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Mya ElleTerego
Amarr The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.05.31 04:10:00 -
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Edited by: Mya ElleTerego on 31/05/2010 04:15:30 Once upon a time back in n-rael RA would use sniper pests all day long to kill dudes on the konora gate. We figured out a great solution to it and spent all afternoon one night in US TZ anchoring Giant secure cans 200k off the gate in a grid. It came to about 60-70 GSC. Morning rolls around, RA sees our cans and gets ****ed, and petitions for CCP to look at it. Mind you this wasnt to cause lag back then 50 BS fighting each other caused lag it was like 2005. This was so we didnt have to probe thier sniper spots with intys.
TLDR 2005, CCP came in, killed every single can even a couple that were there forever lol. And then left, and told us not to do that ever again or well get temp banned cause it causes lag and its against the rules.
So I wouldnt say this is totally new, but it is messed up. More than a few people have used lag to thier advantage, where do you draw the line, who do you help, who do you spank?
This is eve FFS, where scammers, exploiters, cheaters, thieves, spys are welcomed with open arms and dubbed heroes by half the player base.
My opinion is you change the game mechanic if it can be used as an exploit dont punish creative, albeit shameless players. Alliance Recruit thread Alliance Homepage/Killboard |
Cynthia Ysolde
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.31 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mya ElleTerego Edited by: Mya ElleTerego on 31/05/2010 04:15:30 Once upon a time back in n-rael RA would use sniper pests all day long to kill dudes on the konora gate. We figured out a great solution to it and spent all afternoon one night in US TZ anchoring Giant secure cans 200k off the gate in a grid. It came to about 60-70 GSC. Morning rolls around, RA sees our cans and gets ****ed, and petitions for CCP to look at it. Mind you this wasnt to cause lag back then 50 BS fighting each other caused lag it was like 2005. This was so we didnt have to probe thier sniper spots with intys.
TLDR 2005, CCP came in, killed every single can even a couple that were there forever lol. And then left, and told us not to do that ever again or well get temp banned cause it causes lag and its against the rules.
So I wouldnt say this is totally new, but it is messed up. More than a few people have used lag to thier advantage, where do you draw the line, who do you help, who do you spank?
This is eve FFS, where scammers, exploiters, cheaters, thieves, spys are welcomed with open arms and dubbed heroes by half the player base.
My opinion is you change the game mechanic if it can be used as an exploit dont punish creative, albeit shameless players.
page 3 snypa
seems like you're saying anything goes, and that seems like a pretty terrible idea
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Koronos
Minmatar Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.05.31 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: Cynthia Ysolde seems like you're saying anything goes, and that seems like a pretty terrible idea
Well, to me it sounds like a sandbox mmorpg.
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JediTruth
Amarr EARTH'S VICTIMS OF EVOLUTION 2 Legion of The Damned.
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Posted - 2010.05.31 04:35:00 -
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Hi,
First time reading the forums and I stumble onto this area.
Just would like to say sup,
By the sounds of it you have space nerds that are blaming other space nerds for causing problems with the game. While uber space nerds dominate the game.
Sup nerds
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Koronos
Minmatar Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.05.31 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Mundus
Originally by: Koronos And yet you felt the need to petition them.
It was worth it for this thread alone.
HAH! Fair enough.
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Hinkledolph
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.31 06:25:00 -
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Even GMs fear the power of the sphere...
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Kriger
Caldari UK Freedom Fighters Focused Intentions
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Posted - 2010.05.31 06:33:00 -
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lol at PL.. again. Petitioning when things dont go their way? Never! outrageous! They are pro gents.. keep that in mind plz.
And yea mobile bubbles never get shot, so the whole redundancy argument has to be bullsh*t, so it must have been to induce lag. WTS bombs btw.
Hint to CCP. Rather than pulling stunts like this, change the gamemechanics to prevent bubbles being placed overlapping or at close proximity. But then you might as well just remove them all together. Oh did i mention, WTS bombs?
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Daco Cutter
Gallente NQX Innovations Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.05.31 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kriger And yea mobile bubbles never get shot....
I have personally watched the NC shoot mobile bubbles, so I could understand why someone might put more then 1 bubble up.
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari 24th Imperial Guard
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Posted - 2010.05.31 08:15:00 -
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Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 31/05/2010 08:16:07
Originally by: Kriger lol at PL.. again. Petitioning when things dont go their way? Never! outrageous! They are pro gents.. keep that in mind plz.
And yea mobile bubbles never get shot, so the whole redundancy argument has to be bullsh*t, so it must have been to induce lag. WTS bombs btw.
Hint to CCP. Rather than pulling stunts like this, change the gamemechanics to prevent bubbles being placed overlapping or at close proximity. But then you might as well just remove them all together. Oh did i mention, WTS bombs?
Wait. Your suggestion, if someone using exploits for lag generator, thats fine and not need petition ? If its true, you are terrible player and terrible poster.
