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Antiluvian
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Posted - 2010.06.08 20:58:00 -
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this maybe something that's been talked about before but I've only recently purchased and trained for a Tengu. so far I've only been able to swap out sub systems in a station, although i've tried in a pos and carrier so far. Is it really impossible to swap subsystems any where other than a station. and if this is true surely it makes the strategic cruiser (a) totally useless in a worm hole (b) very un strategic (c) not very practical in null sec. I really love the idea , it just seems poorly executed and missing some functionality. thoughts and help would be great
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Waxau
Total Mayhem. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.06.08 21:53:00 -
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You're unhappy because a ship that works in one situation (station use) doesnt work in the way YOU want it to?
You know. I want tractor beams to work on ships. So much so, im going to make a thread about it...
Its called balance mate. Why would you, as a player, ever have to leave a WH? You can build ammo there. You can earn isk there.
Its a downside with a ship that to be quite frank, has very little. So save you being flamed to the ends of the forums...id drop it :P
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Professor Villinghopper
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Posted - 2010.06.08 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau
Its called balance mate. Why would you, as a player, ever have to leave a WH? You can build ammo there. You can earn isk there.
Not without leaving the wormhole to sell the things you make/gather.
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Tae Ren
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Posted - 2010.06.09 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Tae Ren on 09/06/2010 00:05:33 I kinda agree that t3 ships should be able to change subsystems with a help carrier.
I mean, why not, you are already able to change a fitting strategy of a ship by swapping out all the modules, so would changing subsystems be that much different? Put some kind of a timer so you cant do it very quickly, and off you go.
And don't start talking about the hull de-pressurizing, you could dock the ship into the carrier first if you really had to.
The important thing here is not to turn T3 into a Tactical Cruiser, where you'd be able to freely change subs and modules based on the rapidly developing battle conditions.
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Stick Cult
Unspoken Autonomy.
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Posted - 2010.06.09 00:28:00 -
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Solution: Buy another Tengu of course!
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad.
Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Cosmic Rainbow
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Posted - 2010.06.09 14:08:00 -
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I agree with the OP. They should be able to be configured using a Rorq/POS/Orca.
Its kinda lame that they cant, and does not make them Over Powered.
To the n00b up top that posted that "then you'd never have to leave the WH" - Im guessing you dont have much experience in a WH? Depends on the type of course, but a lot of times its easy to dry up a WH, unless you have a nice static C5 or something with surrounding WH's spawning all the time, and for that you need a corp inhabiting it. Thus what Im saying is, its not the easy gold-mine you preceive it to be.
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Mister LEM0NS
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.09 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Mister LEM0NS on 09/06/2010 20:21:05
Stratigic cruisers are given their name for the various rolls they can play. You as the player can build your ship (which is the best thing about it) from which you can choose a rainbow of different abailities. Thye were never meant to be taken apart anyway. And obviously if you have enough money to blow away on a tengu in a wormhole, why would you want to refit? Are you juggeling between sleepers and those peskey PI-TW4T5?
The Stratigic cruiser is just that, a cruiser based on YOUR stratagy.
Your Offence - DPS/ROF - ECM / drones - Sneak attack (cloak) - Hybrid turrets (WTF!?)
Your Defence - extreme buffer - extreme resists / logistics - extreme active tank - fleet mods (siege)
Your sustainability - Fast cap rep - loads o' cap - extended Overloading - high demand powergrid
Your electronics - targeting range - loads o' CPU - better ECM - ninja looting
Your Movement - Fast - Agile - Interdictor Immunity - Interception / GTFO button
Choose one for each and be glad CCP even lets you design a ship around your ideal fighting conditions.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.09 23:12:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 09/06/2010 23:14:47 Before we start whining too much, let's consider the possibility that you aren't able to reconfigure your ship because it would break something about the code/database/etc if you did it outside of a station. It is quite plausible that something about it just doesn't work properly, and the amount of effort required to change the whole system to "fix" it would be much more than the benefit in a few rare situations.
Quote: Choose one for each and be glad CCP even lets you design a ship around your ideal fighting conditions.
Let's be realistic here, only a very small subset of all the possible subsystems and combinations will ever be used. Most of the "possibilities" are complete garbage. -----------
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Mister LEM0NS
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.10 03:36:00 -
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Let's be realistic here, only a very small subset of all the possible subsystems and combinations will ever be used. Most of the "possibilities" are complete garbage.
The reason people use these fits continueously is because they are sucessful effective fits. None the less it is still the players choice to build his/her ship to their specifications be it hybrid or missiles, active or passive, agle or just fast. Just because some of the subystems are 'garbage' doesnt change the fact that they are still a choice of the player, supporting the name 'stratigic cruiser'. Maybe the next effective fit will be involving the 'worst' subsystem of all
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Antiluvian
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Posted - 2010.06.10 07:50:00 -
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i think for the most part mr lemons has gone a long way to explaining the out look of ccp and there reasons for setting things the way they are. that explanation makes sense in the way u put it. i think that i was mainly just frustrated as i live mostly out of a pos in nullsec and my nearest station is quite some distance away, so obviously u can understand my need to change out subsystems in a pos. i can really see the issues with being very quickly able to swap out subs in a combat situation but it would be helpfull to do it in pos under more sedate settings.
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Asuka Smith
Gallente StarHunt
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Posted - 2010.06.10 07:51:00 -
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Hm, I can customize my Tengu to do anything I want! I think I'll fit for tank and gank...
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Cosmic Rainbow
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Posted - 2010.06.10 17:56:00 -
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Or I'd like to configure it to scan down sites and cloak first, and then before running the site I'd like to alter for tank and gank. Nothing wrong with that. That's the whole purpose of them isnt it?
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Myth Al'kar
Blueprint Haus Empire Vacation Home
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Posted - 2010.06.11 08:12:00 -
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They are called strategic cruisers not tactical cruisers.
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