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mkmin
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Posted - 2010.05.28 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Sisyphus
Originally by: asdade
Dont want to be rude or smacky, but please show me two "features" that were reconsidered and fixed due to playerbase dissagrement..
alliance contacts limit upped 300 -> 2600
profile security beefed up. now completely at player decision, was "excellent contacts share information".
Thats just in the last month.
That's such bull crap. Players wanted, asked, begged for it to be default 'no pilots.' You didn't do squat for nobody. Who do you think you're lying to?
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Blnukem 192
Amarr Clan Gold Viper
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Posted - 2010.05.28 22:15:00 -
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Once more stating that; contacts and standings SHOULD BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE, FIX THIS ALREADY!
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Xeross155
Minmatar Fusion Death Inc. Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.05.28 22:32:00 -
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First of all it was a disappointment to me that the folders disappeared it allowed me to categorize people so I could easily identify who did what.
Second of all, the 300 person limit. Diplomats are gonna have huge problems with this, there's people with over 1000 people in their contact list. And 1% of the player base is still more than 3000 people.
Thanks for your time, Xeross --------------------------------------------- Xeross' ventures into EVE |
Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.05.28 22:48:00 -
[94]
Madness?
Apply | CBSN Lounge
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Blnukem 192
Amarr Clan Gold Viper
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Posted - 2010.05.29 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dan O'Connor
Madness?
9/10
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2010.05.29 22:03:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Misunderstood Genius Generally I would strongly recommend that CCP should form up several strong ingame corps for PvP/PvE etc. by hired and PAYED very experienced +3 years players - important: with brain, intelligence, right attitude, understanding the game ... BALLS ... - testing EVE around the clock as a fulltime-job and LISTEN to those. Could help to boost the dev of EVE in the right direction dramatically. It's worth the investment. Really! :-P
CCP said earlier in this thread that 1% of characters had more than 300 contacts. Say 2 chars average per account, 300k accounts, that makes 6000 out of 600,000 characters. How many people should CCP hire so every 1% section that uses a system to its extreme is represented? It's simply not possible and would halt the progress of the game. Can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs. And 1600 contacts? Come on! If you give each of them 10 minutes a month, you're spending 266 hours on social networking alone. That's 6.65 40-hour work week per month.
In general, if you have high-hundreds or thousands of contacts, you may be suffering from this.
Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.29 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Dr BattleSmith This should never have been released without labels to replace folders.
Any performance issues should have been looked at as part of this change rather then after the fact.
Complete, utter, unadulterated fail.
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Ekrid
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Posted - 2010.05.30 23:09:00 -
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Edited by: Ekrid on 30/05/2010 23:12:03 Edited by: Ekrid on 30/05/2010 23:10:51 not only that, but contacts is the only way to set standings, so you can only have 300 max enemies.
Originally by: Washell Olivaw me. Can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs. And 1600 contacts? Come on! If you give each of them 10 minutes a month, you're spending 266 hours on social networking alone. That's 6.65 40-hour work week per month.
In general, if you have high-hundreds or thousands of contacts, you may be suffering from this.
WTF? Im playing internet spaceships. if I want to play internet "social" networking, there's plenty of free alternatives. absolute garbage. I have a feelling alot of others feel the same way. Proponents will say "If you dont like it than dont use it". Yep, thats exactly what CCP thinks too. Making things people won't use, removing things people do use. Glorious.
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Gorion Wassenar
Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.05.31 00:14:00 -
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Keep in mind folks that its also counting every personal standing you have with NPC corps as well. Not meaning what your standing is with them from missioning and the like, I mean if you set the Guristas red for example. I thought I got under the 300 limit but was wrong lol. ----- *results may vary*
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Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2010.05.31 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Sisyphus When you login to evegate, in the top right hand side will be a link "profile settings".
