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Melleia
Vulcan Innovations New Eden Research.
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:39:00 -
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Awesome move!
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:41:00 -
[2]
This is why I love EVE
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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BlackJack 21
Roid Pwners The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:42:00 -
[3]
classic
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Andrew Riviera
Caldari The First Church of the Azure Carrot The Dominion Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:42:00 -
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Aaaahahahahah. Oh god I needed a good laugh, stuck at work watching the tournament, and I think I startled some people in the next room over laughing about that. Killer showing from Hydra, followed by some serious lulz.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:42:00 -
[5]
Fantastic stuff! I actually expected them to take the money and pop the guy anyway, but I guess not. Very cool move, guys. I love Eve.
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WredStorm
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:42:00 -
[6]
That was definitely an interesting move following a beautiful stomping.
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Veliria
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:42:00 -
[7]
Originally by: CCP Navigator This is why I love EVE
Exactly, if there's ever any example one could give about stuff that only happens in EVE...here's a good one
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DeadDuck
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:43:00 -
[8]
Originally by: CCP Navigator This is why I love EVE
Oh yeah ? Well in a regular tournment both teams would be disqualified... is this the isk tournment ?
God is my Wingman |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:43:00 -
[9]
♥
Also, this is why EVE > all. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Jack Coutu
Gallente Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:43:00 -
[10]
hilarious
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Shaakka
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:43:00 -
[11]
cheap move
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JS LiamElms
Gallente Zor Industries Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:43:00 -
[12]
with high points, hydra now get an easy match next round.... sense a tatical move...
clever move
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:44:00 -
[13]
Awesome +1
*wants insight in any transactions for full appreciation* Help us to make parrots game related today! |
ROXGenghis
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:44:00 -
[14]
In on page 1.
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Isin Dule
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:44:00 -
[15]
I'd say rigged all the way - someone did place a huge bet on Agony
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Emsee
Empire Assault Corp Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:44:00 -
[16]
The end of that fight was a farce.
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Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:44:00 -
[17]
Can we get confirmation what happened with the isk? 1 bil transfered, but did the other 2 bil get there? -- Kismeteer, carebear extraordinaire
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Telvani
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:44:00 -
[18]
Is it confirmed whether or not they took the ISK, commentary was unclear |
Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:44:00 -
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sad but smart
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CCP Soundwave
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:45:00 -
[20]
best match ever
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xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996
BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:45:00 -
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dam proteus pilot LURED us out
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Mideiir
Amarr Frustrated Incorporated Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:45:00 -
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Hehe absolutely loved it! Seems like a smart move if they are confident enough about their next match.
I'm didn't think the rules would have allowed it like but what do i know..
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Burning Furry
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave best match ever
Any news on the money? last i heard was local chat saying offer not accepted but hydra suicided anyway?
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Vokradacka
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:45:00 -
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nice....but for 3B ??
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Rokoz
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:46:00 -
[25]
Thats was pritty sad. Egos running wild. Want to watch the best teams at the end of the day. Not guys that got stomped on.
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Bad Bobby
The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:46:00 -
[26]
Thanks for the cash guys.
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Maanvaiva
From Jita with Love
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:46:00 -
[27]
WTS Attention *****ing. -------------------
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Drazi1
Minmatar The Knights Templar R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:46:00 -
[28]
Matches should be fought to the last man, not thrown like this. Its just sucks and i hope in future it will not happen like this. It ruins the point of having a tourney.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:46:00 -
[29]
Originally by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996 dam proteus pilot LURED us out
YEAH RITE LOL!!1 Help us to make parrots game related today! |
MoHawk Nephilium
THE Perfectly Insane Tactical Unison Allied Forces
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:47:00 -
[30]
Was that Hydra or PL? nice copy hydra
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:47:00 -
[31]
What is the point in have a tournament then?
Doesn't make sense to me and spoils a lot of fun.
Can't see why people are getting so excited about this. It is stupid as well as bad. |
Enzee
Gallente Mos Vape Investments Mos Vape Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:47:00 -
[32]
It's not my cup of tea, but I admit to the originality of it as a one off event. However if it became the norm for Round 1 of the tournaments, I think it would be a problem.
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Cute Joe
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:48:00 -
[33]
HYDRA AND AGONY, I'M SETTING STANDINGS TO -10, PAY ME NOW 10 BILLION
srsly, you should have just shot that proteus, no love for you
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Raiden Kaine
Semper Liber
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:48:00 -
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If they did receive ISK or if they didn't, Hydra definitely feels confident either way. |
Vonstilton
Mysterys Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:48:00 -
[35]
Fair play Hydra! -------------------------------------------------- Only the dead have seen the end of the war... |
Desiree Mabuto
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:49:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Gnulpie What is the point in have a tournament then?
Doesn't make sense to me and spoils a lot of fun.
Can't see why people are getting so excited about this. It is stupid as well as bad.
I totally share this understanding. Both parties involved should be disqualified. The tournament looses sense if you can buy your victory.
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:50:00 -
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You only get that in Eve. Love it.
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Isin Dule
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:50:00 -
[38]
What's 3bil nowadays - just about nothing - so what was that about?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Desiree Mabuto Both parties involved should be disqualified. The tournament looses sense if you can buy your victory.
Good thing that they haven't won anything yet, thenà ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:51:00 -
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Disqualification both two team. This is not how to buy a cvictory tournament. This is ruins the game.
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Errastas
THC LTD Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:52:00 -
[41]
This is Eve
Kudos to HYDRA
lol
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:53:00 -
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I'm going to laugh so hard if Hydra lose next weekend.
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George Grob
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:53:00 -
[43]
well if you don't know how to pvp you have to try with the wallet, am i rite?
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trnmarnd
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Disqualification both two team. This is not how to buy a cvictory tournament. This is ruins the game.
This is EvE. That's how the game is INTENDED.
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Hormus
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:54:00 -
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I think the tournament should stop right now. No point in going on. Let CCP auction the tournament winnings, and off with it.
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Halaster Blackcloak
GK inc. Panda Team
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:54:00 -
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Everyone saying they should be disqualified should go back to WoW
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Jack bubu
Lyonesse. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:54:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Disqualification both two team. This is not how to buy a cvictory tournament. This is ruins the game.
since when was anything in eve about fair play again?
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Andrew Riviera
Caldari The First Church of the Azure Carrot The Dominion Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Andrew Riviera on 05/06/2010 15:55:06 Edited by: Andrew Riviera on 05/06/2010 15:54:37
Originally by: "Tiger's Spirit" Disqualification both two team. This is not how to buy a cvictory tournament. This is ruins the game.
I dunno about that, Spirit, but you is ruins the grammar. Bloody hell.
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Psychotic Maniac
Caldari Head Shrinkers
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:54:00 -
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and they call NC bbf? --
"One death is a tragedy. One million deaths is a statistic." |
Christina Bamar
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:54:00 -
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For the record Agony did NOT pay any money to Hydra, they did what they did of their own volition.
CEO, Agony Unleashed |
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:54:00 -
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This is why EVE is such a phenomenal sandbox. Players can make agreements and double cross each other in mid game as long as it is within the forum rules set down by CCP Claw and the rest of the tournament organizers.
A bold move by Hydra, in my opinion.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Doccia Ellicis
Caldari Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:54:00 -
[52]
what the hell guys.
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oodin
Snuff Box
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Errastas This is Eve
Kudos to HYDRA
lol
no this is not EVE!! in eve falcons would have decloaked on both sides,this is the tourney and this move sucked bigtime.
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Drazi1
Minmatar The Knights Templar R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Narciss Sevar I'm going to laugh so hard if Hydra lose next weekend.
Now that would be epic , hehehehe
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DeWieKat
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:55:00 -
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CCP looks a lill¦ stupid after this stunt ;)
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Desiree Mabuto
Originally by: Gnulpie What is the point in have a tournament then?
Doesn't make sense to me and spoils a lot of fun.
Can't see why people are getting so excited about this. It is stupid as well as bad.
I totally share this understanding. Both parties involved should be disqualified. The tournament looses sense if you can buy your victory.
LOL how butt hurt.
nice move hydra <3
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:55:00 -
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I will start to lol when Hydra loses the next match without taking down a single ship
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Aiko Zan
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:55:00 -
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What hydra did was a classic EvE move.
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Mideiir
Amarr Frustrated Incorporated Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Christina Bamar For the record Agony did NOT pay any money to Hydra, they did what they did of their own volition.
I guess they must like you.. Hydra didn't want that win anyway.
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King Gore
Sword and Pistol
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:58:00 -
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Edited by: King Gore on 05/06/2010 15:59:20 Even though Hydra ransomed Agony they may still lose.
EDIT: Get over it. Good lol's - She holds me close and whispers wet, 'There are cannibals among us.' |
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Rokoz
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:59:00 -
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You've got to see the fact that this opens the door to everyone doing it though. Do you really want to watch that every match?
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Dextr Methorafan
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:59:00 -
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this is not "in game" this is a tournament.... an out of game "contest" for the alliances.... this has nothing to do with in game.. its totally wrong... CCP expects players to support the tourney and you allow crap like this.
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator This is why EVE is such a phenomenal sandbox
Phenomenical bullsh*t. They won points, but what about other teams who not cheating ?
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MoHawk Nephilium
THE Perfectly Insane Tactical Unison Allied Forces
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Narciss Sevar I'm going to laugh so hard if Hydra lose next weekend.
Agreed, Who sold them your set up? LOL
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Vokradacka
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:00:00 -
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njn bad tournament system = its almost better win with losses than without :()
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oodin
Snuff Box
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:01:00 -
[66]
Originally by: CCP Navigator This is why EVE is such a phenomenal sandbox. Players can make agreements and double cross each other in mid game as long as it is within the forum rules set down by CCP Claw and the rest of the tournament organizers.
A bold move by Hydra, in my opinion.
then your rules fail big time. this is the tourney and not eve. in eve i would have been able to travel to the tourney and attack both sides and since i cant do that then this is either not eve or not a sandbox game. did hydra follow the rules? yes. have it ruined the tourney? yes.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:01:00 -
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Great fight
Who the hell cares how people get the points during qualifiers. Not to mention the tournament point system allows for this kind of strategic decision making. Hydra just sold Agony the chance of making it to the finals, while their chances of getting there are very good regardless if they won or lost, since they killed almost all enemy ships.
The finals have so good rewards and you gain so much prestige from winning, that I don't think anyone can afford to buy their way to victory there and I don't think the opposition is going to make a realistic offer there anyway.
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Raimo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:01:00 -
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:D
(Oodin calm down ;) ) ----------------------------------------------- www.eve-arena.com
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Great fight
Who the hell cares how people get the points during qualifiers. Not to mention the tournament point system allows for this kind of strategic decision making. Hydra just sold Agony the chance of making it to the finals, while their chances of getting there are very good regardless if they won or lost, since they killed almost all enemy ships.
The finals have so good rewards and you gain so much prestige from winning, that I don't think anyone can afford to buy their way to victory there and I don't think the opposition is going to make a realistic offer there anyway.
^^ This. The amount of butthurt over what may just be the EVE:iest move ever just makes it more hillarious.
Agony did not buy a victory ù they bought points that probably won't help much considering how much they got spanked. Hydra sold points they didn't need considering what kind of match they'll have next time and how much they spanked in this one. As much as the tournament is EVE combat boiled down and refined; that kind of qualifying-match tactic is EVE politics boiled down and refined.
——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
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CCP Claw
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:06:00 -
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Some people have e-honour, some dont, some people like to backstab, assassinate, or doublecross, some dont. We call it the sandbox. In that sandbox, there are some lone wolves.
Welcome to Eve Online.
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CCP Soundwave
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
Originally by: CCP Navigator This is why EVE is such a phenomenal sandbox
Phenomenical bullsh*t. They won points, but what about other teams who not cheating ?
It's not cheating? This is perfectly within the rules and has been since as far back as I can remember.
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: James Tritanius on 05/06/2010 16:09:08
There are no rules against bribing wins in semi-finals and finals neither. So don't say it's just limited to points, and not the tournament.
Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
Originally by: CCP Navigator This is why EVE is such a phenomenal sandbox
Phenomenical bullsh*t. They won points, but what about other teams who not cheating ?
