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Posted - 2010.05.21 19:14:00 -
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Edited by: T''Amber on 21/05/2010 19:21:22
Greetings,
I have this idea. It requires 300bil isk, and I can't tell you what its for, but I can guarantee it will be entertaining and evewide.
Things to note:
- This is extemely hi-risk
- You'll probably get none of your isk back.
- All donators will be included in the credits of said event.
- The Event is non-profit
Investments can be sent ingame to the character "event registration".
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.21 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: db T Begging isn't allowed on the forums hth
Its not begging, its an investment into our community and eve. If you don't trust me don't invest, simple as that - I also will be putting isk into the fund.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.21 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ray McCormack So this is what rep grinding gets you?
I don't understand your statement completely, expand your thoughts some more please. My reputation is required to make this possible yes, but I'm not sure about the rest.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.21 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Zea Aestria Could you please clarify if the character is "event registration" singular or "event registrations" plural?
Thanks Zea! Fixed.
Originally by: Estel Arador Could you elaborate on the "high risk" and "probably" not getting returns?
The interest in the event may be completly non-existant, resulting in all assets and prizes bought for said event being resold and returned to investors - which could be of an amount less than purchased.
Originally by: Estel Arador Is it simply "not getting returns at all"? How is this an investment?
I'll make this more obvious on the post.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.21 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ray McCormack So why not change the term "investment" for "donation" to prevent any misconceptions?
Included.
Originally by: Corcyrus Endymion
I got me some rep and am now trying to get out with the maximum possible profit?!
As you don't know me personally this may seem true, but this is not the case. I've already given all my obtained wealth to some of the community - if I'd wanted the isk then I'd have kept it. I sincerly would like to keep contributing to the community and I'd love to do so on a grander scale.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.21 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Alexi Blue Regardless of what your true intentions are, I think you are being extremely optimistic with this.
Event scalage is expected - I'm experienced in compeltely ridiculous sized ventures. I will also be putting isk into the fund, although seeing as I'm down about 200bil or so it may not be much to start. I'm also expecting this to last for some time.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.21 21:33:00 -
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Edited by: T''Amber on 21/05/2010 21:33:46
Originally by: Anaxis Muntaine T'Amber - you must agree that this has all the trappings of an effort at an epic scam - using your well-built earned reputation and picking this as your moment to capitalize and run with billions... I admit, if it worked, it would be praiseowrthy, but you do see the inherent problem..?
no.
edit: Once you see what I've designed and planned you'll understand better methinks.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.22 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77 This is a donation!! Says it in right in the first post!
T-Amber is not looking for investments, though I'm not sure why she included that word in it. She is doing a fundraising drive to be able to do more giveaways.
To me its both; If you aren't interested in actually taking part in the event I have planned or do you care about what it will be then you're donating. Donating is expecting nothing in return.
If do want to take part, have an interest in the community, or are just curious as to what the hell this is about, you'll be investing. Although it is possible that a portion of the isk sent will be used in other investments to boost the fund I haven't got any plans currently to do so as I have absolutely no time free atm.
Originally by: Kaya Divine Not interested. Just because I needed to block multiple characters who spammed channels on which I was present with vote for T'Amber msg.
Thats what the block button is for, however saying that anyone who promotes anything for me has strict guidelines for the amount of posts and pastes they can make. If they follow the rules I give them they should be posting alot less than all the other spahm - Once every 10mins in a local, and once every 15mins in a relevant trade channel.
Originally by: omgfreemoniez Spend your own isk, not other people's? Given how well known you are I wouldn't be surprised if you had ten times the amount you're asking for tbh.
Gave almost all of it away. Although I don't have exact amounts I think its around 450bil in prizes and gifts given to pilots in total, with about 150bil or so of that given outside of SOE main events.
I'll reply to some of the other posts when I get back from work.
-T'amber.
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Posted - 2010.05.22 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Reported
I'm not sure what rule I'm breaking, but maybe posting a link to the relevant location would be more helpful or contructive?
I've never posted in this forum topic before, but this is where I was directed by some players as to where I should post it. Its not an "event" yet, there are no sales, and its not yet a general topic.
