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MrMorph
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Posted - 2004.12.22 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: MrMorph on 22/12/2004 16:07:35 Heavy tanks including 2 reps could only be run with 230 sec cap recharge or less (24/7)
I used this b4 3rd front overganked my apoc:
1 medium sb 1 large NOS 4x tachyons 2x cruise launchers
4x cap recharger II
3x hardeners (kinetic,thermal,explosive) 2x cap relays 2x large accomodation vestment reconstructors
could run tank 24/7 and do a bit of dmg. I have all dmg modifying skills to lvl5.
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MrMorph
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Posted - 2004.12.22 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: MrMorph on 22/12/2004 16:07:35 Heavy tanks including 2 reps could only be run with 230 sec cap recharge or less (24/7)
I used this b4 3rd front overganked my apoc:
1 medium sb 1 large NOS 4x tachyons 2x cruise launchers
4x cap recharger II
3x hardeners (kinetic,thermal,explosive) 2x cap relays 2x large accomodation vestment reconstructors
could run tank 24/7 and do a bit of dmg. I have all dmg modifying skills to lvl5.
---------------------------------------------- Trishys cookies they are !
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.12.22 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: Alowishus on 22/12/2004 17:01:06
Originally by: Doctor Octagon 3 Mega Beams 3 Mega Pulse 2 Cruise Launchers
3 Cap Recharger 2 1 100mn Afterburner 2
2 Large Accos 2 Hardners 3 Cap Relays
Can run 2 Large Accos + Hardners and guns for 24/7
The afterburner is essential for keeping your optimal range, and for picking up the loot.
Ofcourse if you dont want to use a afterburner, you can add a Tracking Computer 2, or a Cap Recharger and a Heat Sink.
That's not a good setup. Why are you mixing gun types? Look, all rats orbit at a certain distance, you don't need to "maintain an optimal range" you just need to freaking sit there and use the right crystals. For instance for Sansha's:
Beast Lord, 22km orbit: Mega Pulse/Gamma Lord, 35km orbit: Mega Pulse/Infrared Overlord, 24km orbit: Mega Pulse/X-ray Tyrant, 35km orbit: Mega Pulse/Infrared
You only need to pack three different crystal types to fight all Sansha BS with Mega Pulse and you can just SIT THERE. Now with other rat types it's possible that they orbit further out and maybe you need to pack Mega Beams or even hunt with a different ship but I see no reason to run different gun types.
I admit I do use an AB since the patch to make loot collecting easier but when I'm actually fighting, it is off.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.12.22 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: Alowishus on 22/12/2004 17:01:06
Originally by: Doctor Octagon 3 Mega Beams 3 Mega Pulse 2 Cruise Launchers
3 Cap Recharger 2 1 100mn Afterburner 2
2 Large Accos 2 Hardners 3 Cap Relays
Can run 2 Large Accos + Hardners and guns for 24/7
The afterburner is essential for keeping your optimal range, and for picking up the loot.
Ofcourse if you dont want to use a afterburner, you can add a Tracking Computer 2, or a Cap Recharger and a Heat Sink.
That's not a good setup. Why are you mixing gun types? Look, all rats orbit at a certain distance, you don't need to "maintain an optimal range" you just need to freaking sit there and use the right crystals. For instance for Sansha's:
Beast Lord, 22km orbit: Mega Pulse/Gamma Lord, 35km orbit: Mega Pulse/Infrared Overlord, 24km orbit: Mega Pulse/X-ray Tyrant, 35km orbit: Mega Pulse/Infrared
You only need to pack three different crystal types to fight all Sansha BS with Mega Pulse and you can just SIT THERE. Now with other rat types it's possible that they orbit further out and maybe you need to pack Mega Beams or even hunt with a different ship but I see no reason to run different gun types.
I admit I do use an AB since the patch to make loot collecting easier but when I'm actually fighting, it is off.
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2004.12.28 11:47:00 -
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What about PVP setups? If you're going to hunt rats in 0.0 you're going to need a good PVP setup. Because Pirates will try to gank you at some point.
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2004.12.28 11:47:00 -
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What about PVP setups? If you're going to hunt rats in 0.0 you're going to need a good PVP setup. Because Pirates will try to gank you at some point.