It's not cheating? This is perfectly within the rules and has been since as far back as I can remember.
Edit your rules and make it cheating. An isolated event is fun, yes. But imagine if every tournament game is like this.
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:09:00 -
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Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 05/06/2010 16:15:33 Oh man this is tournament, not backstabbing, stealing from other teams and spectators. Pure who the best pvpers, not who the best cheaters,exploiters blablabla in the game. I hope next time all team will sold their points and wont fight just selfdestructing.
I will see it, what will tell us the CCP GMs. Phenomenical selfdestructing tournament ?
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Balsak
Minmatar Friends of Bigfoot
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:10:00 -
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From an outsiders spectator view I can understand why people would not be happy with this turn of events. On the other hand from an Eve player and fan this is all part of the game and I loved it.
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Cute Joe
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:10:00 -
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would be fun if you'd add random effects like in wormholes when a match begins
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XenosisReaper
Rising Ashes Inc. Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:11:00 -
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The amount of butthurt here is deliscious, if you don't like it, don't watch it,
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Spacetrucker46
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:12:00 -
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it wil bij laugh when they loss the next one
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Oh man this is tournament, not backstabbing, stealing from other teams and spectators.
Sure it is. It always has been. This meta-game caper just happened right in front of the camera, unlike some of the things that have happened in the past. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: XenosisReaper The amount of butthurt here is deliscious, if you don't like it, don't watch it,
The amount of idiocy here is phenomenal. If you don't like what we are saying, don't comment on it.
Oh wai-
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xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996
BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:14:00 -
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2 all da haters stfu NOOBIES, ur jus jelous cos we just wtfpowned and made isk from it lol u now nothing so shut you're mouth NO_obies
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HONOURWARRIOR
Titan Industrial Elite Enterprises HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:15:00 -
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We follow da rules m8s.
All others can follow dem 2 u no?
I like isk aswell
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Morel Nova
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Morel Nova on 05/06/2010 16:15:38 sweet isk & lulz :
http://i47.tinypic.com/ab5d08.jpg Reward small gang/solo pvp!
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mindama
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:16:00 -
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Soon we will see similar move like hydra did at the world cup in south africa in a different way to avoid stronger teams!I like there move as this is eve not wow ****.congrats on the nice move
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Monda Hatake
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:16:00 -
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im all for this great move, but having it all go down in the local chat is not cool, teams taking a dive for isk or a deal behind closed doors would be funny to see. but it is a tournament and doing this out in the open takes way from the sport of it.isk for kills is ok but if u move before the timer hits 0 Claw will smash you, crazy.
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Zero Space
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:16:00 -
[85]
/me laughs at the commentator who is so up HYDRA's ass. Apparently all the other alliances are **** compared to HYDRA? Thats just the impression he must give off with his arrogant smugness.
Good job regardless, made for great lols.
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Strepella
Pod Liberation Authority
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:16:00 -
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it makes perfect sense why they did it.
they got money, the owned.. the got a lot of points, and by forfeiting the match, they made it easier for them to get into the finals.
it happens a lot in professional tournament bracket sports, so why not eve :) |
Ragnar Rancidbreeks
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:16:00 -
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It's gamesmanship -- winning the meta-game even if you lose the immediate aspect.
If *you* were the general facing those guys, could you honestly say you'd know what their battle-plan was ?
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Raiden Kaine
Semper Liber
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Claw Some people have e-honour, some dont, some people like to backstab, assassinate, or doublecross, some dont. We call it the sandbox. In that sandbox, there are some lone wolves.
Welcome to Eve Online.
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Valeronx
Celestial Horizon Corp. United Corporate Ventures
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:17:00 -
[89]
Originally by: CCP Claw Some people have e-honour, some dont, some people like to backstab, assassinate, or doublecross, some dont. We call it the sandbox. In that sandbox, there are some lone wolves.
Welcome to Eve Online.
This. It was a neat move, and part of what makes this game so interesting month after month, year after year.
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Spacetrucker46
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Spacetrucker46 on 05/06/2010 16:18:54 Edited by: Spacetrucker46 on 05/06/2010 16:18:29
Originally by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996 2 all da haters stfu NOOBIES, ur jus jelous cos we just wtfpowned and made isk from it lol u now nothing so shut you're mouth NO_obies
to bad that you most play like that
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Enzee
Gallente Mos Vape Investments Mos Vape Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:18:00 -
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People keep commenting on butthurt, and making references to not watching.
I will attempt to speak with a clearer point than the other people who don't like this move. It's not that we don't want to watch, it's that we so desperately DO want to watch. As I stated on page 2, as a one off event, it was amusing for some and I can accept it. However if this becomes a commonplace thing in Round 1, it stops being fights and starts being a circus.
I love the tournament and that is why we joined it, to try to play with the pros. However, I feel it will take the shine off the tournament if fighting stops being the main method for advancing.
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Dextr Methorafan
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:19:00 -
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where is the connection to the game? Does the tourney decide SOV? Does it make changes in the market? Are the mass of players allowed to go to the tournament system?
Don't say its part of the game when it is obviously separated and only certain players are allowed to participate. And then the players have to be transported by the devs to get to the tourney system. The tournament is not a sandbox, its a contest with rules. If you are going to allow anything goes then have it in Jita so the rest of us can screw it up also.
The devs supporting this crap just makes it worse, don't expect any increase in participation or viewing in the future. We want a contest not a craptest.
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Xiong Yoshi
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:20:00 -
[93]
Do people even realize just how difficult it would be to try and "monitor" such behavior? All that would happen is, instead of everyone getting an opportunity to see the colluding in local - it happens in back channels with the same end result.
Even if one doesn't like that colluding happens - get over it, CCP isn't going to invest the resources to attempt to stop it and would fail even if they did. A more likely result would be the end of the Tournaments...
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Lorkin Desal
Caldari Lone Star Partners
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:20:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Lorkin Desal on 05/06/2010 16:20:03
Originally by: CCP Soundwave best match ever
quoted for truth
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Tul Kezad
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:20:00 -
[95]
Nice move HYDRA, you will win :)
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:20:00 -
[96]
Oh god, the slippery slope, I'm falling...
D O O O W W W W W N N n n . . . --------
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:24:00 -
[97]
Edited by: James Tritanius on 05/06/2010 16:25:00
Originally by: Abrazzar Oh god, the slippery slope, I'm falling...
D O O O W W W W W N N n n . . .
The slippery slope argument works here because the only reason this action is justified (and rightfully so, by the way) is because it's within the rules. Therefore, we should be make any argument with examples to worse things that can happen within the rules, without it being a fallacy.
One such example is all qualifying rounds getting bribed (so week one would be <match start> <mass suicide> <match end>). It is within the current rules, thus, not fallacious.
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Christina Bamar
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:25:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Christina Bamar on 05/06/2010 16:25:35
Originally by: Morel Nova Edited by: Morel Nova on 05/06/2010 16:24:16 sweet isk & lulz :
http://i50.tinypic.com/mheg5y.jpg
The pictured transfer happened at 15:29
From local chat in the tourney system...
[ 2010.06.05 15:34:03 ] Admiral Goberius > for 1 bil isk now and 2 after the fight
So we transfered the isk 5 minutes before you guys made your offer?
CEO, Agony Unleashed |
xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996
BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:27:00 -
[99]
nice modified chat logs
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:29:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Dextr Methorafan where is the connection to the game? Does the tourney decide SOV? Does it make changes in the market? Are the mass of players allowed to go to the tournament system?
Don't say its part of the game when it is obviously separated and only certain players are allowed to participate. And then the players have to be transported by the devs to get to the tourney system. The tournament is not a sandbox, its a contest with rules. If you are going to allow anything goes then have it in Jita so the rest of us can screw it up also.
The devs supporting this crap just makes it worse, don't expect any increase in participation or viewing in the future. We want a contest not a craptest.
This!
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Versuvius Marii
CKSSA Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:30:00 -
[101]
Calling Chribba to the thread. :3
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MoHawk Nephilium
THE Perfectly Insane Tactical Unison Allied Forces
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:32:00 -
[102]
Originally by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996 2 all da haters stfu NOOBIES, ur jus jelous cos we just wtfpowned and made isk from it lol u now nothing so shut you're mouth NO_obies
Remember FEMA? :) I do
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:33:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Christina Bamar Edited by: Christina Bamar on 05/06/2010 16:25:35
Originally by: Morel Nova Edited by: Morel Nova on 05/06/2010 16:24:16 sweet isk & lulz :
http://i50.tinypic.com/mheg5y.jpg
The pictured transfer happened at 15:29
From local chat in the tourney system...
[ 2010.06.05 15:34:03 ] Admiral Goberius > for 1 bil isk now and 2 after the fight
So we transfered the isk 5 minutes before you guys made your offer?
We transferred the isk before we lost any ships apparently
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Zero Space
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:33:00 -
[104]
Has CCP Claw managed to climb out of HYDRA's anus yet?
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Alexi Blue
Serra Technologies
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:34:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Morel Nova Edited by: Morel Nova on 05/06/2010 16:24:16 sweet isk & lulz :
http://i50.tinypic.com/mheg5y.jpg
The 3rd log appears to be Photoshoped, the balance number is a few pixels too high.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:35:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Dextr Methorafan The devs supporting this crap just makes it worse, don't expect any increase in participation or viewing in the future. We want a contest not a craptest.
Again, you do realise that this is nothing new? Meta-gaming and back-hand deals have been part of the tournament since roughly foreverà ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Rokoz
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:35:00 -
[107]
Well now every match I'm watching I'm thinking it's fixed. Thanks for ruining something people have been looking forward to seeing. Wouldn't it also be best for the devs to keep a impartial stand on this? Instead of defending something thats a complete joke
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slickbak
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:35:00 -
[108]
I feel bad for non playing members of Agony Empire, kind of made you look like a bunch of punks, hope u get through to round of 32 to save some face.
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xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996
BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:35:00 -
[109]
Edited by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996 on 05/06/2010 16:35:23
Originally by: Alexi Blue
Originally by: Morel Nova Edited by: Morel Nova on 05/06/2010 16:24:16 sweet isk & lulz :
http://i50.tinypic.com/mheg5y.jpg
The 3rd log appears to be Photoshoped, the balance number is a few pixels too high.
my dik is a few pixels 2 high inside ur MOM HAHAHHAAHAHAHHA
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King Gore
Sword and Pistol
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:36:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Dextr Methorafan We want a contest not a craptest.
Cuz you totally speak for every one, amirite? - She holds me close and whispers wet, 'There are cannibals among us.' |
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monkeys elbow
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:36:00 -
[111]
I really dont see the problem, its eve, so what our way of doing things is different than others, but aint that why we love it?
It really could backfire, they took a big risk for 3bill, IMO 3bill is little isk to the risk involved, and yeah so what if they did it, you think they are the first??? lol, the first to do it in full view of all the community maybe, but im sure there not the first.
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Lumy
Minmatar eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:37:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Zero Space Has CCP Claw managed to climb out of HYDRA's anus yet?
It's very spacious and comfortable anus, you know?
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Spacepunk Aerowolf
Gallente Unity Of Legends
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:37:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Dextr Methorafan where is the connection to the game? Does the tourney decide SOV? Does it make changes in the market? Are the mass of players allowed to go to the tournament system?
Don't say its part of the game when it is obviously separated and only certain players are allowed to participate. And then the players have to be transported by the devs to get to the tourney system. The tournament is not a sandbox, its a contest with rules. If you are going to allow anything goes then have it in Jita so the rest of us can screw it up also.
The devs supporting this crap just makes it worse, don't expect any increase in participation or viewing in the future. We want a contest not a craptest.
Who is this "we" you speak of? And if you don't think stuff like this sparks increased interest in the game and/or tournament... well you're probably wrong. Heh.
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Clytamnestra
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:37:00 -
[114]
Comparing the tourny to the regulated games of the real world. No, things like this doesn't happen as overtly in the real word.
But there are so few things in Eve that are regulated anyway. The markets have price fixing between industrial corporations and massive monopolies. Warfare is basically paying the police to look the other way.
Everything in Eve depends on the sandbox regulating itself. With what's at stake for the winners, these kinds of shenanigans are for the qualifiers only.
