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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift Alliance1470696988
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Posted - 2010.05.27 01:27:00 -
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It appears that planets in the Pator system (Minmatar home system) are incorrect. Pator IV (Matar) is the homeworld, but has surface gravity of 3.7 m/s^2 (about 0.38g) and a nearly completely oceanic surface. Meanwhile, Pator III (Huggar) has a surface gravity of 9.6 m/s^2 and an appropriately varied surface.
Clearly, the data and texture assigned to Matar do not fit with the storyline description of this planet as the Minmatar homeworld, while Huggar has the appropriate data and texture.
I've reported this as bug #95849.
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Myxx
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.27 03:39:00 -
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intaki vi is now oceanic...
it being the homeworld of the intaki people... i assume this is a bug, as well?
or did they all massively move to planet 5?
Wtb information on this.
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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift Alliance1470696988
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Posted - 2010.05.27 04:06:00 -
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I believe Intaki V is the homeworld, isn't it?
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CCP Ginger
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Posted - 2010.05.27 10:09:00 -
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Please bug report these and I will promote them to get fixed as much as I can.
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CCP Dropbear
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Posted - 2010.05.27 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Casiella Truza I believe Intaki V is the homeworld, isn't it?
Yup.
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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente Moira. Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.05.27 17:36:00 -
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Mannar does not have any temperate worlds. Will bug report it til I find out what to put it under
@Casi - Never considered the planetary info to be of any use, but you're right about the textures
Also, some of the home systems have been plugged full of temperate planets. Luminaire has 4, New Caldari 3, Lirsautton like 5 or something...not sure if that's really realistic? Or makes sense them being settled systems firss before EVE gate shut. ------------ Luminaire General Seriphyn Inhonores [TAGMA] Federal Defence Union |
Carlani Hudson
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.27 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Ginger Please bug report these and I will promote them to get fixed as much as I can.
Where can we petition to have the Intaki system/homeworld declared a sanctuary like Jita or Oursulaert, please ?
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Myxx
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.27 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Carlani Hudson
Originally by: CCP Ginger Please bug report these and I will promote them to get fixed as much as I can.
Where can we petition to have the Intaki system/homeworld declared a sanctuary like Jita or Oursulaert, please ?
all capitals should be off limits amarr luminaire intaki saiso pator
etc
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CCP Dropbear
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Posted - 2010.05.27 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Dropbear on 27/05/2010 20:53:41
Originally by: Carlani Hudson
Originally by: CCP Ginger Please bug report these and I will promote them to get fixed as much as I can.
Where can we petition to have the Intaki system/homeworld declared a sanctuary like Jita or Oursulaert, please ?
Intaki V is on the "off limits" list already. Here's the list for reference.
Homeworlds and key systems:
Saisio III Intaki V Lirsautton III Mishi IV Arzad VIII New Caldari IV Luminaire VI, VII Amarr III Ardishapur Prime III Kor-Azor Prime IV Tash Murkon Prime III Khanid Prime I Pator IV Villore IV Palpis VI (Fedos have feelings too) Yulai III Taisy VIII (For obvious reasons) Serpentis Prime VI (Owned / Bought by the Sarpati family) Utopia III ()
Additionally, every corporation in-game has a planet set aside as part of "future proofing" for DUST 514. That isn't to say they'll definitely play a role; only that we thought it prudent for each Corporation to have a "planetside presence" just in case.
If there's any inconsistencies or oddities you guys notice, please make them known and we'll see what can be done.
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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente Moira. Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.05.27 21:00:00 -
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You missed out Mannar still. ------------ Luminaire General Seriphyn Inhonores [TAGMA] Federal Defence Union |
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Rainus Max
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.27 23:02:00 -
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Quote: Utopia III ()
Hmm dont get that one....