Almost all of you are assuming I'm like everyone else in eve and only interested in myself. Some quick research will show you that I've spent considerable time and effort in our community in some form or another. I'm not completely stupid, the reason why the post is so clear (which may make it look idiotic) as I'm trying to be as transparent as possible.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.22 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
Well those players were wrong. This is not the forum section for charity/events, this is a forum section for Market Discussions and for investments in businesses which sell stuff or otherwise make money from the market. Note the "make money" part in the previous sentence.
Once there is a decent amount of isk in the fund my hope is that it can be partially invested in multiple areas so that it can increase itself. This could possibly be why they suggested this topic, although I can and have made this amount of isk before I do not have anywhere the time to do so again - nor am I upto play with IPOs or other investments other people may be offering. I'm hoping to get both suggestions and isk from this post.
Originally by: Estel Arador
Your intentions may be laudable, but your framing of this as an "investment" is laughable. You can redefine 'investment' all you like, but here an investment has a (positive) return in isk. From what I've been able to make out so far, you're offering nothing tangible in return for giving you money.
Its quite apparent on the first page that the return on the investment is not in isk. People often ask why I invest so much time, isk and effort running and sponsering events with no expectation of making any isk (and often loosing it). The main reason is that it gives me the oppurtunity to be apart of something bigger than myself which I enjoy immensly, but also because I believe in this game and I'd like for it to grow - and I can play apart of this by supplying things for pilots to do that are both fun, and creative.
Regardless of how this thread goes I'm still going to continue doing what I do, and the event I have planned will just take longer to eventuate; I'm aware I will be the biggest contributor to this fund.
Originally by: Estel Arador
There is a place for everything, but this is probably not the place for your thing. (If you look at me, you'll notice that I'm not selling shares in EACS here in MD - as shares in businesses often are - but in Sell Orders, with the message that they won't give any return very explicitly spelled out.)
Yeah, I also sell my shares in the Sell Orders - I am aware that this is not the thread to sell shares in. I'll ask a dev on irc later and see if they can tell me.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.22 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador So you will be using the isk for something else than you claim in your post? Very bad form if you ask me. What safeguards do you have in place to ensure that the money will be properly invested instead of given to failures/scammers? Who will manage the fund? Who will keep an eye on the manager?
I don't see any problems with investing donated isk to make the fund bigger, or so that it meets the target quicker - if you send me isk, I'm assuming you're going to trust what I do with it otherwise why bother?
Regarding what the isk could be invested in, well thats part of what this post was for...
Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: T'Amber Its quite apparent on the first page that the return on the investment is not in isk.
My point was that if the return is not in isk, it is not an investment. What the essay about your motivations has to with it, I don't know. You should be selling your business plan (if it exists), not yourself.
You are correct, investment is normally in the expectation of a increase in monetary return. However it can also mean spending or devoting for futuure advantage or benefit (ie. invested much time and energy in getting a good education.) or to devote morally or psychologically, as to a purpose; commit. (ie. Men of our generation are invested in what they do, women in what we are"). My purpose is to benfit the community using an investment of money to fund a massive event in the hope of benifiting our community somehow (or atleast entertain it with trollage) - however saying that, I realise that this particular thread topic is quite specific and of course there would be an expectation of meaning which is why I've modified the post as was suggested.
And my Business plan? I'm going to spend all the isk in a spectacular way, and then gief out the loots to the winners in creative ways. Read the first post again, it should cover that somewhere.
Originally by: Estel Arador
In short, you've not done the proper research and preparation to even get close to being taken seriously.
I respect your opinion Estel, but you have it slightly wrong. I've been designing this particular event and doing similar projects like this successfully for over a year now. If we can't get the fund to a useable level, thats fine - I'm neither in a rush nor expecting this project to happen quickly.
Originally by: Estel Arador The expectation that people here would even be remotely interested in giving you isk with just the statement "I'm T'Amber and I'm famous, give me isk, it's fun" is more than a little misguided.
