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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar Cat's Cradle
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Posted - 2010.05.21 13:09:00 -
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For as much as I would love to explore 0.0 space, I wont because of warp bubbles. I've seen then planted all around gates at the exit point of warp routes.
What's the point when you cant even travel? So I stay out of 0.0 space. I have no incentive to go there.
I like a fight, but using warp bubbles is like beating up a kid in a wheel chair.
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Arthur Frayn
Edurus Erectus
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Posted - 2010.05.21 13:18:00 -
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A wiser player would fly a covert ops or force recon to do their exploring and evade the warp bubbles by warping to gates from celestial objects which are perpendicular to the direction of travel from his jump in point to the destination gate. -- Eventus stultorum magister. |
Elgaris Dukor
Caldari Femti Runa Eru ParadoXon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.21 13:19:00 -
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Hello.
Warp bubbles are tool controll the chokepoints in 0.0 space. Without a bubble there would be no way to catch a small and fast or even a cloaky ship. Even with bubbles its not easy to catch them.
If they keep you out they fullfill their purpose.
Elgaris.
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar Cat's Cradle
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Posted - 2010.05.21 13:20:00 -
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Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 21/05/2010 13:22:46
Originally by: Arthur Frayn A wiser player would fly a covert ops or force recon to do their exploring and evade the warp bubbles by warping to gates from celestial objects which are perpendicular to the direction of travel from his jump in point to the destination gate.
An even wiser player would plant warp bubbles at the exit warp point from celestial objects as well.
I've seen it. Like I said...not worth it.
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ThrashPower
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.21 13:23:00 -
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use a tech3 ship with interdiction nullifier if you are so scared of bubbles
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Elgaris Dukor
Caldari Femti Runa Eru ParadoXon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.21 13:27:00 -
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What is the purpose of you post? Are you really sugesting to remove warp bubbles from the game?
Elgaris
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.05.21 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr I am scared. Make the game easier for me.
I too dislike warp bubbles, as I play solo (occasionally with a scout alt) and they can be quite a pain.
But then, I don't play EVE because it is easy, I play it because it is hard. So, I currently live in 0.0.
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar Cat's Cradle
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Posted - 2010.05.21 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Elgaris Dukor What is the purpose of you post? Are you really sugesting to remove warp bubbles from the game?
Elgaris
No, but limit their proximity to jump gates at least.
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Asperath Fernandez
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Posted - 2010.05.21 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 21/05/2010 13:22:46
Originally by: Arthur Frayn A wiser player would fly a covert ops or force recon to do their exploring and evade the warp bubbles by warping to gates from celestial objects which are perpendicular to the direction of travel from his jump in point to the destination gate.
An even wiser player would plant warp bubbles at the exit warp point from celestial objects as well.
I've seen it. Like I said...not worth it.
Playing into a troll, I know...
With half a brain, and the D-scanner, those planets / moons aren't that scary... You've got a whole 30 seconds to hold cloak and check out your situation. Tho I have very rarely seen common celestials bubbled, random moons usually are not.
Either case, usually only the first 2-5 systems in you have to worry about (Really only the first 90% of the time) being that heavily camped / bubbled. There is only so much of the system that can be effectively camped.
It's not near as bad as you are making it out to be. Roll a noob alt and try it in a cheapo frigate.
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Elgaris Dukor
Caldari Femti Runa Eru ParadoXon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.21 13:47:00 -
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Edited by: Elgaris Dukor on 21/05/2010 13:47:07
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Originally by: Elgaris Dukor What is the purpose of you post? Are you really sugesting to remove warp bubbles from the game?
Elgaris
No, but limit their proximity to jump gates at least.
Well that wont happen. Warp bubbles are an important tool nowadays. If you want a safer travel through 0.0 you have to either choose a different ship (there are plenty suitable) or get a friendly scout. That are your options.
Elgaris.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.05.21 13:51:00 -
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bubbles aren't exactly hard to deal with.