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Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:37:00 -
[115]
http://i50.tinypic.com/mheg5y.jpg
gg genos
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:38:00 -
[116]
I wouldn't call it a bold move, it was however a clever move (and entirely in the spirit of eve).
They get 84 points and most likely play a sub-optimal team next weekend.
Agony get 125 points and play a top flight group.
I highly doubt the ransom was paid by Agony and I strongly suspect Hydra planned to do this before the start of the match as part of general tournament tactics.
Chatsubo RP Discussion
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Florio
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:39:00 -
[117]
Instead of advertising this as a PvP Tournament, perhaps it should be renamed the Daily Politics show.
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FU00110010
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:39:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Morel Nova Edited by: Morel Nova on 05/06/2010 16:24:16 sweet isk & lulz :
http://i50.tinypic.com/mheg5y.jpg
Jeez you cant do anything right. It's clear that's fake. The first donation hasnt updated the balance and the insurance ISK never got added to the balance either. 2/10 for effort.
Next time, check it over before you post.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:41:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Florio Instead of advertising this as a PvP Tournament, perhaps it should be renamed the Daily Politics show.
Heh its always been a bit shonky - SF have had opponents ratting out their team mates and offering to throw fights for us since 2006.
Chatsubo RP Discussion
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Spatiopathe
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:41:00 -
[120]
Ofc its meta-gaming. But its totally matching with eve spirit, isk rules everything, ransom and deal are usual in game, so why not in tournament ? And its a game, not a sport with "honor", in a game you just need to have fun, and this match make us laugh :D
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Hun Jakuza
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:42:00 -
[121]
Edited by: Hun Jakuza on 05/06/2010 16:46:17
Originally by: Spacepunk Aerowolf
Originally by: Dextr Methorafan where is the connection to the game? Does the tourney decide SOV? Does it make changes in the market? Are the mass of players allowed to go to the tournament system?
Don't say its part of the game when it is obviously separated and only certain players are allowed to participate. And then the players have to be transported by the devs to get to the tourney system. The tournament is not a sandbox, its a contest with rules. If you are going to allow anything goes then have it in Jita so the rest of us can screw it up also.
The devs supporting this crap just makes it worse, don't expect any increase in participation or viewing in the future. We want a contest not a craptest.
Who is this "we" you speak of? And if you don't think stuff like this sparks increased interest in the game and/or tournament... well you're probably wrong. Heh.
We "the players" the "spectators". Tell me dear friend what is this tournament ? Who can give biggest ISK for enemy or PvP tournament ? Oh i see, some smart guy talk about here PvP tournament sandbox. Maybe need politics button too in the tourny and the fighters will set blue each others and go to pub without fights. LOL And who will be the best pvpers in the tournament ? Who can give to another one much more ISK ?
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Chir Ishi
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:46:00 -
[122]
http://www.errorlevelanalysis.com/permalink/0af2245/
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:47:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Hun Jakuza
Originally by: Spacepunk Aerowolf Who is this "we" you speak of?
We "the players" the "spectators".
You should probably spell that with and "I" instead thenà ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Lucius Rex
Minmatar Rex Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:49:00 -
[124]
Awsome move.
It also means a rule change will be needed for the next turnament that will make such moves pointless.
Couse otherwise everybody and their uncle will be doing it.
Lucius Rex
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Professor Leech
Transmetropolitan
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:49:00 -
[125]
This is what makes eve like pro-wrestling.
I find it hilarious the number of posters angry about what went on. A shame that they still don't know how to play eve.
Originally by: LADY MEGA because of the PI?
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MoHawk Nephilium
THE Perfectly Insane Tactical Unison Allied Forces
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:50:00 -
[126]
Edited by: MoHawk Nephilium on 05/06/2010 16:51:14
Originally by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996 Edited by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996 on 05/06/2010 16:35:23
Originally by: Alexi Blue
Originally by: Morel Nova Edited by: Morel Nova on 05/06/2010 16:24:16 sweet isk & lulz :
http://i50.tinypic.com/mheg5y.jpg
The 3rd log appears to be Photoshoped, the balance number is a few pixels too high.
my dik is a few pixels 2 high inside ur MOM HAHAHHAAHAHAHHA
Are you like 13 or 14 years old? I havn't heard that since I was that age
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:50:00 -
[127]
Alliance warfare has always had a heavy politics and dirty tricks component. Keeping it in the tournament is just following the spirit.
Anyone remember Blood Bowl? There was a whole slew of dirty tricks regulated in the game. Similar it's with EVE, just there isn't a full manual for it. As long as in-game methods are used, everything is fine. --------
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Hun Jakuza
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:50:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Hun Jakuza
Originally by: Spacepunk Aerowolf Who is this "we" you speak of?
We "the players" the "spectators".
You should probably spell that with and "I" instead thenà
+ Dextr Methorafan and other one who dont like this sh*t in tournament. This not "I" this "WE"
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Mercurial Blood
eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:51:00 -
[129]
Originally by: MoHawk Nephilium
Originally by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996 Edited by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996 on 05/06/2010 16:35:23
Originally by: Alexi Blue
Originally by: Morel Nova Edited by: Morel Nova on 05/06/2010 16:24:16 sweet isk & lulz :
http://i50.tinypic.com/mheg5y.jpg
The 3rd log appears to be Photoshoped, the balance number is a few pixels too high.
Are you like 13 or 14 years old? my dik is a few pixels 2 high inside ur MOM HAHAHHAAHAHAHHA
Neva stop empty quoting!
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Zhakuri
Caldari Dog's Life
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:54:00 -
[130]
Funnier still, I haven't seen a single Agony member complain about it at all. Hydra, good sport and good times. |
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Spacetrucker46
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:55:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Lucius Rex Awsome move.
It also means a rule change will be needed for the next turnament that will make such moves pointless.
Couse otherwise everybody and their uncle will be doing it.
hope so otherwise we gone think that tournament is fixt
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MasterOB1
Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:55:00 -
[132]
This was win...
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Jack bubu
Lyonesse. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:55:00 -
[133]
garmon trollin itt
how many char did he manage to get banned on eve-o forums? i guess this ones next :P
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:56:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Zhakuri Funnier still, I haven't seen a single Agony member complain about it at all. Hydra, good sport and good times.
Lol I should think not. They went from being OUT to IN WITH A DECENT CHANCE. In the space of 4 mins worth of suiciding Hydra ships and didn't need to pay an isk.
I wouldn't be complaining either
Chatsubo RP Discussion
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beautyispain
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:56:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Nika Dekaia You only get that in Eve. Love it.
How are we only getting this in Eve? Seriously, you can surely kill yourself in any other game
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:56:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Hun Jakuza + Dextr Methorafan and other one who dont like this sh*t in tournament. This not "I" this "WE"
Then you should say "us two", not "we the players" because you simply don't represent the players as a group. Tough. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Kn1v3s 999
Gallente Gung-Ho Guns
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:58:00 -
[137]
pure win.
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Spacetrucker46
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:04:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Zhakuri Funnier still, I haven't seen a single Agony member complain about it at all. Hydra, good sport and good times.
when I was tournamentleader I take both out tournament
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Swidgen
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:04:00 -
[139]
This is the first news I've seen today about the tournament. Thankfully it will be the last. The fact these teams are not immediately disqualified is a disgrace, not a lulz fest.
At least this AT8 fiasco means I don't have to load Adobe Flash on my computer to watch. Adobe confirmed today that there are new exploits in the wild that can compromise your entire computer if you use Flash. There's a fix due for that around the same time as Incarna. Have fun and be sure to blame it on links to keyloggers the next time your account details are hacked!
And can we please stop with the flawed "sandbox" garbage? A sandbox is where children play with harmless stuff under close adult supervision. Eve is anything but. Find another term for it or stop pretending you speak English.
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Davide Montanegru
Jita Alts Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:05:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Swidgen This is the first news I've seen today about the tournament. Thankfully it will be the last. The fact these teams are not immediately disqualified is a disgrace, not a lulz fest.
At least this AT8 fiasco means I don't have to load Adobe Flash on my computer to watch. Adobe confirmed today that there are new exploits in the wild that can compromise your entire computer if you use Flash. There's a fix due for that around the same time as Incarna. Have fun and be sure to blame it on links to keyloggers the next time your account details are hacked!
And can we please stop with the flawed "sandbox" garbage? A sandbox is where children play with harmless stuff under close adult supervision. Eve is anything but. Find another term for it or stop pretending you speak English.
u mad?
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Zhakuri
Caldari Dog's Life
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:06:00 -
[141]
...If you don't like it, get into an alliance, get into the tournament, and do something different. Both teams are moving on and having fun, and it was fun to watch. I'm sure that "most" people will agree. Stop complaining and enjoy the tournament, enjoy the game, maybe...study politics a bit? Bwahaha.
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William Pierce
Caldari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:06:00 -
[142]
We are the puppeteers, and you all are our puppets.
vOv
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King Gore
Sword and Pistol
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:08:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Swidgen This is the first news I've seen today about the tournament. Thankfully it will be the last. The fact these teams are not immediately disqualified is a disgrace, not a lulz fest.
At least this AT8 fiasco means I don't have to load Adobe Flash on my computer to watch. Adobe confirmed today that there are new exploits in the wild that can compromise your entire computer if you use Flash. There's a fix due for that around the same time as Incarna. Have fun and be sure to blame it on links to keyloggers the next time your account details are hacked!
And can we please stop with the flawed "sandbox" garbage? A sandbox is where children play with harmless stuff under close adult supervision. Eve is anything but. Find another term for it or stop pretending you speak English.
So you're the bully that comes by and smashes my sandbox tunnels. - She holds me close and whispers wet, 'There are cannibals among us.' |
Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:09:00 -
[144]
Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 05/06/2010 17:14:55 Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 05/06/2010 17:12:25
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Hun Jakuza + Dextr Methorafan and other one who dont like this sh*t in tournament. This not "I" this "WE"
Then you should say "us two", not "we the players" because you simply don't represent the players as a group. Tough.
Realy read this topic ? Two players ? Much more. And other things, you represent who ? You cant using your brain ? You see the danger what will create this incorrect step against other teams? Everyone will be cheating. Every teams will be next time sold their points. Those players will win who has more money, not who have more skills in pvp. Every will other who not will win with cheat tournament, will lost, lost fun from tourney watching. And other thing same on Hydra. They are cheap players. 3bills for a match, what watching over 30k spectators. I saw with this game almost +30 new eve spectators (possible future players) we want htem invite to eve, and when they see it what happend all tell us for old players, we dont want to play this game if everyone can cheat in a tournament. So CCP lost too.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:13:00 -
[145]
holy **** this is like the holy grail of trolldom
- Gob
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5kyscreamx
Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:13:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 05/06/2010 17:09:43
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Hun Jakuza + Dextr Methorafan and other one who dont like this sh*t in tournament. This not "I" this "WE"
Then you should say "us two", not "we the players" because you simply don't represent the players as a group. Tough.
Realy read this topic ? Two players ? Much more. And other things, you represent who ? You cant using your brain ? You see the danger what will create this incorrect step against other teams? Everyone will be cheating. Every teams will be next time sold their points. Those players will win who has more money, not who have more skills in pvp. Every will other who not will win with cheat tournament, will lost, lost fun from tourney watching. And other thing same on Hydra. They are cheap players. 3bills for a match, what watching over 30k spectators.
stop posting your embarassment to caldari corporation Mr, Spirit =====
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King Gore
Sword and Pistol
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:14:00 -
[147]
Originally by: King Gore Edited by: King Gore on 05/06/2010 15:59:20 Even though Hydra ransomed Agony they may still lose.
EDIT: Get over it. Good lol's
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:15:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Realy read this topic ? Two players ? Much more.
One player with several accounts and up to three characters per account. Yep, forums are representative. Why don't you make a thread about it in the Assembly Hall to vote over it and see how much support there actually exists for your position? --------
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Tennents Supra
eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:27:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 05/06/2010 17:14:55 Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 05/06/2010 17:12:25
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Hun Jakuza + Dextr Methorafan and other one who dont like this sh*t in tournament. This not "I" this "WE"
Then you should say "us two", not "we the players" because you simply don't represent the players as a group. Tough.