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Caya
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Posted - 2004.12.28 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: StinkFinger The BEST npc setup available:
6 mega pulse lasers 2 seige missle launcers
1 ab 3 cap rechargers tech 2
2 large acommadation reps 2 hardeners 1 tracking enhancer tech 2 2 cap relays
6 heavy drones
Don't argue with it, it's tried and tested.
so wrong
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Caya
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Posted - 2004.12.28 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: StinkFinger The BEST npc setup available:
6 mega pulse lasers 2 seige missle launcers
1 ab 3 cap rechargers tech 2
2 large acommadation reps 2 hardeners 1 tracking enhancer tech 2 2 cap relays
6 heavy drones
Don't argue with it, it's tried and tested.
so wrong
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.12.28 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Liet Traep What about PVP setups? If you're going to hunt rats in 0.0 you're going to need a good PVP setup. Because Pirates will try to gank you at some point.
That's whats good about an Apoc, you can npc and pvp with very similar setups, just use 3 hardeners for pvp. ------------------------------------------
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.12.28 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Liet Traep What about PVP setups? If you're going to hunt rats in 0.0 you're going to need a good PVP setup. Because Pirates will try to gank you at some point.
That's whats good about an Apoc, you can npc and pvp with very similar setups, just use 3 hardeners for pvp. ------------------------------------------
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Morgen Angharan
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Posted - 2004.12.28 12:59:00 -
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Should one have really good skills one could squeeze the following into the hi-slots:
7 Megapulse II 1 Cruise Launcher (Favourably a Dread Guristas one to be used)
Setup for med and lo is the usual max-caprecharge max-resistance max-repair stuff everybody uses.
Best hi-setup avail ingame for ratting. |
Morgen Angharan
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Posted - 2004.12.28 12:59:00 -
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Should one have really good skills one could squeeze the following into the hi-slots:
7 Megapulse II 1 Cruise Launcher (Favourably a Dread Guristas one to be used)
Setup for med and lo is the usual max-caprecharge max-resistance max-repair stuff everybody uses.
Best hi-setup avail ingame for ratting. |
Taho Ra
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Posted - 2004.12.28 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Taho Ra on 28/12/2004 14:46:59 ...
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Taho Ra
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Posted - 2004.12.28 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Taho Ra on 28/12/2004 14:46:59 ...
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.12.28 17:23:00 -
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Anyone care to comment on this PvP setup?
8x Mega Pulse
1x LiF AB 1x Disruptor 2x Tracking Computer 2
1x Large Acco 1x Medium T2 Rep 1x Thermal Hardener 1x Kinetic Hardener 1x Heatsink 2 2x CPR
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.12.28 17:23:00 -
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Anyone care to comment on this PvP setup?
8x Mega Pulse
1x LiF AB 1x Disruptor 2x Tracking Computer 2
1x Large Acco 1x Medium T2 Rep 1x Thermal Hardener 1x Kinetic Hardener 1x Heatsink 2 2x CPR
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Woodbine
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Posted - 2004.12.29 12:01:00 -
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How do you run this....
Do you run the repairing etc 24/7... Just wondered what sort of dmg you deal as well... Looking for PvP setups myself.. Will get this one on later on today and test...
Originally by: Alowishus Anyone care to comment on this PvP setup?
8x Mega Pulse
1x LiF AB 1x Disruptor 2x Tracking Computer 2
1x Large Acco 1x Medium T2 Rep 1x Thermal Hardener 1x Kinetic Hardener 1x Heatsink 2 2x CPR
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Woodbine
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Posted - 2004.12.29 12:01:00 -
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How do you run this....
Do you run the repairing etc 24/7... Just wondered what sort of dmg you deal as well... Looking for PvP setups myself.. Will get this one on later on today and test...
Originally by: Alowishus Anyone care to comment on this PvP setup?
8x Mega Pulse
1x LiF AB 1x Disruptor 2x Tracking Computer 2
1x Large Acco 1x Medium T2 Rep 1x Thermal Hardener 1x Kinetic Hardener 1x Heatsink 2 2x CPR
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.12.29 13:37:00 -
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6xmegabeam 2xcruise
3xcap recharger 1xSensor Booster
2xlarge accoms 2xhardners 2xCPR 1xPDU II
Nice long range tank setup.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.12.29 13:37:00 -
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6xmegabeam 2xcruise
3xcap recharger 1xSensor Booster
2xlarge accoms 2xhardners 2xCPR 1xPDU II
Nice long range tank setup.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.12.29 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Woodbine
How do you run this....
Do you run the repairing etc 24/7... Just wondered what sort of dmg you deal as well... Looking for PvP setups myself.. Will get this one on later on today and test...
Originally by: Alowishus Anyone care to comment on this PvP setup?
8x Mega Pulse
1x LiF AB 1x Disruptor 2x Tracking Computer 2
1x Large Acco 1x Medium T2 Rep 1x Thermal Hardener 1x Kinetic Hardener 1x Heatsink 2 2x CPR
I don't think it will run 24/7, it will run for awhile though. Not sure about it because I never tried it, that's why I was asking.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |
Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.12.29 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Woodbine
How do you run this....
