 13:28:00 -
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the mega is a beast not even my apoc with 2x900hp reps could keep up with it in testing. granted i did have 2 of the rong hardeners on but even so i worked out later it would still have beat me with 80% kinetic and 80% thermal resistance.
first invest in a accom. second get some better but not t2 caps rechargers. maybe 18%'s you can still find these now and then under a mill as people don't check the value as they are non-t2.
next get on to sisi and try the mega with a named 100mn AB. they are alot better in next patch and it may be all you need.
pls tell me you are using iridium over AM you will get a 4-8km ish opti and slightly lower dmg but at a lower caps use.
you will aslo need GOOD caps skills and you could do with working on repair skills to get the cycle time to 12 sec.
You need to carry 2 of each heavy drone type to. ogres only do thermal dmg so often you will have all 8 rendered ineffective.
Fit a caps booster and 800 caps charges.
i can't see how on earth you will have a problem with apoc in that. they are often very fine tuned on caps use so the slightest bit extra caps drain will mean their guns/tank die after a bit.
against a raven i sugest you are in a gang with a frig that can provide a warp to under 10km. this way you can web them and most of ALL you can toggle your mwd offline then use the caps booster to fill the now spare caps space you have. turning the mwd off will not only give you extra caps but make the recharge faster as you now have the same recharge time over more caps.
at the same time as dual nosting them you have rendered the dual nosts many ravens carry iniffective and then its just a matter of dmg output. a pilot with high gunnery skills should have no trouble out dmging a raven under 10km.
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.12.13 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: fairimear
against a raven i sugest you are in a gang with a frig that can provide a warp to under 10km. this way you can web them and most of ALL you can toggle your mwd offline then use the caps booster to fill the now spare caps space you have.
and get spammed by Torpedos, no thx -------------------------------------------
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.12.13 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: fairimear
against a raven i sugest you are in a gang with a frig that can provide a warp to under 10km. this way you can web them and most of ALL you can toggle your mwd offline then use the caps booster to fill the now spare caps space you have.
and get spammed by Torpedos, no thx -------------------------------------------
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Marcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2004.12.23 10:43:00 -
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imo blasters are only usable if you get dropped form teh enemy within like 20km nowadays. Against Ravens I don't care to use them at all with mwd shield penalty off.
I find rails are better up to the task of killing tanked hostiles then blasters. It's just annoying that you can't scramble anyone at 20+km
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Marcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2004.12.23 10:43:00 -
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imo blasters are only usable if you get dropped form teh enemy within like 20km nowadays. Against Ravens I don't care to use them at all with mwd shield penalty off.
I find rails are better up to the task of killing tanked hostiles then blasters. It's just annoying that you can't scramble anyone at 20+km
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Fire Hawk
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Posted - 2004.12.23 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:27:05 Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:26:27 My 1on1 thron setup is :
- 3x Mega Modal Neutron's (Antimatter or Ura) - 2x Mega Modal Ion's - 2x Cruise Arba's (FoF Cruise in case of ECM) - 1x Heavy Smarty
- 1x XL C5 - 1x FRX Heavy Cap (4 800 charges + 4 in cargohold) - 1x 90% Web - 1x Quad-Lif MWD
- 1 RCU II - 1 CPU II - 1 Med Armor Rep II - 3 Magnetic Dmg Mod II
Specialy designed for 1vs1, if u catch a BS, he's just dead :) That setup assume u not tanked but no need to, u can beat any BS before he gets u on armor. MWD to him, Web him, Fire, and keep bumping him to prevent him to align to warp, and before he can understand something kill him. That's a piece of cake
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Fire Hawk
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Posted - 2004.12.23 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:27:05 Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:26:27 My 1on1 thron setup is :
- 3x Mega Modal Neutron's (Antimatter or Ura) - 2x Mega Modal Ion's - 2x Cruise Arba's (FoF Cruise in case of ECM) - 1x Heavy Smarty
- 1x XL C5 - 1x FRX Heavy Cap (4 800 charges + 4 in cargohold) - 1x 90% Web - 1x Quad-Lif MWD
- 1 RCU II - 1 CPU II - 1 Med Armor Rep II - 3 Magnetic Dmg Mod II
Specialy designed for 1vs1, if u catch a BS, he's just dead :) That setup assume u not tanked but no need to, u can beat any BS before he gets u on armor. MWD to him, Web him, Fire, and keep bumping him to prevent him to align to warp, and before he can understand something kill him. That's a piece of cake
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Cyrus XII
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Posted - 2004.12.25 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Fire Hawk Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:27:05 Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:26:27 My 1on1 thron setup is :
- 3x Mega Modal Neutron's (Antimatter or Ura) - 2x Mega Modal Ion's - 2x Cruise Arba's (FoF Cruise in case of ECM) - 1x Heavy Smarty
- 1x XL C5 - 1x FRX Heavy Cap (4 800 charges + 4 in cargohold) - 1x 90% Web - 1x Quad-Lif MWD
- 1 RCU II - 1 CPU II - 1 Med Armor Rep II - 3 Magnetic Dmg Mod II
Specialy designed for 1vs1, if u catch a BS, he's just dead :) That setup assume u not tanked but no need to, u can beat any BS before he gets u on armor. MWD to him, Web him, Fire, and keep bumping him to prevent him to align to warp, and before he can understand something kill him. That's a piece of cake
Anyone else test this to see how it works?