Go there and see that there are 3 settings. The following pilots have the ability to see and post to my broadcast log: The following pilots have the ability to see my profile's full contacts list: The following pilots have the ability to see my profile's mutual contacts:
All of those can be set to a particular standing level, all, none, corp, or alliance. Also you can say have "good standings, AND members of my alliance and corp"
So you can say "anyone I add as a contact as neutral and above can see my broadcasts, but only excellent standings contacts can see my contacts" etc.
But I cant see a way of saying "Pilot X can see my contacts as a neutral contact, but other good and excellent contacts cannot see my contacts".
does that answer your question?
Bolded the important bit.
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/1451/contactsettings.png
I cannot set any of the three dropdowns to "My corp AND those I have flagged as +10". Do I have to needlessly set my corp and/or alliance to +10 and set it to contacts of excellent standings?
P.S. can I delete broadcasts from my contacts chatter or is that crap going to sit there forever? |
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RaWBLooD
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Posted - 2010.05.31 01:42:00 -
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Is there a way a GM can clear and erase all our contacts and standings? It's obvious the limit won't rise much past 500 for personal contacts.
It would take hours to indiscriminately remove everyone. It would take months to pick and choose who to keep. miners-you can: switch, rob, wardec, nerf, scam them, buy below market, pirate them on their way to sell. mining < trading, ratting, manufacturing from market bought minerals,they still wont go away |
Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.05.31 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Nadarius Chrome
Originally by: CCP Sisyphus When you login to evegate, in the top right hand side will be a link "profile settings".
Go there and see that there are 3 settings. The following pilots have the ability to see and post to my broadcast log: The following pilots have the ability to see my profile's full contacts list: The following pilots have the ability to see my profile's mutual contacts:
All of those can be set to a particular standing level, all, none, corp, or alliance. Also you can say have "good standings, AND members of my alliance and corp"
So you can say "anyone I add as a contact as neutral and above can see my broadcasts, but only excellent standings contacts can see my contacts" etc.
But I cant see a way of saying "Pilot X can see my contacts as a neutral contact, but other good and excellent contacts cannot see my contacts".
does that answer your question?
Bolded the important bit.
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/1451/contactsettings.png
I cannot set any of the three dropdowns to "My corp AND those I have flagged as +10". Do I have to needlessly set my corp and/or alliance to +10 and set it to contacts of excellent standings?
P.S. can I delete broadcasts from my contacts chatter or is that crap going to sit there forever?
Select one of the dropdowns. A second dropdown for the AND appears alongside. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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iooo666
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Posted - 2010.06.01 12:23:00 -
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I like adding new features but when good features disappear, i have to ask: when we will have only three ship in eve? small, middle and large.
Removing contact folders without deploying tags renders contacts completely unusable. And watch list? Before patch one was able use every folder as a specific watch list.
My well organized contacts transformed to scrap. I hope CCP deploys tags in short time to make contacts usable again.
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Los Lecrosis
Gallente Militant Mermen LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2010.06.01 18:12:00 -
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ok CCP,
300 or even 1000 is way too small a limit for this.
I suggest a 5000 limit on contacts and/or blocked list.
For alliances, how about even higher than that?
Los
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plastastic
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Posted - 2010.06.01 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Sisyphus Edited by: CCP Sisyphus on 26/05/2010 16:30:22
Originally by: Emperor Ryan Once again a thanks to CCP Sisyphus for replying on such short notice. Admitly i am happy that the majorty of the players would not be effected but such a 300 limit, So instead i'll change my direction for a moment and ask why?
I'm normally used to you guys at ccp changing things with some sort of explination, to be fair its your game we pay for the service but at the same time i think the player group would be intersted in knowing.
Simply put, we didn't actually change anything. It was in the code for a looong time (years?) that there was a 300 limit to standings for characters and corporations. We thought about changing it, looked at what would happen in the DB, and made a decision to leave it as is, pending examination of how it pans out on TQ.