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Corbeau Lenoir
Caldari ZER0. IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.31 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
Wait. Your suggestion, if someone using exploits for lag generator, thats fine and not need petition ? If its true, you are terrible player and terrible poster.
Maybe you should get more experience in 0.0 warfare, before judging people, who know how to fight in nullsec? Bubbles are placed on the gates for a reason and small hint for you: the reason is not to cause the lag. If PL can not fight around this without calling their GM, it just indicates how "good" they are at pvp.
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari 24th Imperial Guard
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Posted - 2010.05.31 08:32:00 -
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Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 31/05/2010 08:33:52
Originally by: Corbeau Lenoir
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
Wait. Your suggestion, if someone using exploits for lag generator, thats fine and not need petition ? If its true, you are terrible player and terrible poster.
Maybe you should get more experience in 0.0 warfare, before judging people, who know how to fight in nullsec? Bubbles are placed on the gates for a reason and small hint for you: the reason is not to cause the lag. If PL can not fight around this without calling their GM, it just indicates how "good" they are at pvp.
Maybe i have more 0 sec kill than you ? So better if you dont try evading. Exploit using is cheat. Like 70+ bubble on gate. I hope next time who ancored those bubbles and using exloit banned from game, because they breaking the game rules and EULA. So, better if u just keep your mouth close. The GM-s used their jobs and remove those items , but what about you dear Bob spawn ? Think to me do you not remember T20 GM ?
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Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.31 08:33:00 -
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Good call. Next time I bet IT will place 5-10 large t2 bubbles to cover the gate and that's all well and fine and noone will complain. The good thing is that the csaa's were saved because if they hadn't omg this would be the worst whinethread ever. :) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |
DRACO selen
Caldari The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.31 08:39:00 -
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Edited by: DRACO selen on 31/05/2010 08:41:26 that bubbles did create so much jump in lag, that you did not load, is simply not true. There were 4(!) guys that did not load as it seems, while the rest of the pl/nc fleet was out of all bubbles after 4.5 minutes.
just to compare this, in h-w it took me like 30 minutes to even get in game
Quote: Good call. Next time I bet IT will place 5-10 large t2 bubbles to cover the gate and that's all well and fine and noone will complain. The good thing is that the csaa's were saved because if they hadn't omg this would be the worst whinethread ever. :)
10 bubbles will be dead after 20 sec and therefore there is no point. in order to lock down someone today with all the numbers you need to use a massive ammount of bubbbles. and it's not like that it's just us doing this..
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar Big Shadows Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.31 08:48:00 -
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but but I like to place alot off bubbles, what is it left for me to do ingame now? But what happens if you see more then 10 dictors and hacdictors in system at a gate, will you petition them cuz they generate to much lag?
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari 24th Imperial Guard
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Posted - 2010.05.31 08:53:00 -
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Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 31/05/2010 08:55:27
Originally by: DRACO selen Edited by: DRACO selen on 31/05/2010 08:41:26 that bubbles did create so much jump in lag, that you did not load, is simply not true. There were 4(!) guys that did not load as it seems, while the rest of the pl/nc fleet was out of all bubbles after 4.5 minutes.
just to compare this, in h-w it took me like 30 minutes to even get in game
Quote: Good call. Next time I bet IT will place 5-10 large t2 bubbles to cover the gate and that's all well and fine and noone will complain. The good thing is that the csaa's were saved because if they hadn't omg this would be the worst whinethread ever. :)
10 bubbles will be dead after 20 sec and therefore there is no point. in order to lock down someone today with all the numbers you need to use a massive ammount of bubbbles. and it's not like that it's just us doing this..
Lying. ~3 sec need to lock a bubble. When lagging the system,because have 800 ppl in system, like yesterday the damage is sh*t a simple locking time increasing over 20-30 sec. Many times a simple BS kill need half minute for a big fleet because lag. And do you talk about fleet will kill within 20 sec the bubbles :D No, those bubbles was there in large numbers, because IT would generating lag. Those bubbles more objects in grid and made very big disadvantage who jumping into system. Everone know 70+ bubble on gate generate big lag, this is why CCP GM not enabled this exploit with cans too.
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DRACO selen
Caldari The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.31 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ace Frehley but but I like to place alot off bubbles, what is it left for me to do ingame now? But what happens if you see more then 10 dictors and hacdictors in system at a gate, will you petition them cuz they generate to much lag?
"hi the hostile fleet is camping the ingate and therefore creating lag. from my point of view this is an exploit. please remove the hostile fleet so i can enter the system without lag"
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Zaber Xavier
Caldari The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.31 09:04:00 -
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man i havent heard this much bs in a long time when did pl get there nuts cut off to make them going a petition what the NC do constanly. guys if you cant handle the heat then leave the game or go someplace else grow some balls and be a man damn yall. last time i petitioned anything was someone actually doing something bad and that was cursing in local chat the bubbles thing thats just another idiot that is un happy he didnt get his way grew up damn yall. and ccp stay out of it its not the bubbles or the ships its much of all the bs yall add before fixing the actuall issue with the game. we dont need a new people and places or a damn calender we need the codes fixed pre domion on the damn lag.
