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Jaina Proudmoar
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Posted - 2010.05.29 16:53:00 -
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We all know that the EVE Online forums have a troll problem, and it is clearly a waste of CCP's resources to have to moderate it.
I propose that we employ some sort of user-based moderation system to filter out abusive comments, similar to Slashdot. For those who are not in the know, every comment is initially given a score of -1 to +2, with a default score of +1 for registered accounts, 0 for trial accounts, +2 for users with high "karma", or -1 for users with low "karma". As moderators read the comments attached to a thread, they click to moderate the comment, either up (+1) or down (-1).
Moderators may also choose to attach a particular descriptor to the comments as well, such as normal, offtopic, flamebait, troll, redundant, insightful, interesting, informative, funny, overrated, or underrated, with each corresponding to a -1 or +1 rating. So a comment may be seen to have a rating of "+1 insightful" or "+1 troll".
Moderation points add to a user's karma, and users with high "karma" are eligible to become moderators themselves. We could use a system which does not promote regular users as "moderators" and instead assigns five moderation points at a time to users based on the number of comments they have entered in the system û once a user's moderation points are used up, they can no longer moderate articles (though they can be assigned more moderation points at a later date). CCP staff members would have an unlimited number of moderation points.
What do you all think? (+1 Insightful maybe?)
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Kraundewr
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Posted - 2010.05.29 16:54:00 -
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+1
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.29 16:54:00 -
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Wait here, I'm going to go find something to strike you with (in game)
Originally by: a51 duke1406 The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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The Crushah
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.05.29 16:55:00 -
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You sound fat.
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Hertford
Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.05.29 16:55:00 -
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-1 discussing moderation is not allowed. |
Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.05.29 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jaina Proudmoar We all know that the EVE Online forums have a troll problem, and it is clearly a waste of CCP's resources to have to moderate it.
I propose that we employ some sort of user-based moderation system to filter out abusive comments, similar to Slashdot. For those who are not in the know, every comment is initially given a score of -1 to +2, with a default score of +1 for registered accounts, 0 for trial accounts, +2 for users with high "karma", or -1 for users with low "karma". As moderators read the comments attached to a thread, they click to moderate the comment, either up (+1) or down (-1).
Moderators may also choose to attach a particular descriptor to the comments as well, such as normal, offtopic, flamebait, troll, redundant, insightful, interesting, informative, funny, overrated, or underrated, with each corresponding to a -1 or +1 rating. So a comment may be seen to have a rating of "+1 insightful" or "+1 troll".
Moderation points add to a user's karma, and users with high "karma" are eligible to become moderators themselves. We could use a system which does not promote regular users as "moderators" and instead assigns five moderation points at a time to users based on the number of comments they have entered in the system û once a user's moderation points are used up, they can no longer moderate articles (though they can be assigned more moderation points at a later date). CCP staff members would have an unlimited number of moderation points.
What do you all think? (+1 Insightful maybe?)
That's awesome until an alliance decides they don't like you and spams you into forum oblivion. -
Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. |
Zeredek
Gallente Vanguard Venture
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Posted - 2010.05.29 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jaina Proudmoar
Your name is from Warcraft
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist CONCORD scrambles, Pod Pilots Scramble, but Faction Navy captains can't squeeze a warp scrambler with the Quafe and cookie dispensing mid-slot modules.
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Cleric JohnPreston
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Posted - 2010.05.29 16:56:00 -
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Its a good idea in theory but people abuse these Karma systems too negaitvely rating players for the pettiest of things.
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Jaina Proudmoar
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Posted - 2010.05.29 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Jaina Proudmoar We all know that the EVE Online forums have a troll problem, and it is clearly a waste of CCP's resources to have to moderate it.
I propose that we employ some sort of user-based moderation system to filter out abusive comments, similar to Slashdot. For those who are not in the know, every comment is initially given a score of -1 to +2, with a default score of +1 for registered accounts, 0 for trial accounts, +2 for users with high "karma", or -1 for users with low "karma". As moderators read the comments attached to a thread, they click to moderate the comment, either up (+1) or down (-1).
Moderators may also choose to attach a particular descriptor to the comments as well, such as normal, offtopic, flamebait, troll, redundant, insightful, interesting, informative, funny, overrated, or underrated, with each corresponding to a -1 or +1 rating. So a comment may be seen to have a rating of "+1 insightful" or "+1 troll".
Moderation points add to a user's karma, and users with high "karma" are eligible to become moderators themselves. We could use a system which does not promote regular users as "moderators" and instead assigns five moderation points at a time to users based on the number of comments they have entered in the system û once a user's moderation points are used up, they can no longer moderate articles (though they can be assigned more moderation points at a later date). CCP staff members would have an unlimited number of moderation points.