We're also looking at expanding the label system to contacts, but have to do a lot more network optimisation and other backend work before that can be brought onto the "under work" table.
edit: oh forgot - the watchlist (online/offline notification) is not default for your contacts. You have to choose specifically to place people in your watchlist.
yes you did change it
you made it so EVERYONE in our buddy list now has individual standings and now lumped everyone we set standings for and everyone we befriended into one group
we were fine with setting only 300 people red or blue were not fine with setting 300 people red,blue or i may want to talk to you at some point
go back to the old system make it so folders work and add a right click move to this folder figure a way to make the old system work with eve gate rather then changing the whole thing and ****ing people off if you do change it dont lump two thing people like separate into one group forming a deformed mess that no one can use
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Deka Ekato
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Posted - 2010.06.01 23:55:00 -
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CCP,
We no longer have a Contact List. All we have now is a "Standings List".
CCP, please, give us back a Contact List and its ability to create custom folders.
And yes, please increase the limit of both the Contact and "Standings" List.
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Heimdallofasgard
Strategic Insanity
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Posted - 2010.06.02 00:49:00 -
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most of this thread... tl;dr
BUT read all the CCP dev comments... and they're ignoring the big issue here... CONTACT FOLDERS!!!
WE NEED THEM! they WEREN'T BROKEN...
I had 250 contacts sorted into about 7 different folders... I could quickly open up a folder of say 25 contacts... see which ones were online and decide if it was safe to go through a certain region of space... or mission in a particular low-sec system
WAR TARGET LISTS... when I want to see which war targets are online i need to look through people who have the same standings as them... (terrible) before I just opened up a folder with title: "CURRENT WAR TARGETS" and see who's there...
what if you're at war with a 300+ member corp?
also... I want people in my corp to see my updates on evegate... but they can only do so if i've added them as contacts and given them good standings? amirite?
tl;dr: I WANT MY FOLDERS BACK :( ------- I LIKE DEHYDRATED WATERRRR |
Overdriver
M'8'S
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Posted - 2010.06.17 23:25:00 -
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I agree with what others have stated regarding folders. Destroying the old address book and replacing it with the personal contacts has made the system almost useless in its current state.
But another important point is that the transaction logs (the note set when you change standings to an entity) have been removed. This means you have no way of remembering why you set standing to a certain corp or person. This can be for any number of reasons (friend, enemy corp, business contact) and many contacts should only remain for a limited amount of time. The transaction log helped with this as you had a note for yourself to remmeber why standing was set. And what is even worse is that this feature is now even removed for the corporate contacts. This means we are now expected to remember the reason for setting corporation standing to any other entity in the game. And there is not even a "Notes" tab on "Show info" of corporations. Standings without a reason will very quickly become a horrible mess of colours. It is a shame to remove such a useful feature and force players to create lists out of game. And such lists are not easily shared between directors like the transaction log was.
The 3 things I would most like to see are:
- Bring back the folder system (a label system sounds fine). This was the most important feature of the address book.
- Bring back the transaction log both for all types of contacts but especially for corporation contacts.
- Bring in a feature that I think would be very useful: Give us the option to decide whether a certain contact (who is in the watch list) should flash in the lower right corner with login/logout messages or not. Often enough I want someone in my watch list so I can manually check if they are online (wartargets, specific groups of friends, etc.) but I don't need a popup on my screen every time one of these many contacts log in/out.
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mechtech
SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2010.06.18 00:20:00 -
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I need folders in my contact list or else it's a giant mess.
That is all.
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Nerf Hoffelmier
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Posted - 2010.06.19 11:32:00 -
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300 is ridiculous 80% of players in this game need blocked and 98% need set red. Now I have to add you to my contacts to hate you that's just silly.
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Khorvek
Amarr Triple Threat Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.19 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: PyroTech03 What get's me is that also you can only set standing for someone that IS IN YOUR CONTACTS!!!
I set standings currently based off any transaction, deal, major interaction i make with a character. so wtf ccp? :/
this is exactly my problem with it ever single day. standings have to be in contacts. lame.
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