Realy read this topic ? Two players ? Much more. And other things, you represent who ? You cant using your brain ? You see the danger what will create this incorrect step against other teams? Everyone will be cheating. Every teams will be next time sold their points. Those players will win who has more money, not who have more skills in pvp. Every will other who not will win with cheat tournament, will lost, lost fun from tourney watching. And other thing same on Hydra. They are cheap players. 3bills for a match, what watching over 30k spectators. I saw with this game almost +30 new eve spectators (possible future players) we want htem invite to eve, and when they see it what happend all tell us for old players, we dont want to play this game if everyone can cheat in a tournament. So CCP lost too.
QFT
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Brom Crysal
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:30:00 -
[150]
Seriously, folks... it's only happened once, we've been through a number of fights since then, and it hasn't repeated. Personally, I'm much more disappointed with the drake/tengu missile spam. If this buyout thing happens in the finals, I'll care. as yet, I don't.
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:32:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Realy read this topic ? Two players ? Much more.
One player with several accounts and up to three characters per account. Yep, forums are representative. Why don't you make a thread about it in the Assembly Hall to vote over it and see how much support there actually exists for your position?
You telling me dear hydra alt ?
Check it:
DeadDuck:
Oh yeah ? Well in a regular tournment both teams would be disqualified... is this the isk tournment ?
Shaakka: cheap move
Emsee: The end of that fight was a farce.
Rokoz: Thats was pritty sad. Egos running wild. Want to watch the best teams at the end of the day. Not guys that got stomped on.
Maanvaiva: WTS Attention *****ing.
Drazi1: Matches should be fought to the last man, not thrown like this. Its just sucks and i hope in future it will not happen like this. It ruins the point of having a tourney.
Enzee: It's not my cup of tea, but I admit to the originality of it as a one off event. However if it became the norm for Round 1 of the tournaments, I think it would be a problem.
Desiree Mabuto: Both parties involved should be disqualified. The tournament looses sense if you can buy your victory.
Tiger's Spirit: Disqualification both two team. This is not how to buy a cvictory tournament. This is ruins the game.
Hormus: I think the tournament should stop right now. No point in going on. Let CCP auction the tournament winnings, and off with it.
Halaster Blackcloak: Everyone saying they should be disqualified should go back to WoW
oodin: o this is not EVE!! in eve falcons would have decloaked on both sides,this is the tourney and this move sucked bigtime.
Just from first 2 page from this thread.
Oh and wait. Yes this guys not Hydra alts.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:35:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Just from first 2 page from this thread.
Oh and wait. Yes this guys not Hydra alts.
Irrelevant. You're still not "the players" or "the spectators". ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Hormus
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:37:00 -
[153]
Edited by: Hormus on 05/06/2010 17:38:01 Well, I agree with Tiger Spirit.
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:40:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 05/06/2010 17:37:34
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Just from first 2 page from this thread.
Oh and wait. Yes this guys not Hydra alts.
Irrelevant. You're still not "the players" or "the spectators".
àoh and you might want to cheack what some of those actually say.
Who talk about me ? You can read the names dear Hydra alt ? You see 1 names there ? And you know what is irrevelant ? What say to me a Hydra alt like you.
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:43:00 -
[155]
Did agony pay the money?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:45:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit You can read the names dear Hydra alt ?
Oh dear. You've figured that you have no argument, I take it since you're down to only being able to call people "hydra alts"
Awwwwà shnookums. It's ok. You just have to accept this as a fact of life. You see, just like you can find a list of people who didn't know that this is what happens in the tournaments, you can look through the thread and see people who loved it because it's so quintessentially EVE. And no, I'm afraid they're not hydra alts either ù in fact, at this point, I'm guessing that the Hydra players will quite proudly show off their alliance. This is another thing you have to accept.
So yes, your list is irrelevant, because it's just "some players" not "we players". And that's a fact. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
KTog Juriss
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:46:00 -
[157]
Agony paid nothing. Those calling for both teams to be thrown out have bit into some of the biggest troll bait ever seen. Well done Hydra. I just have to wonder how much money your alts made from bets on that match.
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Balsak
Minmatar Friends of Bigfoot
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:48:00 -
[158]
Originally by: KTog Juriss Agony paid nothing. Those calling for both teams to be thrown out have bit into some of the biggest troll bait ever seen. Well done Hydra. I just have to wonder how much money your alts made from bets on that match.
I was just thinking about how much money was made off the bets on this little turn of events.
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Bad Bobby
The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:49:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Balsak I was just thinking about how much money was made off the bets on this little turn of events.
Plenty.
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:52:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit You can read the names dear Hydra alt ?
Oh dear. You've figured that you have no argument, I take it since you're down to only being able to call people "hydra alts"
Awwwwà shnookums. It's ok. You just have to accept this as a fact of life. You see, just like you can find a list of people who didn't know that this is what happens in the tournaments, you can look through the thread and see people who loved it because it's so quintessentially EVE. And no, I'm afraid they're not hydra alts either ù in fact, at this point, I'm guessing that the Hydra players will quite proudly show off their alliance. This is another thing you have to accept.
So yes, your list is irrelevant, because it's just "some players" not "we players". And that's a fact.
Oh you changed your chit-chat. First thinking: "you" not "we", now "some". I told you from my opinion "we" who see this movement in second match a pathetic move is "not you".
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Tennents Supra
eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:55:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit You can read the names dear Hydra alt ?
Oh dear. You've figured that you have no argument, I take it since you're down to only being able to call people "hydra alts"
Awwwwà shnookums. It's ok. You just have to accept this as a fact of life. You see, just like you can find a list of people who didn't know that this is what happens in the tournaments, you can look through the thread and see people who loved it because it's so quintessentially EVE. And no, I'm afraid they're not hydra alts either ù in fact, at this point, I'm guessing that the Hydra players will quite proudly show off their alliance. This is another thing you have to accept.
So yes, your list is irrelevant, because it's just "some players" not "we players". And that's a fact.
Oh you changed your chit-chat. First thinking: "you" not "we", now "some". I told you from my opinion "we" who see this movement in second match a pathetic move is "not you".
Honourable Internet Spaceship Warrier cause might storm on Serious Bussiness Internet Spaceship Forums
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Destroperuk
DUCKWIG FLEET INC Auctoritas Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:56:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Swidgen This is the first news I've seen today about the tournament. Thankfully it will be the last. The fact these teams are not immediately disqualified is a disgrace, not a lulz fest.
At least this AT8 fiasco means I don't have to load Adobe Flash on my computer to watch. Adobe confirmed today that there are new exploits in the wild that can compromise your entire computer if you use Flash. There's a fix due for that around the same time as Incarna. Have fun and be sure to blame it on links to keyloggers the next time your account details are hacked!
And can we please stop with the flawed "sandbox" garbage? A sandbox is where children play with harmless stuff under close adult supervision. Eve is anything but. Find another term for it or stop pretending you speak English.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:57:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Oh you changed your chit-chat.
Nope.
Quote: First thinking: "you" not "we", now "some".
No. First "I" instead of "we" because "we" was connected to "àthe players". You're trying to redefine what I meant (or you've forgotten it) and trying to attack that strawman. Unfortunately, that still makes it a strawman.
Hun tried to redefine it to, but figured out that his "we" was already shattered, and sensibly left it alone. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Hun Jakuza
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:59:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Tennents Supra
Honourable Internet Spaceship Warrier cause might storm on Serious Bussiness Internet Spaceship Forums
You missed something. You told something for a Honourable Internet Spaceship Warrier, dear "I sold my pride for cheap ISK" warrior.
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Jimmi Bones
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:00:00 -
[165]
Get out of this thread tigers spirit
Great move Hyrdra
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Morel Nova
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:00:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Cearain Did agony pay the money?
all I'm saying is we got paid yes Reward small gang/solo pvp!
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Sextus Licinius
D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:01:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Cearain Did agony pay the money?
ya 3 bil, disgracefull tbh
"These people that we've wasted today are the finest human beings ever. When we'll rotate back in the world, we gonna miss not having anyone worth shooting...
Full Metal Jacket" |
Tennents Supra
eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:02:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Hun Jakuza
Originally by: Tennents Supra
Honourable Internet Spaceship Warrier cause might storm on Serious Bussiness Internet Spaceship Forums
You missed something. You told something for a Honourable Internet Spaceship Warrier, dear "I sold my pride for cheap ISK" warrior.
QFT
(though i'll let you into a lil sekrit, just between you and me mang, liek you know, no isk changed hands yeah?)
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Hun Jakuza
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:08:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Tennents Supra
Originally by: Hun Jakuza
Originally by: Tennents Supra
Honourable Internet Spaceship Warrier cause might storm on Serious Bussiness Internet Spaceship Forums
You missed something. You told something for a Honourable Internet Spaceship Warrier, dear "I sold my pride for cheap ISK" warrior.
QFT
(though i'll let you into a lil sekrit, just between you and me mang, liek you know, no isk changed hands yeah?)
OK "I sold my pride for cheap ISK" warrior.
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Lord Zekk
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:11:00 -
[170]
The amount of butthurt as already mentioned is astounding. Everything that happened, happened with the rules of the tournament. If you don't like it go talk to the CSM and see if they will do something about it. My bet is they won't. Why? Because this is Eve.
For those crying that this isn't in game, this isn't eve, it's a tournament, it should be decided by skill at PVP. You forget that Eve PVP is much broader than just bringing ships to a fight and blowing them up. Eve PVP is about winning any way within very limited boundaries.
Like it or not. This is Eve. The Devs saying so doesn't make it worse, it only reaffirms that this is the way it's meant to be. If you don't like the rules of a sport go watch another sport. You don't have the rules changed.
Lastly, if you want to cry about how this isn't the way it should be, you better be in you flameproof suit. Coz the guys who are coming after you have a lot of experience in C&P and CAOD. They will eat you alive.
We are recruiting. http://www.22ndbrdu.com In game channel: Arta-X |
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:11:00 -
[171]
I don't know, but I would suspect betting sites will not get much business anymore if they don't do something about deliberately thrown matches. Not sure what they can do really. This one was obvious but other scams may not be so obvious.
I wonder if this will just ruin betting on eve tournaments. Both sides see who can self destruct faster. Or just start shooting themselves with all gank setups. :)
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:11:00 -
[172]
I see there is a massive outrage about it over at the Assembly Hall forums. Link. --------
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Tennents Supra
eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:15:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Hun Jakuza
Originally by: Tennents Supra
Originally by: Hun Jakuza
Originally by: Tennents Supra
Honourable Internet Spaceship Warrier cause might storm on Serious Bussiness Internet Spaceship Forums
You missed something. You told something for a Honourable Internet Spaceship Warrier, dear "I sold my pride for cheap ISK" warrior.
QFT
(though i'll let you into a lil sekrit, just between you and me mang, liek you know, no isk changed hands yeah?)
OK "I sold my pride for cheap ISK" warrior.
Bet which one of us is laughing right now?
Smart isk isnt on you :brosef:
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Raquel Smith
Caldari Freedom-Technologies Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:16:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Balsak From an outsiders spectator view I can understand why people would not be happy with this turn of events. On the other hand from an Eve player and fan this is all part of the game and I loved it.
This. The tournament got very dull for the 5 minutes when each party worked out the money arrangement. As a spectator it sucks but as an Eve player I wish I had thought to pull that kind of move!
Brilliant.