It may look like that, but I'm not expecting much from everyone - The assumtion is that I will be the major contributor to this fund and thats cool although People donate and give me isk and prizes all the time for SOE and that is what I'm hoping for. I also like proving the people who call scam without thought wrong
Thanks for your words and keep em coming. -T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.22 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: shackattack isk sent cause its T'Amber
Welcome to the MD
Maybe read the first post, it quite transparently states you're going to be giving me isk to do with as planned, and that you're probably not going to get it back. I doubt all those other people wrote a post explaining what they were doing before they did whatever it was they did.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.22 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador You haven't tried to comply with them, or even shown that you're aware of them. I'm not saying you would've gotten the isk if you had done your research and had properly prepared your request
K, I misunderstood - point me in the right direction please.
Originally by: Estel Arador
Why the hedge?
Also note that though it is transparently stated, it also contradictory stated: "If the event fails you may not get your full isk donation/ investment back" "If this fails to go anyway all isk donations of over 1million will be returned in full."
Yup you're completely correct. I had to read it a couple of time to see what were referring to, and I will fix that.
As this may take a while there could possibly be hundreds of small donations and in the event of failure they'd not be factored into any refunds of any kind. I find this unlikely to happen as the final event can be scaled to match what fundage is available.
Refunds due to the final event failing would mean that any assets or prizes bought would need to be liquidated back into isk, and then redistributed back to people who donated, which would probably be at a lower amount than purchased. Probably as in highly likely when other possible costs are factored.
Failure = no interest in the projects final event.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.23 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: T'Amber K, I misunderstood - point me in the right direction please.
Well, the stickies are always a good place to start at.
Yup I've read in there and the post had been changed to suit within a couple of hours of posting, I havent read all the hundreds of posts however. I'm not sure if people have missed the start of the post but it does mention that I was interested in some discussion on how they think this kind of money could be made with investment, but I understand that theres relatively small amounts of people who will do anything for free for the community. Why have I put the donations part up already?? Because I've already started it and regardless of what you all think its going to happen already - I've already made more isk than this before and I can do it again, I just don't have as much time in game as I used to.
Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: T'Amber Failure = no interest in the projects final event.
Still a bit vague don't you think? If only one person is interested, the project's final event is a success?
Without ruining the event its hard to explain, so this falls under trusting me to know what I'm doing. If you have suggestions you'd like to post for free go ahead, but I'm pretty tight on my isk spending so consulting is out of the question.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.23 05:11:00 -
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Edited by: T''Amber on 23/05/2010 05:14:13
Hey Phoebe long time!
Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel I'd imagine they would want their ISK to be managed carefully, with a view to supporting the "events" long term.
This is isk for one project. My other events will continue as they do but in a different format with what you've just stated as being the main reason for the change.
Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel 300b is a ridiculous amount of isk to give away. Might be an attention grabber, and possibly a way to generate more coverage, but why not 100b, or 50b, or 20b as a weekly event?
This event could last for over 6months depending on the amount of entrants and interest, although the first part of the event have a fixed time and will last for less than a day.
Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel Why are you approaching individual investors as opposed to in game businesses who may be prepared to sponsor in return for exposure?
Although this is the only place I've posted on the EVE-O forums, that doesn't mean I'm just targeting this forum.
Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel Not sure if you recall the suggestion I made to you a while back about getting someone in to audit your events to ensure you aren't bleeding ISK. You said you were also spending a lot on advertising, but Chribba's Titan/Mothership lotteries sell out within a few days based on a forum thread and an ingame mailing list; I'm pretty sure I suggested a mailing list a while back but never got a response, was on the sales thread so maybe got missed or I didn't spot a response.
Yup, I've had a mailing list for some time now (I had one when you asked but it wasn't using it for events yet). Chribba is Chribba, only one other person comes close to selling as fast and thats Darknesss with his Mothership lottos - I'm not interested in events with those ships period. My other events can sustain themselves as they are, but they're not designed to make large amounts of isk - and neither is this project.
Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel It might be worthwhile to ask this particular section of the community how to make these events viable long term and take on board criticisms/suggestions, before you ask for ISK (you could change this to a discussion thread and backtrack a bit)... snip (running out of room to post) snip ...
