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MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.12.09 13:21:00 - [91] tamora broke page 2 My vids and random stuff
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.12.09 13:21:00 - [92] tamora broke page 2 My vids and random stuff
Asmodia	Posted - 2004.12.09 13:22:00 - [93] nope, OC joined the CA with this claims, same as FE did. RSA was connected with FE via Hupa and former members of Biomass Cartel. RSA had Zombies Inc as fighters and they were total enemies of CA. ------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------
Asmodia	Posted - 2004.12.09 13:22:00 - [94] nope, OC joined the CA with this claims, same as FE did. RSA was connected with FE via Hupa and former members of Biomass Cartel. RSA had Zombies Inc as fighters and they were total enemies of CA. ------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------
Shadowthrone	Posted - 2004.12.09 13:24:00 - [95] Originally by: Asmodia nope, OC joined the CA with this claims, same as FE did. RSA was connected with FE via Hupa and former members of Biomass Cartel. RSA had Zombies Inc as fighters and they were total enemies of CA. Zombies were never part of the RSA. U might be getting confused with the tundragons. Celes Kill Board "Show them no mercy, for you will receive none"
Shadowthrone	Posted - 2004.12.09 13:24:00 - [96] Originally by: Asmodia nope, OC joined the CA with this claims, same as FE did. RSA was connected with FE via Hupa and former members of Biomass Cartel. RSA had Zombies Inc as fighters and they were total enemies of CA. Zombies were never part of the RSA. U might be getting confused with the tundragons. Celes Kill Board "Show them no mercy, for you will receive none"
Lord Drax	Posted - 2004.12.09 13:34:00 - [97] Originally by: Sternburg Export And everytime u scanned the cargo before u shoot the people U shoot everyone who wasn¦t "blue" and thats... call it how u want... Piracy... I've flown in combat with Ota corps, then OC, and now Supremacy in the CA for over a year now, and I have never once seen anyone in gang scan peoples cargo's before shooting them. Infact i dont know of a single supremacy pilot who even HAS a scanner, let alone uses it. I guess you let all unknowns fly around your space unharmed then..... -----------------------------------------
Lord Drax	Posted - 2004.12.09 13:34:00 - [98] Originally by: Sternburg Export And everytime u scanned the cargo before u shoot the people U shoot everyone who wasn¦t "blue" and thats... call it how u want... Piracy... I've flown in combat with Ota corps, then OC, and now Supremacy in the CA for over a year now, and I have never once seen anyone in gang scan peoples cargo's before shooting them. Infact i dont know of a single supremacy pilot who even HAS a scanner, let alone uses it. I guess you let all unknowns fly around your space unharmed then..... -----------------------------------------
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.12.09 13:46:00 - [99] Originally by: Lord Drax Originally by: Sternburg Export And everytime u scanned the cargo before u shoot the people U shoot everyone who wasn¦t "blue" and thats... call it how u want... Piracy... I've flown in combat with Ota corps, then OC, and now Supremacy in the CA for over a year now, and I have never once seen anyone in gang scan peoples cargo's before shooting them. Infact i dont know of a single supremacy pilot who even HAS a scanner, let alone uses it. I guess you let all unknowns fly around your space unharmed then..... Thx. A2 and Delve/querious was never CA territory.. :) U said u never scanned any cargoholds.. But u said: Quote: we were cutting off their Empire supply routes u¦ve had war with CFS and FA... u never declared war agianst StA and all other people who ONLY lived their.. but u shoot them without prove their Cargoholds.. Without being threatened by them... And thats what i call Piracy.. No more and no less... 0.0 or not.. Quote: I guess you let all unknowns fly around your space unharmed then..... Yes we respected The CFS rules, while the time in Delve.. we shoot PK¦s and pirates... No one ever fired a single shot at inocent peeps or ppl who went through this area :) ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.12.09 13:46:00 - [100] Originally by: Lord Drax Originally by: Sternburg Export And everytime u scanned the cargo before u shoot the people U shoot everyone who wasn¦t "blue" and thats... call it how u want... Piracy... I've flown in combat with Ota corps, then OC, and now Supremacy in the CA for over a year now, and I have never once seen anyone in gang scan peoples cargo's before shooting them. Infact i dont know of a single supremacy pilot who even HAS a scanner, let alone uses it. I guess you let all unknowns fly around your space unharmed then..... Thx. A2 and Delve/querious was never CA territory.. :) U said u never scanned any cargoholds.. But u said: Quote: we were cutting off their Empire supply routes u¦ve had war with CFS and FA... u never declared war agianst StA and all other people who ONLY lived their.. but u shoot them without prove their Cargoholds.. Without being threatened by them... And thats what i call Piracy.. No more and no less... 0.0 or not.. Quote: I guess you let all unknowns fly around your space unharmed then..... Yes we respected The CFS rules, while the time in Delve.. we shoot PK¦s and pirates... No one ever fired a single shot at inocent peeps or ppl who went through this area :) ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