-- Creator of The Ruby API Library |
LtCol Laurentius
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:17:00 -
[175]
Chatlog from the fight:
[ 2010.06.05 15:28:53 ] CCP Claw > The match in arena 2 will begin in 10 seconds [ 2010.06.05 15:28:58 ] CCP Claw > 5 [ 2010.06.05 15:28:59 ] CCP Claw > 4 [ 2010.06.05 15:29:00 ] CCP Claw > 3 [ 2010.06.05 15:29:01 ] CCP Claw > 2 [ 2010.06.05 15:29:02 ] CCP Claw > 1 [ 2010.06.05 15:29:04 ] CCP Claw > go [ 2010.06.05 15:33:52 ] Admiral Goberius > Agony I have an offer [ 2010.06.05 15:34:02 ] Admiral Goberius > for 1 bil isk now and 2 after the fight [ 2010.06.05 15:34:12 ] Admiral Goberius > we will self destruct all our ships [ 2010.06.05 15:34:24 ] Admiral Goberius > u can send the bil to chribba if hes online if u want [ 2010.06.05 15:34:29 ] Admiral Goberius > agony captain? [ 2010.06.05 15:35:01 ] Amber Saint > what's the timer for the match ? [ 2010.06.05 15:35:07 ] CCP Claw > 9 minutes [ 2010.06.05 15:35:07 ] Admiral Goberius > anyone in agony [ 2010.06.05 15:35:15 ] Admiral Goberius > reply here if u at leastgot the emssage? [ 2010.06.05 15:35:18 ] Admiral Goberius > 1 bil now 2 later [ 2010.06.05 15:35:30 ] Admiral Goberius > if trust issue u can send the inital bil to anyone trustable [ 2010.06.05 15:35:40 ] Amber Saint > please consider this agony [ 2010.06.05 15:35:43 ] Amber Saint > u have 5 mins [ 2010.06.05 15:37:05 ] Amber Saint > 3 minutes [ 2010.06.05 15:38:05 ] CCP Claw > Admiral Goberius destroyed for boundary violatin [ 2010.06.05 15:38:09 ] Amber Saint > ahahahahahahahah [ 2010.06.05 15:38:12 ] Admiral Goberius > [ 2010.06.05 15:38:23 ] Admiral Goberius > stay in grdi ****** eos [ 2010.06.05 15:38:27 ] Admiral Goberius > so bad [ 2010.06.05 15:38:46 ] Amber Saint > zapp [ 2010.06.05 15:38:52 ] Amber Saint > you have shown much honor [ 2010.06.05 15:38:55 ] Amber Saint > we will let you hold the field [ 2010.06.05 15:38:59 ] Zappapapa II > o7 [ 2010.06.05 15:39:07 ] Yamother > o7 [ 2010.06.05 15:39:38 ] CCP Claw > if youre oding this i can just blow you all up now [ 2010.06.05 15:39:41 ] CCP Claw > and save moving out of the arena [ 2010.06.05 15:39:45 ] Amber Saint > do it [ 2010.06.05 15:39:46 ] CCP Claw > do you concede, hydra? [ 2010.06.05 15:39:54 ] Admiral Goberius > yeah [ 2010.06.05 15:39:57 ] Admiral Goberius > can we have the ships back? [ 2010.06.05 15:39:59 ] Admiral Goberius > wer poor [ 2010.06.05 15:40:00 ] Zappapapa II > lol [ 2010.06.05 15:40:06 ] Amber Saint > zappoa just owned us [ 2010.06.05 15:40:07 ] Podcat > we who are about to die alute you [ 2010.06.05 15:40:26 ] Fofalus > 07 [ 2010.06.05 15:40:30 ] C7P9 > gf [ 2010.06.05 15:40:33 ] CCP Claw > I love Eve [ 2010.06.05 15:40:34 ] Count MonteCarlo > gf [ 2010.06.05 15:40:36 ] CCP Claw > for this reason [ 2010.06.05 15:40:36 ] CCP Claw > [ 2010.06.05 15:40:38 ] Admiral Goberius > o7 [ 2010.06.05 15:40:43 ] Yamother > o7 [ 2010.06.05 15:40:50 ] Oli Geist > o7 [ 2010.06.05 15:40:51 ] C7P9 > shud we go 2 exit beacon m8? [ 2010.06.05 15:40:51 ] CCP Claw > COngrats Agony [ 2010.06.05 15:40:55 ] CCP Claw > listento your gms [ 2010.06.05 15:40:56 ] Intigo > gf [ 2010.06.05 15:40:59 ] CCP Claw > listen to your gms* [ 2010.06.05 15:41:01 ] Amber Saint > **** WE LOST THE FIGHT [ 2010.06.05 15:41:03 ] C7P9 > ok ty m8 [ 2010.06.05 15:41:03 ] Admiral Goberius > GFGFGFGGF [ 2010.06.05 15:41:07 ] Amber Saint > gf [ 2010.06.05 15:41:08 ] Lumy > gfgfgfgf [ 2010.06.05 15:41:08 ] Tennents Supra > gf [ 2010.06.05 15:41:08 ] Amanda Starscream > gf [ 2010.06.05 15:41:09 ] C7P9 > i am bubbled its b1 [ 2010.06.05 15:41:10 ] Raimo > gfgfgf [ 2010.06.05 15:41:11 ] Podcat > GF HERO AGONY [ 2010.06.05 15:41:11 ] Raimo > gf
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Widemouth Deepthroat
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:18:00 -
[176]
BIG betting has cancelled all bet on this match and will be no refund I have heard in channel :D
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Bazman
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:25:00 -
[177]
This was a most hilarious turn of events, I was lolling, lolling alot |
Kewso
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:26:00 -
[178]
this so called tournament is just a joke anyhow. every year it gets worse and now is just a moronic farce.
its bad when ccp gets in on the metagaming also, but hell you'd think we'd be used to it how much ccp gets involved.
this isn't a real tournament though |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:27:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Widemouth Deepthroat BIG betting has cancelled all bet on this match and will be no refund I have heard in channel :D
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Hun Jakuza
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:27:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Tennents Supra Smart isk isnt on you :brosef:
I scammed you many times, so smart isk come to me, dont worry. But PvP tournament not equal with ISK farming in game, dear "I'm so cheap ISK" warrior.
I can give 3 billion ISK for your alliance, if you guys dont shot in the next tournament game. Prize after match.
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LtCol Laurentius
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:31:00 -
[181]
What happend after Goberius got destroyed for boundary violation left the entire AGONY team speachless tbh. We were going.... "WHAT are they DOING?" lol |
Tennents Supra
eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:34:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Hun Jakuza
Originally by: Tennents Supra Smart isk isnt on you :brosef:
I scammed you many times, so smart isk come to me, dont worry. But PvP tournament not equal with ISK farming in game, dear "I'm so cheap ISK" warrior.
I can give 3 billion ISK for your alliance, if you guys dont shot in the next tournament game. Prize after match.
Obligatory :
You Mad?
With added :
Son?
I'm off to eat and then I'm gonna watch Lord of the Rings on C4+1 (yea I know I've got it on DVD, but the adverts just give it that added extra IMO)
/me wanders off to leave Huan gentley simmering in his personal pot of anger essence |
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CCP Claw
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:35:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Kewso this so called tournament is just a joke anyhow. every year it gets worse and now is just a moronic farce.
its bad when ccp gets in on the metagaming also, but hell you'd think we'd be used to it how much ccp gets involved.
this isn't a real tournament though
14,000 viewers seem to disagree
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Hun Jakuza
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:38:00 -
[184]
Edited by: Hun Jakuza on 05/06/2010 18:39:37
Originally by: Tennents Supra
Originally by: Hun Jakuza
Originally by: Tennents Supra Smart isk isnt on you :brosef:
I scammed you many times, so smart isk come to me, dont worry. But PvP tournament not equal with ISK farming in game, dear "I'm so cheap ISK" warrior.
I can give 3 billion ISK for your alliance, if you guys dont shot in the next tournament game. Prize after match.
Obligatory :
You Mad?
With added :
Son?
I'm off to eat and then I'm gonna watch Lord of the Rings on C4+1 (yea I know I've got it on DVD, but the adverts just give it that added extra IMO)
/me wanders off to leave Huan gentley simmering in his personal pot of anger essence
You talk about too much, deal or not ? Cheap warrior ? 3 billions
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:40:00 -
[185]
Originally by: CCP Claw
Originally by: Kewso this so called tournament is just a joke anyhow. every year it gets worse and now is just a moronic farce.
its bad when ccp gets in on the metagaming also, but hell you'd think we'd be used to it how much ccp gets involved.
this isn't a real tournament though
14,000 viewers seem to disagree
It comes to something when even CCP devs can troll these people
Chatsubo RP Discussion
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:40:00 -
[186]
Mega props to that, I was really nervous and seeing that happen in local gave me a good laugh before our match.
lol'd hard ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Braskyte
StarShard Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:41:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Kewso this so called tournament is just a joke anyhow. every year it gets worse and now is just a moronic farce.
its bad when ccp gets in on the metagaming also, but hell you'd think we'd be used to it how much ccp gets involved.
this isn't a real tournament though
It's entertainment. Look at RL - everything is not what is used to be - the original visions were lost and pushed aside by whatever attracts the crowds. Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying its a good thing, on the contrary I found it rather a sad thing.
Here's some conspiracy theories for the end: Agony did not pay, but Hydra suicided anyway. Why? Well Hydra win anyway. Just for sayin that Agony bought their way into next phase of the tournament. Hydra being the cool kid and all - showing "mercy" to the enemy, showing how cool they are as they will still make it to next phase and most of all Internet space ship Honour!!! Agony should have gone out of boundaries or self destructed - not take charity... They loose internet space ship honour.
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Zervun
Amarr hirr
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:59:00 -
[188]
Nice drama, perfect entertainment and a great example of Eve and the general randomness and player driven storylines. This could not have happened in any other MMO. Nice one everyone involved, including CCP for creating an environment that constantly surprises.
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LtCol Laurentius
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2010.06.05 19:00:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Braskyte Here's some conspiracy theories for the end: Agony did not pay, but Hydra suicided anyway. Why? Well Hydra win anyway. Just for sayin that Agony bought their way into next phase of the tournament. Hydra being the cool kid and all - showing "mercy" to the enemy, showing how cool they are as they will still make it to next phase and most of all Internet space ship Honour!!! Agony should have gone out of boundaries or self destructed - not take charity... They loose internet space ship honour.
I dunno. Hydra did what they did without any agreement in any shape or form. But 1) getting an "easy" opponent in the next round + the "coolfactor" of winning the entire tourney despite self-destruction to a loss in the first round seems plausible - given the personalities in HYDRA As for us loosing internet spaceship hounour... well, I guess we just have to live with the shame
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MoHawk Nephilium
THE Perfectly Insane Tactical Unison Allied Forces
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Posted - 2010.06.05 19:02:00 -
[190]
Originally by: LtCol Laurentius What happend after Goberius got destroyed for boundary violation left the entire AGONY team speachless tbh. We were going.... "WHAT are they DOING?" lol
He was too busy making comments about "trolls" on the forums hehehe
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.05 19:06:00 -
[191]
Hm i have a nice idea for sandbox.
It's time to pay down some other team players and when time coming they will shoting own players in match. Welcome in eve.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.06.05 19:08:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Hm i have a nice idea for sandbox.
It's time to pay down some other team players and when time coming they will shoting own players in match. Welcome in eve.
Nothing new. Already happened. The team with the traitor won anyway.
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Braskyte
StarShard Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.05 19:08:00 -
[193]
Originally by: LtCol Laurentius
I dunno. Hydra did what they did without any agreement in any shape or form. But 1) getting an "easy" opponent in the next round + the "coolfactor" of winning the entire tourney despite self-destruction to a loss in the first round seems plausible - given the personalities in HYDRA As for us loosing internet spaceship hounour... well, I guess we just have to live with the shame
Thats true:P Just gonna mark Hydra in my little purple book as loosing some virtual honor if they in fact went for the "easier opponent in next round" tactic.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.06.05 19:08:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Hm i have a nice idea for sandbox.
It's time to pay down some other team players and when time coming they will shoting own players in match. Welcome in eve.
Sure, go, do it! It'll be a laugh.
You only need to wave enough cash around and someone will be happy to oblige. --------
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Destroperuk
DUCKWIG FLEET INC Auctoritas Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.05 19:10:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Hm i have a nice idea for sandbox.
It's time to pay down some other team players and when time coming they will shoting own players in match. Welcome in eve.
This already happened.
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Othran
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.06.05 19:31:00 -
[196]
Superbly played really. That one will stay in peoples' memories for a long time.
Can't fault Hydra - took Agony apart, played the metagame wonderfully and are now (rightly) the talk of the tournament.
Well played guys, really very well played
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MoHawk Nephilium
THE Perfectly Insane Tactical Unison Allied Forces
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Posted - 2010.06.05 20:05:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Othran Superbly played really. That one will stay in peoples' memories for a long time.
Can't fault Hydra - took Agony apart, played the metagame wonderfully and are now (rightly) the talk of the tournament.