This is explained in the post above and on the front page. I don't want discussion on the event, I would like some suggestions as to how I could go about investing some of the isk in the fund while its being added to...
Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel Secure the event funds in such a way that the majority are satisfied; if you try to use the "reputation" card here you will get stomped on, mostly because of Curzon. I'm pretty sure you know you will need 3rd party security, the onus is on you to arrange that (I notice you are asking people to discuss whilst accepting funds which is a bit hmm). Some people here may genuinely be able to offer advice and assistance, but you need to be open to discussion rather than defending your plan.
Ah.. I don't get this reputation crap. My reputation is built on trust and making creative events: its extremely imporant to this thread. And again, the point of this post is to get discussion aswell as exposure...
The reason for discussions on 3rd parties involvment is more to do with tracking the isk than actually using them. If I send isk to say Grendell every month, and my website tracks my characters wallet, how is this amount going to be defined, and how is this going to be shown on my website and how would it be programmed. The other problem of course is how to go about it without it being a hassle for the 3rd party - Regarding starting the fund already; most of the isk will be from me, so why can't I start the fund already??
If you don't trust me, don't take part. simple as that!
Nice to hear from you again! -T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.23 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
TL:DR
Thats a great quote and the thread explains it very well, but I'm not wondering why everyones annoyed and this is going pretty close to how I expected it would.
If the forum moderators decide this doesn't belong here thats fine and I'll accept that, and until then feel free to comment further. Naysayers help keep me on track and fuel my passion, you're all so serious!
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.23 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: Nobzy
You have the OP. Anyone can read it, or not read it. Based on that, you can send isk, or not send isk. It might be going right where it is stated it's going, or it might be a scam. You decide what you do with your pixel isk.
Playing monopoly with you guys must be fun.
Good to see someone understands X)
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.23 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: "All the crap above blah blah blah blah blah
You all assume I'm asking for isk from the people who normally use this channel, and I'm not - this was just the place I was suggested to post it.
I don't mind being trolled, second guessed, confused with someone else, ridiculed or whatever, but stay on topic please and try to be relevant.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.23 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys
No it says ,
Originally by: T'Amber If the event fails you may not get your full isk donation/ investment back
So we are going from a 'worst case scenario you won't get isk back' to a 'best case scenario you might get isk back'.
Best case scenario is that its a success. I'm only going to refund if theres a catastrophic fail which is the worst case scenario.
Originally by: Sturmwolke Sounds like another Lui Kai exit scheme. It'd be interesting to see how this pans out. Even with 5% to the pot, there's really nothing that stops the amount from being utilized in short-term investments for profits.
I'm not familiar with Lui Kai (I tried to google by my google fu failed), and I also don't see a problem with investing part of the fund.
No-ones suggested any ideas yet though, but i'm lurking in some posts checking out the go go. My experience is limited to science and industry and I'd need research the current state of affairs to get up to date before I'd even consider going down that path again.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.23 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: T''Amber on 23/05/2010 11:04:25
Originally by: Nobzy This thread so totally delivers
It worked for Anhk, it can work for me.
Originally by: Nobzy All your serious business MDDs getting all butthurt in their seriousness fighting trolls who don't take pixels as serious business, and lulz ensue :D
I think maybe the fact that I get any isk with no return nor *completely outlined plan other than trusting me may hurt sensibilities a little. Its all good, I don't expect everyone to get it nor even be vaguely interested in taking part.
*this is intentional.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.23 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: T'Amber
I think maybe the fact that I get any isk with no return nor *completely outlined plan other than trusting me may hurt sensibilities a little. Its all good, I don't expect everyone to get it nor even be vaguely interested in taking part.
Not really. I think what annoys people (and by "people", I mean me) is that the mods, who have in the past removed perfectly legitimate MD topics to the ass end of nowhere seem happy to leave this one where it is despite it having absolutely nothing to do with MD. Inappropriate application of the term "investment" does not a legitimate MD thread make. This is a request for donations and has nothing to do with markets or the discussion of markets.