corporal hicks	Posted - 2004.12.09 13:47:00 - [101] Originally by: Lord Drax Originally by: Sternburg Export And everytime u scanned the cargo before u shoot the people U shoot everyone who wasn¦t "blue" and thats... call it how u want... Piracy... I've flown in combat with Ota corps, then OC, and now Supremacy in the CA for over a year now, and I have never once seen anyone in gang scan peoples cargo's before shooting them. Infact i dont know of a single supremacy pilot who even HAS a scanner, let alone uses it. I guess you let all unknowns fly around your space unharmed then..... Here it comes the justifications for killing anyone anywhere anytime and in anyone else's space.... " Stay Frosty "
corporal hicks	Posted - 2004.12.09 13:47:00 - [102] Originally by: Lord Drax Originally by: Sternburg Export And everytime u scanned the cargo before u shoot the people U shoot everyone who wasn¦t "blue" and thats... call it how u want... Piracy... I've flown in combat with Ota corps, then OC, and now Supremacy in the CA for over a year now, and I have never once seen anyone in gang scan peoples cargo's before shooting them. Infact i dont know of a single supremacy pilot who even HAS a scanner, let alone uses it. I guess you let all unknowns fly around your space unharmed then..... Here it comes the justifications for killing anyone anywhere anytime and in anyone else's space.... " Stay Frosty "
Asmodia	Posted - 2004.12.09 14:00:00 - [103] Originally by: Shadowthrone Originally by: Asmodia nope, OC joined the CA with this claims, same as FE did. RSA was connected with FE via Hupa and former members of Biomass Cartel. RSA had Zombies Inc as fighters and they were total enemies of CA. Zombies were never part of the RSA. U might be getting confused with the tundragons. They fought with TunDraGon and some other pirates for RSA. Ask NORAD. They were part of the Cloud ring campain, that for sure. ------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------
Asmodia	Posted - 2004.12.09 14:00:00 - [104] Originally by: Shadowthrone Originally by: Asmodia nope, OC joined the CA with this claims, same as FE did. RSA was connected with FE via Hupa and former members of Biomass Cartel. RSA had Zombies Inc as fighters and they were total enemies of CA. Zombies were never part of the RSA. U might be getting confused with the tundragons. They fought with TunDraGon and some other pirates for RSA. Ask NORAD. They were part of the Cloud ring campain, that for sure. ------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------
Jazz Bo	Posted - 2004.12.09 14:41:00 - [105] Originally by: Asmodia (and terrorist like CELES). Correction. We are cowardly, safespotting, ganking, communist terrorist carebear pirates. Please get it right next time. Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
Jazz Bo	Posted - 2004.12.09 14:41:00 - [106] Originally by: Asmodia (and terrorist like CELES). Correction. We are cowardly, safespotting, ganking, communist terrorist carebear pirates. Please get it right next time. Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
Lord Drax	Posted - 2004.12.09 14:47:00 - [107] Originally by: corporal hicks Here it comes the justifications for killing anyone anywhere anytime and in anyone else's space.... well, put it like this, we kill people in a2 as they are friendly with our enemies, the people who use the stations in that area contribute to our enemies wallets, if we make it harder for people to go there we damage our enemies economy. We dont do it for "personal" gain, we do it for the detriment of our enemies. If you want to call it piracy its up to you, i cant force you to change your mind about that. From our viewpoint it is striking a blow to our enemies, not purely killing people because we can. If we did do it because we can you'd find us killing innocents in empire too. That is a thing that Supremacy will never do, hence in our view we are NOT pirates. I am just trying to justify our viewpoint, and if you dont agree then you dont agree. -----------------------------------------
Lord Drax	Posted - 2004.12.09 14:47:00 - [108] Originally by: corporal hicks Here it comes the justifications for killing anyone anywhere anytime and in anyone else's space.... well, put it like this, we kill people in a2 as they are friendly with our enemies, the people who use the stations in that area contribute to our enemies wallets, if we make it harder for people to go there we damage our enemies economy. We dont do it for "personal" gain, we do it for the detriment of our enemies. If you want to call it piracy its up to you, i cant force you to change your mind about that. From our viewpoint it is striking a blow to our enemies, not purely killing people because we can. If we did do it because we can you'd find us killing innocents in empire too. That is a thing that Supremacy will never do, hence in our view we are NOT pirates. I am just trying to justify our viewpoint, and if you dont agree then you dont agree. -----------------------------------------