What about the long limb roe planet? its not fair fedo's get a safe world
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Vieve Tisserand
Gallente Meliae Consortium
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Posted - 2010.05.27 23:57:00 -
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Ealur's only temperate planet (not looking at that system right now, but I know there's one there) doesn't get list love? Bet the Ealurians would be as ****ed as the Mannar might be right now, if they weren't already gorbled up by the Amarr. ;)
Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores Also, Villore IV is all brown and polluted, if it's the Federation's capital world.
Er, did Villore I get changed from being temperate, too? Crap. I need to go look at it (and what happened to Mies, if anything).
Could buy that Villore IV's a desert world. In fact, I should, 'cause it'd suit the fiction I've written quite nicely -- so which of you CCP guys do I need to bake cookies for? |
Myxx
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.28 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Rainus Max
Quote: Utopia III ()
Hmm dont get that one....
What about the long limb roe planet? its not fair fedo's get a safe world
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Utopia_(System)
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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift Alliance1470696988
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Posted - 2010.05.28 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: Casiella Truza on 28/05/2010 00:49:02 Pator IV isn't actually off-limits, you know. But all of Rens (and Jita, I suppose) is.
Also, hrm. Hints as to Jovian/Angel connections?
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Kathryn Dougans
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.05.28 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dropbear
If there's any inconsistencies or oddities you guys notice, please make them known and we'll see what can be done.
Syrikos V
Home of slaver hounds
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Elaine Shandrate
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Posted - 2010.05.29 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dropbear
If there's any inconsistencies or oddities you guys notice, please make them known and we'll see what can be done.
According to this news item the bones were buried in a cathedral, assuming these are build on planets, which planet was it build on?
I do hope it was on one of the temperate planets V or VI, which both do not have any space station floating around... |
Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.05.30 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores not sure if that's really realistic? Or makes sense them being settled systems firss before EVE gate shut.
It does considering terraformation technology exist.
Hi-Sec systems should have a significant percentage of Temperate worlds compared to low-/null- sec. Presumably hi-sec systems have been inhabited for multiple generations and thus could have undergone significant terraformation.
This could transform a Barren or Ice world into a "Temperate" one in some amount of time. With Modern, 21st Century Earth tech the estimates for taking a relatively barren world like Mars to supporting large non-oxygen burning ecosystems is a matter of 100s of years.
In Eve, Caldari Prime wasn't always a Temperate world for example.
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Geldar Wroontik
Gallente Galactic System Lords Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.30 12:44:00 -
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On the note of off-limits planets, should I be blocked from scanning the planets in that list posted? Because I can scan both Gallente Prime and Caldari Prime, whereas planets in Dodixie or Oursulaert don't let me go into Planet Mode at all.
Also is it intended that New Eden I will be available to be mined? ----- Blasters: enough Ammunition: plenty Bubblegum: none |
X1994
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.30 17:00:00 -
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New Eden I definitely shouldn't be mineable. Also, Tanoo I or II (don't know which of these is the Ammatar capital) is missing from that list.
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Julianus Soter
Gallente Moira. Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.05.30 18:52:00 -
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I realize it's not going to be a high priority, but the planetary types for all those worlds mentioned in the Ishaeka Report 01 are now wrong because of the planet update.
Should those planets also be put off-limits?
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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente Moira. Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.05.30 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Seriphyn Inhonores on 30/05/2010 19:06:58 Other than Mannar and Intaki IV that need to be fixed, I might recommend Mercury review all the systems that were attacked and make sure the temperate planets are correct. Vylade no longer has a temperate planet for example, as does Ostingele...and Renyn too, which contradicts Chasing Shadows.
In addition, the Ishaeka worlds are messed up too. ------------ Luminaire General Seriphyn Inhonores [TAGMA] Federal Defence Union |
Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.30 19:07:00 -
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Planet 3 in the Villore System is right now a "Storm World" It does not exactly match the description the Book "The Empyrean Age, Chapter 28". In the book the planet "Moroses" is described as barren but in the early stages of terraforming by the Federation.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift New Eden Research.