Well played guys, really very well played
And to think, it took PL's winning bomber set up to do it... How original
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Tommie Gunn
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Posted - 2010.06.05 20:17:00 -
[198]
I'm confused, who was the winner? Pandemic reloaded? or was it Hydra League?
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Amarr Supremacist
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Posted - 2010.06.05 20:20:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Tommie Gunn I'm confused, who was the winner? Pandemic reloaded? or was it Hydra League?
Hahahaahahahahaaa.
Originally by: MoHawk Nephilium
Originally by: Othran Superbly played really. That one will stay in peoples' memories for a long time.
Can't fault Hydra - took Agony apart, played the metagame wonderfully and are now (rightly) the talk of the tournament.
Well played guys, really very well played
And to think, it took PL's winning bomber set up to do it... How original
Hahahaahahahaaa. ____________ Intigo - go visit www.eve-arena.com for the best Battleclinic killboard replacement yet! |
Thresh Avery
Best Path Inc. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 20:59:00 -
[200]
Originally by: MoHawk Nephilium
Originally by: Othran Superbly played really. That one will stay in peoples' memories for a long time.
Can't fault Hydra - took Agony apart, played the metagame wonderfully and are now (rightly) the talk of the tournament.
Well played guys, really very well played
And to think, it took PL's winning bomber set up to do it... How original
Whoops, it wasn't that much like PL's winning bomber set up though, you silly sausage.
Unless you class using several bombers to be the same as PL's setup from last year, which it's not. Also, Gobbins actually came up with the original bomber setup in AT7, so if you think it was the same, it's totally acceptable for them to use.
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AkJon Ferguson
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Posted - 2010.06.05 21:10:00 -
[201]
The attention whoring aspect was lame. Especially the poorly photoshopped 'evidence'. The announcers stating repeatedly that Agony had paid ISK when it turns out indisputably that they hadn't is something that should have been avoided.
If you haven't figured it out already, Hydra planned this well in advance and bet against themselves. Not very original (see the Jesus vs Satan South Park episode.) The 3B was supposed to be a bonus but Agony didn't cough up so they had no choice but to self-destruct anyway.
To discourage this sort of crap in the future it would be nice if this tournament was set up like every other tournament I've ever heard of where the top teams are matched up against the weaker teams, not against each other. You should be able to earn a weak draw in the second round, not be punished for doing well in the first round.
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MoHawk Nephilium
THE Perfectly Insane Tactical Unison Allied Forces
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Posted - 2010.06.05 21:11:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Thresh Avery
Originally by: MoHawk Nephilium
Originally by: Othran Superbly played really. That one will stay in peoples' memories for a long time.
Can't fault Hydra - took Agony apart, played the metagame wonderfully and are now (rightly) the talk of the tournament.
Well played guys, really very well played
And to think, it took PL's winning bomber set up to do it... How original
Whoops, it wasn't that much like PL's winning bomber set up though, you silly sausage.
Unless you class using several bombers to be the same as PL's setup from last year, which it's not. Also, Gobbins actually came up with the original bomber setup in AT7, so if you think it was the same, it's totally acceptable for them to use.
What do I know, I'm just a noob, & now a hungery noob, thnxs :)
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Spacetrucker46
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Posted - 2010.06.05 21:40:00 -
[203]
Originally by: CCP Claw
Originally by: Kewso this so called tournament is just a joke anyhow. every year it gets worse and now is just a moronic farce.
its bad when ccp gets in on the metagaming also, but hell you'd think we'd be used to it how much ccp gets involved.
this isn't a real tournament though
14,000 viewers seem to disagree
I find samless that you as DEV off eve take that cant off playing how gone tel me now that rest is not also fixt Claw
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Hester Shaw
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Posted - 2010.06.05 21:43:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Spacetrucker46
I find samless that you as DEV off eve take that cant off playing how gone tel me now that rest is not also fixt Claw
Lol wut.
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Villa Wolfsbane
Amarr IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 21:46:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Spacetrucker46
I find samless that you as DEV off eve take that cant off playing how gone tel me now that rest is not also fixt Claw
Your post left just one question unanswered.
That is - Just what were you trying to say?
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krytan
Amarr Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.06.05 22:11:00 -
[206]
THAT WAS AWESOME!
I doubt they bet against themselves, that was simply superior tactics. If they did take the bookies for a ride, even better. In the end it's about being the last team on the field for crazy isk, bragging rights and 50 OMFG BPCs. If you can move forward and avoid a powerhouse to get one step closer, YOU SHOULD! These guys get it...
For the team that gets bumped off because of Agony's gift, well, you have no business being so close on points in the first place. |
Ken Plante
Eternal Perseverance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 22:13:00 -
[207]
Props that was hilarious....
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.06.05 23:29:00 -
[208]
Was expecting hilarious antics from Hydra Reloaded. It's only the first day and they've already exceeded my expectations, nice. - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant |
Ohh Yeah
The Compass Reloaded
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Posted - 2010.06.05 23:33:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Vaal Erit exceeded
I see what you did there.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2010.06.05 23:34:00 -
[210]
[ 2010.06.05 15:41:02 ] Amber Saint > **** WE LOST THE FIGHT Absolutely made my day ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Shade Millith
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.06.06 00:16:00 -
[211]
The only reason people are complaining about this is because this is the most public occurance of metagaming in the tourny.
People, wake up, the tourny has have backstabbing/metagaming for all of it's tournaments, you just haven't heard about it because it's usually behind closed doors.
It's EVE, get over it ------------------------
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.06 00:21:00 -
[212]
Edited by: Fitz Chivalry on 06/06/2010 00:20:58
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig holy **** this is like the holy grail of trolldom
- Gob
Looks like Zoon was wrong about you - its not all about the ego.
You could have won and taken a famous victory, instead you turned your back on the w1n and gave hope to those that needed it.
Bravo, sir, Bravo.
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Nagapito
Gallente Victim Support
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Posted - 2010.06.06 00:21:00 -
[213]
Its just nice to see who are most of the guys whining about this move!(Or their alts... Please, have some courage and post with your mains!!!)
Ppl are upset just coz this happened in front of their eyes!?!? If all this was set on a private convo and we only know this a few days later, no one would complain! And I say this coz this happened a lot in previous tournaments and no one complained! How many times he saw good teams getting on field just the worst fit for the battle and loose against weaker teams? Or we could talk about the previous tournament where big alliances created alt alliances and paied the 2 bil so they can had a higher chance of getting on the torney. Or selling their spot on torney for highest bidder...
I tell you why some ppl are raging about this: They didnt had the idea first!!!
It was a amazing match, I was loving it and when the commentator talked about the ransom I just laugh of hilarious and spectacular move from Garmon! It was great and I bet 90% of ppl loved it too! The other 10%, are the jealous ones who didn't had the opportunity to do it!
ps: In my opinion, it was the best match. How many of you sayed that Hydra was going to get stomped when you saw the fleets composition? And if they didnt self-destruct they would had win flawless!!! Its not every group of players that can do that!
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Kyusoath Orillian
Haters Gonna Hate
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Posted - 2010.06.06 00:24:00 -
[214]
i love you garmon . i want you inside me . you and your alliance full of your alts.
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Tennents Supra
eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.06 00:49:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Hun Jakuza Edited by: Hun Jakuza on 05/06/2010 18:39:37
Originally by: Tennents Supra
Originally by: Hun Jakuza
Originally by: Tennents Supra Smart isk isnt on you :brosef:
I scammed you many times, so smart isk come to me, dont worry. But PvP tournament not equal with ISK farming in game, dear "I'm so cheap ISK" warrior.
I can give 3 billion ISK for your alliance, if you guys dont shot in the next tournament game. Prize after match.
Obligatory :
You Mad?
With added :
Son?
I'm off to eat and then I'm gonna watch Lord of the Rings on C4+1 (yea I know I've got it on DVD, but the adverts just give it that added extra IMO)
/me wanders off to leave Huan gentley simmering in his personal pot of anger essence
You talk about too much, deal or not ? Cheap warrior ? 3 billions
3 billions? I make that in my sleep.
Go away and add a few more zero's to that (and by a few, I mean a lot) and we'll consider it (and by consider, I mean laugh at you even more).
Fly safe Mr Angry Huan Hung Low
o/
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Baka Lakadaka
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.06 01:10:00 -
[216]
Hydra seem to have played this rather well.
1) Hydra get an 'easier' opponent in round 2 and start off with 85 points. 2) Agony appears to have done wrong, which for an Alliance that trades on reputation is rather bad. 3) Agony get a 'tougher' opponent in round 2, despite being soundly beaten in round one. 4) As a psychological warfare tactic, this will take some work for the Agony Team to recognise and deal with.
Don't despair though, Agony have been through worse.
'easier' and 'tougher' are relative terms and refer to winners/losers from round 1. It's entirely possible that Karma will prevail and Hydra might just get the toughest of the losing teams.
Also: examine the chatlogs and the posted wallet images carefully. The evidence is there. Don't take everything at face value and question the motives behind these being posted. Look at the evidence objectively and make up your own minds. Me telling you Agony didn't pay isn't going to convince anyone.
______________________ Agony Unleashed Home of the PvP University |
StinkRay
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Posted - 2010.06.06 02:05:00 -
[217]
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Mercurial Blood
eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.06 02:15:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Baka Lakadaka Hydra seem to have played this rather well.
1) Hydra get an 'easier' opponent in round 2 and start off with 85 points. 2) Agony appears to have done wrong, which for an Alliance that trades on reputation is rather bad. 3) Agony get a 'tougher' opponent in round 2, despite being soundly beaten in round one. 4) As a psychological warfare tactic, this will take some work for the Agony Team to recognise and deal with.
Don't despair though, Agony have been through worse.
'easier' and 'tougher' are relative terms and refer to winners/losers from round 1. It's entirely possible that Karma will prevail and Hydra might just get the toughest of the losing teams.
Also: examine the chatlogs and the posted wallet images carefully. The evidence is there. Don't take everything at face value and question the motives behind these being posted. Look at the evidence objectively and make up your own minds. Me telling you Agony didn't pay isn't going to convince anyone.
Look bro, theres no shame paying for a win, but I understand if you want to cover it up. There is a lot of stigma connected to doing it . But don't worry man, we here in HYDRA won't judge, we love all of god's creations equally, and we love you guys especially for your loyal patronage.
-- Merc
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Donny Maurasi
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Posted - 2010.06.06 05:13:00 -
[219]
If nothing else the tears in this topic are great..
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Corbeau Lenoir
ZER0. IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.06 07:38:00 -
[220]
Awesome move. Delicious tears. GJ Hydra.
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Shaemell Buttleson
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.06 08:35:00 -
[221]
Originally by: MoHawk Nephilium
Originally by: Othran Superbly played really. That one will stay in peoples' memories for a long time.
Can't fault Hydra - took Agony apart, played the metagame wonderfully and are now (rightly) the talk of the tournament.
Well played guys, really very well played
And to think, it took PL's winning bomber set up to do it... How original
Gobbies had a hardon for bombers before they could warp cloaked and used to run gangs with them regularly way back.
I don't know for sure because I didn't have alot to do with him during his time in PL but I'd put ISK on the fact he came up with the idea of the Bomber setup.
* Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. - CCP Ildoge
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Dodgy Past
Amarr Debitum Naturae BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.06.06 09:27:00 -
[222]
Edited by: Dodgy Past on 06/06/2010 09:30:59
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Widemouth Deepthroat BIG betting has cancelled all bet on this match and will be no refund I have heard in channel :D
Anyone taking bets that they were in on it?
This is the most likely theory as well.
Guessing they decided sand bagging was an option and found someone that would pay them to do it, loving the opportunity to troll Agony's e-honour.
To the Agony guys, take a leaf out of Teadaze's book and roll with the joke, anyone who knows you guys will stick up for you. Getting too uptight will do more harm than good.
Mixing the individual solo talents in Hydra with Gobbins is a scary combination, right now I'd say they are potential favourites. PL vs. Hydra final would be amasing, though hoping we get there instead of PL. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- you seem determined to turn it into ******* Hollyoaks for neckbeards. |
RedLion
Caldari State Constructions
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Posted - 2010.06.06 09:47:00 -
[223]
one for the history books
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Ecatherina W
Gallente AAA.FSI Holding Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.06.06 10:36:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Christina Bamar For the record Agony did NOT pay any money to Hydra, they did what they did of their own volition.