Still, if they keep you out of 0.0, I guess they're doing their job.
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kurg
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:00:00 -
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For as much as I would love World of Warcraft Battlegrounds, I wont fight in World of Warcraft Battlegrounds because other players have better PvP gear than i do, I've seen them all around the Battlegrounds.
What's the point when you cant even fight? So i stay out of World of Warcraft Battlegrounds. I have no incentive to go there.
I like a fight, but players with better PvP gear than me is like beating up a kid in a wheel chair.
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meat vapour
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:00:00 -
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Nooma K'Larr: Love em? Hate em? I like a fight, but reading one of his poasts is like beating up a kid in a wheel chair.
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Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari Rancer Defence League Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:13:00 -
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hi cat here
at first when i heard about bubbles in eve i was like great! this sounds like a lot of lols! i love playing with bubbles especially in the bath hehe
well i went out exploring with my friend to 0.0 but well let me tell you this... i wasnt lolling very hard when my stupid ship wouldnt warp away and then evil people just proceeded to mercilessly gank me
i am quite scared of bubbles now
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Lashnar
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:17:00 -
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I remember when I first got caught in a warp bubble. I was in a shuttle. I sat in the station after being podded for about a minute before I figured out how to evade warp bubbles.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Originally by: Elgaris Dukor What is the purpose of you post? Are you really sugesting to remove warp bubbles from the game?
Elgaris
No, but limit their proximity to jump gates at least.
Seriously, level with me: are you actually this dumb, or just a really persistent troll. If you are a troll, then congrats.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails hi cat here
at first when i heard about bubbles in eve i was like great! this sounds like a lot of lols! i love playing with bubbles especially in the bath hehe
well i went out exploring with my friend to 0.0 but well let me tell you this... i wasnt lolling very hard when my stupid ship wouldnt warp away and then evil people just proceeded to mercilessly gank me
i am quite scared of bubbles now
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It saddens me you hate bubbles and am glad you got violated, Jake.
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Abbot Laarkin
Order Of Mystical Mountain Monks
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 21/05/2010 13:22:46
Originally by: Arthur Frayn A wiser player would fly a covert ops or force recon to do their exploring and evade the warp bubbles by warping to gates from celestial objects which are perpendicular to the direction of travel from his jump in point to the destination gate.
An even wiser player would plant warp bubbles at the exit warp point from celestial objects as well.
I've seen it. Like I said...not worth it.
And the wisest players use d-scan and bookmarks.
Or they have a friend who does.
Wish I still had the screenie of a bubble camp I jumped into once. 30+ large bubbles, several (very) fast inties and a drone swarm to end all drone swarms.
Still not entirely sure how I got out of that one....it was too bloody close for comfort.
Had the giggles for a while afterwards though so well worth it... those were the days. ----
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I was under the impression they were 37 and had an IQ of 12
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: TheLordofAllandNothing on 21/05/2010 14:36:24
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr For as much as I would love to explore 0.0 space, I wont because of warp bubbles. I've seen then planted all around gates at the exit point of warp routes.
What's the point when you cant even travel? So I stay out of 0.0 space. I have no incentive to go there.
I like a fight, but using warp bubbles is like beating up a kid in a wheel chair.
Jesus, use a t3 if you are crying this much about bubbles. Bubbles is the only thing in the game that can be used to tackle fleets easily(and even then my interdictors become dust pretty quickly) and are excellent for catching the stupid people who can't adjust their warp vector to not get caught in a bubble. They also catch unlucky people too but hey thats eve.
Bubbles are fine, and are an excellent part of this game, they make sure players in dieing ships don't warp off so they instead stay there and die, as otherwise your fleets would have to have 300 rifters on top of the battleships to keep the opposition in place
0.0 space is easy as hell to explore, the only bubbles i find when roaming in my pilgrim are usually in the border systems between high/low sec and null sec and in peoples private ratting systems, which i like to sit in on and disrupt.