And could someone post the relevent skills that some of these suggetions miight require?
I just got into the thron a few days ago and am loving it. Though Gunnery V is 2 days away, I'm still tearing **** up with 250's, 200's, and blasters. I've done a lot of Blasterax setups so I'm familiar with the concept of tanking and such.
Also, what's a good fleet config for a thron?
I appreciate your help :)
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Cyrus XII
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Posted - 2004.12.25 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Fire Hawk Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:27:05 Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:26:27 My 1on1 thron setup is :
- 3x Mega Modal Neutron's (Antimatter or Ura) - 2x Mega Modal Ion's - 2x Cruise Arba's (FoF Cruise in case of ECM) - 1x Heavy Smarty
- 1x XL C5 - 1x FRX Heavy Cap (4 800 charges + 4 in cargohold) - 1x 90% Web - 1x Quad-Lif MWD
- 1 RCU II - 1 CPU II - 1 Med Armor Rep II - 3 Magnetic Dmg Mod II
Specialy designed for 1vs1, if u catch a BS, he's just dead :) That setup assume u not tanked but no need to, u can beat any BS before he gets u on armor. MWD to him, Web him, Fire, and keep bumping him to prevent him to align to warp, and before he can understand something kill him. That's a piece of cake
Anyone else test this to see how it works?
And could someone post the relevent skills that some of these suggetions miight require?
I just got into the thron a few days ago and am loving it. Though Gunnery V is 2 days away, I'm still tearing **** up with 250's, 200's, and blasters. I've done a lot of Blasterax setups so I'm familiar with the concept of tanking and such.
Also, what's a good fleet config for a thron?
I appreciate your help :)
- You will miss 100% of the shots you do not take. |
CKieschnick
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Posted - 2004.12.26 02:22:00 -
[139]
unless your enemy is within 5km that setup would probly get you killed =x
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CKieschnick
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Posted - 2004.12.26 02:22:00 -
[140]
unless your enemy is within 5km that setup would probly get you killed =x
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Max Hardcase
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Posted - 2004.12.26 21:18:00 -
[141]
Anyone ever tried to fit a bunch of overdrive boosters on a Blasterthron ? Would increase the MWD speed immensely.
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Max Hardcase
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Posted - 2004.12.26 21:18:00 -
[142]
Anyone ever tried to fit a bunch of overdrive boosters on a Blasterthron ? Would increase the MWD speed immensely.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.12.26 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Max Hardcase Anyone ever tried to fit a bunch of overdrive boosters on a Blasterthron ? Would increase the MWD speed immensely.
Absolutely not worth it. With good scanner use you can make sure to warp in close enough from the beginning.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
dalman
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Posted - 2004.12.26 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Max Hardcase Anyone ever tried to fit a bunch of overdrive boosters on a Blasterthron ? Would increase the MWD speed immensely.
Absolutely not worth it. With good scanner use you can make sure to warp in close enough from the beginning.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.12.26 21:33:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Max Hardcase Anyone ever tried to fit a bunch of overdrive boosters on a Blasterthron ? Would increase the MWD speed immensely.
One, you dont have any free lowslots on a blasterthron, unless you start dumping damage mods.
Two, the reduced cargo bay will decrease your ability to carry cap charges.
Three, the structure penalty may change the outcome of a close fight.
Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.12.26 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Max Hardcase Anyone ever tried to fit a bunch of overdrive boosters on a Blasterthron ? Would increase the MWD speed immensely.
One, you dont have any free lowslots on a blasterthron, unless you start dumping damage mods.
Two, the reduced cargo bay will decrease your ability to carry cap charges.
Three, the structure penalty may change the outcome of a close fight.
Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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Axia Firehead
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Fire Hawk Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:27:05 Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:26:27 My 1on1 thron setup is :
- 3x Mega Modal Neutron's (Antimatter or Ura) - 2x Mega Modal Ion's - 2x Cruise Arba's (FoF Cruise in case of ECM) - 1x Heavy Smarty
- 1x XL C5 - 1x FRX Heavy Cap (4 800 charges + 4 in cargohold) - 1x 90% Web - 1x Quad-Lif MWD
- 1 RCU II - 1 CPU II - 1 Med Armor Rep II - 3 Magnetic Dmg Mod II
Specialy designed for 1vs1, if u catch a BS, he's just dead :) That setup assume u not tanked but no need to, u can beat any BS before he gets u on armor. MWD to him, Web him, Fire, and keep bumping him to prevent him to align to warp, and before he can understand something kill him. That's a piece of cake
why your XLC5 ?? you want to empty your cap ?? your shield booster, without any hardener wont be of any use really. if you use them, you will kill your cap, and being toast before you can kill a tanked apoc.. and, if you don t use it in battle, then a medium is better for after, and use a large armor reparer instead a medium.
Carbide industries. Combat director |
Axia Firehead
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Fire Hawk Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:27:05 Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:26:27 My 1on1 thron setup is :
- 3x Mega Modal Neutron's (Antimatter or Ura) - 2x Mega Modal Ion's - 2x Cruise Arba's (FoF Cruise in case of ECM) - 1x Heavy Smarty
- 1x XL C5 - 1x FRX Heavy Cap (4 800 charges + 4 in cargohold) - 1x 90% Web - 1x Quad-Lif MWD
- 1 RCU II - 1 CPU II - 1 Med Armor Rep II - 3 Magnetic Dmg Mod II
Specialy designed for 1vs1, if u catch a BS, he's just dead :) That setup assume u not tanked but no need to, u can beat any BS before he gets u on armor. MWD to him, Web him, Fire, and keep bumping him to prevent him to align to warp, and before he can understand something kill him. That's a piece of cake
why your XLC5 ?? you want to empty your cap ?? your shield booster, without any hardener wont be of any use really. if you use them, you will kill your cap, and being toast before you can kill a tanked apoc.. and, if you don t use it in battle, then a medium is better for after, and use a large armor reparer instead a medium.
Carbide industries. Combat director |
Axia Firehead
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Fire Hawk Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:27:05 Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:26:27 My 1on1 thron setup is :
- 3x Mega Modal Neutron's (Antimatter or Ura) - 2x Mega Modal Ion's - 2x Cruise Arba's (FoF Cruise in case of ECM) - 1x Heavy Smarty
- 1x XL C5 - 1x FRX Heavy Cap (4 800 charges + 4 in cargohold) - 1x 90% Web - 1x Quad-Lif MWD
- 1 RCU II - 1 CPU II - 1 Med Armor Rep II - 3 Magnetic Dmg Mod II
Specialy designed for 1vs1, if u catch a BS, he's just dead :) That setup assume u not tanked but no need to, u can beat any BS before he gets u on armor. MWD to him, Web him, Fire, and keep bumping him to prevent him to align to warp, and before he can understand something kill him. That's a piece of cake
why your XLC5 ?? you want to empty your cap ?? your shield booster, without any hardener wont be of any use really. if you use them, you will kill your cap, and being toast before you can kill a tanked apoc.. and, if you don t use it in battle, then a medium is better for after, and use a large armor reparer instead a medium.
Carbide industries. Combat director |
Axia Firehead
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Fire Hawk Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:27:05 Edited by: Fire Hawk on 23/12/2004 20:26:27 My 1on1 thron setup is :
- 3x Mega Modal Neutron's (Antimatter or Ura) - 2x Mega Modal Ion's - 2x Cruise Arba's (FoF Cruise in case of ECM) - 1x Heavy Smarty
- 1x XL C5 - 1x FRX Heavy Cap (4 800 charges + 4 in cargohold) - 1x 90% Web - 1x Quad-Lif MWD
- 1 RCU II - 1 CPU II - 1 Med Armor Rep II - 3 Magnetic Dmg Mod II
Specialy designed for 1vs1, if u catch a BS, he's just dead :) That setup assume u not tanked but no need to, u can beat any BS before he gets u on armor. MWD to him, Web him, Fire, and keep bumping him to prevent him to align to warp, and before he can understand something kill him. That's a piece of cake
why your XLC5 ?? you want to empty your cap ?? your shield booster, without any hardener wont be of any use really. if you use them, you will kill your cap, and being toast before you can kill a tanked apoc.. and, if you don t use it in battle, then a medium is better for after, and use a large armor reparer instead a medium.
Carbide industries. Combat director |
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