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2004.12.09 16:00:00 - [109] Quote: 1) What is your definition of "pirate?" Please be as specific as you can. Its a difficult question. On the one hand: anyone who claims ownership of freespace and shoots anyone not in their colours is pretty much a criminal anyhow. I don't see any real difference between gate campers and land-grabbing alliances except in the small print. But whether that makes you pirates? I don't really know, I think the term pirate has become a bit meaningless outside of just a few proper pirate corps that roleplay the role and actually try to tax and rob rather than just gank. Quote: 2) From your own personal experiences with CA pilots INGAME would they fit your definition of a pirate? Again please be as specific as you can as to why or why not. Not really. To my mind Jexter and Fist are the achetypal pirates and they are playing a totally different game from the big alliances and the CA. So what do I think the CA actually are? Well, closest definition would be a large and unruly confederation of criminal roadblockers hording gasoline or something. Maybe the guys from Mad Max2? I dunno. Problem is with the definition. People have tried to stretch the word "pirate" to accomodate (as Jo says) "anyone who shoots you and anyone you want to shoot". And if you stretch something that far it just breaks. Hell, we've (JF) have been called "pirates" before now for slipping past alliance border guards and "trading" with npc stations in "their territory". That must have really hurt their pride! Star Fraction
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2004.12.09 16:00:00 - [110] Quote: 1) What is your definition of "pirate?" Please be as specific as you can. Its a difficult question. On the one hand: anyone who claims ownership of freespace and shoots anyone not in their colours is pretty much a criminal anyhow. I don't see any real difference between gate campers and land-grabbing alliances except in the small print. But whether that makes you pirates? I don't really know, I think the term pirate has become a bit meaningless outside of just a few proper pirate corps that roleplay the role and actually try to tax and rob rather than just gank. Quote: 2) From your own personal experiences with CA pilots INGAME would they fit your definition of a pirate? Again please be as specific as you can as to why or why not. Not really. To my mind Jexter and Fist are the achetypal pirates and they are playing a totally different game from the big alliances and the CA. So what do I think the CA actually are? Well, closest definition would be a large and unruly confederation of criminal roadblockers hording gasoline or something. Maybe the guys from Mad Max2? I dunno. Problem is with the definition. People have tried to stretch the word "pirate" to accomodate (as Jo says) "anyone who shoots you and anyone you want to shoot". And if you stretch something that far it just breaks. Hell, we've (JF) have been called "pirates" before now for slipping past alliance border guards and "trading" with npc stations in "their territory". That must have really hurt their pride! Star Fraction
Framlino	Posted - 2004.12.09 16:37:00 - [111] Originally by: Sternburg Export And everytime u scanned the cargo before u shoot the people [:roll: U shoot everyone who wasn¦t "blue" and thats... call it how u want... Piracy... look at this scenario: Gate activation Lock Ship Start Scanner Oh dear he has insta jumped to the next gate . If they are in contested space they are a legitimate target end of story
Framlino	Posted - 2004.12.09 16:37:00 - [112] Originally by: Sternburg Export And everytime u scanned the cargo before u shoot the people [:roll: U shoot everyone who wasn¦t "blue" and thats... call it how u want... Piracy... look at this scenario: Gate activation Lock Ship Start Scanner Oh dear he has insta jumped to the next gate . If they are in contested space they are a legitimate target end of story
Archain	Posted - 2004.12.09 16:41:00 - [113] Space Invaders and Zombie Inc 4 teh winz. Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD]
Archain	Posted - 2004.12.09 16:41:00 - [114] Space Invaders and Zombie Inc 4 teh winz. Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD]