Plus i always spend the time setting up bounce spots above gates which i find are usually bubbled so as to evade them more easily(unless they really want to keep someone in/out and frogspawn the entire gate)
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails hi cat here
at first when i heard about bubbles in eve i was like great! this sounds like a lot of lols! i love playing with bubbles especially in the bath hehe
well i went out exploring with my friend to 0.0 but well let me tell you this... i wasnt lolling very hard when my stupid ship wouldnt warp away and then evil people just proceeded to mercilessly gank me
i am quite scared of bubbles now
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It saddens me you hate bubbles and am glad you got violated, Jake.
Let's make this fair. What's your real name? ****? VOTE CAT
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Xyla Kador
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:42:00 -
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just last nite i went 30 jumps to go pick up some old assets and then 30 jumps back.....all of it 0.0
on the way back a heretic started chasing me but being the awesome anathema pilot i was, even tho he chased me thru like 4 systems and bubbled me something lke 5 times, he never got me ^^
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:48:00 -
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Warp bubbles are stupid. Easy mode at it's finest.
It's not fun sitting on a gate at a bubble camp (lived and defended space in syndicate for nearly a year, 24/7 bubblecamps practically).
It's completely ******ed getting caught in one, and just because you brought a cov ops doesn't mean you're getting out with it.
As "necessary" as they might be, they are a lame mechanic and make 0.0 suck that much more.
They should be removed from npc nullsec. Let the sov holders keep em.
Obviously I pretty much hate them completely.
But for the record, I only changed my sig because I was annoying myself with the last one.
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:54:00 -
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I support the hate for warp bubbles. I think it's a hotfix for the lack of proper combat mechanics, and not even a good one. And they look silly. The only way to get out of a warp bubble alive is to have a lazy, sleepy, stupid opponent. Or 5. Or 20.
"Bring a t3" .. oh man. Yea. Ok. I'll just bring a t3. I think everyone should fly a t3 just to pass a gatecamp. That's a good idea.
Noobs should infact have that in the first few steps of their tutorial, "how to train for your t3" cause else they might be unable to enter nullsec.
Maybe that's even the core of the whole problem. Someone needs to tell the noobs to train for t3 and buy some plexes to be able to afford them, kinda as compensation for a lack of a real income while they're training for their t3s. VOTE CAT
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:56:00 -
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I have escaped plenty of bubbles in cov ops, bombers, recons, and intys.
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Nareg Maxence
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.21 14:57:00 -
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I think you will find that the majority of players don't have any problems with how they work. The ones that do needs to learn to play the game. L2P for short.
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.21 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nareg Maxence I think you will find that the majority of players don't have any problems with how they work. The ones that do needs to learn to play the game. L2P for short.
Enlighten us. How do you escape a gatecamp with a warp bubble and a gang of 5 people? VOTE CAT
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Nareg Maxence
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.21 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftgaze
Originally by: Nareg Maxence I think you will find that the majority of players don't have any problems with how they work. The ones that do needs to learn to play the game. L2P for short.
Enlighten us. How do you escape a gatecamp with a warp bubble and a gang of 5 people?
Fly a covops? There is nothing hard about it really.
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.21 15:06:00 -
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The whole "don't travel alone in null sec in a ship that you isn't cloaky or a inty/vaga/dramiel" arguement comes to mind.
Use a scout, read intel channels, etc.
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War Kitten
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Posted - 2010.05.21 15:10:00 -
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tl;dr: Part of the game is hard. It should be removed because I fail at that part.
HTFU
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.21 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftgaze
Originally by: Nareg Maxence I think you will find that the majority of players don't have any problems with how they work. The ones that do needs to learn to play the game. L2P for short.
Enlighten us. How do you escape a gatecamp with a warp bubble and a gang of 5 people?
1. Double click somewhere in space, preferably away from the bubble. 2. Click on MWD icon. 3. Click on cloaky icon. 4. ???? 5. Profit
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