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Posted - 2010.05.30 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores Edited by: Seriphyn Inhonores on 30/05/2010 19:06:58 Other than Mannar and Intaki IV that need to be fixed, I might recommend Mercury review all the systems that were attacked and make sure the temperate planets are correct. Vylade no longer has a temperate planet for example, as does Ostingele...and Renyn too, which contradicts Chasing Shadows.
In addition, the Ishaeka worlds are messed up too.
While I agree that they need a review, the fact that human colonies exist on a planet doesn't necessarily imply they have to be "Temperate", per se. We have lots of SFnal examples, including in EVE fiction, of other types of worlds that play host to humanity.
"Life finds a way..."
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Alain Colcer
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2010.05.30 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Casiella Truza While I agree that they need a review, the fact that human colonies exist on a planet doesn't necessarily imply they have to be "Temperate", per se. We have lots of SFnal examples, including in EVE fiction, of other types of worlds that play host to humanity.
Mannar is the homeworld of one the member-civilizations of the Federation, all across prime-fiction it was described that Gallente, Intaki and Mannar were the current members of the Federation by year YC105. They were also "found" during the Gallentean expansion according to timeline.
So their homeworld must be temperate.
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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift New Eden Research.
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Posted - 2010.06.02 02:56:00 -
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In some cases like Mannar, sure. But I'm responding to the contention that all planets with population centers (such as Seri's mention of those attacked by the Sansha) must be temperate.
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CCP Dropbear
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Posted - 2010.06.30 15:11:00 -
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Unfortunately I have to retract everything I said earlier. There was some miscommunication between the the Content team and the guys in Iceland, and we weren't aware about the final decisions that were made on this matter. End result is that I gave you guys incorrect information about what planets will and won't be set off limits.
The final list of planets only factors in engineering concerns: meaning trade hubs are the only systems that have planets off-limits. Jita, Amarr, and so on, but not Luminaire, New Caldari or Pator.
Apologies for the mis-step guys, I thought we had final information but it turns out we didn't.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.30 16:45:00 -
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So this is finally the confirmation that the responsible guys do not care about the content of their game from a lore point of view?
I always expected as much, but it still disheartening to have the confirmation.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Nikita Alterana
Gallente Risen Angels
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Posted - 2010.06.30 16:55:00 -
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this sets a really bad precedent and tone for the universe. It says that the feature devs don't care about the storyline, and only care about the bottom line.
this makes me a sad panda.
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Myxx
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.30 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: Myxx on 30/06/2010 16:58:24
Originally by: Deviana Sevidon So this is finally the confirmation that the responsible guys do not care about the content of their game from a lore point of view?
I always expected as much, but it still disheartening to have the confirmation.
^^^^^
Originally by: Nikita Alterana this sets a really bad precedent and tone for the universe. It says that the feature devs don't care about the storyline, and only care about the bottom line.
this makes me a sad panda.
That, too.
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CCP Dropbear
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Posted - 2010.06.30 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon So this is finally the confirmation that the responsible guys do not care about the content of their game from a lore point of view?
I always expected as much, but it still disheartening to have the confirmation.
All I can do is humbly ask that you please don't see it that way. There's nobody in CCP who "doesn't care" about the storyline of EVE. Nobody. It's a mistake to think that just because A takes priority over B in a given situation, that it's because people don't care about B. Honestly, it couldn't be further from the truth and much back and forth and agonizing was done about how to try and accommodate all sides for PI. The fact that I got the information wrong is actually a by-product of just how much this was being discussed internally, and just how seriously we took it all. This is because all sides are valued and cared deeply about, including storyline and IP.
And hey, those same "responsible guys" you mention practically built the storyline of EVE in its early days! If you want confirmation of that, go check out some May '03 roleplay articles and onwards, and look at the names of authors. So many of those early live events that built the core of EVE's storyline were also driven by these same people. The guys at the helm have a passion and respect for our storyline, so please don't lose hope in that regard or read too much into the decisions taken over a single matter.
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