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.12.09 16:43:00 - [115] Originally by: Framlino Originally by: Sternburg Export And everytime u scanned the cargo before u shoot the people [:roll: U shoot everyone who wasn¦t "blue" and thats... call it how u want... Piracy... look at this scenario: Gate activation Lock Ship Start Scanner Oh dear he has insta jumped to the next gate . If they are in contested space they are a legitimate target end of story Alt post get some balls and post with ur main Just to say it clear... i don¦t expect to get Scanned r something like that... I just wanted to say: CA shoot at everyone who wasn¦t blue... they don¦t ask for tier intensions.. and thats what i call piracy :) ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.12.09 16:43:00 - [116] Originally by: Framlino Originally by: Sternburg Export And everytime u scanned the cargo before u shoot the people [:roll: U shoot everyone who wasn¦t "blue" and thats... call it how u want... Piracy... look at this scenario: Gate activation Lock Ship Start Scanner Oh dear he has insta jumped to the next gate . If they are in contested space they are a legitimate target end of story Alt post get some balls and post with ur main Just to say it clear... i don¦t expect to get Scanned r something like that... I just wanted to say: CA shoot at everyone who wasn¦t blue... they don¦t ask for tier intensions.. and thats what i call piracy :) ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2004.12.09 16:48:00 - [117] Quote: I just wanted to say: CA shoot at everyone who wasn¦t blue... they don¦t ask for tier intensions.. and thats what i call piracy :) get some balls and post with ur main Thats part of the problem though mr Export. That "isn't" piracy. Not by any sensible definition. Piracy is moving around, staying clear of the organised fleets. Picking likely targets. Moving in to web and scramble. Then maybe offering the victim terms to live, maybe just demanding the cargo. Then taking the loot and cash and scarpering. Some corps do it. Now thats Piracy. Shooting everything no blue is just either a war-tactic or general rage-against-the-world angsty mayhem. I really dislike it when people mix up the two. Star Fraction
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2004.12.09 16:48:00 - [118] Quote: I just wanted to say: CA shoot at everyone who wasn¦t blue... they don¦t ask for tier intensions.. and thats what i call piracy :) get some balls and post with ur main Thats part of the problem though mr Export. That "isn't" piracy. Not by any sensible definition. Piracy is moving around, staying clear of the organised fleets. Picking likely targets. Moving in to web and scramble. Then maybe offering the victim terms to live, maybe just demanding the cargo. Then taking the loot and cash and scarpering. Some corps do it. Now thats Piracy. Shooting everything no blue is just either a war-tactic or general rage-against-the-world angsty mayhem. I really dislike it when people mix up the two. Star Fraction
Marcus Grisbius	Posted - 2004.12.09 16:52:00 - [119] Originally by: corporal hicks Originally by: Lord Drax Originally by: Sternburg Export And everytime u scanned the cargo before u shoot the people U shoot everyone who wasn¦t "blue" and thats... call it how u want... Piracy... I've flown in combat with Ota corps, then OC, and now Supremacy in the CA for over a year now, and I have never once seen anyone in gang scan peoples cargo's before shooting them. Infact i dont know of a single supremacy pilot who even HAS a scanner, let alone uses it. I guess you let all unknowns fly around your space unharmed then..... Here it comes the justifications for killing anyone anywhere anytime and in anyone else's space.... I guess CA must claim ALL of the eve regions then (although they don't show up on the map as a sovereignty ANYWHERE, go figure). CA members have fired on all sorts of ships in 0.0, whether it was space claimed by them or not. They've even shot at people to loot, plunder, and make fun of people in empire space. My analysis of the original question: By an real world definition, piracy isnt a feasible possibility in the game anymore. So instead of being called pirates, they should be called murderers and psychopaths. But since it is a game, and that's a bit harsh most people refer to them as pirates. And yes, CA fit that bill. Certainty of death... little chance of success... what are we waiting for? - Gimli, son of Gloinn
Marcus Grisbius	Posted - 2004.12.09 16:52:00 - [120] Originally by: corporal hicks Originally by: Lord Drax Originally by: Sternburg Export And everytime u scanned the cargo before u shoot the people U shoot everyone who wasn¦t "blue" and thats... call it how u want... Piracy... I've flown in combat with Ota corps, then OC, and now Supremacy in the CA for over a year now, and I have never once seen anyone in gang scan peoples cargo's before shooting them. Infact i dont know of a single supremacy pilot who even HAS a scanner, let alone uses it. I guess you let all unknowns fly around your space unharmed then..... Here it comes the justifications for killing anyone anywhere anytime and in anyone else's space.... I guess CA must claim ALL of the eve regions then (although they don't show up on the map as a sovereignty ANYWHERE, go figure). CA members have fired on all sorts of ships in 0.0, whether it was space claimed by them or not. They've even shot at people to loot, plunder, and make fun of people in empire space. My analysis of the original question: By an real world definition, piracy isnt a feasible possibility in the game anymore. So instead of being called pirates, they should be called murderers and psychopaths. But since it is a game, and that's a bit harsh most people refer to them as pirates. And yes, CA fit that bill. Certainty of death... little chance of success... what are we waiting for? - Gimli, son of Gloinn

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