Do you run the repairing etc 24/7... Just wondered what sort of dmg you deal as well... Looking for PvP setups myself.. Will get this one on later on today and test...
Originally by: Alowishus Anyone care to comment on this PvP setup?
8x Mega Pulse
1x LiF AB 1x Disruptor 2x Tracking Computer 2
1x Large Acco 1x Medium T2 Rep 1x Thermal Hardener 1x Kinetic Hardener 1x Heatsink 2 2x CPR
I don't think it will run 24/7, it will run for awhile though. Not sure about it because I never tried it, that's why I was asking.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |
Bedrock
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Posted - 2004.12.30 19:32:00 -
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Hi: 7x Mega Pulse (Radio, Ultra and Multi) for long, med, short ranges 1x Cruiser Launcher (especially for inty's)
Med: 4x Cap Rechargers (named)
Low: 2x Named L Armor Repairers 1x Named Armor Hardener (for Blood Raiders: Thermal) 1x Named Armor Hardener (for Blood Raiders: EM) 1x Named Passive Armor Hardener (I have a Dark Blood Thermal with 40%) 2x Cap Relays.
This gives me the ability to run my hardeners + 1 L Repaier indefinitely. The second Repairer I can also have running but I only use that if I see a "challenge" in the spawn. With Radio/Ultra, I can run them both and not have to deal with Cap, but when using Multi crytals, as you know, it drains a lot of cap to use, so I set the second one at manual and use it when needed.
This is so far my favorite tanking setup. Since there is no damage mods, its more of a capacitor and DOT fight.
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2004.12.30 19:32:00 -
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Hi: 7x Mega Pulse (Radio, Ultra and Multi) for long, med, short ranges 1x Cruiser Launcher (especially for inty's)
Med: 4x Cap Rechargers (named)
Low: 2x Named L Armor Repairers 1x Named Armor Hardener (for Blood Raiders: Thermal) 1x Named Armor Hardener (for Blood Raiders: EM) 1x Named Passive Armor Hardener (I have a Dark Blood Thermal with 40%) 2x Cap Relays.
This gives me the ability to run my hardeners + 1 L Repaier indefinitely. The second Repairer I can also have running but I only use that if I see a "challenge" in the spawn. With Radio/Ultra, I can run them both and not have to deal with Cap, but when using Multi crytals, as you know, it drains a lot of cap to use, so I set the second one at manual and use it when needed.
This is so far my favorite tanking setup. Since there is no damage mods, its more of a capacitor and DOT fight.
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Captain Woodward
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Posted - 2005.01.01 00:58:00 -
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Hint hint Cap injector for pvp
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King Dave
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Posted - 2005.01.01 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: King Dave on 01/01/2005 20:56:33 6x mega pulse laser I Hi:1x dual heavy beam laser (named preferably) 1x named nos Med:3x Cap IIs - 1x eutectic recharger
Low: 2x accomodation - 4 hardners ( 2 kinetic, 1 thermal and 1 exp) 1 cap relay Is or IIS (when they come out)
I hav not met a ship, ingame that could break that tank.... no blasterthron, gankatempest... But u are easily ganked.....
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xenorx
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Posted - 2005.01.01 22:27:00 -
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NPC Set H: 6 Mega Pulse, 2 Seige Launchers M: 4 Cap recharger 2's L: 3 Hardners, 1 rolled tung 1600mm, 1 med T2 repairer, 1 large accomidation repairer, 1 cap relay.
I fight bloods so I use 1 EM and 2 Thermal hardeners. gives 80% resistances. Run the medium repairer continually and can run the large accomidation with it almost forever. I have not had any problems killing triple BS spawns with cruisers and frigates with it.
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Buraken
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Posted - 2005.01.01 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Buraken on 01/01/2005 22:56:31 Can anybody try a setup with Tach's? I know they suck cap like jenna jamesson on crac*k but the just sheer wonderfullness of the fireworks when you fire off them is just to orgasmic NOT to be used i figure u need like 2 RCU's in low to use 6 of em and 2 siege (with eng. lvl5)
common ppl, use your imagination ;)
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Buraken
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Posted - 2005.01.02 03:58:00 -
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bump
i need an answer, i wanna use tach's!!!!!! :D:D
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Excell Slave
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Posted - 2005.01.02 11:28:00 -
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Tachs are not the best to use for spawning due to the immense cap usage they require and the tracking they lack. You are not able to maintain an armor repairer for long, and will definitely not hit frigs unless at long range. Also , range is your friend on tachs , which means a long trip to collect loot cans.
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