Your word should be worth more than the word of any member of that snake-organization. Knowing Agony, there is no way you guys would pay for a win. Any win.
Knowing Hydra - and sadly, having thought better of Gob years ago - is the other side of the coin. Taking their word would be hard for anyone. And that they managed to fake their proof so badly is just making me laugh. At Hydra, in case anyone was uncertain.
***** Empress of the Multiverse *****
CEO of AAA.FSI Holding |
Mr Rive
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.06.06 10:48:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson
Originally by: MoHawk Nephilium
Originally by: Othran Superbly played really. That one will stay in peoples' memories for a long time.
Can't fault Hydra - took Agony apart, played the metagame wonderfully and are now (rightly) the talk of the tournament.
Well played guys, really very well played
And to think, it took PL's winning bomber set up to do it... How original
Gobbies had a hardon for bombers before they could warp cloaked and used to run gangs with them regularly way back.
I don't know for sure because I didn't have alot to do with him during his time in PL but I'd put ISK on the fact he came up with the idea of the Bomber setup.
I cant remember who first started conceptualizing using bombers as the primary ship. We might even have stolen it.
Gobbins did come up with the final setup though.
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Amarr Supremacist
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Posted - 2010.06.06 11:35:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Ecatherina W
Originally by: Christina Bamar For the record Agony did NOT pay any money to Hydra, they did what they did of their own volition.
Your word should be worth more than the word of any member of that snake-organization. Knowing Agony, there is no way you guys would pay for a win. Any win.
Knowing Hydra - and sadly, having thought better of Gob years ago - is the other side of the coin. Taking their word would be hard for anyone. And that they managed to fake their proof so badly is just making me laugh. At Hydra, in case anyone was uncertain.
Dance, puppet, dance~ ____________ Intigo - go visit www.eve-arena.com for the best Battleclinic killboard replacement yet! |
Easley Thames
The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.06 12:23:00 -
[227]
Originally by: RedLion one for the history books
Exactly what I was thinking, and by far the best reason to do it.
Money and "easy brackets" aside, they've created an instant-classic in tournament history that will be remembered for years. --------------------
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Maylin Li
Caldari interimo
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Posted - 2010.06.06 12:43:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Ecatherina W
Your word should be worth more than the word of any member of that snake-organization. Knowing Agony, there is no way you guys would pay for a win. Any win.
Knowing Hydra - and sadly, having thought better of Gob years ago - is the other side of the coin. Taking their word would be hard for anyone. And that they managed to fake their proof so badly is just making me laugh. At Hydra, in case anyone was uncertain.
Yeah, its not like Hydra has rules against dishonoring 1vs1s and ransoms, and its not like AAA dishonors them, nope, definately not, nothing to see here, move along...
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Thor Hun
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Posted - 2010.06.06 13:11:00 -
[229]
Best winners fight best winners in early rounds??? Sounds ******ed to me... Hats of to Hydra,as for the clowns at ccp jumping on the bandwagon 14000 views he shouts,not that they were already watching.The format is floored back to the drawing board and keep your replys too WITHING THE RULES...
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Baske
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
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Posted - 2010.06.06 13:39:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Nagapito Its just nice to see who are most of the guys whining about this move!(Or their alts... Please, have some courage and post with your mains!!!)
Ppl are upset just coz this happened in front of their eyes!?!? If all this was set on a private convo and we only know this a few days later, no one would complain! And I say this coz this happened a lot in previous tournaments and no one complained! How many times he saw good teams getting on field just the worst fit for the battle and loose against weaker teams? Or we could talk about the previous tournament where big alliances created alt alliances and paied the 2 bil so they can had a higher chance of getting on the torney. Or selling their spot on torney for highest bidder...
I tell you why some ppl are raging about this: They didnt had the idea first!!!
It was a amazing match, I was loving it and when the commentator talked about the ransom I just laugh of hilarious and spectacular move from Garmon! It was great and I bet 90% of ppl loved it too! The other 10%, are the jealous ones who didn't had the opportunity to do it!
ps: In my opinion, it was the best match. How many of you sayed that Hydra was going to get stomped when you saw the fleets composition? And if they didnt self-destruct they would had win flawless!!! Its not every group of players that can do that!
If this happened in private convo, everyone would ask "What the bleep is going on?" Everyone would complain / ask questions, not noone.
Think McFly, think !!!
It's was not like a match which maybe were fixed, it was obvious to even a 5 year old kid that something was wrong here.
Smart move or not a smart move.....I wont comment on that. I will only say that with this event, the honor of winning AT8 has dropped considerably IMO.
Shame on both teams I say !
PS. This IS my main :)
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Shiroi Okami
Gallente Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.06 14:10:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Kyusoath Orillian i love you garmon . i want you inside me . you and your alliance full of your alts.
Confirming that we as an alliance are simply an army of Garmon alts, and the Agony team was in fact trounced by a single Welshman with a lot of monitors.
That aside, this thread just keeps on giving. HYDRA PROVAIL
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Olivor
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Posted - 2010.06.06 14:37:00 -
[232]
Agony have so much e-honour that they will stand aside and let the 33rd place team go through next week though yeah?
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Thresh Avery
Best Path Inc. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.06 17:04:00 -
[233]
Edited by: Thresh Avery on 06/06/2010 17:04:39
Originally by: MoHawk Nephilium What do I know, I'm just a noob, & now a hungery noob, thnxs :)
BTW, your guys did a nice job today ATA-BOY
Understandable mistake to make, i was just trying to set the record straight, so sorry if it came across a bit rude or something.
And thanks!
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente League of Gentlemen
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Posted - 2010.06.07 04:42:00 -
[234]
So...
did I miss something where EVE is about honor and not, as I've heard, "a game of Machiavelli, alts, politics, and accounting"?
Regarding high-sec mining:
Originally by: AmarrettoDiAmarr 3-4 million ISK/hr is perhaps .15 0r .20 US$/hr; not quite prison wages and you are around less honest people.
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Taicha Serrano
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Posted - 2010.06.07 05:19:00 -
[235]
Edited by: Taicha Serrano on 07/06/2010 05:19:59 whoops, you missed something.
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Mr Management
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Posted - 2010.06.07 16:12:00 -
[236]
Boring ....... wanted to see people fighting to the death ..... the rest is just poltical rubbish.
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Maylin Li
Caldari interimo
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Posted - 2010.06.07 16:18:00 -
[237]
It's not really "political rubbish", it's more of gaming the system to have the biggest chance of going through to the finals.
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DONJUAN v
Tarnak inc. The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2010.06.07 16:29:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Halaster Blackcloak Everyone saying they should be disqualified should go back to WoW
did you feel orignal when you typed this?
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Spacetrucker46
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Posted - 2010.06.07 16:37:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Villa Wolfsbane
Originally by: Spacetrucker46
I find samless that you as DEV off eve take that cant off playing how gone tel me now that rest is not also fixt Claw
Your post left just one question unanswered.
That is - Just what were you trying to say?
that I find this cant off play not belong in tournament or you win or loss when you not can take the lost stop play tournaments so I find take both out this tournament and when dev agree on this cabt of playing then stiop with thos tournaments
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Shotty1135
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Posted - 2010.06.07 16:43:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Baka Lakadaka Hydra seem to have played this rather well.
Me telling you Agony didn't pay isn't going to convince anyone.
Now I'm not sure what really happened, but if you truely were getting metagamed by Hydra why didn't you order your Proteus to fly out of arena once you realized what was happening. You easily could have tossed the match before Hydra was able to. So quit it with the pity, you'll get none here. You controlled your fate and decided to take the cheap win, now you're realizing it probably wasn't the best decision. Deal with it
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DaDutchDude
Minmatar Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.07 17:02:00 -
[241]
Edited by: DaDutchDude on 07/06/2010 17:03:24 I wasn't home to watch the match live, but I seriously lolled when I heard what had happened. Well played Hydra, well played. Probably the most ironic thing is that Agony will meet a highly ranked opponent in the second round, while Hydra gets a much lower ranked one.
Originally by: Shotty1135 Now I'm not sure what really happened, but if you truly were getting metagamed by Hydra why didn't you order your Proteus to fly out of arena once you realized what was happening. You easily could have tossed the match before Hydra was able to. So quit it with the pity, you'll get none here. You controlled your fate and decided to take the cheap win, now you're realizing it probably wasn't the best decision. Deal with it
The only thing that is somewhat regrettable for Agony is the fact that some people will believe we actually payed Hydra, but we're confident that people who actually know Agony and Hydra won't believe that. Also, I don't think anybody in Agony would seriously consider throwing a match because our opponent is throwing it; something to do with a gift, a horse and its mouth. No, we don't need pity, so if that is what you thought Baka was after, you were mistaken. And I personally find the people overreacting to this quite funny.
The only thing we might be embarrassed about in this whole deal is our actual performance in the match, because we got stomped pretty badly. _____________________________________
Agony Unleashed (home of PVP University)
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.06.07 17:23:00 -
[242]
HYRDA WIL PROVAIL
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.06.07 17:41:00 -
[243]
Not content with trolling the forums, Hydra Reloaded have moved on to trolling Alliance Tournaments
Well played, Hydra. Convincing performance and good tactics points wise.
To all others, you're not even competing, so STFU. If you don't like it, don't watch. Or, here's a better idea, how about taking part yourselves and making stuff like this doesn't happen in your 'honourable' tournament? Guess not. I't easier to complain and whine and cry than it is to HTFU and do something about it. (Overreaction win ITT)
Originally by: salva dore Cloak should not be AFK solution. What do you think?
Originally by: AFK Cloaker
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Doppleganger
Minmatar Imperium Technologies Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.06.07 17:59:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Mr Rive
Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson
Originally by: MoHawk Nephilium
Originally by: Othran Superbly played really. That one will stay in peoples' memories for a long time.
Can't fault Hydra - took Agony apart, played the metagame wonderfully and are now (rightly) the talk of the tournament.
Well played guys, really very well played
And to think, it took PL's winning bomber set up to do it... How original
Gobbies had a hardon for bombers before they could warp cloaked and used to run gangs with them regularly way back.
I don't know for sure because I didn't have alot to do with him during his time in PL but I'd put ISK on the fact he came up with the idea of the Bomber setup.
I cant remember who first started conceptualizing using bombers as the primary ship. We might even have stolen it.
Gobbins did come up with the final setup though.
Even though it was not the same setup as used nowadays, I thought Hun Reloaded used an all bomber with 2 logi ships to win back in AT4. I remember how amazed I was with their 2 logi pilots to keep all those bombers alive.
To the thread I don't know why so many ppl are suprised ... matches have been thrown in the past, just a slightly different version was used this time. This is all in the spirit of EVE. I have watched all the previous alliance tournys and no suprises that something like this happened and not disappointed either.
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Idle Bow
Gallente Genesis Claymores
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Posted - 2010.06.07 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kewso this so called tournament is just a joke anyhow. every year it gets worse and now is just a moronic farce.
its bad when ccp gets in on the metagaming also, but hell you'd think we'd be used to it how much ccp gets involved.
this isn't a real tournament though
I do not agree. If CCP disqualified these guys that could be called involvement. What I see here is lol'ing together with the rest of community who see it funny. :) The more I read this thread the more funny I see it. :D
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Kadash Erale
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Posted - 2010.06.07 21:38:00 -
[246]
Truth to be told after reading this, if i am correct and people say Hydra will meet a much lower ranked opponent compared ot Agony. It is in my belief during the matchday that Hydra will think them as easy prey, don't play att full capacity and get stomped themselves. Underestimating an opponent comes before the fall.
Also i'm rooting for Agony which seems to be good sports about this and staying fairly calm. Good luck in the next match both of you nonetheless.
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Amanda Starscream
eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.07 22:00:00 -
[247]
9 pages of tears. can we make 10?
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Odin'Asgard
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Posted - 2010.06.07 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: Odin''Asgard on 07/06/2010 22:08:00 I think what Hydra did was smart, Agony was dumb as hell. Hydra just showed all of us that Agony has no honor and will sell out at the smallest opportunity at getting an other shot to the tournament. If they make it, they are going to have to face Hydra at some point again, in which they will lose just as bad. So what do we have at the end, people know that hydra won the first match, they will win the second match too if they get to fight again. Agony ends up losing 2 full sets of tournament teams plus 3 billion isk and lots of respect for trying to do their talking with isk instead of their guns. Even if they win the tournament(a major if), everybody will say thay they bought it out with cash so what good is it?