The reason for this being in this thread can be found on the second or third line, I think I bolded it earlier tonight.
Originally by: RAW23 What hurts sensibilities a bit is the fact that you haven't asked the mods to move the thread yourself, despite being told by pretty much every regular participant in this forum that it is in the wrong place. You are also hurting your own cause. People do not come to MD looking for places to donate their cash. I would probably have thrown in a few hundred mil if I had seen this in another forum but I'm not going to validate a non-investment's presence in MD by supporting it whilst it is here.
You are making assumptions above that are in error.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.23 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ray McCormack
Ambie, it's not that we don't like what you're doing, it's how you're doing it that gets our goat. We probably will donate to your cause, but please don't call it an investment and please request the thread be moved to a different forum.
Then we'll be cool and I'll buy you a beer for the Bulls butt-thrashing the Crusaders last night.
I wasn't avoiding the issue. I told you that you were assuming something that was wrong, and you have - that is not avoiding the topic. Some patience is required though.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.23 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from Market Discussions to Events. Also cleared up some trolling
Thanks Adida. Patience is rewarded.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.23 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Syds Sinclair The great and terrible CCP mods have forsaken the MD Elites by not vanquishing this traitor called T'Amber!
I didn't hear you clearly, care to repeat that? PS: Truly, for my part it had nothing to do with who posted. It was what and where. Take it for what it is worth.
I'd petitioned them to move it after the first couple of complaints.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.23 16:55:00 -
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Edited by: T''Amber on 23/05/2010 16:56:12
Originally by: BrottarBritta So you're gonna beg for 300B ISK for an event and you will probably take from that 300B to other events
Something like that, although I'm not sure what you mean by "other events"
Originally by: BrottarBritta ("Although it is possible that a portion of the isk sent will be used in other investments")
If it could potentially increase the size of the fund without too much risk this is possible yes. Did I say it like that, if so it should have been "It is possible that a portion of the isk will be using in investments to increase the size of the fund".
Originally by: BrottarBritta And you already have 200B ISK that you will not use for this event?
I don't have the kind of isk at the moment.
Originally by: BrottarBritta Awesome
I hope so, alot of effort has been put into designing the games for the event, and theres alot more work to be done while the fund grows. Hope it doesnt take 3 years.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.23 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: BrottarBritta
Originally by: T'Amber
Long answere I cut out since it's a few post above. -T'amber
You clearly say that you might use that 300B for other events/investments, so I don't see why your trying to wiggle out of that question?
I didn't wriggle out of anything, its on the first page and above where you quoted originally. Regarding funding other events this is a given, the main event isn't just one, but a whole heap of different games and er.. things.
Originally by: BrottarBritta As for the question about your 200B; Originally by: T'Amber
"Event scalage is expected - I'm experienced in compeltely ridiculous sized ventures. I will also be putting isk into the fund, although seeing as I'm down about 200bil or so it may not be much to start. I'm also expecting this to last for some time." It could be that you've spent those 200B since you wrote that, but I somewhat doubt it :D
Thats a communcation error and a local gargon fail, I'm down about 200bil means I've lost about 200bil.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.23 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: T''Amber on 23/05/2010 22:41:09
Originally by: Kephael
Why would investors want to give you isk so you can run lotteries at a loss? I think it'd be more fun for an investor in this case to suicide haulers in high sec or self destruct capital ships.
Its not for a lottery - the event will be free for anyone to enter, and I can guarantee it will be more fun than self destructing capitals :)
I'm expeciting donations from 10k - 10mil isk.
Regarding running lottos at a loss (I'm assuming you mean my ships of eve lottos) that will change after SOE5 - it will be the last one of its type, interest is obviously waining and I'll be trying a different angle to make sure its self sufficiant.
Originally by: BrottarBritta
Originally by: T'Amber Thats a communcation error and a local gargon fail, I'm down about 200bil means I've lost about 200bil.
Yarr, you're totally right, I read "down TO 200 bil", sorry for that.
Not a problem!