What do you all think? (+1 Insightful maybe?)
That's awesome until an alliance decides they don't like you and spams you into forum oblivion.
Moderators are chosen at random to prevent this.
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Pennwisedom
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2010.05.29 17:03:00 -
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Yet I see this thread
Perhaps you should take your own advice first.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1326895
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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.05.29 17:07:00 -
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I'd -1 all the good posts and +2 the trolls, just for the lulz.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.05.29 17:08:00 -
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Yeah, no.
I've seen that kind of mechanism on other game forums, and it just doesn't work. It becomes political in roughly zero seconds and then the whole point of it is lost.
It only increases the moderator workload without actually improving anything that couldn't be handled by simply calling on the moderators directly. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Musical Fist
Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.29 17:10:00 -
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/supported
I never liked Jaina in wow and I wont like her in eve, I also dont like NC or SC so they will get -1 on all they comments
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Jaina Proudmoar
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Posted - 2010.05.29 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: omgfreemoniez I'd -1 all the good posts and +2 the trolls, just for the lulz.
Trolls are +1 in my system.
Think how boring forums would be if everyone just agreed with each other.
Trolls should always be modded up +1 to promote a healthy forum ecosystem and to stimulate healthy debate and discussion over serious issues.
Respect biodiversity!
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.29 17:14:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion to Features & Ideas.
I will add that this is highly unlikely to happen but that does not mean you can't discuss it
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.05.29 17:14:00 -
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If I understand this correctly you want to a Digg Up / Bury feature in the forums. Might not be bad.
Apply | CBSN Lounge
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Jaina Proudmoar
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Posted - 2010.05.29 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator
I will add that this is highly unlikely to happen but that does not mean you can't discuss it
+1 Flamebait. :)
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Feilamya
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Posted - 2010.05.29 17:19:00 -
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After a couple of weeks this forum would be full of karma -10 trolls claiming you are not a real troll if your karma is above -5.
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Ti'anla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.29 17:37:00 -
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I'd support this one, though the forums are on death row as it is already. 'Read somewhere a while back the EVE Gate will eventually just swallow them.
Still, one way or another, the troll problem is getting bloody stupid, so this idea - mayhap with some anti-abuse elements - seems as good a suggestion as any.
Me, I'm more in favour of less lenient anti-troll policies from the moderators, I guess. The Escapist's forums seem to have a nice way of dealing with that sort of thing.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.05.29 17:48:00 -
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Basically we need a forum script that wouldn't have been embarrassing in 1998. The lack of forum features (like NOT having to log in every 2-3 minutes ffs) is just... amazing.
I've held off on saying much about it because I'd assumed that CCP were going to rework the forums LIKE THEY PROMISED US REPEATEDLY OVER THE YEARS THAT THEY WOULD with the launch of EVEgate. But: they didn't.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.05.29 18:48:00 -
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Add ability to block/ignore individuals and corporations/alliances. There was a script for Firefox that did that, called monkey something .. worked like a charm.
If the lame social media crap with +1/-1 was to be implemented you'd see hate campaigns between the null-sec numb-skulls left and right, thanks but no thanks. The ingrates have more than enough outlets for their anti-social urges within the game, no point in letting it take over the forums more than it has.
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Jaina Proudmoar
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Posted - 2010.05.30 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Add ability to block/ignore individuals and corporations/alliances. There was a script for Firefox that did that, called monkey something .. worked like a charm.
Are you thinking of a script for Greasemonkey?
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2010.05.30 11:21:00 -
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how would we be able to troll threads which deserve nothing but trolling? All the salvage and cloaking whinage threads for example?
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Torothanax
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Posted - 2010.05.30 12:56:00 -
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Even with people like this ---^ on the forum, it's a bad idea. There are reasons for a representative government rather then a straight out democracy. Mob mentality being a big part of it. No we don't elect the moderators here, but at least they are usually resposible with thier power. Most people wouldn't be.
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Jaina Proudmoar
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Posted - 2010.06.02 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Caldera -1
how would we be able to troll threads which deserve nothing but trolling? All the salvage and cloaking whinage threads for example?
Mod them down?
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Jaina Proudmoar
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Posted - 2010.06.11 00:08:00 -
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BUMP
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Kyusoath Orillian
Haters Gonna Hate
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Posted - 2010.06.11 00:23:00 -
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sage
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z0de
The Bastards The Tusker Bastards
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Posted - 2010.06.11 02:23:00 -
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No you can't be a mod. á á
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Gavjack Bunk
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Posted - 2010.06.11 10:25:00 -
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IN B4 404!!!!!
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Cryptkiller
Minmatar Ebola Allstars
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Posted - 2010.06.12 11:13:00 -
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Confirming the OP is Nooma K'Larr's alt.
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