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Audrea
Gallente Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.31 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Midjutetur
Originally by: Golemag
Originally by: McKinlay Creating lag is a EULA violation and any items placed in that way are forfeit without reimbursement. Please be careful in the future with placing so many objects in space.
PR- was with similar nombers of bubbles around the station.
H-W was with similar nombers of bubbles around the dead poses.
yet, even with those nombers none of you was smart enough to petition it?
Dont you worry: 1) Mails to internal affairs are pending demanding investigation of the decision and answers on this. 2) According to answers - we shall adapt to CCPs logic. If this stays this way, I personally will be petitioning hostile fleets to be moved away, as they 'create lag'! and anything else I feel which causes my client to lag!
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Mr Rive
Gallente Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.31 09:19:00 -
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you had 52 bubbles on a gate, about 20 of them were larges and actually contributing to bubbling the gate, the rest were there because either someone was bored, or to create lag. Stop trying to milk it.
When we jumped in the 20 bubbles on the gate were enough to stop us, why did you need to put up a bunch of medium and smalls when we went to jump out?
Please continue though your tears are delicious
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Bernadictus
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.31 09:38:00 -
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NC camps h-w ATLAS POS 'grape-cage' style. No problem, we'll take our losses. PL gets smacked in the face. Runs of crying to the GM's for reimbursement and removal of the bubbles.
Real pro PL. |
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Hinkledolph
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.31 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zaber Xavier havent bs yall. thats un didnt yall. ccp bs yall actuall dont pre domion
Are you some kind of redneck sorcerer?
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Hyveres
Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.31 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Wait. Your suggestion, if someone using exploits for lag generator, thats fine and not need petition ? If its true, you are terrible player and terrible poster.
If blackscreening the hostiles was our goal IT would not have petitioned for node reinforcement.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Vulcan Raven, The Last Days Of Foxhound |
Kriger
Caldari UK Freedom Fighters Focused Intentions
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Posted - 2010.05.31 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Hyveres If blackscreening the hostiles was our goal IT would not have petitioned for node reinforcement.
Man dont tell them that, you are gonna burst their.. wait for it.. BUBBLE!
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Mr Rive
Gallente Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.31 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Bernadictus NC camps h-w ATLAS POS 'grape-cage' style. No problem, we'll take our losses. PL gets smacked in the face. Runs of crying to the GM's for reimbursement and removal of the bubbles.
Real pro PL.
Pretty sure we won the isk war
Especially with those popped bubbles
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Hinkledolph
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.31 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kriger
Originally by: Hyveres If blackscreening the hostiles was our goal IT would not have petitioned for node reinforcement.
Man dont tell them that, you are gonna burst their.. wait for it.. BUBBLE!
No need to keep your master's nuts in your mouth any longer. Your brown nose score is over 9000 already.
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Rover Vitesse
Gallente FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.31 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Rive
Originally by: Bernadictus NC camps h-w ATLAS POS 'grape-cage' style. No problem, we'll take our losses. PL gets smacked in the face. Runs of crying to the GM's for reimbursement and removal of the bubbles.
Real pro PL.
Pretty sure we won the isk war
Especially with those popped bubbles
Already been reimbursed pal. |
Thercon Jair
Minmatar Nex Exercitus IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.31 10:42:00 -
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So, wait, we're bashing each other about lag, what causes it and if it was intended to cause lag, while CCP sits back, and laughs as they just pulled the political party trick #1? Blame someone else, and watch as the blamed groups tear each other apart. ;)
How about "CCP fix your bloody game"?
It is so much fun to completely lag to death with 300 people in system. It's so much fun to pull in your drones and lose a couple to netherspace while doing so, each time, until you have none left. It's fun to use fighters, have the node crash, petition for the loss of your fighters just to hear "logs show nothing". Wait? You don't know when your node crashes?
I hope CCP finally finds the faulty bit of code that they introduced with Dominion... |
Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.05.31 10:57:00 -
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I feel for IT. I really do. CCP pulled the same trick on us when we anchored 100 GSC's in the shape of a giant space dong.
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.05.31 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Hyveres
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Wait. Your suggestion, if someone using exploits for lag generator, thats fine and not need petition ? If its true, you are terrible player and terrible poster.
If blackscreening the hostiles was our goal IT would not have petitioned for node reinforcement.
For some reason I really doubt you did. Because it's in IT's interest for the node to be unavailable.
Don't worry, I'm sure PL would have.
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Garreth Vlox
Minmatar Hysterical Dementia DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.05.31 11:14:00 -
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*****just to compare this, in h-w it took me like 30 minutes to even get in game*******
bull**** it wasn't the bubbles but nice try, had more to do with 600+ ppl beinging in that system 23 hours a day for the next week after your fail fight. and yes there were bubbles, 5-6 t2 larges per pos with one exception where we ran out of larges and had to use smalls, better luck next troll
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