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.25 14:57:00 -
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Edited by: T''Amber on 25/05/2010 15:02:20
Originally by: HellGate fr Edited by: HellGate fr on 25/05/2010 14:38:03 I won't donate anything if I don't know what the event is.
ITSA TARP!
There are traps involved in the parts of the event yes, quite a few infact. Funnily enough I think you're the first person to actually ask about that part :)
The "Event" is actually a whole crap load of different events that are relevant to eachother in some way, with both single and team games. Theres a wide range of different types of events to entice all player styles, with rewards and prizes also designed in this way. There will be both individual prizes and an overall winner.
EDIT: Also to note is that some of the games aren't finalized yet and are extremely reliant on how much isk is available and also the amount of entrants. Testing of some of these events will be done during the time leading up to it starting (This may take a while so we have time) on sisi which some people may be invited to help test.
-T'amber
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Posted - 2010.05.28 07:01:00 -
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Almost reached 1%!!!
-T'amber
SHIPS OF EVE FIVE
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.05.29 18:43:00 -
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Four out of Five 3rd Parties have been contacted and they're all wiling to help. One more to go.
-T'amber
SHIPS OF EVE FIVE
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com Origin of Symmetry
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Posted - 2010.06.10 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: T'Amber Four out of Five 3rd Parties have been contacted and they're all wiling to help. One more to go. -T'amber
This event will be delayed until I have wrapped up all other ventures and can spend more time promoting it.
-T'amber
SHIPS OF EVE FIVE
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com Origin of Symmetry
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Posted - 2010.06.12 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Yuto Kung
Originally by: T'Amber
Originally by: T'Amber Four out of Five 3rd Parties have been contacted and they're all wiling to help. One more to go. -T'amber
This event will be delayed until I have wrapped up all other ventures and can spend more time promoting it.
-T'amber
Where have we heard that one before? Did you wrap up the ShipsOfEVE V scam yet? With your "trustworthy" external party FX?
Heh, I was wondering when you'd post again, although I thought it would be on a different forum. If you'd like to see why I've had no time to promote this thread come to my channel tomorrow 13th June - anytime from 00:00gmt - 23:00gmt.
The channel is called "www.shipsofeve.com" and the draw for SOEV at around 21:00gmt on the same day.
-T'amber
SHIPS OF EVE FIVE
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com Origin of Symmetry
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Posted - 2010.06.14 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sleipnyrr So its basically a jita "send me isk ill double it" scammer, only slightly more popular and wont actually return isk even if it was like 10k, which would generally get doubled as bait...
I'm pretty sure it states quite clearly that you'll get nothing back. Getting a return would depend on whether you took part in the actual event or not, or whether you care about having something different and fun to do.
-T'amber
SHIPS OF EVE FIVE
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com Origin of Symmetry
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Posted - 2010.06.18 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Richard Christy Potentially a truly epic scam, gl with it.
Sorry thought you'd actually done some research before you posted. nvm.
-T'amber
SHIPS OF EVE X 1.44% of Target Fund Met
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com Origin of Symmetry
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Posted - 2010.06.26 05:03:00 -
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Some modules have been contracted aswell as some more anon donations thanks!
-T'amber
SHIPS OF EVE 5.5 win cool stuffÖ
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com Origin of Symmetry
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Posted - 2010.06.30 02:50:00 -
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Edited by: T''Amber on 30/06/2010 02:53:39
Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder I want to see this before I die.
Me too. If necessary I will sell some accounts to generate some more iskies and maybe a rethink this whole concept - although I do not want to sell tickets (I'd like this to be a free event) it may be necessary....
-T'amber
SHIPS OF EVE 5.5 win cool stuffÖ
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.07.03 17:58:00 -
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Some more item donations thanks!
-T'amber
[SoE:at8] Win the 1st Publicly available Adrestia and Utu - rare ships
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.07.07 05:35:00 -
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Almost 3%
woot!
[SoE:at8] Win the 1st Publicly available Adrestia and Utu - rare ships
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.07.08 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: T''Amber on 08/07/2010 19:03:34
Originally by: Eliserae
Originally by: cosmoray I may be out of touch, but:
1. Who are you?
2. What do you do?
3. If you have a good/great rep, how did you earn it?
Details please.