Agony should have said F-off to Hydra and charge with their last ship dying guns blazing. They would have get kudo's from everyone, Hydra would look stupid to even bring up such non-sense, and Agony would have saved 3 bil plus the other set of ships they are gonna lose later on.
Nice risk taking per Hydra.
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Idle Bow
Gallente Genesis Claymores
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Posted - 2010.06.07 22:07:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Amanda Starscream 9 pages of tears. can we make 10?
Lets try Amanda, I believe we can do it :D
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DaDutchDude
Minmatar Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.07 22:09:00 -
[250]
Originally by: Amanda Starscream 9 pages of tears. can we make 10?
Yes we can _____________________________________
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Vjorn Angannon
Fleet Escort Services
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Posted - 2010.06.08 07:13:00 -
[251]
OMG!!! Agony has no honor!!!!
OMG!!! Hydra is too skeered to fight top teams, thus have no honor!!!!
This tourney is such a farce because of the actions of these 2 teams, and the lack of action on CCP to ban them from AT8!!!!!
I QUIT!!!!
tears Tears tEars teArs teaRs tearS TEARS
fake edit:
Originally by: Amanda Starscream 9 pages of tears. can we make 10?
Just trying to do my part for page 10
On a more serious note, thanks to both teams for introducing this newb to the concept of metagaming....
and I wish BOTH teams best of luck in the next 2 weeks
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Mr Yand
Amarr Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.06.08 09:14:00 -
[252]
Its actually a defect in the tournament structure. There is a reason why, for example, the world cup has first placed teams of one group go against second places of another.
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Amber Saint
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.08 09:22:00 -
[253]
Just to clear things up, as I've got some friends in Agony that are awesome, and they really care about people thinking that Agony payed for their win
Agony didnt pay us anything, and if you believed otherwise, especially after morel's awesome photoshop attempt, you're a ******
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Amarr Supremacist
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Posted - 2010.06.08 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Amber Saint Just to clear things up, as I've got some friends in Agony that are awesome, and they really care about people thinking that Agony payed for their win
Agony didnt pay us anything, and if you believed otherwise, especially after morel's awesome photoshop attempt, you're a ******
AGONY paid Amber Saint to post this.
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2010.06.08 13:55:00 -
[255]
Now try to get into the finals ... without winning either qualifier! *)
*) This may require more bribery since you'll have to get one of the 32 teams with at least one win to resign.
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fmercury
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.08 18:59:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Spacetrucker46
Originally by: Villa Wolfsbane
Originally by: Spacetrucker46
I find samless that you as DEV off eve take that cant off playing how gone tel me now that rest is not also fixt Claw
Your post left just one question unanswered.
That is - Just what were you trying to say?
that I find this cant off play not belong in tournament or you win or loss when you not can take the lost stop play tournaments so I find take both out this tournament and when dev agree on this cabt of playing then stiop with thos tournaments
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Rolare
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.06.08 19:37:00 -
[257]
God damn! That would have been awesome to watch xD
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Podcat
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.08 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: Podcat on 08/06/2010 20:27:16
Originally by: Amber Saint Just to clear things up, as I've got some friends in Agony that are awesome, and they really care about people thinking that Agony payed for their win
Agony didnt pay us anything, and if you believed otherwise, especially after morel's awesome photoshop attempt, you're a ******
stop lying garmon just because TeaDaze sent you another 3 bil. there is no proof it was tampered with!!! And if it was, it was a professional job so you wouldnt be able to tell the difference anyway.
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2010.06.08 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 08/06/2010 22:48:13 Will be fun if hydra actually looses the next match
Originally by: lollerwaffle Not content with trolling the forums, Hydra Reloaded have moved on to trolling Alliance Tournaments
Well played, Hydra. Convincing performance and good tactics points wise.
To all others, you're not even competing, so STFU. If you don't like it, don't watch. Or, here's a better idea, how about taking part yourselves and making stuff like this doesn't happen in your 'honourable' tournament? Guess not. I't easier to complain and whine and cry than it is to HTFU and do something about it. (Overreaction win ITT)
Do we have a hydra wannabe?
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.09 00:01:00 -
[260]
Originally by: Amarr Supremacist
Originally by: Amber Saint Just to clear things up, as I've got some friends in Agony that are awesome, and they really care about people thinking that Agony payed for their win
Agony didnt pay us anything, and if you believed otherwise, especially after morel's awesome photoshop attempt, you're a ******
AGONY paid Amber Saint to post this.
Bunch of immoral bastards.
I lol'd irl.
Thanks. I needed that.
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Aerilis
Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.09 00:29:00 -
[261]
OMG can you stop saying "this is eve hahah we're cool cuz we have sandboxes and scams and bribes"
That was a very eve-thing to do, but it didn't happen because this is eve
It happened because CCP uses a **** tournament ranking system.
This is why in REAL tournaments the best ranked gets matched with the lowest ranked and so on.
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DaDutchDude
Minmatar Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.09 04:48:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Amber Saint Just to clear things up, as I've got some friends in Agony that are awesome, and they really care about people thinking that Agony payed for their win
Agony didnt pay us anything, and if you believed otherwise, especially after morel's awesome photoshop attempt, you're a ******
You've got friends in Agony, those cheating bastards???
Okay, now I'm just trolling myself .... is this page 10 yet? _____________________________________
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Mercurial Blood
eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.09 05:09:00 -
[263]
Edited by: Mercurial Blood on 09/06/2010 05:09:24
Originally by: Aerilis OMG can you stop saying "this is eve hahah we're cool cuz we have sandboxes and scams and bribes"
That was a very eve-thing to do, but it didn't happen because this is eve
It happened because CCP uses a **** tournament ranking system.
This is why in REAL tournaments the best ranked gets matched with the lowest ranked and so on.
This guy here definitely ain't feeling the lone wolf in a sandbox vibe we got going on right now. Ya just gotta chill and let in the positive chi maaaaaaan.
Edit: Page 10 yet?
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Baka Lakadaka
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.09 05:16:00 -
[264]
Originally by: Odin'Asgard
I think what Hydra did was smart, Agony was dumb as hell.
Yep....Agony is the worst Alliance in the meta-game.
Really, I'm just trying to get to page 10 and wanted an excuse to post. ______________________ Agony Unleashed Home of the PvP University |
Concordokken Disco
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Posted - 2010.06.09 05:54:00 -
[265]
This is the 23rd post on this page.
Pages have 30 posts.
We're so close to 10 pages - keep getting trolled please.
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Master Technique
Club Bear HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.09 06:01:00 -
[266]
When we joined, I heard tell of some "provil"ing that was going to take place. I believe this qualifies.
Awesome first match guys, can't wait to watch the team in the coming weekends. ________________ Master Technique Latest Video:H:TC
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Gingger
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.09 11:11:00 -
[267]
Well done Hydra.
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TeaDaze
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Posted - 2010.06.09 12:00:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Podcat stop lying garmon just because TeaDaze sent you another 3 bil. there is no proof it was tampered with!!! And if it was, it was a professional job so you wouldnt be able to tell the difference anyway.
Never stop posting
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Shiroi Okami
Gallente Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.09 14:17:00 -
[269]
Originally by: fmercury
Originally by: Spacetrucker46
Originally by: Villa Wolfsbane
Originally by: Spacetrucker46
I find samless that you as DEV off eve take that cant off playing how gone tel me now that rest is not also fixt Claw
Your post left just one question unanswered.
That is - Just what were you trying to say?
that I find this cant off play not belong in tournament or you win or loss when you not can take the lost stop play tournaments so I find take both out this tournament and when dev agree on this cabt of playing then stiop with thos tournaments
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Quite so, an excellent summary of.... well, whatever it is summarising. I'll get back to you
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X051
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Posted - 2010.06.09 15:01:00 -
[270]
As a one-off it is amusing, but allowing collusion between opposing teams is not a bright idea on CCP's part.
Unless I am mistaken, this is billed as a 'tournament' that allows the EVE community to watch pvp combat between the most talented players. By allowing and actually promoting bribery and match fixing, Claw and the other devs posting in this thread are opening the door for this to become more commonplace. This will result in farcical matches with the viewers not knowing if we are watching real pvp or simulated, rigged matches between teams.
This isn't rocket science. Why do you think this is such a serious issue in professional sports? This isn't about Eve being a 'sandbox'. If you want to paint it this way, then please add a disclaimer so viewers know that what we are watching are just fights with possibly isk/politics-rigged outcomes. If that's the case you can no longer call it a 'tournament' as this is not the accepted definition of a 'tournament'.
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Master Technique
Club Bear HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.09 15:54:00 -
[271]
Originally by: X051
Unless I am mistaken, blah blah blah.
You are mistaken.
Read the thread. No one was paid. This was purely a strategic move by HYDRA. The payment shenanigans was for lawls, because why not. ________________ Master Technique Latest Video:H:TC
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Rain Finale
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Posted - 2010.06.09 16:08:00 -
[272]
Originally by: X051
This isn't rocket science. Why do you think this is such a serious issue in professional sports?
EVE is closer to rocket science than it is to professional sports
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.09 16:09:00 -
[273]
10
Also, best tournament troll ever
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Helios Black
Amarr Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2010.06.09 16:28:00 -
[274]
This was amazing. I love this kind of thing, it's what makes EVE better than any other MMO. Nice job, Hydra and I guess congrats Agony?
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Gingger
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.09 16:36:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Helios Black This was amazing. I love this kind of thing, it's what makes EVE better than any other MMO. Nice job, Hydra and I guess congrats Agony?
Indeed. We got handed our asses badly which as every failure should has made us work harder to improve our performance. We will learn from our mistakes with that performance and come back with a better account of ourselves.
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X051
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Posted - 2010.06.09 18:14:00 -
[276]
Originally by: Master Technique
Originally by: X051
Unless I am mistaken, blah blah blah.
You are mistaken.
Read the thread. No one was paid. This was purely a strategic move by HYDRA. The payment shenanigans was for lawls, because why not.
Sure. Point taken, and to be fair the commentary suggested you weren't paid. My issue wasn't with HYDRA at all - as I said I thought it was funny - it was with CCP if they intend to allow 'gaming' the system to allow teams to strategically control which opponents they will face in the next round. (which is also done in professional sport - with more subtlety - so fair enough). It was also about concerns that games can be rigged.
These are some of the questions that arise after your action. When you do something out of the ordinary, expect people to mull over the consequences and precedents that arise from it. You did something dramatic so relax and don't hate on the drama that comes from it - take it in good spirit and enjoy the ****storm.
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Master Technique
Club Bear HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.09 18:28:00 -
[277]
Originally by: X051
Originally by: Master Technique
Originally by: X051
Unless I am mistaken, blah blah blah.
You are mistaken.
Read the thread. No one was paid. This was purely a strategic move by HYDRA. The payment shenanigans was for lawls, because why not.
My issue wasn't with HYDRA at all, it was with CCP if they intend to allow 'gaming' the system to allow teams to strategically control which opponents they will face in the next round.
No it wasn't. It was about collusion between teams involving ISK as a result of politics, which did not happen, which is why I bothered to respond.
Also, your first post was pretty preachy, so don't tell me or anyone else to chillax...
Also, I would like to state that while I am in the alliance, I do not speak for our tournament team or anything they do. I'm just watching and lawling with the rest. ________________ Master Technique Latest Video:H:TC
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D3rg3
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Posted - 2010.06.09 23:17:00 -
[278]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
It comes to something when even CCP devs can troll these people
he is not trolling, he is gloating
the bottom line for CCP is subscriptions and this kind of stuff draws new players, for good or bad
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Lakut
Hoover Inc. WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.06.10 09:41:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Sever Aldaria 10
Also, best tournament troll ever
Yo Sever, I'm really happy for HYDRA, I'mma let you finish but Larkonis had one of the best AT trolls of all time. One of the BEST TOURNAMENT TROLLS of all time! Most importantly, the issue is that this is already my signature. ---------- You get a wonderful view from the point of no return. |
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