T'amber Entertain Entertaining
There are some links on the first page if you'd like some more info.
Originally by: Y'eroni Alel Considering the amount of trolling in here, this has to be epic either way. Sent you 10m :)
Cheers! Trolls feed me and keep me on track.
Originally by: Chesty McJubblies Almost 1% of the goal in 7 weeks. Should be there in about 14 years at this rate... o_O
:) Maybe, but I've not advertised this or marketed it anywhere except this post and my channel.
I'm happy with this being on slow simmer while i finish some other projects I am working on which have been designed with this fund in mind. Theres also still alot of programming, writing and event designing to be done so theres no rush right this minute.
-T'amber
[SoE:at8] Win the 1st Publicly available Adrestia and Utu - rare ships
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.07.09 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Thresh Avery And it's not as though asking for donations could ever be scamming anyway, to all those morons in the MD forum from pages back.
Anyway, good luck getting the funds together!
The original post was worded slightly differently than it is now, possibly in a way to get attention - but I couldn't be sure
And Thanks!
-T'amber
[SoE:at8] Win the 1st Publicly available Adrestia and Utu - rare ships
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.07.22 06:15:00 -
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I think theres another 30mil isk in there somewhere
[SoE:X]
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.07.23 19:50:00 -
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Phrinsar Asnurich anonomously donated 1bil.
oops.
[SoE:X]
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.07.24 19:11:00 -
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Made some hats and sold em.
[SoE:X]
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com Vanir Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.26 14:58:00 -
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1 billion isk lent @ 10% for 2 months.
-T'amber
[SoE:X]
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: mechtech Edited by: mechtech on 05/08/2010 03:56:42 You should start with a smaller event to show a basic idea of what you're going for. Maybe a 10-20B isk event to start out, then 300B. Only Chribba could raise 300B like this, and even that might take some time.
I run 120bil isk events all the time and most people are aware of what I do. The reason for this being so slow is that I've been busy in RL and haven't had time to make isk or to promote this. I'm still waiting on the wallet tracking software - I should have gone and learnt php, it would have taken me less time...
[SoE:X]
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.11 05:43:00 -
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3billion isk lent @ 10% p/ month for 3 months.
-T'amber
[SoE:X]
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.13 23:59:00 -
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1bil isk lent @ 10% for 3 months.
-T'amber
[SoE:X]
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.18 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: T'Amber 3billion isk lent @ 10% p/ month for 3 months.
100,000,000isk interest paid for month 1, 200mil isk remaining with 23 days left to pay.
[SoE:X]
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.24 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Xydonus Xavior Sounds like lots of unique and interesting ships will be acquired for this epic event :P
I'm sure i don't know what you're talking about.
-T'amber
[SoE:X]
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:36:00 -
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Originally by: T'Amber
Originally by: T'Amber 3billion isk lent @ 10% p/ month for 3 months.
100,000,000isk interest paid for month 1, 200mil isk remaining with 23 days left to pay.
200mil remaining interest paid for this month. Still awaiting payments from the other loan.
-T'amber
[SoE:X]
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.09.08 05:08:00 -
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Originally by: T'Amber 1bil isk lent @ 10% for 3 months.
-T'amber
100mil isk paid in interest, reason was incorrectly put as "donation" instead of "interest"
-T'amber
[SoE:X]
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.09.17 19:16:00 -
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The four active writers for SOEX have been paid their first paycheck @ 400mil isk each.
-T'amber
[SoE:X]
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.09.19 05:58:00 -
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SOEX as a Charity has been cancelled. The events from within SOEX will be released as seperate low cost events to be announced soon. Thankyou to everyone that donated, your isk should have been refunded. Please contact me if you haven't recieved your donation back.
-T'amber
[SoE:UTU] Win a rare ship for 10mil
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.09.26 06:01:00 -
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Anyone who has not recieved their Isk please convo me asap thanks.
T'amber
[SoE:UTU] Win a rare ship for 10mil
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